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Shouldn'= t it be reserved for things like errors? In GNU Emacs 29.0.60 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.33, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2023-01-14 built on bdeb404024db Repository revision: bdbb7099784eb79ef9b94bb85f0c3dc9dae82d6c Repository branch: emacs-29 Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101003 System Description: Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS Configured using: 'configure --prefix=3D/usr --program-suffix=3D29 --with-json --with-x --with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk3 --with-cairo --with-compress-install --with-modules=3Dyes --with-threads --with-included-regex --with-zlib --without-tree-sitter --with-native-compilation 'CFLAGS=3D-g -O2 -ffile-prefix-map=3D/home/paag/emacs=3D. -flto=3Dauto -ffat-lto-objects -flto=3Dauto -ffat-lto-objects -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=3Dformat-security' 'CPPFLAGS=3D-Wdate-time -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3D2' 'LDFLAGS=3D-Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -flto=3Dauto -ffat-lto-objects -flto=3Dauto -Wl,-z,relro'' Configured features: CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LC_MONETARY: es_ES.UTF-8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: es_ES.UTF-8 value of $LC_TIME: es_ES.UTF-8 value of $LANG: en_GB.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=3Dibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t line-number-mode: t indent-tabs-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message mailcap yank-media puny dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util text-property-search mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils comp comp-cstr warnings cl-seq cl-macs gv cl-extra help-mode bytecomp byte-compile org ob ob-tangle ob-ref ob-lob ob-table ob-exp org-macro org-src ob-comint org-pcomplete pcomplete comint ansi-osc ansi-color ring org-list org-footnote org-faces org-entities time-date subr-x noutline outline icons ob-emacs-lisp ob-core ob-eval org-cycle org-table ol rx org-fold org-fold-core org-keys oc org-loaddefs find-func cal-menu calendar cal-loaddefs org-version org-compat org-macs format-spec cl-loaddefs cl-lib rmc iso-transl tooltip cconv eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer nadvice seq simple cl-generic indonesian philippine cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure cl-preloaded button loaddefs theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget keymap hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit xinput2 x multi-tty make-network-process native-compile emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 138339 8519) (symbols 48 12182 0) (strings 32 38825 2002) (string-bytes 1 1214298) (vectors 16 23551) (vector-slots 8 443047 16748) (floats 8 97 86) (intervals 56 276 0) (buffers 984 12)) --=20 Fragen sind nicht da um beantwortet zu werden, Fragen sind da um gestellt zu werden Georg Kreisler Headaches with a Juju log: unit-basic-16: 09:17:36 WARNING juju.worker.uniter.operation we should run a leader-deposed hook here, but we can't yet --0000000000001c96c005f25bb6d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I created a f= ile called /tmp/test.el with the following contents:

--cut here--
(require 'org)
--cut here--

and then called emacs as

ema= cs -Q -l /tmp/test.el

I get the following message = in the *Warnings* buffer:

=E2=9B=94 Warning (comp)= : org-loaddefs.el.gz:846:61: Warning: Unused lexical variable `org-element-= use-cache'

BTW: Isn't =E2=9B=94 a bit to &= quot;visually drastic" for a _warning_ ? Shouldn't it be
reserved for things like errors?


I= n GNU Emacs 29.0.60 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
= =C2=A03.24.33, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2023-01-14 built on bdeb404024db
Repository revision: bdbb7099784eb79ef9b94bb85f0c3dc9dae82d6c
=
Repository branch: emacs-29
Windowing system distributor = 9;The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101003
System Descrip= tion: Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS

Configured using:
=C2=A0'configure --prefix=3D/usr --program-suffix=3D29 --with-json -= -with-x
=C2=A0--with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk3 --with-cairo --with-compres= s-install
=C2=A0--with-modules=3Dyes --with-threads --with-includ= ed-regex --with-zlib
=C2=A0--without-tree-sitter --with-native-co= mpilation 'CFLAGS=3D-g -O2
=C2=A0-ffile-prefix-map=3D/home/pa= ag/emacs=3D. -flto=3Dauto -ffat-lto-objects
=C2=A0-flto=3Dauto -f= fat-lto-objects -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat
=C2=A0-Werror= =3Dformat-security' 'CPPFLAGS=3D-Wdate-time -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3D2&#= 39;
=C2=A0'LDFLAGS=3D-Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -flto=3Dauto -f= fat-lto-objects
=C2=A0-flto=3Dauto -Wl,-z,relro''

Configured features:
CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GL= IB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON
LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 MOD= ULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG
SECCOMP SOUND THREADS= TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM
GTK3 ZLIB

Important settings:
=C2=A0 value of $LC_MONE= TARY: es_ES.UTF-8
=C2=A0 value of $LC_NUMERIC: es_ES.UTF-8
<= div>=C2=A0 value of $LC_TIME: es_ES.UTF-8
=C2=A0 value of $LANG: = en_GB.UTF-8
=C2=A0 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=3Dibus
=C2= =A0 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: L= isp Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
= =C2=A0 tooltip-mode: t
=C2=A0 global-eldoc-mode: t
=C2= =A0 eldoc-mode: t
=C2=A0 show-paren-mode: t
=C2=A0 elec= tric-indent-mode: t
=C2=A0 mouse-wheel-mode: t
=C2=A0 t= ool-bar-mode: t
=C2=A0 menu-bar-mode: t
=C2=A0 file-nam= e-shadow-mode: t
=C2=A0 global-font-lock-mode: t
=C2=A0= font-lock-mode: t
=C2=A0 blink-cursor-mode: t
=C2=A0 l= ine-number-mode: t
=C2=A0 indent-tabs-mode: t
=C2=A0 tr= ansient-mark-mode: t
=C2=A0 auto-composition-mode: t
= =C2=A0 auto-encryption-mode: t
=C2=A0 auto-compression-mode: t

Load-path shadows:
None found.
<= br>
Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message m= ailcap yank-media puny dired
dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec pa= ssword-cache epa derived epg rfc6068
epg-config gnus-util text-pr= operty-search mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode
mail-parse rfc2231 ma= ilabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047
rfc2045 ietf-drums= mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils comp comp-cstr warnings
cl-seq cl-= macs gv cl-extra help-mode bytecomp byte-compile org ob
ob-tangle= ob-ref ob-lob ob-table ob-exp org-macro org-src ob-comint
org-pc= omplete pcomplete comint ansi-osc ansi-color ring org-list
org-fo= otnote org-faces org-entities time-date subr-x noutline outline
i= cons ob-emacs-lisp ob-core ob-eval org-cycle org-table ol rx org-fold
=
org-fold-core org-keys oc org-loaddefs find-func cal-menu calendar
cal-loaddefs org-version org-compat org-macs format-spec cl-loaddefs=
cl-lib rmc iso-transl tooltip cconv eldoc paren electric uniquif= y
ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel term/x-wi= n x-win
term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-o= pt fringe
tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode p= rog-mode register
page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easym= enu timer select
scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-= core term/tty-colors
frame minibuffer nadvice seq simple cl-gener= ic indonesian philippine
cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietn= amese tibetan thai tai-viet lao
korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 = hebrew greek romanian slovak czech
european ethiopic indian cyril= lic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript
charprop case-table ep= a-hook jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure
cl-preloaded bu= tton loaddefs theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp
files window= text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env
code-pages mu= le custom widget keymap hashtable-print-readable backquote
thread= s dbusbind inotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting
font-rende= r-setting cairo move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit xinput2 x multi-tty
ma= ke-network-process native-compile emacs)

Memory in= formation:
((conses 16 138339 8519)
=C2=A0(symbols 48 1= 2182 0)
=C2=A0(strings 32 38825 2002)
=C2=A0(string-byt= es 1 1214298)
=C2=A0(vectors 16 23551)
=C2=A0(vector-sl= ots 8 443047 16748)
=C2=A0(floats 8 97 86)
=C2=A0(inter= vals 56 276 0)
=C2=A0(buffers 984 12))

= --
Fragen sind nicht da um beantwortet zu werden,
<= /div>Fragen sind da um gestellt zu werden
Georg Kreisler

Headaches with a Juju log:
unit-basic-16: 09:17:3= 6 WARNING juju.worker.uniter.operation we should run a leader-deposed hook = here, but we can't yet

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[76.168.148.233]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id b126-20020a62cf84000000b00574e84ed847sm7294474pfg.24.2023.01.15.22.50.01 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 15 Jan 2023 22:50:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <0c7c6282-f076-ea46-86fb-cb0b87e25493@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2023 22:50:01 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: bug#60850: Content-Language: en-US To: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez , 60850@debbugs.gnu.org References: From: Jim Porter In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60850 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 1/15/2023 10:29 PM, Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez wrote: > BTW: Isn't ⛔ a bit to "visually drastic" for a _warning_ ? Shouldn't it be > reserved for things like errors? Maybe worth filing a separate bug about this, but how about ⚠️ instead? Its official name is "Warning Sign", which seems appropriate. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 16 02:35:50 2023 Received: (at 60850) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jan 2023 07:35:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60326 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pHK21-0004yF-N8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2023 02:35:49 -0500 Received: from mail-ej1-f44.google.com ([209.85.218.44]:42776) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pHK20-0004xy-Pc for 60850@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2023 02:35:49 -0500 Received: by mail-ej1-f44.google.com with SMTP id bk15so8465765ejb.9 for <60850@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 15 Jan 2023 23:35:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=V/Xex2a2VCZ6a1g1Ug8JGKrwSaJqn7xc3Xu7RBtPDWQ=; b=blr/4Fkd9+R6B8EbG4gmkbTRNm3KKchk61A4ViJrsvDCRdzWT2qRVDbi1soElfSMs9 tFsz+977PQqozyNJ883+g7dMfVsWE2j6vbT2nfUclWVKUS079wN4koYGHRJTBxvbbPEI AzbtTfAVHnlkqjRDa82QjkPlA49SvGYCTqjyaPzs1IMjspYKSsLm9rIB/fbdWoTifRDX AYu/Cg6QSAsoK/X2i7A/1vyYxcfZEsN+WZZdA7LNEcvmdsOGtKJ1y7j8lQJqAWu9bzGN pdZSH4a56R9Ru8LlPbxmvA7Mr7o2UlzDLLKIsrpX9rCK1wGRtE9u5JVqeabwDlnNoETd +24w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=V/Xex2a2VCZ6a1g1Ug8JGKrwSaJqn7xc3Xu7RBtPDWQ=; b=vx49Ti0N257qr4qeJ86X+KipUsTqDh1cam4L/zqNSi3pylkTKXnNFJD6XREwG/HXAG zL0d7ceLckqh+5udVXHxxiAX5uSSldnLSIluZfRAQ925vSBzzNViON3Mk+7JQffmP8tP ybZ9Oi6W2yrzIFFQfVRDqTnpXDnM1zwICVqjDdUf/AlgIPicv1D14VuC9a5WGYxaHbsJ YljODXrHz3PfUuYLbDgvc8jDo/Yj80d/9ETf0vrLi9qF5w2ow2ZL2K+CLh7zvqhamcbo ep13zTcwHdHFi6IRji2QySGrmx+Z0KOV/9ChFPSR4GLY5H2SQBZg72XmepXRtwapaxEi 5CBQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kqnVew7KgTI3ahUGEilXdbdoHH1kX2zf6GuqiFjeAogubT+g/rw FTRl9d2DGj7vSdUgrRK0hptQJa+82HeOazDKHbg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXuTii5ICSX1e9li41vxcRanqearkmTkSzudEtp02UbXH+7rGW3H7fUSimJp61W85B+Smko56O2VeFNP6yx7ASM= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:910:b0:7c1:136d:b841 with SMTP id i16-20020a170906091000b007c1136db841mr6266768ejd.216.1673854542976; Sun, 15 Jan 2023 23:35:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0c7c6282-f076-ea46-86fb-cb0b87e25493@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <0c7c6282-f076-ea46-86fb-cb0b87e25493@gmail.com> From: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 08:35:16 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#60850: To: Jim Porter Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000709b5e05f25ca102" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60850 Cc: 60850@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --000000000000709b5e05f25ca102 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Done! On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 at 07:50, Jim Porter wrote: > On 1/15/2023 10:29 PM, Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez wrote: > > BTW: Isn't =E2=9B=94 a bit to "visually drastic" for a _warning_ ? Shou= ldn't it > be > > reserved for things like errors? > > Maybe worth filing a separate bug about this, but how about =EF=BB=BF=E2= =9A=A0=EF=B8=8F instead? > Its official name is "Warning Sign", which seems appropriate. > --=20 Fragen sind nicht da um beantwortet zu werden, Fragen sind da um gestellt zu werden Georg Kreisler Headaches with a Juju log: unit-basic-16: 09:17:36 WARNING juju.worker.uniter.operation we should run a leader-deposed hook here, but we can't yet --000000000000709b5e05f25ca102 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Done!

