From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 27 08:37:06 2023 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Feb 2023 13:37:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46383 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pWdgg-0000nV-Bf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 08:37:06 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:46264) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pWdga-0000n1-Jr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 08:37:04 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pWdgZ-0002Gu-Uv for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 08:37:00 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pWdgZ-0000Mj-LW for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 08:36:59 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:Subject:To:From:in-reply-to: references; bh=ElN9JWCuf+QvjVDhywKD4NtjkJmewzyVN+jlMKCO/G4=; b=RSTKCvwZOLlz+H kw6zwZ/KZOuhr2Gv7UPqcTJCg7hQOLsMi9ZuDmlvl3j602bIbM/IIdOqi+9YOL6zHWucO/yc74xrR UmGQRiSbFuzXPelAUjJxotXI0BNCvaxONoh/niJJgTcllHUUwASaLHmHcRpdAqmOHk4fvir3pD5x+ 05b8ziHREa2Hue9mdm0Cko4SqvqYftL+EX38vd+XrT4aoZOqE35NdZFRxJujIXEZGIILr16h/qmRK DtdeXGBUfPc0+6wQ3BO9BemHIlJ/vxR7B95auXr6bXv6unD7PuUG7c/mUBCAmpWNS+fSXaSI9qAAF ajKmYsqxhSTZ3OjPxGCQ==; Received: from [2001:660:6102:320:e120:2c8f:8909:cdfe] (helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pWdgZ-0002si-1O for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 08:36:59 -0500 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: bug-guix@gnu.org Subject: =?utf-8?B?4oCYZ3VpeCBzaGVsbOKAmQ==?= computes different package derivation than =?utf-8?B?4oCYZ3VpeCBidWlsZOKAmQ==?= X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: Nonidi 9 =?utf-8?Q?Vent=C3=B4se?= an 231 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution=2C?= jour du Marsault X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 14:36:56 +0100 Message-ID: <87zg8zkz5z.fsf@inria.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Look at this weird phenomenon. First, with =E2=80=98guix build=E2=80=99, everything works as expected: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ guix describe Generation 247 Feb 27 2023 08:47:41 (current) guix 17bd024 repository URL: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git branch: master commit: 17bd0243310754045cdc6cc362c804db4a8f9317 $ guix build ungoo ungoogled-chromium ungoogled-chromium-wayland=20=20 $ guix build ungoogled-chromium -n The following grafts would be made: /gnu/store/sb9bva92ycw40jiwvklvdwpr5pqs5y14-ungoogled-chromium-109.0.541= 4.119-1.drv /gnu/store/88bvz2ch3wsiz66qcmhhpbz2i60ms14j-harfbuzz-5.3.1.drv /gnu/store/pvrhcbpajl9cf2jjy8p01p5fh6kjf3fi-pipewire-0.3.63.drv /gnu/store/mjm6k8l2d0j1j3j3p7rqrrrj2pla4cwa-jack2-1.9.21.drv $ guix build ungoogled-chromium -n --no-grafts /gnu/store/p984s3dna89qw3j1s9w1jpz3wjw1jmfg-ungoogled-chromium-109.0.5414.1= 19-1 $ guix build ungoogled-chromium -n --no-grafts -d /gnu/store/i8f4qri399l1r2k7hrwpdxxgc3q77izw-ungoogled-chromium-109.0.5414.1= 19-1.drv --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- But now =E2=80=98guix shell=E2=80=99 (same revision) wants to build ungoogl= ed-chromium: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ guix shell ungoogled-chromium -n The following derivations would be built: /gnu/store/6kgc8cd8wn010ba3jnywj2qsjsjk511s-ungoogled-chromium-109.0.5414= .119-1.drv /gnu/store/xfiqj5qnnld9g8hdh879aa7gp7wprhaf-chromium-109.0.5414.119.tar.x= z.drv /gnu/store/4ic70ax830gng6fbaqk3mf3rf2x6vf1j-jsoncpp.patch.drv /gnu/store/9sbl6km93sgb7wc2b14sc1fgf7alsb79-openjpeg.patch.drv /gnu/store/jcx82l35b070dz91aiz6gffgkngcf1gl-zlib.patch.drv 1,930.3 MB would be downloaded $ guix shell ungoogled-chromium -n --no-grafts The following derivations would be built: /gnu/store/mpfvrssy125chnxsy4qg61kk1a2s235d-profile.drv /gnu/store/kyncllwl57l2pk63rc154zdfmbx8759v-ungoogled-chromium-109.0.5414= .119-1.drv /gnu/store/xfiqj5qnnld9g8hdh879aa7gp7wprhaf-chromium-109.0.5414.119.tar.x= z.drv /gnu/store/4ic70ax830gng6fbaqk3mf3rf2x6vf1j-jsoncpp.patch.drv /gnu/store/9sbl6km93sgb7wc2b14sc1fgf7alsb79-openjpeg.patch.drv /gnu/store/jcx82l35b070dz91aiz6gffgkngcf1gl-zlib.patch.drv 1,930.3 MB would be downloaded --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Why does =E2=80=98guix