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Tue, 5 Sep 2023 16:38:55 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (Xie Shynur's message of "Sat, 7 Jan 2023 19:41:17 +0000") References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2023 16:38:55 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 60639 wontfix close 60639 thanks Xie Shynur writes: > In the section 2.1 "Printed Representation and Read Syntax" > (https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Printed-Representation.html), > word "hash notation" is used to refer to the symbol "#". > But it may well confuse non-native English speakers, because the "hash" is also associated with "hash function". > > A better name for "#" is "number sign". I don't think "number sign" is very clear, and to be honest I think our target audience should have to learn that "#" is called a hash. So we won't be making this change. Sorry. Closing this as wontfix. 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Tue, 5 Sep 2023 18:46:08 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2023 18:46:08 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) reopen 60639 thanks Drew Adams writes: > A simple sentence such as this in Wikipedia can > make things clear: > > "The symbol # is known variously in > English-speaking regions as the number sign,[1] > hash,[2] or pound sign.[3]" > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_sign Fair enough. The patch actually just adds it as an alternative, so in that sense it's already okay. If there are no objections, I think we could install this patch, then. Let's see if there are any other opinions first though. From unknown Sun Aug 10 00:25:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#60639: Improvement to the Wording of GNU Emacs Lisp Reference Manual Resent-From: Visuwesh Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2023 07:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 60639 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Stefan Kangas Cc: Xie Shynur , 60639@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 60639-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B60639.169398713215554 (code B ref 60639); Wed, 06 Sep 2023 07:59:01 +0000 Received: (at 60639) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2023 07:58:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60725 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qdnR5-00042n-WD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 03:58:52 -0400 Received: from mail-pl1-x641.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::641]:42001) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qdnR1-00042U-43 for 60639@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 03:58:51 -0400 Received: by mail-pl1-x641.google.com with SMTP id d9443c01a7336-1c0bae4da38so5011335ad.0 for <60639@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 00:58:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1693987120; x=1694591920; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date :references:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=xKj6fYCUOA2VBguqYkanZhiaUUggMkPF2zeN6x+k2TI=; b=A1glsg28eOHg/1FBDqeZ3TazsoD2P7p/6dZEj0AXWqvYzI9Foawmum16tkmQO4wp+l 9VnuxqL1hksFWCEyEotZQWu57Q/ZxA4SplPaDp4gIXk534b22r24ig6+qSXC4TRnmGzN xx1nQCfRUsik8jJcjfRkByrU80CvmTfWG9LYU8hrrkGipA0QpT18KtwNO2nDFu4FXEk5 GRyIqlJr/oPUZhwFZp9tMo+m4LA9FoIewNqCUfD2YhysLv35vbNHxhMg8Or1AD8E28ZL QwdUM0Lv1ILMqS4B2y17KGuWsJbJYc0E4c3EYyZuJGOUamygvgfcQxUz4FS+ahvZbizO v9AA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1693987120; x=1694591920; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date :references:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from :to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=xKj6fYCUOA2VBguqYkanZhiaUUggMkPF2zeN6x+k2TI=; b=f0D/AhhhB5i7nwX25Vf7A6njviPm5XK7JGOEVkFCRCcoLm7Kmo93eFvlh5v6Ep/6XI n1B3SXf+D4EGHddS1T53i4x9gTF2Od9H3wxACu0jyfKaurtSYRnI8wmOw99zrxRmKAOR g6S96mhpx9pzQMdvhmkphkcgSn7YYMoPiujgn98huNKDlQ7PopBLGy7mit38I3Rm2V5y ASrggIoc3BBMz9zsLEG3Y8nBCx9JNggZzUhtJU9CMW8ng6EaqigmEY0OFzkfzkjDscRD 8dHjRSZxvL39CMTYzZaTbuIcUMd9+O0UAjSkS4LRpAY1Qb0eRvVaxZRE4fmCQhxhEAuM dHiQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyGZpOiXItvWpMS21eow2GekkqU290ydHR1uP6ncbc8R5lS4IrP LiGuKMdv3x79iKPQ3t52Nw0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEy19hcsVQc2JIuDh6qNaRplYJN9IzZwePvTcZMT6uUz++6nk86Tg8Z4GPHRwkvGz3jvMlS5Q== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:db08:b0:1bb:d586:d29a with SMTP id m8-20020a170902db0800b001bbd586d29amr21622711plx.34.1693987120067; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 00:58:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([118.185.152.162]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c13-20020a170902d48d00b001bee782a1desm10484239plg.181.2023.09.06.00.58.39 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 06 Sep 2023 00:58:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Visuwesh In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Tue, 5 Sep 2023 16:38:55 -0700") References: Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2023 13:28:36 +0530 Message-ID: <874jk7g2c3.