Package: emacs;
Reported by: Lynn Winebarger <owinebar <at> gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 12:57:02 UTC
Severity: wishlist
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(Thu, 23 Feb 2023 12:57:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.Lynn Winebarger <owinebar <at> gmail.com>
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(Thu, 23 Feb 2023 12:57:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):
From: Lynn Winebarger <owinebar <at> gmail.com> To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org Subject: emacs-dump-portable fails in 29.0.60 Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 07:55:53 -0500
Redumping libraries that create overlays on loading fails now, but did not in 28.2. For example, the following line from icomplete makes it fail while dumping: emacs -Q -batch --eval '(defvar icomplete-overlay (make-overlay (point-min) (point-min) nil t t) "Overlay used to display the list of completions.")' --eval '(dump-emacs-portable "test.pdmp")' will dump core. Redumping libraries that treesit-font-lock-rules will also fail now due to a "weird pseudovector". This is not a regression itself, as it is a new feature, but it has been added to libraries that previously redumped without issue, such as sh-script. So emacs -Q -batch --eval '(load "progmodes/sh-script")' --eval '(dump-emacs-portable "test.pdmp")' will fail. These issues make switching to 29.1 a non-starter for users relying on redumping to make startup time reasonable. In GNU Emacs 29.0.60 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.34, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2023-02-12 built on localhost.localdomain Repository revision: d4fc70129786f0c90f76e1868203d63a59f3f92d Repository branch: emacs-29 Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12003000 System Description: openSUSE Leap 15.4 Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP X11 XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LC_CTYPE: en_US.utf8 value of $LANG: en_US.utf8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=fcitx locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: TeX-PDF-mode: t global-semantic-mru-bookmark-mode: t global-semanticdb-minor-mode: t global-semantic-decoration-mode: t global-semantic-idle-breadcrumbs-mode: t 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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> To: Lynn Winebarger <owinebar <at> gmail.com> Cc: 61733 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#61733: emacs-dump-portable fails in 29.0.60 Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 16:50:46 +0200
> From: Lynn Winebarger <owinebar <at> gmail.com> > Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 07:55:53 -0500 > > These issues make switching to 29.1 a non-starter for users relying on > redumping to make startup time reasonable. No one should be relying on redumping, because Emacs does not (yet) support that.
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From: Lynn Winebarger <owinebar <at> gmail.com> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> Cc: 61733 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#61733: emacs-dump-portable fails in 29.0.60 Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 17:48:19 -0500
On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 9:50 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote: > > From: Lynn Winebarger <owinebar <at> gmail.com> > > Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 07:55:53 -0500 > > > > These issues make switching to 29.1 a non-starter for users relying on > > redumping to make startup time reasonable. > > No one should be relying on redumping, because Emacs does not (yet) > support that. In what sense? As of 28.2, practically every library included with the emacs distribution that can be loaded successfully can be followed by an invocation of dump-emacs-portable without an error, and certainly without any core dumps. Those dump files can also be loaded successfully. The normal-top-level function is brittle, as is the system for setting customization variables at startup. But those issues are separate from the redumping functionality, by which I only mean invoking dump-emacs-portable outside of dump-mode. Lynn
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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> To: Lynn Winebarger <owinebar <at> gmail.com> Cc: 61733 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#61733: emacs-dump-portable fails in 29.0.60 Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 09:06:22 +0200
> From: Lynn Winebarger <owinebar <at> gmail.com> > Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 17:48:19 -0500 > Cc: 61733 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 9:50 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote: > > > From: Lynn Winebarger <owinebar <at> gmail.com> > > > Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 07:55:53 -0500 > > > > > > These issues make switching to 29.1 a non-starter for users relying on > > > redumping to make startup time reasonable. > > > > No one should be relying on redumping, because Emacs does not (yet) > > support that. > > In what sense? In the sense that it doesn't yet work reliably. If it works for someone, it's sheer luck. E.g., see this: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=34936#16 > The normal-top-level function is brittle, as is the system for setting > customization variables at startup. But those issues are separate > from the redumping functionality, by which I only mean invoking > dump-emacs-portable outside of dump-mode. They are not separate, they are all part of a large problem: some initialization code in Emacs doesn't support multiple restarts.
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