From unknown Sun Aug 10 07:32:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#60249: 29.0.60; help-quit is broken Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 08:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 60249 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 60249@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.167169612315371 (code B ref -1); Thu, 22 Dec 2022 08:03:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Dec 2022 08:02:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56821 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p8GWg-0003zr-TC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 03:02:03 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:55152) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p8GWd-0003zU-Sb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 03:02:01 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p8GWd-00010r-Iy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 03:01:59 -0500 Received: from relay11.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.231]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p8GWb-00047e-QB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 03:01:59 -0500 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 421BA100006 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 08:01:52 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov Organization: LINKOV.NET Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 09:56:20 +0200 Message-ID: <864jtnub11.fsf_-_@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.178.231; envelope-from=juri@linkov.net; helo=relay11.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) In addition to the below problems mentioned in bug#60101, the problem occurs in other places too, for example, opening a package from the package list displays such messages: Type M-x help-quit to restore previous buffer. Type M-x help-quit to restore previous buffer, C-v to scroll help. > I tried to reproduce this problem, and typed 'C-h C-h' that showed: > > Other Help Commands > > C-e Extending Emacs with external packages > p Search for Emacs packages (see also M-x list-packages) > P Describe a specific Emacs package > > t Start the Emacs tutorial > M-x help-quick-or-quit Display the quick help buffer. > e Show recent messages (from echo area) > l Show last 300 input keystrokes (lossage) > . Show local help at point > > I wonder if typing the suggested 'M-x help-quick-or-quit' > is really a quick way to get help? > > Then I typed 'M-x help-quick-or-quit RET' but it doesn't exist > with "[No match]". > > Then after 'C-h C-h' I tried to type 'q' (that means 'quick') > but it closed the Help window. > > Finally, I opened the source code and found the command > 'M-x cheat-sheet RET' that displayed the Help buffer. > > But there is 'undo' displayed as bound to 'C-x u', not to other keys. It's not clear whether the name intended to be help-quick-or-quit or help-quit-or-quick? From unknown Sun Aug 10 07:32:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#60249: 29.0.60; help-quit is broken Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2022 18:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 60249 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 60249@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: Philip Kaludercic Received: via spool by 60249-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B60249.16719919381429 (code B ref 60249); Sun, 25 Dec 2022 18:13:01 +0000 Received: (at 60249) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Dec 2022 18:12:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50148 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p9VTt-0000Mz-PJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Dec 2022 13:12:17 -0500 Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.194]:62735) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p9VTr-0000Mb-Bf for 60249@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Dec 2022 13:12:16 -0500 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B521040002; Sun, 25 Dec 2022 18:12:05 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov In-Reply-To: <864jtnub11.fsf_-_@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Thu, 22 Dec 2022 09:56:20 +0200") Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <864jtnub11.fsf_-_@mail.linkov.net> Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2022 20:10:32 +0200 Message-ID: <86y1qv2w2v.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) [Cc'ing Philip] > In addition to the below problems mentioned in bug#60101, > the problem occurs in other places too, for example, opening > a package from the package list displays such messages: > > Type M-x help-quit to restore previous buffer. Probably the only way to fix this is to rebind quick-help to the 'q' key with a modifier, e.g. 'C-h C-q' or 'C-h Q'. From unknown Sun Aug 10 07:32:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#60249: 29.0.60; help-quit is broken Resent-From: Philip Kaludercic Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2022 00:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 60249 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Juri Linkov Cc: 60249@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 60249-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B60249.16720128535611 (code B ref 60249); Mon, 26 Dec 2022 00:01:02 +0000 Received: (at 60249) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Dec 2022 00:00:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50375 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p9avF-0001SR-CV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Dec 2022 19:00:53 -0500 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:34127) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p9avD-0001SB-01 for 60249@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Dec 2022 19:00:51 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04E1F2400A2 for <60249@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 26 Dec 2022 01:00:44 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1672012845; bh=IMk50QDbdz8vXB/YaAKFsjwug+FxP49/L+ZKg8uqoN4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=lHctNI2VSCdYU0N43vd52bJ3AyXGANjTmPh129MptJWgrRF39LXYoTXPReeESIZAq 0v66ekfDf8OKejFX8CwC+X1HIXh6oR48qEe6UyxYGbCON9eKRtB9wj8uzyg9qz2Gdj sdv9qkdUACS8u10mcBY2NtCYIAYr8rNVrBLQhwUmk1BxX4SJUDR8yolGaOBAhnpIO4 +JFcD1XJNA4Odkip7kqb8p4Ycpc+HMx8vo7mWobDstkYtqEEtCLZGDPSCwA39AABtm oGNvqoLTQJG6fucy40xWl+409Bd9hsZXLWahP5RXxIyz9qdydB07XRzphVupMtcUsM Gxu2QhCPHhBkQ== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4NgHx831xTz9rxF; Mon, 26 Dec 2022 01:00:43 +0100 (CET) From: Philip Kaludercic In-Reply-To: <86y1qv2w2v.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Sun, 25 Dec 2022 20:10:32 +0200") References: <864jtnub11.fsf_-_@mail.linkov.net> <86y1qv2w2v.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2022 00:00:48 +0000 Message-ID: <87lemvm3tb.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Juri Linkov writes: > [Cc'ing Philip] > >> In addition to the below problems mentioned in bug#60101, >> the problem occurs in other places too, for example, opening >> a package from the package list displays such messages: >> >> Type M-x help-quit to restore previous buffer. > > Probably the only way to fix this is to rebind quick-help > to the 'q' key with a modifier, e.g. 'C-h C-q' or 'C-h Q'. I think C-h C-q would be just as good of a binding. From unknown Sun Aug 10 07:32:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#60249: 29.0.60; help-quit is broken Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2022 18:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 60249 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Philip Kaludercic Cc: 60249@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 60249-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B60249.167225349931765 (code B ref 60249); Wed, 28 Dec 2022 18:52:02 +0000 Received: (at 60249) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Dec 2022 18:51:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58733 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pAbWd-0008GH-8k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2022 13:51:39 -0500 Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]:47101) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pAbWW-0008Fq-OO; Wed, 28 Dec 2022 13:51:36 -0500 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7C2041C0004; Wed, 28 Dec 2022 18:51:24 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov In-Reply-To: <87lemvm3tb.fsf@posteo.net> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Mon, 26 Dec 2022 00:00:48 +0000") Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <864jtnub11.fsf_-_@mail.linkov.net> <86y1qv2w2v.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87lemvm3tb.fsf@posteo.net> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2022 20:50:30 +0200 Message-ID: <86a637nz0p.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) close 60249 29.0.60 thanks >>> In addition to the below problems mentioned in bug#60101, >>> the problem occurs in other places too, for example, opening >>> a package from the package list displays such messages: >>> >>> Type M-x help-quit to restore previous buffer. >> >> Probably the only way to fix this is to rebind quick-help >> to the 'q' key with a modifier, e.g. 'C-h C-q' or 'C-h Q'. > > I think C-h C-q would be just as good of a binding. Ok, now rebound to C-h C-q. So all problems are fixed.