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) [=E0=AE=9A=E0=AF=86=E0=AE=B5=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=B5=E0=AE=BE=E0=AE=AF=E0=AF=8D = =E0=AE=9A=E0=AF=86=E0=AE=AA=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=9F=E0=AE=AE=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=AA=E0= =AE=B0=E0=AF=8D 05, 2023] Stefan Kangas wrote: > tags 60639 wontfix > close 60639 > thanks > > Xie Shynur writes: > >> In the section 2.1 "Printed Representation and Read Syntax" >> (https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Printed-Repre= sentation.html), >> word "hash notation" is used to refer to the symbol "#". >> But it may well confuse non-native English speakers, because the "hash" = is also associated with "hash function". >> >> A better name for "#" is "number sign". > > I don't think "number sign" is very clear, and to be honest I think > our target audience should have to learn that "#" is called a hash. FWIW, we never use "#" before numbers, we simply write "No." so "number sign" is an alien term. People here call "#" hash or hashtag. > So we won't be making this change. Sorry. > > Closing this as wontfix. From unknown Sun Aug 10 00:25:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#60639: Improvement to the Wording of GNU Emacs Lisp Reference Manual Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2023 11:53:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 60639 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Stefan Kangas Cc: one.last.kiss@outlook.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, 60639@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 60639-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B60639.169400114917339 (code B ref 60639); Wed, 06 Sep 2023 11:53:01 +0000 Received: (at 60639) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2023 11:52:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33217 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qdr5A-0004Va-N5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 07:52:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57884) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qdr57-0004VK-Cg for 60639@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 07:52:26 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qdr50-0003yz-6V; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 07:52:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=toaUxmTw/LekWfGU17jZIbsh1f3JWriBrt2RJ8NXxaE=; b=aYe6DvndzhMm 5Wzdp/0evZsuoOCy9kY5jE9m42ofAhnY61oEEMPtOfqByZR8moSwHahoxNS51UlvG/J3KecnGvAPZ IUDh7aIs+MGZ07XF8DjQtpPVdeuKTOq95t5yvkj6O7H86+JiKXLKixvAEL7FepFFg9cpUzPI9ED2y SWvzLAMuQK5SmJD5/eDGuHHtNa6foSdjTOBcocYdNIOthBK8hLx42oH2MYLvvUioGsPwhXNYzIwW+ ly/7DAFoIfqSlqzhNBzDQ/GGP/Khso1/ahUM+g/qaZIItAuAObF6YioBFgTogBKJVmzc7cV9EYb6K 2/ZmIJWv30LjTmmTlDV6cQ==; Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2023 14:52:02 +0300 Message-Id: <83fs3r34f1.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Tue, 5 Sep 2023 18:46:08 -0700) References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: "60639@debbugs.gnu.org" <60639@debbugs.gnu.org> > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2023 18:46:08 -0700 > > reopen 60639 > thanks > > Drew Adams writes: > > > A simple sentence such as this in Wikipedia can > > make things clear: > > > > "The symbol # is known variously in > > English-speaking regions as the number sign,[1] > > hash,[2] or pound sign.[3]" > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_sign > > Fair enough. > > The patch actually just adds it as an alternative, so in that sense it's > already okay. If there are no objections, I think we could install this > patch, then. Let's see if there are any other opinions first though. I don't mind installing it, but IMO its wording needs some improvement. Here's what I suggest to install: In most cases, an object's printed representation is also a read syntax for the object. However, some types have no read syntax, since it does not make sense to enter objects of these types as constants in a Lisp program. These objects are printed in @dfn{hash notation}, which consists of the characters @samp{#<}, a descriptive string (typically the type name followed by the name of the object), and a closing @samp{>}. (This is called ``hash notation'' because it begins with the @samp{#} character, known as ``hash'' or ``number sign''). For example: The main point here is that "hash notation" is NOT what's known as "number sign"; rather, the # character itself is known as "number sign". From unknown Sun Aug 10 00:25:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#60639: Improvement to the Wording of GNU Emacs Lisp Reference Manual Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2023 11:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 60639 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: one.last.kiss@outlook.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, 60639@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 60639-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B60639.169400139117727 (code B ref 60639); Wed, 06 Sep 2023 11:57:01 +0000 Received: (at 60639) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2023 11:56:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33225 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qdr94-0004br-ME for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 07:56:30 -0400 Received: from mail-lf1-x134.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::134]:45402) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qdr90-0004bX-CC for 60639@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 07:56:29 -0400 Received: by mail-lf1-x134.