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a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jidanni.org; s=dreamhost; t=1677487062; bh=LFhoTFC/xqGHF5N4Rd6tGgHv4P9Sa2gAVQVqUcBnxvw=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Content-Type; b=mjOlxAY/yuAXJHe83d85NpdL/v7jkYhK0I3NH79HPZmn8Hir3TCg0pYo/XV9FLrZU NEPqCNe98XMlI2xY87HogThOSK//POJGMJbnlO4z40jiIu6NkX24gIG4oKZlQ3w1ML GsXeQw0S74SEFGXV43YMSJCMdK++OPxY9XaJORWE2mmCjnRksR/qGCbp2ltqG4/BUr yEwODRGV+HyvKAvoE3qBQRixXbXcB2G0vm/RwG+C258DEcxgSi43zUAqI4HE/D2OLE oNsgD/YBT41Ubem9CqzxYUCJj+qcIdAQxrbTfsEuZIv2q2ai/WrbEVeFlHAnOfcVnX +fW85aal4V0FQ== From: Dan Jacobson To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Align key bindings with world trend Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 16:37:40 +0800 Message-ID: <87edqba4h7.7.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=23.83.212.47; envelope-from=jidanni@jidanni.org; helo=cyan.elm.relay.mailchannels.net X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) https://stackoverflow.com/a/16001753/1118719 says the current bindings are what God said to use. However it seems it might be best to have new emacs users get on the bandwagon aligned with whatever is being used by the majority of computer users... But wait, that would be different than the shell too. OK never mind. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 27 06:50:53 2023 Received: (at 61836-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Feb 2023 11:50:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46265 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pWc1t-0003u1-Im for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 06:50:53 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41386) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pWc1p-0003tm-7Q for 61836-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 06:50:52 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pWc1j-0008K6-NG; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 06:50:43 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=F26xRBTO82AYm+EB3wlgyTXj66RpOJ5FAnxasAjm6io=; b=jSJMRgMn6cA/ LAPjKkM0DU59DVXIsR3yDTL7JdCXFfPpzrL5fwn3KyN96+lhCWI6ig7cAXVx1kd0bAlITZmf2yq+6 p8VYS/sAQn3rIhvXO+xxeoWt+RgqBHZklHTZ801rEycWMa656S8bTZP+lTQDBcxRfXRuiyHcXQsX9 yrrVWGPoNQNOxydrcaL61ZThsOMfIt+8q2uH1I9YQ6YdLs09Apiu3YrX4lIURwsBnrkcBcQfqFkVz 4g3BMfV5dLKlJFvgMzEWp142YBUM9ysJ8aqDXhifTww6LM3mdNGpw+pIMqqnPweUG2S/KWvheEePL hE8+QBgIpUaHEP6+1DoThA==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pWc1i-0006W0-Tg; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 06:50:43 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 13:50:44 +0200 Message-Id: <834jr7iay3.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Dan Jacobson In-Reply-To: <87edqba4h7.7.fsf@jidanni.org> (message from Dan Jacobson on Mon, 27 Feb 2023 16:37:40 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#61836: Align key bindings with world trend References: <87edqba4h7.7.fsf@jidanni.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61836-done Cc: 61836-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Dan Jacobson > Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 16:37:40 +0800 > > https://stackoverflow.com/a/16001753/1118719 says the current bindings > are what God said to use. However it seems it might be best to have new > emacs users get on the bandwagon aligned with whatever is being used by > the majority of computer users... We have that for a long time: the arrow keys, with and without Ctrl, PgUp/PgDn, HOME and END, DELETE, Shift-INSERT, etc. etc. > But wait, that would be different than the shell too. OK never mind. Closing. From unknown Sun Jul 27 08:07:47 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2023 11:24:08 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator