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23.1.50; delete-selection-mode

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From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: emacs-pretest-bug <at> gnu.org
Subject: 23.1.50; delete-selection-mode
Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 14:38:56 -0400

I found a reproducible test case for the painful result I mentioned
before with C-u C-y in Delete Selection mode.

This Emacs is somewhat old; I have not built a newer one.
I will try to do so soon.

I visit the text between the ---- lines (not including them)
in Fundamental mode, do M-x delete-selection-mode RET to enable it,
then I go to the blank line after the first paragraph and type
C-SPC C-u C-n M-w C-x C-x C-u C-y
and the text does not change.  Apparently C-u C-y deletes
the region before yanking.

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* ACTA must respect sharing and cooperation: it must do nothing that
  would hinder the unremunerated noncommercial making, copying,
  giving, lending, owning, using, transporting, importing or exporting
  of any objects or works.

* ACTA must not weasel about what is commercial: no labeling of any
  noncommercial activities as somehow commercial-like or treating them
  as if they were commercial.

* ACTA must not tighten digital handcuffs: it must not hinder any
  activity in regard to any product on account of its capacity to
  circumvent technical measures that restrict use of copies of works
  of authorship.
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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: <rms <at> gnu.org>, <6073 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: RE: bug#6073: 23.1.50; delete-selection-mode
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 13:07:05 -0700

> I found a reproducible test case for the painful result I mentioned
> before with C-u C-y in Delete Selection mode.
> 
> This Emacs is somewhat old; I have not built a newer one.
> I will try to do so soon.
> 
> I visit the text between the ---- lines (not including them)
> in Fundamental mode, do M-x delete-selection-mode RET to enable it,
> then I go to the blank line after the first paragraph and type
> C-SPC C-u C-n M-w C-x C-x C-u C-y
> and the text does not change.  Apparently C-u C-y deletes
> the region before yanking.
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> * ACTA must respect sharing and cooperation: it must do nothing that
>   would hinder the unremunerated noncommercial making, copying,
>   giving, lending, owning, using, transporting, importing or exporting
>   of any objects or works.
> 
> * ACTA must not weasel about what is commercial: no labeling of any
>   noncommercial activities as somehow commercial-like or treating them
>   as if they were commercial.
> 
> * ACTA must not tighten digital handcuffs: it must not hinder any
>   activity in regard to any product on account of its capacity to
>   circumvent technical measures that restrict use of copies of works
>   of authorship.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

You probably already know this, but in case you do not: C-x C-x activates the
region. Since it is active, your yank replaces the region text.

If you do C-g after C-x C-x I think you will get the behavior you expected.

Message #11 received at 6073 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: rms <at> gnu.org, 6073 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#6073: 23.1.50; delete-selection-mode
Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 20:59:53 -0400

> You probably already know this, but in case you do not: C-x C-x activates the
> region.  Since it is active, your yank replaces the region text.

Indeed.

> If you do C-g after C-x C-x I think you will get the behavior you expected.

Better is to use C-u C-x C-x, which contrary to C-x C-x doesn't activate
the region.


        Stefan

Message #14 received at 6073 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: 6073 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#6073: 23.1.50; delete-selection-mode
Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 14:46:24 -0400

    You probably already know this, but in case you do not: C-x C-x activates the
    region. Since it is active, your yank replaces the region text.

Yes, I know that is the explanation for what happened.
The point is, it was quite inconvenient.  And it surprised
me that C-y would delete the region.

Message #21 received at 6073 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: rms <at> gnu.org
Cc: 6073 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#6073: 23.1.50; delete-selection-mode
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 21:42:37 +0200

Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org> writes:

>     You probably already know this, but in case you do not: C-x C-x
> activates the
>     region. Since it is active, your yank replaces the region text.
>
> Yes, I know that is the explanation for what happened.
> The point is, it was quite inconvenient.  And it surprised
> me that C-y would delete the region.

This is apparently intended behaviour in Emacs 24, so I'm closing this
bug report.

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