From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 21 00:20:58 2022 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Dec 2022 05:20:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49412 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p7rXE-0001a3-Le for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 00:20:58 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:34268) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p7rXA-0001Zv-Ng for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 00:20:54 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p7rXA-0006iJ-J2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 00:20:52 -0500 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p7rX7-0006e4-1Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 00:20:52 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.6.105]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000056277.0000000063A2978F.00005707; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 22:20:15 -0700 Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 08:20:08 +0300 Message-ID: <709e6a8fd515d54bca5aa44a3891d0e9.support1@rcdrun.com> From: Jean Louis To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 30.0.50; Dired buffer not updating sometimes Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=support1@rcdrun.com; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_SBL=0.141, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Here is what happens sometimes: https://gnu.support/images/tmp/2022-12-21/2022-12-21-08:09:15.ogv - Using d to delete in Dired, also sometimes does not update the Dired buffer - Using b byte compile does what is shown on video Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.6 RCVD_IN_SBL RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus SBL [197.239.6.105 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [209.51.188.17 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [209.51.188.17 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 0.2 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 0.9 SPF_FAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (fail) [SPF failed: Please see http://www.openspf.org/Why?s=mfrom; id=support1%40rcdrun.com; ip=209.51.188.17; r=debbugs.gnu.org] X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) Here is what happens sometimes: https://gnu.support/images/tmp/2022-12-21/2022-12-21-08:09:15.ogv - Using d to delete in Dired, also sometimes does not update the Dired buffer - Using b byte compile does what is shown on video - killing the non-updating Dired buffer and opening new one in the same directory solves the problem - I cannot reproduce with emacs -Q - what I know this is happening for long time, more than a year - I guess that problem lies somewhere in refresh function being missed to be executed for some reason - as additional possible info, my computer "sleeps" sometimes In GNU Emacs 30.0.50 (build 4, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo version 1.17.6, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2022-12-17 built on protected.rcdrun.com Repository revision: 6a390fd42ec4ef97d637899fc93f34ea65639e3c Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101004 System Description: Parabola GNU/Linux-libre Configured using: 'configure --with-x-toolkit=lucid --with-mailutils --with-tree-sitter' Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP X11 XAW3D XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM LUCID ZLIB Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=exwm-xim locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Dired by name Minor modes in effect: TeX-PDF-mode: t dired-launch-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t hyperbole-mode: t server-mode: t 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Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 21 07:38:17 2022 Received: (at 60233) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Dec 2022 12:38:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51600 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p7yMT-0000jg-Ge for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 07:38:17 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58552) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p7yMQ-0000jZ-PG for 60233@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 07:38:15 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p7yMH-0007gO-Lo; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 07:38:09 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=TDsnbBsC2LpyPXuS3wvit97wsgLwQgQSzwMIThNRmtQ=; b=LiDJhuBpcKkg 59jw5Xw5+jXEP/Nrqyqqfy0DQPgQgjHt5DOpVmVU5jXp3EepThw37JgPXMed48sJ6ZgFiVcFHFLfR cRi0SmZiwDxHwRZfoGrCOIctAGGB8VX00n2TBy/M1J1EoN6Kb+q8jANoM0AN+EZaj83CsEeEeROie RCRM843OEt3+J77p3GjMHFRNptLhJQlfJxKz6yq5cCRLSe1r/k/cDEqByfX2i2KXiLMtbXwlMJnop M6o1yiUjevvjkfHRpBdKwCA07eDYCsX6tWrApW0Z+F45CnmiPqNB3N1HWmGFCY2mOrEvq7FQVmjhV 9jmDV1rLOIt3NYq0iXF2Og==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p7yMG-00072K-8g; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 07:38:05 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 14:38:00 +0200 Message-Id: <83a63haq53.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Jean Louis In-Reply-To: <709e6a8fd515d54bca5aa44a3891d0e9.support1@rcdrun.com> (message from Jean Louis on Wed, 21 Dec 2022 08:20:08 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#60233: 30.0.50; Dired buffer not updating sometimes References: <709e6a8fd515d54bca5aa44a3891d0e9.support1@rcdrun.