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-501cc617a27so541431e87.3 for <60639@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 04:56:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1694001379; x=1694606179; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=sUgF9pzgdyTXL0bp6+fmO1krMjgRMnQ+G6Ih1JlOx6o=; b=BSrnCby6s1xDuD1XpCc/DaNcwX5bg5PBV0lpx/ixOqxqxVyCvIdtnA7HfL2dNMngtv yI1MN8pPBudJJcHdLtA8vKDNa3OUdPoNtgqI1+AYrKwi31O+tv6lMhQ4qgYPAPRRzeEt cDB6uYKWevVlpEyFC7Yy6cQwkQ9BRKJpbAoVc2sngtgXwQHGjmavFRsOS1YjNPLd4Jfl tz9QxoTbeXoSF266vpDsGsgRA5R6e9AqQpZCparVa+tjdy59VOO8SnTk6YWcG+0wCny7 1eJU3UubNnqQ0mn4Nz4lYYQMVaIXLfWmNf97MiXBZEMaPPXpFyBIV9il+bHAGoLgbeC3 VbqQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1694001379; x=1694606179; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=sUgF9pzgdyTXL0bp6+fmO1krMjgRMnQ+G6Ih1JlOx6o=; b=HhLJBsVkt2+ltfSTWp+aoAc+lNfD4hybJPV44wvQ/RkvB8cwXi4IK+3Kp8kXDN545Z K8Ci8tlBxhjFuANTNZuvCt20/+l2Xbv+LY9XJ+VbO/sY02YCak7UpiAWPspmiIGVMIEr G8q0Bb9vIxVpMSc5KvNR0v4DTwnDvyuBm2bXIzUXRTIQqznQmZJkRO2MhpiHsw7vHjKZ LWc9zTaToi+gRq8VSexgggwoSatZbqsmvulpJyNtjFWjNXhNkZa44FKWpL67R1wwuC4T 7jyNSyUThEummCEjvBzVjm5iKK7bnB3oOVwgJ3WaJyJjGClYY/cVY/19Fb4kKJw6scbe QpNA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzEI1htVit9aN/2caXUcorbgdXV4rzqpiTtqiqUVH3xJldpVaw1 w5bnq4jtA9Q2b7/jdi2A4Rm9my9O/hOLaRwjnqI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFxaYe6kdkrdMec7PuW85tfpjD/wBlvlHvpXjilAByy4xrFoy03/jmgr/2h0FE7GXVLqhObu2brpd5Zz885BCw= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:3254:b0:500:a694:46f with SMTP id c20-20020a056512325400b00500a694046fmr2079063lfr.19.1694001379031; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 04:56:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 6 Sep 2023 04:56:18 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <83fs3r34f1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83fs3r34f1.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2023 04:56:18 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > I don't mind installing it, but IMO its wording needs some > improvement. Here's what I suggest to install: > > In most cases, an object's printed representation is also a read > syntax for the object. However, some types have no read syntax, since > it does not make sense to enter objects of these types as constants in > a Lisp program. These objects are printed in @dfn{hash notation}, > which consists of the characters @samp{#<}, a descriptive string > (typically the type name followed by the name of the object), and a > closing @samp{>}. (This is called ``hash notation'' because it > begins with the @samp{#} character, known as ``hash'' or ``number > sign''). For example: Looks good to me. From unknown Sun Aug 10 00:25:44 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Xie Shynur Subject: bug#60639: closed (Re: bug#60639: Improvement to the Wording of GNU Emacs Lisp Reference Manual) Message-ID: References: <83wmx31n5c.fsf@gnu.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 60639 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs X-Gnu-PR-Keywords: wontfix Reply-To: 60639@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2023 12:51:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1694004662-1522-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1694004662-1522-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #60639: Improvement to the Wording of GNU Emacs Lisp Reference Manual which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 60639@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 60639: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D60639 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1694004662-1522-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 60639-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2023 12:50:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33389 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qdrza-0000O8-JU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 08:50:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34522) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qdrzZ-0000Nt-7z for 60639-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 08:50:45 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qdrzS-0008T2-KJ; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 08:50:38 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=OVWty9rpGK6s6KKJIfXjecOwhbYnJKnhAvNHtzLx344=; b=TpW+GSsoiDs/ elogBQFoJxtbnlArg397SAG0HvuCn7283nk6r/hrg5sUFf6XCa7qAGoHJlP1R60cV7qhb1ODToFZ8 UK7M1/Bed5+sTB4b4gMvwWzDiRqgvILLOr81L8PtbwP4NoQa8bQJZ08/UicNjyDPS1thTsQB6vlZJ Gpn0e2jbU//b6TP2swTaUJESCzDvkaPN1SU4+to1W+elH21vzjiR2oGQV58WlwZMAnYpxEUtCt5hk flakrg7k39q01Bq2UcUxwN1wzONzU3otk82ceWrXXsaIxUnkkvqRBYdKGUDU7+fHHSiRFvMJk5CeF MAnh4/JqAuf4JTmcvBNYKA==; Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2023 15:50:23 +0300 Message-Id: <83wmx31n5c.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Wed, 6 Sep 2023 04:56:18 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#60639: Improvement to the Wording of GNU Emacs Lisp Reference Manual References: <83fs3r34f1.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60639-done Cc: 60639-done@debbugs.gnu.org, one.last.kiss@outlook.com, drew.adams@oracle.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2023 04:56:18 -0700 > Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, one.last.kiss@outlook.com, 60639@debbugs.gnu.org > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I don't mind installing it, but IMO its wording needs some > > improvement. Here's what I suggest to install: > > > > In most cases, an object's printed representation is also a read > > syntax for the object. However, some types have no read syntax, since > > it does not make sense to enter objects of these types as constants in > > a Lisp program. These objects are printed in @dfn{hash notation}, > > which consists of the characters @samp{#<}, a descriptive string > > (typically the type name followed by the name of the object), and a > > closing @samp{>}. (This is called ``hash notation'' because it > > begins with the @samp{#} character, known as ``hash'' or ``number > > sign''). For example: > > Looks good to me. 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