On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 at 07:50, Jim Porter <jporterbugs@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/15/2023 10:2= 9 PM, Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez wrote:
> BTW: Isn't =E2=9B=94 a bit to "visually drastic" for a _= warning_ ? Shouldn't it be
> reserved for things like errors?

Maybe worth filing a separate bug about this, but how about =EF=BB=BF=E2=9A= =A0=EF=B8=8F instead?
Its official name is "Warning Sign", which seems appropriate.


--
Fragen sin= d nicht da um beantwortet zu werden,
Fragen sind da um gestellt zu= werden
Georg Kreisler

Headaches with a J= uju log:
unit-basic-16: 09:17:36 WARNING juju.worker.uniter.opera= tion we should run a leader-deposed hook here, but we can't yet

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--000000000000709b5e05f25ca102-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 16 09:43:59 2023 Received: (at 60850) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jan 2023 14:43:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32796 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pHQiM-0006kj-NP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2023 09:43:58 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38442) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pHQiL-0006kV-Ds for 60850@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2023 09:43:57 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pHQiF-0008Jy-VA; Mon, 16 Jan 2023 09:43:52 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=hmAqn5UH3DX8gMD6OotVTgG2rTxRRZqckhp2IwNQ/Go=; b=rVCxajcVarVAnVWRSEDA RDVSw156gmaE+g+ulUrNimGRH1QMqYVTd32PgV87aM7+E7YRJ78fPEWBKmEfZNRlEYPQwvhjZ4Cge 1Zpkb8qVVUiuUQKh2qFynFhan58vCrWxqrX17eOwW45BfAw2Ac+oXWWoUn4INP71D5K5EE8L+fr2z U974cNh4kR75Y188D2dpDs1MZR+mbHER3F9K0DBuYJ6cvvzyRoiGCRVa/+PkHKTc5MhuU64b1u0UO s4yVQ7ZyRR9TjHdh6sf1L0U0CS7FYpWaFqQA4W021Gozf+E1G/agQ+FFaiYEUh6lCZSvxVkln7ElI 6Om90B9Lsv8f9A==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pHQi2-0000Rm-7r; Mon, 16 Jan 2023 09:43:51 -0500 Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 16:43:46 +0200 Message-Id: <83k01m4k0t.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez In-Reply-To: (message from Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez on Mon, 16 Jan 2023 07:29:28 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#60850: References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60850 Cc: 60850@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez > Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 07:29:28 +0100 > > I created a file called /tmp/test.el with the following contents: > > --cut here-- > (require 'org) > --cut here-- > > and then called emacs as > > emacs -Q -l /tmp/test.el > > I get the following message in the *Warnings* buffer: > > ⛔ Warning (comp): org-loaddefs.el.gz:846:61: Warning: Unused lexical variable `org-element-use-cache' I cannot reproduce this. Crystal ball says that your org-loaddefs.el is stale and needs to be regenerated. > BTW: Isn't ⛔ a bit to "visually drastic" for a _warning_ ? Shouldn't it be > reserved for things like errors? Others explained why this uses that particular icon. I don't see any serious problem there, as any icon I can think of could be confusing to someone. 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Shouldn't it > > be > > > reserved for things like errors? > > > > Maybe worth filing a separate bug about this, but how about ⚠️ instead? > > Its official name is "Warning Sign", which seems appropriate. In what context are these characters used? 