From unknown Tue Jun 24 05:08:02 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#6128 <6128@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#6128 <6128@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Suggestion for improving info node "GDB Graphical Interface" Reply-To: bug#6128 <6128@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 12:08:02 +0000 retitle 6128 Suggestion for improving info node "GDB Graphical Interface" reassign 6128 emacs submitter 6128 Reuben Thomas severity 6128 minor thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 06 17:43:15 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 May 2010 21:43:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OA8qg-0007Qk-VF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2010 17:43:15 -0400 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OA8qe-0007Qe-Am for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2010 17:43:13 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:33949) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OA8qY-0001BJ-RC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2010 17:43:06 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1OA8qY-00015l-2O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2010 17:43:06 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43513 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OA8qX-00014l-M4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2010 17:43:05 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OA8qV-0001As-Ty for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2010 17:43:05 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on monty-python X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:56637) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OA8qV-0001Ad-HC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2010 17:43:03 -0400 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:60692 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OA8qU-0001vn-W9 for bug-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2010 17:43:03 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:52778) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OA8j5-00010g-Mc for bug-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2010 17:35:23 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OA8j2-0005sS-Q1 for bug-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2010 17:35:22 -0400 Received: from exprod7og102.obsmtp.com ([64.18.2.157]:56958) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OA8j2-0005s6-FG for bug-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2010 17:35:20 -0400 Received: from source ([74.125.83.41]) by exprod7ob102.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKS+M2FTkfdARBnnxFOKSOrAdKNY5NFlZ7@postini.com; Thu, 06 May 2010 14:35:20 PDT Received: by gwj18 with SMTP id 18so402292gwj.0 for ; Thu, 06 May 2010 14:35:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.75.8 with SMTP id x8mr2705813yba.121.1273181716192; Thu, 06 May 2010 14:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.107.6 with HTTP; Thu, 6 May 2010 14:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 22:35:15 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Suggestion for improving info node "GDB Graphical Interface" From: Reuben Thomas To: bug-emacs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.7 (----) "In effect, this makes Emacs into an IDE (interactive development environment)." I suggest this sentence be removed. There are two problems: first, "IDE" stands for "Integrated Development Environment", not "Interactive Development Environment". Secondly, the GDB Graphical Interface does not make Emacs either of those things: it is both already integrated (in this case, for debugging, with the existing gud-* modes) and interactive (fundamentally). Perhaps the intention of this sentence is to advertise that this mode can make Emacs more like a more typical GUI-based IDE, but that dubious both as a statement and as a wish. -- http://rrt.sc3d.org From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 07 03:40:06 2010 Received: (at 6128) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 May 2010 07:40:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OAIAI-0003cO-KH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 May 2010 03:40:06 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OAIAG-0003bz-3r for 6128@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 May 2010 03:40:05 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 May 2010 07:39:59 -0000 Received: from i59F571D2.versanet.de (EHLO escher.home) [89.245.113.210] by mail.gmx.net (mp014) with SMTP; 07 May 2010 09:39:59 +0200 X-Authenticated: #20778731 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/sPtxrOp3srn7e2fsuUKhUcgfm4iLMmuhdVXVVJF iZaxUkt0VPR+oh Received: by escher.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4E578102BA; Fri, 7 May 2010 09:39:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Stephen Berman To: Reuben Thomas Subject: Re: bug#6128: Suggestion for improving info node "GDB Graphical Interface" References: Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 09:39:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Reuben Thomas's message of "Thu, 6 May 2010 22:35:15 +0100") Message-ID: <87pr18i2i9.fsf@escher.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6128 Cc: 6128@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) On Thu, 6 May 2010 22:35:15 +0100 Reuben Thomas wrote: > "In effect, this makes Emacs into an IDE (interactive development environment)." > > I suggest this sentence be removed. There are two problems: first, > "IDE" stands for "Integrated Development Environment", not > "Interactive Development Environment". Secondly, the GDB Graphical > Interface does not make Emacs either of those things: it is both > already integrated (in this case, for debugging, with the existing > gud-* modes) and interactive (fundamentally). Perhaps the intention of > this sentence is to advertise that this mode can make Emacs more like > a more typical GUI-based IDE, but that dubious both as a statement and > as a wish. I agree the sentence should be removed, which would obviate needing to correct its grammar (to either "makes Emacs an IDE" or "turns Emacs into an IDE"). Steve Berman From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 07 10:51:36 2010 Received: (at 6128-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 May 2010 14:51:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OAOts-0007Uu-55 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 May 2010 10:51:36 -0400 Received: from pantheon-po30.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.4]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OAOtq-0007Up-KS for 6128-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 May 2010 10:51:35 -0400 Received: from furry (dhcp128036014104.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.104]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po30.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o47EpWsd031708 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 7 May 2010 10:51:32 -0400 Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 63666C055; Fri, 7 May 2010 10:51:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: Stephen Berman Subject: Re: bug#6128: Suggestion for improving info node "GDB Graphical Interface" References: <87pr18i2i9.fsf@escher.home> Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 10:51:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87pr18i2i9.fsf@escher.home> (Stephen Berman's message of "Fri, 07 May 2010 09:39:58 +0200") Message-ID: <87632zzrws.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.97 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6128-done Cc: 6128-done@debbugs.gnu.org, Reuben Thomas X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Stephen Berman writes: > On Thu, 6 May 2010 22:35:15 +0100 Reuben Thomas wrote: > >> "In effect, this makes Emacs into an IDE (interactive development environment)." >> >> I suggest this sentence be removed. There are two problems: first, >> "IDE" stands for "Integrated Development Environment", not >> "Interactive Development Environment". Secondly, the GDB Graphical >> Interface does not make Emacs either of those things: it is both >> already integrated (in this case, for debugging, with the existing >> gud-* modes) and interactive (fundamentally). Perhaps the intention of >> this sentence is to advertise that this mode can make Emacs more like >> a more typical GUI-based IDE, but that dubious both as a statement and >> as a wish. > > I agree the sentence should be removed, which would obviate needing to > correct its grammar (to either "makes Emacs an IDE" or "turns Emacs into > an IDE"). I agree. Committed to the repository. From unknown Tue Jun 24 05:08:02 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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