shell=E2=80=99 want to build a different derivation = for the same package? The derivation =E2=80=98guix shell=E2=80=99 computed depends on different *= .patch.drv, compared to the =E2=80=9Cright=E2=80=9D one: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ guix gc -R $(guix build ungoogled-chromium -d --no-grafts) |grep -E '(jso= ncpp|openjpeg|zlib)\.patch\.drv' /gnu/store/ysmmqzva7j49x7sswr5kdgdj59dsh8ip-zlib.patch.drv /gnu/store/iamxhd6d0jqvmjfh458qwhm62bq2adb7-jsoncpp.patch.drv /gnu/store/03hqmvhl97b8pxrcqahc9xk1bil2pbs3-openjpeg.patch.drv --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- To be continued=E2=80=A6 Ludo=E2=80=99. 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Mon, 27 Feb 2023 10:10:32 -0500 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Maxim Cournoyer Subject: Re: bug#61255: [PATCH 0/5] Add support for the RPM format to "guix pack" References: <20230203221409.15886-2-maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> <20230203221409.15886-3-maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> <877cwyw7yc.fsf@gnu.org> <87h6w2p02y.fsf@gmail.com> <87a61ilpi6.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <87fsb5wso1.fsf@gmail.com> <877cw85qtq.fsf_-_@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 16:10:05 +0100 In-Reply-To: <877cw85qtq.fsf_-_@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= =?utf-8?Q?=22's?= message of "Thu, 23 Feb 2023 16:44:49 +0100") Message-ID: <87k003i1pu.fsf_-_@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61841 Cc: Josselin Poiret , Christopher Baines , Simon Tournier , Mathieu Othacehe , Tobias Geerinckx-Rice , Ricardo Wurmus , 61255@debbugs.gnu.org, 61841@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi Maxim, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s skribis: > I=E2=80=99m really not sure what the impact of > 68775338a510f84e63657ab09242d79e726fa457 is, nor whether it was the only > solution to the problem. > > One thing that probably happens is that (default-guile) is now never > used for , contrary to what was happening before. The > spirit is that (default-guile) would be used as the default for all the > declarative file-like objects; gexp compilers refer to (default-guile), > not (%guile-for-build). > > Importantly, (%guile-for-build) is a derivation, possibly built for > another system, whereas (default-guile) is a package, which allows > =E2=80=98lower-object=E2=80=99 to return the derivation for the right sys= tem type. Commit 68775338a510f84e63657ab09242d79e726fa457 turned out to have unintended side effects: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/61841 I fixed it with: a516a0ba93 gexp: computed-file: Do not honor %guile-for-build. fee1d08f0d pack: Make sure tests can run without a world rebuild. Please take a look. We should think about how to improve our processes to avoid such issues in the future. I did raise concerns about this very patch late at night during FOSDEM, 24h after submission, and reaffirmed my viewpoint days later. I understand that delaying a nice patch series like this one is unpleasant, but I think those concerns should have been taken into account. Ludo=E2=80=99. 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[66.158.156.86]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z2-20020ac86b82000000b003bfbf16ad08sm4855697qts.74.2023.02.27.08.41.33 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 27 Feb 2023 08:41:33 -0800 (PST) From: Maxim Cournoyer To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Subject: Re: bug#61255: [PATCH 0/5] Add support for the RPM format to "guix pack" References: <20230203221409.15886-2-maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> <20230203221409.15886-3-maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> <877cwyw7yc.fsf@gnu.org> <87h6w2p02y.fsf@gmail.com> <87a61ilpi6.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <87fsb5wso1.fsf@gmail.com> <877cw85qtq.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <87k003i1pu.fsf_-_@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 11:41:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87k003i1pu.fsf_-_@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= =?utf-8?Q?=22's?= message of "Mon, 27 Feb 2023 16:10:05 +0100") Message-ID: <87bklfkqmb.