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[76.168.148.233]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id d191-20020a621dc8000000b0058193135f6bsm19128974pfd.84.2023.01.16.21.44.38 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 16 Jan 2023 21:44:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7622a8e8-934b-0f7a-3363-b093582fcb26@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 21:44:38 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: bug#60850: Content-Language: en-US To: rms@gnu.org, Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez References: <0c7c6282-f076-ea46-86fb-cb0b87e25493@gmail.com> From: Jim Porter In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60850 Cc: 60850@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 1/16/2023 8:57 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > > On 1/15/2023 10:29 PM, Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez wrote: > > > > BTW: Isn't ⛔ a bit to "visually drastic" for a _warning_ ? Shouldn't it > > > be > > > > reserved for things like errors? > > > > > > Maybe worth filing a separate bug about this, but how about ⚠️ instead? > > > Its official name is "Warning Sign", which seems appropriate. > > In what context are these characters used? I never see them in using > Emacs -- which is a good thing, since the Linux console can't display > them: they appear onit as one or three blue diamonds. They appear in the *Warnings* buffer if some code calls 'display-warning'. You can see what it looks like on your system by evaluating: (display-warning 'some-type "a warning message") The code to generate these icons is (well, should be) smart enough to choose a fallback string instead of ⛔ if your Emacs session can't display that character. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 19 23:00:47 2023 Received: (at 60850) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2023 04:00:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45108 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pIia6-0002dB-UR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 23:00:47 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59622) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pIia4-0002cx-RG for 60850@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 23:00:45 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIiZz-0006YU-Fp; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 23:00:39 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=MJZza1grTumhE7Ot1BlXgxEh8e8K3z3ks3xKuPvoaCo=; b=S6cwSb1efeqv N/v2E/FTh6fQd8iTc5IsAATrsHl/gd1ZIvwiIi/56ZtQH8+fIbViDq5zbSy8lwkUMtyn+UXDITq4c k/Xa5i78Fek8y1eleWwIWdv7t46CCOvdGc55/SkiuXoO9t5RFYihrw+97bvl3IN+OodHANjUTNWFr DaHb+GTn9sttfAQexQc58/h5zsH0EMLWdgbIBEFb9EKhSZ4LhS4qxRY+u6KO7Z1eSSvQ6+gLIeSzi AEC7jNSopV5XkBqLOqcKHvAydvkvvjbCcZwxm9LEtJeXkwRb7EGmQVZS5pP3eGvzj7f7xjoQpaDFe h/YqIcOymj2mrTQTvKfx4g==; Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIiZy-0000X8-Gf; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 23:00:38 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman To: Jim Porter In-Reply-To: <7622a8e8-934b-0f7a-3363-b093582fcb26@gmail.com> (message from Jim Porter on Mon, 16 Jan 2023 21:44:38 -0800) Subject: Re: bug#60850: References: <0c7c6282-f076-ea46-86fb-cb0b87e25493@gmail.com> <7622a8e8-934b-0f7a-3363-b093582fcb26@gmail.com> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 23:00:38 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60850 Cc: 60850@debbugs.gnu.org, paaguti@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > The code to generate these icons is (well, should be) smart enough to > choose a fallback string instead of ⛔ if your Emacs session can't > display that character. That seems to work properly. Thanks. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 05 19:36:01 2023 Received: (at 60850) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2023 23:36:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59820 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qdfaN-0002Jv-KC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Sep 2023 19:36:01 -0400 Received: from mail-lf1-x133.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::133]:45269) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qdfaL-0002Jc-7y for 60850@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Sep 2023 19:35:54 -0400 Received: by mail-lf1-x133.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-500c37d479aso4870633e87.2 for <60850@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 05 Sep 2023 16:35:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1693956946; x=1694561746; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date :mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=iXuqwKQLEYm2BhW6c1YrS3t48Bfgd8HSIG2EdmdDo3I=; b=eqOYWTRtj3ceRuYejNEO81WQZP5qLayBJ89cdcDcP4/Wsji4A/OqAXJbIIyP0vN4Ww VsqrNjwjYcYOFSBeTXOugu6B5B1/j/SDiFeKIr5Tnxn7617WVc1tuRR0+jvlgKCfPdxV XsdaYHUXCIRjxsA3aL8Q5Qs3ZFJc+6f6ORJlkIVYet1B2sqA8iR7P8KOkN7d70f3vygV DUG9EhlG/NHe6vzLwhyoKLZkQUebqoNLl47T4Srs6RtSM03K08DdjxLa5CFJFC7/PXhZ nz5SKiZ6pRrn/mG3howka+PD1bXW5Un2seeqHyJgTI3rDMOmVCk+37m/DqPqdGBF+FOa MWNg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1693956946; x=1694561746; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date :mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to :cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=iXuqwKQLEYm2BhW6c1YrS3t48Bfgd8HSIG2EdmdDo3I=; b=BqhV11BviKbq5yaxQBLJkDnp0BgFFOSrNurUBvpT268pDpNiHq0z/t5yZ7udwIuuBz 38XhpbXO2KyZlh3+sIFQfE64ItjMVmLwf8F3/RMtWbtlYHMGycWiEp3Dv1ah6/x2yWMe CM517P29lp5BfC7YCBQXGJSyReWBxMcsJMTDe62T95hhl9DLewaOZu+y5OzRZrDRahNj lpNt24gl0/ISawSzi8hM91w778GDNfAcdmhFJmOqQDJ/pvqJbMCMPMURp5jobAfjm31l lLuhHpCvW1zadOV+B0OJND2YOiNnFk9QY5bZJCQPXCdc8yK6od+R+3I682bsxtbOs87M 6jxg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yxooy2jvlYtfXjjr9no0RsAtb9xoekteVYz+/nZfgT4tUbSPgVE BqJ2kW7GWsv3EvHGHoP3sD3NQIub6rN/wyCHi6M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEBfOCWofKOX7C1ftfHRChe+MgsiMiiuBxNNkvqlXmJQ6paWaVHYhnhMOr1f4AnrLVxfKar+R7NXLrqMLqPVDM= X-Received: by 2002:a19:ca59:0:b0:500:8725:1351 with SMTP id h25-20020a19ca59000000b0050087251351mr973738lfj.47.1693956946277; Tue, 05 Sep 2023 16:35:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Tue, 5 Sep 2023 16:35:45 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <83k01m4k0t.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 16 Jan 2023 16:43:46 +0200") References: <83k01m4k0t.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2023 16:35:45 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#60850: To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60850 Cc: 60850@debbugs.gnu.org, Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez >> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 07:29:28 +0100 >> >> I created a file called /tmp/test.el with the following contents: >> >> --cut here-- >> (require 'org) >> --cut here-- >> >> and then called emacs as >> >> emacs -Q -l /tmp/test.el >> >> I get the following message in the *Warnings* buffer: >> >> =E2=9B=94 Warning (comp): org-loaddefs.el.gz:846:61: Warning: Unused lex= ical variable `org-element-use-cache' > > I cannot reproduce this. Crystal ball says that your org-loaddefs.el > is stale and needs to be regenerated. Are you still seeing this? It seems like a "make bootstrap" should fix it. 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boundary="0000000000007061210604ab44b1" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60850 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 60850@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --0000000000007061210604ab44b1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI, it is fixed on my side with emacs30 compiled on 05-09-23. Thanks! /PA On Wed, 6 Sept 2023 at 01:35, Stefan Kangas wrote: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez > >> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 07:29:28 +0100 > >> > >> I created a file called /tmp/test.el with the following contents: > >> > >> --cut here-- > >> (require 'org) > >> --cut here-- > >> > >> and then called emacs as > >> > >> emacs -Q -l /tmp/test.el > >> > >> I get the following message in the *Warnings* buffer: > >> > >> =E2=9B=94 Warning (comp): org-loaddefs.el.gz:846:61: Warning: Unused l= exical > variable `org-element-use-cache' > > > > I cannot reproduce this. Crystal ball says that your org-loaddefs.el > > is stale and needs to be regenerated. > > Are you still seeing this? > > It seems like a "make bootstrap" should fix it. > --=20 Fragen sind nicht da, um beantwortet zu werden, Fragen sind da um gestellt zu werden Georg Kreisler Headaches with a Juju log: unit-basic-16: 09:17:36 WARNING juju.worker.uniter.operation we should run a leader-deposed hook here, but we can't yet --0000000000007061210604ab44b1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
HI, it is fixed on my side with emacs30=C2=A0compiled on 0= 5-09-23.

Thanks!
/PA

On Wed, 6 Sept 2023 = at 01:35, Stefan Kangas <stefa= nkangas@gmail.com> wrote:
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti@gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 07:29:28 +0100
>>
>> I created a file called /tmp/test.el with the following contents:<= br> >>
>> --cut here--
>> (require 'org)
>> --cut here--
>>
>> and then called emacs as
>>
>> emacs -Q -l /tmp/test.el
>>
>> I get the following message in the *Warnings* buffer:
>>
>> =E2=9B=94 Warning (comp): org-loaddefs.el.gz:846:61: Warning: Unus= ed lexical variable `org-element-use-cache'
>
> I cannot reproduce this.=C2=A0 Crystal ball says that your org-loaddef= s.el
> is stale and needs to be regenerated.

Are you still seeing this?

It seems like a "make bootstrap" should fix it.


--
Fragen sind nicht da, um bea= ntwortet zu werden,
Fragen sind da um gestellt zu werden
= Georg Kreisler

Headaches with a Juju log:
unit-basic-16: 09:17:36 WARNING juju.worker.uniter.operation we should ru= n a leader-deposed hook here, but we can't yet

--0000000000007061210604ab44b1-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 06 03:31:36 2023 Received: (at 60850-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2023 07:31:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60693 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qdn0f-0003Jj-K2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 03:31:36 -0400 Received: from mail-lf1-x12c.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::12c]:53751) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qdn0d-0003JU-GW for 60850-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 03:31:32 -0400 Received: by mail-lf1-x12c.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-50091b91a83so5516229e87.3 for <60850-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 00:31:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1693985484; x=1694590284; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=tefsCHUhd9/y2LRt6Vt+gOjMNpUFkBB/myE5sLrVWRQ=; b=jt76RAY3L55ttsvC/SxnAhfOJUrt5jbe5yc1ZlcmNOak/+6yPM4zFY2Px7w5Gw5RPE U4/pZtwuYVOB/EVkyANJJad5DdJztRZLAUAMiJMI5q+EdPPXWVP8JoE7aZD5HwHgn14z Dy+GRpskpHtJpC16IASeolN6ko6gfR94o6qJlOfrJC5XPcl9bRdKvgimmojeGtg4wPPh OEHaWxKWj2oG+7rreuosuqwRLGMlYjcx/Qmoc0KUZbwCrRJIhxCPW3iBBjNaPvJhbkLv zcFOl1RLnWZcFujCYUT7DmbJvrbRIaZ5L4SO4ShnfM4+pok/1tO+ln+dTdv6TmJZTxLt TE2g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1693985484; x=1694590284; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=tefsCHUhd9/y2LRt6Vt+gOjMNpUFkBB/myE5sLrVWRQ=; b=EUUqTan2GzL7Dfl3OG/NunjJey2UPqnsfwTlLF34NplN8/FBOrb1JFi/j0mo4O/f6q QzMBFGHC/jwFIOnvHiM0W+ZJUq+wqbsTkFhBu6XJ1wXrKXQziuxoSFknK3sZdg1U1qtj Bgpc+6igPgw04DzrTzz1WT+Rrnp0FvOB3PTBA+M/TGxhFpa+Bj4/5ux55IymX8FlYHQw Lkg1bzIw92CrIh9b0HoNXo0XTUIJr8VWm5KeuqHhYvu67VT3Cd2MAGrL609PYUU3Rcpr xc1xwqwtXrRyrPE9FqhNhwWP9mqx3VE9i/LdT6ZbCfKjxtXXlp/5z0FlDFLkImgeSlK7 2oyQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yx+TQkk171OZZdzjwIybM+cRuYxgkmi/bJa0uVRDHhFRVCZalOg 8ghnI0XARA/WgyCjobsas6bQpoxQSc8bcrRDAPse2/UOvaU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHchmNMmnqNqZt8wmx8jZDx0MJbqraBKyVepWwflxGOlFZAWD84EVGTgVvI4L9H+9DK/6/38Cm6QBR2h3guZGs= X-Received: by 2002:a19:e00e:0:b0:500:79a6:38d4 with SMTP id x14-20020a19e00e000000b0050079a638d4mr1500727lfg.40.1693985484482; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 00:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 6 Sep 2023 00:31:24 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: References: <83k01m4k0t.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2023 00:31:24 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#60850: To: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60850-done Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 60850-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez writes: > HI, it is fixed on my side with emacs30 compiled on 05-09-23. Thanks for reporting back. I'm therefore closing this bug report. From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:46:27 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2023 11:24:23 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator