From unknown Fri Aug 15 15:32:36 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#6180 <6180@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#6180 <6180@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 23.2; Windows XP: crash when scrolling down after 'M-x describe-fontset' or 'C-h h' Reply-To: bug#6180 <6180@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 22:32:36 +0000 retitle 6180 23.2; Windows XP: crash when scrolling down after 'M-x describ= e-fontset' or 'C-h h' reassign 6180 emacs submitter 6180 David Ernst severity 6180 normal tag 6180 unreproducible thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 12 23:24:36 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 May 2010 03:24:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OCP2J-0003A2-Tt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2010 23:24:36 -0400 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OCOzo-000383-3D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2010 23:22:18 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:37596) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OCOzj-0003IJ-A4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2010 23:21:55 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=36016 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OCOzd-0002jj-21 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2010 23:21:54 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OCL5A-0001YC-H3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2010 19:11:18 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:41857) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OCL59-0001Xm-Rj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2010 19:11:16 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 12 May 2010 23:11:10 -0000 Received: from p5DC08D08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [93.192.141.8]) [93.192.141.8] by mail.gmx.net (mp011) with SMTP; 13 May 2010 01:11:10 +0200 X-Authenticated: #20520377 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/7obV0RU37NbPAjO4+Abk47OQ6jsA/FJdjJEPBjg +mdY9wMLii4QLL Message-ID: <4BEB358D.1000605@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 01:11:09 +0200 From: David Ernst User-Agent: Thunderbird/1.5 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 23.2; Windows XP: crash when scrolling down after 'M-x describe-fontset' or 'C-h h' Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000802090807080002030001" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 12 May 2010 23:24:34 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000802090807080002030001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This bug report will be sent to the Free Software Foundation, not to your local site managers! Please write in English if possible, because the Emacs maintainers usually do not have translators to read other languages for them. Your bug report will be posted to the bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org mailing list, and to the gnu.emacs.bug news group. Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and the precise symptoms of the bug. If you can, give a recipe starting from `emacs -Q': emacs from: http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/windows/emacs-23.2-bin-i386.zip I. 1. runemacs.exe -Q 2. M-x describe-fontset 3. return 4. in *Help*-Buffer 5. page down or 6. C-s mule *bang* II. 1. runemacs.exe -Q 2. C-h h *bang* see crash.png If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger, please include the output from the following gdb commands: `bt full' and `xbacktrace'. For information about debugging Emacs, please read the file c:/Programme/my/emacs-23.2/etc/DEBUG. In GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2010-05-08 on G41R2F1 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/xpm/include' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: DEU value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: cp1252 default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: M-x r e p o r t Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. goto-history-element: Beginning of history; no preceding item call-interactively: Text is read-only call-interactively: End of buffer Load-path shadows: None found. 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See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=private; d=cochranmail.com; b=TRfNHW5FIySag8Bf1+a71TsWrRY4p+dkXM91jsfkgkGlDaq+5Ghbq07r4PVSMvxl2PAMeQrWZ0PW3fvuDAzm5g==; Received: from 131-191-86-130.as.clicknet.org (HELO SoraLaptop) (robert@cochranmail.com@131.191.86.130) by mail.cochrantribe.org with ESMTPA; 24 Aug 2016 20:08:00 -0000 From: Robert Cochran To: 6180@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: 23.2; Windows XP: crash when scrolling down after 'M-x describe-fontset' or 'C-h h' Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 13:07:51 -0700 Message-ID: <87shtu7wx4.fsf@cochranmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6180 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Windows XP has been completely EOL'd since April 8, 2014 (a little over 2 years at the time of writing). I'm not entirely sure of the official policy on supporting OSes that are no longer supported by their vendor, but I'm having a hard time imagining anyone using Emacs on Windows XP as a development environment. I'm also thinking not very many people even still have XP somewhere to test if this bug still exists - I certainly don't. The only thing that we can reasonably do IMO is check newer Windows and see if problems persist. -- ~Robert Cochran GPG Fingerprint - E778 2DD4 FEA6 6A68 6F26 AD2D E5C3 EB36 4886 8871 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 24 20:28:02 2016 Received: (at 6180) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Aug 2016 00:28:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39507 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bciWY-0004Lo-9g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 20:28:02 -0400 Received: from mail-it0-f49.google.com ([209.85.214.49]:34380) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bciWV-0004LJ-TZ for 6180@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 20:28:00 -0400 Received: by mail-it0-f49.google.com with SMTP id e63so29739502ith.1 for <6180@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 17:27:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=ZRGUPPKISSjPOXgJ8UuRqvxLdz8PsbBnu263a/TGR9E=; b=amc26GXsfY3bbhT1WnaQQGGOk5NZeEAg2WaEfL0AYXkVexAJ9XBljWpNDhSHM0kbll xE15qLaOQl/msnqfb+PVosCT7qXsVlxPIiyXisd8JTjRAuIA1kPDgn5NXflJk5RBDqGX TIqPNjGJAEOndkS6WpKSZgN7Q7CIKh3uMmQ0nozL+6GSAYVZnL1xYtgNc2Wev1gTWqwI eJjj4PKBSbvGsxD6uPjorq/l04NfHBKG4YGnWySyZj48XHEuYztr56wE4k2NHrnPyCo2 FkbPIUCRNU0RD8g4D7pqr2RWXsmM1gvFfE/9PUy6xxhuqqpW9wrzXhuRuFfaaWYBfJFQ Uh7w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=ZRGUPPKISSjPOXgJ8UuRqvxLdz8PsbBnu263a/TGR9E=; b=aSCEO6nihf0WOmPkDC5GkN9gHpSNMhteNUkqfZwBebFPSPeB8lYbXauuuiLoDzAPFk zmMip3OiLKutT7aVsBdRYGSC1PQ8QeZg3jeERnfpRe5B6bQ3qR6JPrJHZJTMzRc4dzEr zLE7jPC8FhaZR/vFA/XiwM69Awhh5FsvQoxbB5pCTYoc4R8qQuZYqjp1bXf78JO0uO+K lpvKqrfrW0xsM4HL37mae7tONEkNFy8zBMO4sQwwk/0gpehqO8mENSCjjvkCSjFt/1ia vNvt65e9LjZi7pMatKqQwwd3TfJ/TCilkfnlcrEOLdcHBpQj1Wu/KeW36kPNS0YcIHLQ c35Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouuYSNsyfWb0ss2gW7qaEV5RGeTBbcVRFNC0hcxIL2ATqoaP0OWJSGhBhC4ljyOSxw== X-Received: by 10.36.107.211 with SMTP id v202mr1790256itc.51.1472084858767; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 17:27:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zony ([45.2.7.130]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id o15sm16739650ith.2.2016.08.24.17.27.37 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 24 Aug 2016 17:27:38 -0700 (PDT) From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net To: Robert Cochran Subject: Re: bug#6180: 23.2; Windows XP: crash when scrolling down after 'M-x describe-fontset' or 'C-h h' References: <4BEB358D.1000605@gmx.de> <87shtu7wx4.fsf@cochranmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 20:27:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87shtu7wx4.fsf@cochranmail.com> (Robert Cochran's message of "Wed, 24 Aug 2016 13:07:51 -0700") Message-ID: <87mvk1u1ys.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6180 Cc: David Ernst , 6180@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) [Adding David Ernst back on cc, on the off chance he might still be interested after all these years] Robert Cochran writes: > Windows XP has been completely EOL'd since April 8, 2014 (a little over > 2 years at the time of writing). I'm not entirely sure of the official > policy on supporting OSes that are no longer supported by their > vendor, Well, in practice the policy is that we support whatever people are willing to provide support for. And Eli is willing to support Windows versions that are even older than XP. > The only thing that we can reasonably do IMO is check newer Windows and > see if problems persist. This sounds a lot like 23935 (i.e., it's likely to be font-specific), though Drew reported (on Windows 7) that 24.5, 23.4.1, and 22.3 did not crash when displaying HELLO. I think we may as well close both as unreproducible, as there doesn't seem to be any possiblity of making progress on them. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 24 20:39:02 2016 Received: (at 6180) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Aug 2016 00:39:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39512 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bcihC-0004ce-AQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 20:39:02 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:40936) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bcihA-0004c8-U3 for 6180@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 20:39:01 -0400 Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u7P0cqQ9028835 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 25 Aug 2016 00:38:52 GMT Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u7P0cpgK009573 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 25 Aug 2016 00:38:51 GMT Received: from abhmp0004.oracle.com (abhmp0004.oracle.com [141.146.116.10]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u7P0co0F015470; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 00:38:51 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <16be4792-36ec-4a0b-9159-7a8232cb0099@default> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 17:38:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, Robert Cochran Subject: RE: bug#6180: 23.2; Windows XP: crash when scrolling down after 'M-x describe-fontset' or 'C-h h' References: <4BEB358D.1000605@gmx.de> <87shtu7wx4.fsf@cochranmail.com> <87mvk1u1ys.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> In-Reply-To: <87mvk1u1ys.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6753.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6180 Cc: David Ernst , 6180@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) > This sounds a lot like 23935 (i.e., it's likely to be font-specific), > though Drew reported (on Windows 7) that 24.5, 23.4.1, and 22.3 did not > crash when displaying HELLO. I think we may as well close both as > unreproducible, as there doesn't seem to be any possiblity of making > progress on them. Yes, the systematic crash I reported does not occur prior to Emacs 25 (I reported on a pretest). And yes, I'm using Windows 7, 64-bit. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 24 22:38:50 2016 Received: (at 6180) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Aug 2016 02:38:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39584 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bckZ8-0002MS-Cn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 22:38:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38830) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bckZ6-0002ME-Jr for 6180@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 22:38:48 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bckYw-0002d2-JC for 6180@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 22:38:43 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58735) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bckYw-0002br-GG; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 22:38:38 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3887 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bckYu-00018k-K0; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 22:38:37 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 05:38:55 +0300 Message-Id: <83pooxefnk.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Robert Cochran In-reply-to: <87shtu7wx4.fsf@cochranmail.com> (message from Robert Cochran on Wed, 24 Aug 2016 13:07:51 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#6180: 23.2; Windows XP: crash when scrolling down after 'M-x describe-fontset' or 'C-h h' References: <4BEB358D.1000605@gmx.de> <87shtu7wx4.fsf@cochranmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6180 Cc: 6180@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) > From: Robert Cochran > Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 13:07:51 -0700 > > I'm having a hard time imagining anyone using Emacs on Windows XP as > a development environment. I do. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 25 05:17:48 2016 Received: (at 6180) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Aug 2016 09:17:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39986 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bcqnE-0006mW-BL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 05:17:48 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:62280) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bcqnD-0006mI-0o for 6180@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 05:17:47 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([212.95.7.86]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LoEcP-1axBFI2wqf-00gFkc; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 11:17:37 +0200 Message-ID: <57BEB7A4.5000008@gmx.at> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 11:17:24 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eli Zaretskii , Robert Cochran Subject: Re: bug#6180: 23.2; Windows XP: crash when scrolling down after 'M-x describe-fontset' or 'C-h h' References: <4BEB358D.1000605@gmx.de> <87shtu7wx4.fsf@cochranmail.com> <83pooxefnk.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83pooxefnk.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:11P8V4b6QL5pFGplmHcDQmRYCn7UjqTw2noYAggxQV8i6qQXhju oRXhPOPfE/+rkh/URDFSiRm40mCAG67cqmFHPv8ilNNDZeB0N1xlRzcZFK27u3JftmsZINN gIbVWE+9lsG4DVtDjD5jDYW/AfHuD4J+/TGjaahVsvxeXfkcb6D97qpDvD/DjKbd1bpFs64 5GIeVFLz08m/cfwqF6LLQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:Dy36lHrzgl0=:mlD2nl1dSgnkRgyiAyHueu 6McxFYvxnLiKiHFxGiYXWvHfI4C60AkYbbQB3HauomnvTLLNCgAX4eXXAAbDCDJ/YUdcUfw20 HN+XcFwpOuKfqMKryTbhOSoD9al96JTdZfYhu+gdT+mw+qQEWAoadmAIOEo4ddWNx1Cy2CL56 vprWDnV+NCf//3rz2QLheY6Oo59gK1h2RhiOd3rBioPplYGkZzI/7qlPV4UZnuSZspp+Q/TmK N3L5VDUBKwEzif+GRTMvfoyxw4Pk1jDCS1i/jksogCLePMtP/gdQR2AIqYsq7PYvePBp8QOUG Wv0EJzaLuL0PdBcoP2EOw2LovizT6IhVpIdvXE/yXelil2HzwLgbaTNVexvgvqYpKazhYLznI TA+/hSa4KBpn/twimqlBZOjll0fxil5Ttg8SzN6GuOsrVJuMtW8Ec27rMWDLsJDoU5OtD96OH wyWGAnTYXLOkVsgl8QaJhUf7SX6G/1TjjkX1fd75DxW2f+jEP1P7ynA3cVrQq59TdkCxJbbp7 fD/fu3vxgk0E+z2PoZiccEa3jD+m8tSj3IB+gcOPAXYD1hL0/nIWOP/rjFQkAVFqb4qqswtAY Bod/jSxtDzkbjx/JY35zFMY+eVQizf355w1cbdhokTB5IbrnBk5yZBCQnlwMRI5QcKnFFznbh RZWXG4NdXF9ktcVfajj9U9ICqnx1tmv9CeGpRWcT1RYYokFPO8+vKN1KW/PZtaqUFx1aRuGgQ YkXWQ7SkSEuQLDP+rWgTloB8WbDHpkUca/A+HvP5G+6DplQ5hbiHb3/XbtCL+AYUm9kOVu+4O jSpcDdPyBzFQwmb2ttvL/1yPnJgMg== X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6180 Cc: 6180@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) >> I'm having a hard time imagining anyone using Emacs on Windows XP as >> a development environment. > > I do. So do I. martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 25 15:05:42 2016 Received: (at 6180) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Aug 2016 19:05:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40855 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bczyA-00016p-Gn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 15:05:42 -0400 Received: from mail.workgrouplinux.net ([207.195.177.82]:47237) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bczy8-00016g-Gj for 6180@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 15:05:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple; d=cochranmail.com; h=from:to :cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=dkim1; bh=slgXkWk++ciAXnjoCVAw19d5yHU=; b=HxtcB fk7Bh3p0/1U3S9G2Z4dPQ/ivrGozgu0Jp4tMoi7sddI0DZsPa2PCwsFKPlvzvXOv ptughWw/kb6OiVtwisTvc3+ZYyVDkRqfn61c3cH5kmVha2dBA8ahZfR/5d5Up/Am rSsqe3yLd2twoFkoqn3lSwTX+hhpGKR8CquaD6/UVqmMiAHaoK+sM04gHUJhG4Od yLLmoOlAIzEChS+vMqXhRmsDLZHocUDE1wM5pV6kXm9SCoutR0yfRbngiHU6Ojo7 dVKOfkuXSnssp8D+YtfzBl6ZHRHjqitxrFXAoQy2vh/HGj7ygWARPQjKnP8klq8R GHbIbJ9ICYoHLIHog== Received: (qmail 14473 invoked by uid 0); 25 Aug 2016 19:05:37 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=private; d=cochranmail.com; b=nQ9fx8UEocHkS1221VjIqCuIUoOSdZZ0RkKoeki7c8C5AoHA80xCFLmCiitSc6S7MHV0yDW+5Yd98gf0AkldrA==; Received: from 131-191-86-130.as.clicknet.org (HELO SoraLaptop) (robert@cochranmail.com@131.191.86.130) by mail.cochrantribe.org with ESMTPA; 25 Aug 2016 19:05:37 -0000 From: Robert Cochran To: martin rudalics Subject: Re: bug#6180: 23.2; Windows XP: crash when scrolling down after 'M-x describe-fontset' or 'C-h h' References: <4BEB358D.1000605@gmx.de> <87shtu7wx4.fsf@cochranmail.com> <83pooxefnk.fsf@gnu.org> <57BEB7A4.5000008@gmx.at> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:05:34 -0700 In-Reply-To: <57BEB7A4.5000008@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Thu, 25 Aug 2016 11:17:24 +0200") Message-ID: <878tvk654x.fsf@cochranmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6180 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Robert Cochran , 6180@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) martin rudalics writes: >>> I'm having a hard time imagining anyone using Emacs on Windows XP as >>> a development environment. >> >> I do. > > So do I. Whatever works for you guys, I guess. I'll be honest, that comes as a surprise to me. I'd figure most developers would be on a more recent Windows or a *nix system. That does leave me curious - why? -- ~Robert Cochran GPG Fingerprint - E778 2DD4 FEA6 6A68 6F26 AD2D E5C3 EB36 4886 8871 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 25 15:12:21 2016 Received: (at 6180) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Aug 2016 19:12:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40859 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bd04b-0001GG-7e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 15:12:21 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50706) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bd04Z-0001G3-63 for 6180@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 15:12:19 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bd04P-0000VD-Mv for 6180@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 15:12:13 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42172) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bd04P-0000Us-Ja; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 15:12:09 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2490 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bd04L-0005wX-KG; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 15:12:08 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 22:12:11 +0300 Message-Id: <8337lsek8k.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Robert Cochran In-reply-to: <878tvk654x.fsf@cochranmail.com> (message from Robert Cochran on Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:05:34 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#6180: 23.2; Windows XP: crash when scrolling down after 'M-x describe-fontset' or 'C-h h' References: <4BEB358D.1000605@gmx.de> <87shtu7wx4.fsf@cochranmail.com> <83pooxefnk.fsf@gnu.org> <57BEB7A4.5000008@gmx.at> <878tvk654x.fsf@cochranmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6180 Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, robert-emacs@cochranmail.com, 6180@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) > From: Robert Cochran > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Robert Cochran , 6180@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:05:34 -0700 > > martin rudalics writes: > > That does leave me curious - why? Why what? why Windows or why XP? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 25 18:18:19 2016 Received: (at 6180) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Aug 2016 22:18:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40899 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bd2yY-0005oo-Tw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 18:18:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53916) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bd2yX-0005oc-DW for 6180@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 18:18:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bd2yR-0008KD-7C for 6180@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 18:18:12 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:44089) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bd2yO-0008JD-E6; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 18:18:08 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bd2yN-0004zZ-Sl; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 18:18:07 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman To: Robert Cochran In-reply-to: <87shtu7wx4.fsf@cochranmail.com> (message from Robert Cochran on Wed, 24 Aug 2016 13:07:51 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#6180: 23.2; Windows XP: crash when scrolling down after 'M-x describe-fontset' or 'C-h h' References: <4BEB358D.1000605@gmx.de> <87shtu7wx4.fsf@cochranmail.com> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 18:18:07 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6180 Cc: 6180@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > The only thing that we can reasonably do IMO is check newer Windows and > see if problems persist. We can say that we will accept a fix if someone provides one. Windows -- ANY version of Windows -- is a secondary platform for us. As is MacOS. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 26 00:16:10 2016 Received: (at 6180) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Aug 2016 04:16:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40981 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bd8Yr-0000Zr-TI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 00:16:10 -0400 Received: from mail.workgrouplinux.net ([207.195.177.82]:48617) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bd8Yp-0000Zd-MX for 6180@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 00:16:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple; d=cochranmail.com; h=from:to :cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=dkim1; bh=SH0269+0DZM60hvDowUGcUalO8Q=; b=Xxa+v rXMO87gwCMdhtxgWH750LmO4U9laEWUaoFMD0uqqM3XkobMno9hL3rJWVcZnn+hO lrv2cjCudTn8bdScvg+2czNRLn1oF5SECjITaVJtksVKK1sFGVu/4IKL8i/oWTPR 1Dbt3ztfW6YZnkhaqfqCrh9cxEilEYYjJUKnRvaZYcHrLBIiTYWEaVnHpnZATDMa nQg0QVu3/pg5nnFrf/rVIrd8e3O0MN5Jd2P8+5dGqPSVCLvA821z4BKYofdkoRBU 0MPComH+1vuf6kCUKjk/PatbpNj7KidX387PrhZyj8OUWz4FMdbuansqrFlILQ/N Iei5P6yEGvha0sdFQ== Received: (qmail 22700 invoked by uid 0); 26 Aug 2016 04:16:03 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=private; d=cochranmail.com; b=bXBITl35nEaQcIeCxGjyIYozelVZk0G4fyBkv2B2mtysZnzxSt4mw5HQdhGz179sO71KeNovoi6/+EScuyzITQ==; Received: from 131-191-86-130.as.clicknet.org (HELO SoraLaptop) (robert@cochranmail.com@131.191.86.130) by mail.cochrantribe.org with ESMTPA; 26 Aug 2016 04:16:03 -0000 From: Robert Cochran To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#6180: 23.2; Windows XP: crash when scrolling down after 'M-x describe-fontset' or 'C-h h' References: <4BEB358D.1000605@gmx.de> <87shtu7wx4.fsf@cochranmail.com> <83pooxefnk.fsf@gnu.org> <57BEB7A4.5000008@gmx.at> <878tvk654x.fsf@cochranmail.com> <8337lsek8k.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 21:16:00 -0700 In-Reply-To: <8337lsek8k.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 25 Aug 2016 22:12:11 +0300") Message-ID: <87h9a8p3lr.fsf@cochranmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6180 Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, Robert Cochran , 6180@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Why what? why Windows or why XP? Why XP mostly. I can understand why people may prefer or be forced to use Windows (even though that's something I personally try hard to avoid), but I'd figure anyone that could have moved on from XP would have by now. Especially because, as I mentioned, XP is no longer receiving any updates or security fixes of any sort, making XP users relatively more vulnerable (although I acknowledge that the knowledgeable can take measures to reduce the risk). If you're still using XP, there's obviously a reason of some sort, by choice or otherwise. I hadn't realized that some people on the Emacs lists were still using XP, otherwise I would have responded differently. Please don't take what I've already said in a negative or derogatory way. -- ~Robert Cochran GPG Fingerprint - E778 2DD4 FEA6 6A68 6F26 AD2D E5C3 EB36 4886 8871 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 26 02:29:59 2016 Received: (at 6180) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Aug 2016 06:29:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41010 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bdAeN-0003st-Fj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 02:29:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36591) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bdAeM-0003sg-Ll for 6180@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 02:29:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bdAeD-00034v-J6 for 6180@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 02:29:53 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48029) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bdAeD-000346-Fm; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 02:29:49 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3111 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bdAeA-0008LE-7c; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 02:29:46 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 09:30:07 +0300 Message-Id: <83zio0caa8.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Robert Cochran In-reply-to: <87h9a8p3lr.fsf@cochranmail.com> (message from Robert Cochran on Thu, 25 Aug 2016 21:16:00 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#6180: 23.2; Windows XP: crash when scrolling down after 'M-x describe-fontset' or 'C-h h' References: <4BEB358D.1000605@gmx.de> <87shtu7wx4.fsf@cochranmail.com> <83pooxefnk.fsf@gnu.org> <57BEB7A4.5000008@gmx.at> <878tvk654x.fsf@cochranmail.com> <8337lsek8k.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9a8p3lr.fsf@cochranmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6180 Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, 6180@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) > From: Robert Cochran > Cc: Robert Cochran , rudalics@gmx.at, 6180@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 21:16:00 -0700 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Why what? why Windows or why XP? > > Why XP mostly. This is no longer relevant to the bug report, so I will respond on emacs-devel. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Sep 01 22:52:08 2016 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Sep 2016 02:52:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46787 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bfeaN-0000Xy-2d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Sep 2016 22:52:08 -0400 Received: from mail-it0-f44.google.com ([209.85.214.44]:35494) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bfeaL-0000XS-7l for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Sep 2016 22:52:05 -0400 Received: by mail-it0-f44.google.com with SMTP id e124so15154164ith.0 for ; Thu, 01 Sep 2016 19:52:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=74ukbBIL1q9XHhS2vtZIAXeTmAzp+RvEQqoMIzwzIxM=; b=hq7IzwSpQBTYVW+78P4cVmlkm0sI0BSwCwUdVX5IKUg1kvTgxt2S41Cmx8oRuLHZuC TH20BnK5Kv3UPlnfwTyEa/KnVSzrlJkZ1VeorS6e0xLHTclnjvuN/XsWby/RvYDWqhPF 5veE/eEXM7JKtoPsvPHXcyVrIj1O72SH6qLWIEx9I82tpYTcvjB+F7iB3Txdmqy/HDES jRmYh2wrTDa9HcSWmQVuK3rh58xRtLq6SaL/IRkgB9K2xT9Oz341ggwPqjfSlkfoax5f vk8WWWX8E8vCa3Xy8vrKdFhlCwKhdTDRNV/nbX9kEbqsZvydEVKDSKt/rQbklnozO/vv vYLg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=74ukbBIL1q9XHhS2vtZIAXeTmAzp+RvEQqoMIzwzIxM=; b=e4yqiVRnv0PFLV8dgF0W+fktNpSRRHOrrvIdsEP2pf73HjPZGTPC5N9OlCBg50uPFd 3ATmCanonfKT6Ttyw2u4cwx39YiL+io56ZKZT7/ZRL1VotovaDKVabsYRKl2pL7PPKfE +UO3Wt3/kAgcZmWKcQmo+SFUmaI909RK55grwL2GUjuxfJKplaPcIGVbzWShElg0g8Hw YrSsOFjw1nDDsTIIBLmIV9UBENLQqv6v0RPAJtjwFxIcJ+MWUy8a7qag8JCSDtOPk6oL owVxbPme2W1QeYa32Y04XRkGcODDZ8UjEz9lS2tTfOQ+8syVGBQXStBMUSrPVJ5TiCf/ 1E3A== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwPbHi9O+pkdpbpqeYV/i6fvOC1GVrmIxy9tR5Z+HtRUecvx5A0DSH9DE5AIWpQbMQ== X-Received: by 10.36.155.213 with SMTP id o204mr1551801itd.96.1472784719754; Thu, 01 Sep 2016 19:51:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zony ([45.2.7.130]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id j76sm3969581itb.2.2016.09.01.19.51.58 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 01 Sep 2016 19:51:59 -0700 (PDT) From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#6180: 23.2; Windows XP: crash when scrolling down after 'M-x describe-fontset' or 'C-h h' References: <4BEB358D.1000605@gmx.de> <87shtu7wx4.fsf@cochranmail.com> <87mvk1u1ys.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2016 22:52:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87mvk1u1ys.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> (npostavs@users.sourceforge.net's message of "Wed, 24 Aug 2016 20:27:55 -0400") Message-ID: <87d1knovx8.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) tags 6180 unreproducible close 6180 tags 23935 unreproducible close 23935 quit npostavs@users.sourceforge.net writes: > This sounds a lot like 23935 (i.e., it's likely to be font-specific), > though Drew reported (on Windows 7) that 24.5, 23.4.1, and 22.3 did not > crash when displaying HELLO. I think we may as well close both as > unreproducible, as there doesn't seem to be any possiblity of making > progress on them. From unknown Fri Aug 15 15:32:36 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator