From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 03 08:45:03 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 May 2010 12:45:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O8v1D-0002Gx-C4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 May 2010 08:45:03 -0400 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O8v1B-0002GP-7D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 May 2010 08:45:01 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:47604) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1O8v16-00084z-3C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 May 2010 08:44:56 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O8v15-0004PP-Jd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 May 2010 08:44:55 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=50079 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O8v14-0004OZ-Dy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 May 2010 08:44:55 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.0 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O8v13-0004T8-BS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 May 2010 08:44:54 -0400 Received: from mail-fx0-f41.google.com ([209.85.161.41]:54769) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O8v13-0004T1-5A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 May 2010 08:44:53 -0400 Received: by fxm1 with SMTP id 1so2095341fxm.0 for ; Mon, 03 May 2010 05:44:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=IsN5bYUZLDfy/5HWsVABLFnmsUyk4L6oGo8THQn/wP4=; b=XAOKhCJucbFw5TrcHzmw7Lvvup8vsQTCCucUnjoXTCbnMwkeVg7l5p0FSFPjJckFAD 99j8g/IgoINwq+//CVZycAQK74g6u7qO34fSPHwYKMdRx3sp78RE5tOEIXQ5Wgg22AjD 3BjfWj0OlGohyhBRj+yIIYTSOb8ZS05iXKhqE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=p/Bu02M7OekXVVknSkxsea2lqTydRUfT1e9v3r5KCICFiU2K1pAT6ex68xzHO8Dxeo 02jijvo8oN2cojq/1gbqqwdjgdy33Nnj5wi53vIVnpxPQThwx8B7Yv9fNHPsHQNo0uq4 58FD8Wvr5O+RXRkkij9VtQgFcILwybnhrII3o= Received: by 10.239.158.207 with SMTP id v15mr1440163hbc.101.1272890691958; Mon, 03 May 2010 05:44:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.164.81 with HTTP; Mon, 3 May 2010 05:44:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Lennart Borgman Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 14:44:31 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Please record all warnings and errors in the *messages* buffer To: Emacs Bugs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -4.5 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.5 (----) Could we please coordinate warnings, errors and messages? This could make it more easy to find errors. I suggest as a simple first step to record all errors and warnings in the message buffer. For warnings this is very simple. Just move the code for noninteractive in display-warnings so that it is always run. For errors this means outputting a message even when debug-on-error is non-nil. I am not sure how to do that. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 05 14:47:08 2010 Received: (at 6088) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 May 2010 18:47:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O9jch-0007I6-MW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 May 2010 14:47:07 -0400 Received: from smtp-out1.starman.ee ([85.253.0.3] helo=mx1.starman.ee) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O9jcf-0007Hj-D0 for 6088@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 May 2010 14:47:06 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by Amavisd-New at mx1.starman.ee Received: from mail.starman.ee (82.131.29.84.cable.starman.ee [82.131.29.84]) by mx1.starman.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD593F4120; Wed, 5 May 2010 21:46:57 +0300 (EEST) From: Juri Linkov To: Lennart Borgman Subject: Re: bug#6088: Please record all warnings and errors in the *messages* buffer Organization: JURTA References: Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 21:31:12 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Mon, 3 May 2010 14:44:31 +0200") Message-ID: <871vdqmbse.fsf@mail.jurta.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6088 Cc: 6088@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) > Could we please coordinate warnings, errors and messages? This could > make it more easy to find errors. > > I suggest as a simple first step to record all errors and warnings in > the message buffer. > > For warnings this is very simple. Just move the code for > noninteractive in display-warnings so that it is always run. Do you mean to duplicate messages from the *Warnings* buffer to the *Messages* buffer? > For errors this means outputting a message even when debug-on-error is > non-nil. I am not sure how to do that. Do you want this for `error' or for your new function `user-error'? -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 05 15:00:20 2010 Received: (at 6088) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 May 2010 19:00:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O9jpU-0007OG-3p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 May 2010 15:00:20 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.159]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O9jpS-0007OB-8Q for 6088@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 May 2010 15:00:18 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 22so80219fge.15 for <6088@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 05 May 2010 12:00:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=+HYPWvIN3K16VZtdcaLtvI2I1Nj3bmYqlD8Pft5jXQ8=; b=RqcRYaspNsqotg9k8xRtnh3uks4iVM+eQY93+gkXgUTIHwWyry4xe6Yw3nvPD7AHyS oou+7tuzXKy/kLlDnRsPVnHx+Ph8dJiv6hTdI8SbqS6dVR9HG6mOUcB863Fu/Ad4kK43 36zEoaZl974hJIXxu0xnmKof+4cP/p0AAbkhA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=LBCNUpOkIcTpoKH7FNLbWWpuJqc3PPWQp7gtC1DBDB8GjMRvicXxvMlZ41CpOBv/oo 5g4hVOV86UbSUqqaXipWx4L5NN2MAqMzLUHDGOoCCdb4L0WV0jTMp/3RlXe5hbY1GGUL SW7tJZlu0wW+Mh8hW2QGI8LAc1jmC6i2IgYLI= Received: by 10.239.158.207 with SMTP id v15mr1815197hbc.101.1273086013263; Wed, 05 May 2010 12:00:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.164.81 with HTTP; Wed, 5 May 2010 11:59:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <871vdqmbse.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <871vdqmbse.fsf@mail.jurta.org> From: Lennart Borgman Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 20:59:53 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#6088: Please record all warnings and errors in the *messages* buffer To: Juri Linkov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6088 Cc: 6088@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Juri Linkov wrote: >> Could we please coordinate warnings, errors and messages? This could >> make it more easy to find errors. >> >> I suggest as a simple first step to record all errors and warnings in >> the message buffer. >> >> For warnings this is very simple. Just move the code for >> noninteractive in display-warnings so that it is always run. > > Do you mean to duplicate messages from the *Warnings* buffer to the > *Messages* buffer? Yes, that is a good beginning. >> For errors this means outputting a message even when debug-on-error is >> non-nil. I am not sure how to do that. > > Do you want this for `error' or for your new function `user-error'? For `error'. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 05 15:14:45 2010 Received: (at 6088) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 May 2010 19:14:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O9k3Q-0007UO-T4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 May 2010 15:14:45 -0400 Received: from smtp-out1.starman.ee ([85.253.0.3] helo=mx1.starman.ee) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O9k3O-0007UI-J9 for 6088@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 May 2010 15:14:43 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by Amavisd-New at mx1.starman.ee Received: from mail.starman.ee (82.131.29.84.cable.starman.ee [82.131.29.84]) by mx1.starman.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 772CF3F4125; Wed, 5 May 2010 22:14:33 +0300 (EEST) From: Juri Linkov To: Lennart Borgman Subject: Re: bug#6088: Please record all warnings and errors in the *messages* buffer Organization: JURTA References: <871vdqmbse.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 22:14:14 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Wed, 5 May 2010 20:59:53 +0200") Message-ID: <87eihqkvp5.fsf@mail.jurta.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6088 Cc: 6088@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) >>> For errors this means outputting a message even when debug-on-error is >>> non-nil. I am not sure how to do that. >> >> Do you want this for `error' or for your new function `user-error'? > > For `error'. Why not for `user-error'? It is intended for user-level errors, so users might want to be able to find there errors in the *Messages* buffer. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 20 14:32:49 2020 Received: (at 6088) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Aug 2020 18:32:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44034 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k8pMm-0001cP-TV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 14:32:49 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:60980) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k8pMk-0001X5-Uk for 6088@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 14:32:47 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=PeHSn67u3oqykUcJ7dYYvkMebKpk+uvT1oRlKN+bdz0=; b=S5Y831o9pWFP5RMOe8ffxtY6XY ePj9uOsjLOGrZr70fhZEW0bMJkeXjrHNUUiWnyKAcIMLBnwfieSsQXLuAvpfN/bQRsh4rgUFnWGDU RBtGX2KYVJs/+19juB93vbzZa1FUgJmDKLhHc88YRPEka0ZcGtnU+neb9sbtGnsFyNxQ=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k8pMc-0000Lg-1A; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 20:32:40 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Lennart Borgman Subject: Re: bug#6088: Please record all warnings and errors in the *messages* buffer References: X-Now-Playing: A Tribe Called Quest's _People's Instinctive Travels And The Paths Of Rhythm_: "Bonita Applebum" Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 20:32:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Mon, 3 May 2010 14:44:31 +0200") Message-ID: <87tuwxmam3.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lennart Borgman writes: > Could we please coordinate warnings, errors and messages? This could > make it more easy to find errors. > > I suggest as a simple first step to record all errors and warnings in > the message buffe [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6088 Cc: 6088@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lennart Borgman writes: > Could we please coordinate warnings, errors and messages? This could > make it more easy to find errors. > > I suggest as a simple first step to record all errors and warnings in > the message buffer. I think it would be confusing for the *Warnings* stuff to show up in *Messages*, too. > For errors this means outputting a message even when debug-on-error is > non-nil. I am not sure how to do that. If debug-on-error is nil, it looks like the error messages already end up in the *Messages* buffer. When we have debug-on-error non-nil, I don't quite a use case for doing that, and it would be a bit inconsistent: We haven't actually shown the error message, so putting it in the *Messages* buffer doesn't seem quite right. 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