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61841 Cc: Josselin Poiret , Christopher Baines , Simon Tournier , Mathieu Othacehe , Tobias Geerinckx-Rice , Ricardo Wurmus , 61255@debbugs.gnu.org, 61841@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Ludovic, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > Hi Maxim, > > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s skribis: > >> I=E2=80=99m really not sure what the impact of >> 68775338a510f84e63657ab09242d79e726fa457 is, nor whether it was the only >> solution to the problem. >> >> One thing that probably happens is that (default-guile) is now never >> used for , contrary to what was happening before. The >> spirit is that (default-guile) would be used as the default for all the >> declarative file-like objects; gexp compilers refer to (default-guile), >> not (%guile-for-build). >> >> Importantly, (%guile-for-build) is a derivation, possibly built for >> another system, whereas (default-guile) is a package, which allows >> =E2=80=98lower-object=E2=80=99 to return the derivation for the right sy= stem type. > > Commit 68775338a510f84e63657ab09242d79e726fa457 turned out to have > unintended side effects: > > https://issues.guix.gnu.org/61841 Ugh. > I fixed it with: > > a516a0ba93 gexp: computed-file: Do not honor %guile-for-build. > fee1d08f0d pack: Make sure tests can run without a world rebuild. > > Please take a look. Thank you. I still think it'd be nicer if computed-file had a means to honor %guile-for-build rather than having to accommodate it specially as you did in fee1d08f0d, so that it'd be symmetrical to gexp->derivation in that regard. Why can't they? > We should think about how to improve our processes to avoid such issues > in the future. I did raise concerns about this very patch late at night > during FOSDEM, 24h after submission, and reaffirmed my viewpoint days > later. I understand that delaying a nice patch series like this one is > unpleasant, but I think those concerns should have been taken into > account. You are right, I should have delayed this submission passed its 2 weeks, to let some extra time to look at alternatives w.r.t. the %guile-for-build patch. Apologies for being too eager! --=20 Thanks, Maxim From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 27 16:08:51 2023 Received: (at 61841) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Feb 2023 21:08:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48961 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pWkjr-0003Qn-G9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 16:08:51 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36374) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pWkjo-0003QT-LS; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 16:08:49 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pWkjg-00076w-PM; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 16:08:40 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:To: From; bh=zrptTSTnGSukJor6J5Bo6ZIFpgHrvvrjo8ueB2Kjodw=; b=RFsjXLohKHeDfIBteBj+ zTCnerXksdpomcB1OoRdN/i5A8kzJGFtuEYCxEy9MKXp7UWiIie9MKazTa4Dnyp8p4Dq2OgfRVhyt z/6D6xIhF8lbp3zw0QW4PQ3vjxg7+qLEt7mwX7yP0VgacP6lyTxn+dEN85iAQb+kNG8YOTkrcNI15 X/Nv8sAnO48VJvIrQe91IjqoCCa53NRSlE5GL3s5zOTIQHqG7N+kt17ky494bYTZ7/k+y9czwzg04 LNLZCRsjfW26qln5kuMlGtSDUWbm5BsqAPwwD9spM1WhrIpT42lF8hZ2evZtSC7WuF/uUeAEVPBA+ 2Oo1lUZ2h7kRGQ==; Received: from 91-160-117-201.subs.proxad.net ([91.160.117.201] helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pWkjg-00044J-8u; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 16:08:40 -0500 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Maxim Cournoyer Subject: Re: bug#61841: =?utf-8?B?4oCYZ3VpeCBzaGVsbOKAmQ==?= computes different package derivation than =?utf-8?B?4oCYZ3VpeCBidWlsZOKAmQ==?= References: <20230203221409.15886-2-maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> <20230203221409.15886-3-maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> <877cwyw7yc.fsf@gnu.org> <87h6w2p02y.fsf@gmail.com> <87a61ilpi6.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <87fsb5wso1.fsf@gmail.com> <877cw85qtq.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <87k003i1pu.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <87bklfkqmb.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 22:08:37 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87bklfkqmb.fsf@gmail.com> (Maxim Cournoyer's message of "Mon, 27 Feb 2023 11:41:32 -0500") Message-ID: <87r0uahl4a.fsf_-_@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61841 Cc: Josselin Poiret , Christopher Baines , Simon Tournier , Mathieu Othacehe , Tobias Geerinckx-Rice , Ricardo Wurmus , 61255@debbugs.gnu.org, 61841@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Maxim Cournoyer skribis: > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: [...] >> Commit 68775338a510f84e63657ab09242d79e726fa457 turned out to have >> unintended side effects: >> >> https://issues.guix.gnu.org/61841 > > Ugh. > >> I fixed it with: >> >> a516a0ba93 gexp: computed-file: Do not honor %guile-for-build. >> fee1d08f0d pack: Make sure tests can run without a world rebuild. >> >> Please take a look. > > Thank you. I still think it'd be nicer if computed-file had a means to > honor %guile-for-build rather than having to accommodate it specially as > you did in fee1d08f0d, so that it'd be symmetrical to gexp->derivation > in that regard. Why can't they? Like I wrote, =E2=80=98default-guile=E2=80=99 returns a package whereas =E2=80=98%guile-for-build=E2=80=99 returns a derivation. The latter is inherently lower-level: it=E2=80=99s used together with the monadic interface or with plain =E2=80=98derivation=E2=80=99, when we know = which system we=E2=80=99re targeting. The former is higher-level, system-independent; it must be used for and similar forms, which are system-independent. Ludo=E2=80=99. 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[66.158.156.86]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q190-20020a3743c7000000b00742a23cada8sm3731941qka.131.2023.02.27.18.25.53 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 27 Feb 2023 18:25:53 -0800 (PST) From: Maxim Cournoyer To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Subject: Re: bug#61841: =?utf-8?B?4oCYZ3VpeCBzaGVsbOKAmQ==?= computes different package derivation than =?utf-8?B?4oCYZ3VpeCBidWlsZOKAmQ==?= References: <20230203221409.15886-2-maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> <20230203221409.15886-3-maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> <877cwyw7yc.fsf@gnu.org> <87h6w2p02y.fsf@gmail.com> <87a61ilpi6.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <87fsb5wso1.fsf@gmail.com> <877cw85qtq.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <87k003i1pu.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <87bklfkqmb.fsf@gmail.com> <87r0uahl4a.fsf_-_@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 21:25:52 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87r0uahl4a.fsf_-_@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= =?utf-8?Q?=22's?= message of "Mon, 27 Feb 2023 22:08:37 +0100") Message-ID: <87r0uaikzz.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61841 Cc: Josselin Poiret , Christopher Baines , Simon Tournier , Mathieu Othacehe , Tobias Geerinckx-Rice , Ricardo Wurmus , 61255@debbugs.gnu.org, 61841@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Ludo, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > Maxim Cournoyer skribis: > >> Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > > [...] > >>> Commit 68775338a510f84e63657ab09242d79e726fa457 turned out to have >>> unintended side effects: >>> >>> https://issues.guix.gnu.org/61841 >> >> Ugh. >> >>> I fixed it with: >>> >>> a516a0ba93 gexp: computed-file: Do not honor %guile-for-build. >>> fee1d08f0d pack: Make sure tests can run without a world rebuild. >>> >>> Please take a look. >> >> Thank you. I still think it'd be nicer if computed-file had a means to >> honor %guile-for-build rather than having to accommodate it specially as >> you did in fee1d08f0d, so that it'd be symmetrical to gexp->derivation >> in that regard. Why can't they? > > Like I wrote, =E2=80=98default-guile=E2=80=99 returns a package whereas > =E2=80=98%guile-for-build=E2=80=99 returns a derivation. > > The latter is inherently lower-level: it=E2=80=99s used together with the > monadic interface or with plain =E2=80=98derivation=E2=80=99, when we kno= w which system > we=E2=80=99re targeting. The former is higher-level, system-independent;= it > must be used for and similar forms, which are > system-independent. I see, it's starting to make sense. I'll sleep on it :-). --=20 Thanks, Maxim From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 01 04:05:21 2023 Received: (at 61841) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Mar 2023 09:05:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52653 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pXIOn-00041H-75 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2023 04:05:21 -0500 Received: from jpoiret.xyz ([206.189.101.64]:34124) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pXIOl-000416-2c for 61841@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2023 04:05:19 -0500 Received: from authenticated-user (jpoiret.xyz [206.189.101.64]) by jpoiret.xyz (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 97A80185320; Wed, 1 Mar 2023 09:05:17 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jpoiret.xyz; s=dkim; t=1677661517; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=tGfp6deEJev3Yy4avxGVOn/dvTP05g5UonQ9pZbuS8w=; b=Q+KuOg5hSBB9IpHKHlBqX3Mf/CS9UyneQeeKmFgeFstjLjYhsQSU48NoOQVXwBxGIkg9Kd H9KbBkVvfzvEqrIoEZsJEGMm52PDTOxeYFqW2c0qQLUgE0LuGu+0XN4YMArPTKc6+oPd9N QmVmV5ojZFdh+a+hO5LFBb33z48CkbtdcSvzk2eFrcwA1ozaOZiFTdAeHqPVjJk/5yyplR xjty1UbHv0RQcwWY9nxJn/J7nLykrlGKGp4v133YfHbkyxUo+JzqUitHnJLdL2Sk0gpuWd eL3eHQvuaLpQ7i2FEozU9GvA+n9sp3YbT0maAz0t2lxTpS3KYNt5Im0d4RTe1g== From: Josselin Poiret To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= , 61841@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#61841: =?utf-8?B?4oCYZ3VpeCBzaGVsbOKAmQ==?= computes different package derivation than =?utf-8?B?4oCYZ3VpeCBidWlsZOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: <87zg8zkz5z.fsf@inria.fr> References: <87zg8zkz5z.fsf@inria.fr> Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2023 10:05:12 +0100 Message-ID: <878rggon93.fsf@jpoiret.xyz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Authentication-Results: jpoiret.xyz; auth=pass smtp.auth=jpoiret@jpoiret.xyz smtp.mailfrom=dev@jpoiret.xyz X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61841 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ludo, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > Look at this weird phenomenon. > > First, with =E2=80=98guix build=E2=80=99, everything works as expected: > [...] > But now =E2=80=98guix shell=E2=80=99 (same revision) wants to build ungoo= gled-chromium: > [...] > Why does =E2=80=98guix shell=E2=80=99 want to build a different derivatio= n for the same > package? Funnily enough, I don't have that problem locally: the `guix shell` invocation only tells me it's gonna build a profile derivation (I don't have ungoogled-chromium in my store btw), and the input derivation for that profile is the same as for `guix build`. Best, =2D-=20 Josselin Poiret --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQHEBAEBCAAuFiEEOSSM2EHGPMM23K8vUF5AuRYXGooFAmP/FUgQHGRldkBqcG9p cmV0Lnh5egAKCRBQXkC5FhcaikUDDAC7lVebDZdySQs5chJzCihg7GcQy6f8SJVk 26srwpGHcdFt4vxPrs/aZqrPOHr0qE0l5VsA+Uu7szr3WUqB9mD+FZ7HwGsdWSZm ij1A67HZ2WEGjv7BuaTuEfxDnGbDWIBPAJFrGWNaKCwn9jWU564wckYY3WlTe66/ uB4+jDYitc6/Gmi0/FBHyTAEu3liPHLf8RtpUUYZei281VSQbHPhkaMiXPbAciJ6 kUT7XA3A9xujICeNfH41IqDSdpnUrjbjC+EE/Aaeyvo3MRI0I4GIWU4EFuYzVH95 J47Wjw3trI9tLh6T9hEFH/Z2EIV6r0HRUfh/SwJ/TI6OcLtIBxMXdgstgy7xMpzx CkXG8lpaGJchf8Ad3ur8r9H+FX/JjZQ+3nPL2xxVAiAivrVufbGYxNjIqWnm6jPX v57Rjppir9N8OB1IHkq4vS+N/1dTMVzmuUYkz3LuKu6o59VxM141X3hsIx4aOr6p tULj1LimSZpEA4lklUU9zwVC4dpxbt8= =JB9C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 01 16:34:18 2023 Received: (at 61841) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Mar 2023 21:34:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55095 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pXU5a-0001EZ-CH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2023 16:34:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58434) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pXU5Z-0001EM-DH for 61841@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2023 16:34:17 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pXU5U-00080F-4z; Wed, 01 Mar 2023 16:34:12 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:To: From; bh=eCn3MnITRo28W1TMjBO6IfjZh+4neIsC3p1zH/y589A=; b=RndVx/cHAoT7Mch3Nby+ 2mZMF5RytA8qr0ABhiZJatuVVC4p0EcRveT1/YbSYaE8XOu4s25EYZd0L9crb0LB7JdTMVDa7SKcu ztvj+p9z45qeAGLRENrm18J3rBkaGl7M5hfNz6ZovALHBypUh8pQxBjxbGcFzTU/JmEFdzsgT9j2F +59Zu804Gl7m6TMAVf1uaVHdqJcnWau44R5e1P9ea29HuhQQM00rE8VkM3cZSx2QZ6xjjbIq76ww3 UGLhdtZ5arY3nZMCTwSjWPBD9+JjN21DSG3QYAwoOOzHg5N86x5Q5++xzCdr7yNB4MxvTJ6/ZxTjR NlNNXDJG6eoQzQ==; Received: from 91-160-117-201.subs.proxad.net ([91.160.117.201] helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pXU5T-0000fp-M2; Wed, 01 Mar 2023 16:34:11 -0500 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Josselin Poiret Subject: Re: bug#61841: =?utf-8?B?4oCYZ3VpeCBzaGVsbOKAmQ==?= computes different package derivation than =?utf-8?B?4oCYZ3VpeCBidWlsZOKAmQ==?= References: <87zg8zkz5z.fsf@inria.fr> <878rggon93.fsf@jpoiret.xyz> Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2023 22:34:09 +0100 In-Reply-To: <878rggon93.fsf@jpoiret.xyz> (Josselin Poiret's message of "Wed, 01 Mar 2023 10:05:12 +0100") Message-ID: <874jr49mwe.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61841 Cc: 61841@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Howdy, Josselin Poiret skribis: > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > >> Look at this weird phenomenon. >> >> First, with =E2=80=98guix build=E2=80=99, everything works as expected: >> [...] >> But now =E2=80=98guix shell=E2=80=99 (same revision) wants to build ungo= ogled-chromium: >> [...] >> Why does =E2=80=98guix shell=E2=80=99 want to build a different derivati= on for the same >> package? > > Funnily enough, I don't have that problem locally: the `guix shell` > invocation only tells me it's gonna build a profile derivation (I don't > have ungoogled-chromium in my store btw), and the input derivation for > that profile is the same as for `guix build`. It was fixed on Monday though, so perhaps you=E2=80=99re using a known-good revision? Anyway there are still people complaining about =E2=80=9Clack of ungoogled-chromium substitutes=E2=80=9D (most likely: wrong ungoogled-chrom= ium derivation) right now on IRC. Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 02 04:23:21 2023 Received: (at 61841) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Mar 2023 09:23:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55768 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pXf9k-0007Wt-OE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2023 04:23:20 -0500 Received: from jpoiret.xyz ([206.189.101.64]:36620) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pXf9j-0007Wl-7V for 61841@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2023 04:23:19 -0500 Received: from authenticated-user (jpoiret.xyz [206.189.101.64]) by jpoiret.xyz (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A548E184CE0; Thu, 2 Mar 2023 09:23:16 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jpoiret.xyz; s=dkim; t=1677748996; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=7NYfUWLOfU8qDGr2JcN/VSjLRC7u8ujqROpMnn0xkdM=; b=DCJ7hQ3f3tjJgcXmNybvars8SyxE+YGBtuRFWNi2JfBN44IoDH+N2I2nTOIWq0RV7nLcUn vMRQx0jzUZlvZQTwdoBcIQ3Aq2LFChrbiyHDIlqEOYM13l1qNqFhjnlZHjhEM1OcHi3DlY vse4pZBa0Fr7qkJbLK9ZNLx00x9AjCm6Rtgx2mMnbiBrs5WqSCT74c/bIoUGW9qMZxUxAx tT+3rs5odwwKbr7pF7Xoxr9IqKrc7IFxvji39DBlrPdMImxfY0Ny0IpjuFKIWibj92Vzqr y0yXg1ox9edjq5R9Cobvv12RbDBl8ZGtLxU0RbwQ6Mww10C+OfKfdSfz+eZIjg== From: Josselin Poiret To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Subject: Re: bug#61841: =?utf-8?B?4oCYZ3VpeCBzaGVsbOKAmQ==?= computes different package derivation than =?utf-8?B?4oCYZ3VpeCBidWlsZOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: <874jr49mwe.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87zg8zkz5z.fsf@inria.fr> <878rggon93.fsf@jpoiret.xyz> <874jr49mwe.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2023 10:23:13 +0100 Message-ID: <87bklbld6m.fsf@jpoiret.xyz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Authentication-Results: jpoiret.xyz; auth=pass smtp.auth=jpoiret@jpoiret.xyz smtp.mailfrom=dev@jpoiret.xyz X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61841 Cc: 61841@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ludo, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > It was fixed on Monday though, so perhaps you=E2=80=99re using a known-go= od > revision? That's probably the piece of info I was missing! The discussion about the issue didn't show up in the same thread in my MUA so I thought this was simply unanswered, my bad. 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