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60233 Cc: 60233@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 08:20:08 +0300 > From: Jean Louis > > > Here is what happens sometimes: > https://gnu.support/images/tmp/2022-12-21/2022-12-21-08:09:15.ogv I cannot watch this. Would you please back up any images with textual descriptions of what do you do and what happens? > - Using d to delete in Dired, also sometimes does not update the Dired > buffer We'd need a reproducible recipe to investigate. > - Using b byte compile does what is shown on video Which is what? > - killing the non-updating Dired buffer and opening new one in the > same directory solves the problem > > - I cannot reproduce with emacs -Q > > - what I know this is happening for long time, more than a year Some problems with updates to Dired buffers when files or directories are deleted were fixed about 3 months ago. So if these problems happen for much longer, either they are different problems, or you have stale dired*.el files lurking somewhere that Emacs picks up. > - I guess that problem lies somewhere in refresh function being missed > to be executed for some reason > > - as additional possible info, my computer "sleeps" sometimes Thanks, but if this is all the information you can provide, I don't see how we could investigate something that happens only sometimes and only in your configuration. I can only hope someone else will report the missing details. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 21 13:55:39 2022 Received: (at 60233) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Dec 2022 18:55:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53396 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p84Ff-0001Co-HA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 13:55:39 -0500 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:49521) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p84Fd-0001CP-ER for 60233@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 13:55:38 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.15.84]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000CBB80.0000000063A356AB.00002A89; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 11:55:38 -0700 Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 21:54:24 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#60233: 30.0.50; Dired buffer not updating sometimes Message-ID: References: <709e6a8fd515d54bca5aa44a3891d0e9.support1@rcdrun.com> <83a63haq53.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83a63haq53.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9+54 (af2080d) (2022-11-21) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60233 Cc: 60233@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) * Eli Zaretskii [2022-12-21 15:38]: > > Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 08:20:08 +0300 > > From: Jean Louis > > > > > > Here is what happens sometimes: > > https://gnu.support/images/tmp/2022-12-21/2022-12-21-08:09:15.ogv > > I cannot watch this. Would you please back up any images with textual > descriptions of what do you do and what happens? It creates new file, it does insert the file in Dired buffer, but the file is double to previous one. It starts appearing as following: -rw-r--r-- 1 22K Dec 21 09:54 rcd-org-export.el -rw-r--r-- 1 22K Dec 21 21:50 rcd-org-export.elc -rw-r--r-- 1 22K Dec 21 21:50 rcd-org-export.elc -rw-r--r-- 1 22K Dec 21 21:50 rcd-org-export.elc -rw-r--r-- 1 22K Dec 21 21:50 rcd-org-export.elc > > > - Using d to delete in Dired, also sometimes does not update the Dired > > buffer > > We'd need a reproducible recipe to investigate. That is problem, I can't know when and why is that happening. It is probably not related to byte compile. I have observed this for a year or longer. > Some problems with updates to Dired buffers when files or directories > are deleted were fixed about 3 months ago. So if these problems > happen for much longer, either they are different problems, or you > have stale dired*.el files lurking somewhere that Emacs picks up. I use latest from git. I also use dired-x and I use switches: -gohl --group-directories-first Tell me directions on how to find what is happening the next time it happens. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 21 15:15:34 2022 Received: (at 60233) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Dec 2022 20:15:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53737 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p85V0-000239-86 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 15:15:34 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52428) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p85Uy-00022z-F8 for 60233@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 15:15:33 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p85Uq-0001bX-CX; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 15:15:24 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=AlygwJ7UYOsVtf0GJFWQayvzR2hw2/6Y186Du2l7HJ4=; b=E38wmeLzvCkh ngbC79pN7A3fP4vwA56cmOOMNacNsmBIANvLmvFuo/icdUT3zCYbNaLdpS1nVggQUPaLZMixrbCxD dPxygE7vASMvgKrCBs9jTh+GjMgmVNuwzplMpktyBGvkPqR5VR1xt3PAKRHPWiLj5E6KkEuJpZIc/ cmHo9srd05Qc1zfAHJuGP3Artoir7nM/T7II8Dvl0T8SRLW4RaMvDzMn6bYufXt5CEV9J5rgKwuhX lccqWcbqhjiG4lkvS3aJcfWvzgcq1iqF7QzxzLxvTPHN57CHo9njGholYFbknSYPvV6MSXWTms/gC gIa0NQesZ2Z3g+XmUjdBUQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p85Up-0001kf-KJ; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 15:15:23 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 22:15:12 +0200 Message-Id: <83edssa4z3.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Jean Louis In-Reply-To: (message from Jean Louis on Wed, 21 Dec 2022 21:54:24 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#60233: 30.0.50; Dired buffer not updating sometimes References: <709e6a8fd515d54bca5aa44a3891d0e9.support1@rcdrun.com> <83a63haq53.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60233 Cc: 60233@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 21:54:24 +0300 > From: Jean Louis > Cc: 60233@debbugs.gnu.org > > It creates new file, it does insert the file in Dired buffer, but the > file is double to previous one. It starts appearing as following: > > -rw-r--r-- 1 22K Dec 21 09:54 rcd-org-export.el > -rw-r--r-- 1 22K Dec 21 21:50 rcd-org-export.elc > -rw-r--r-- 1 22K Dec 21 21:50 rcd-org-export.elc > -rw-r--r-- 1 22K Dec 21 21:50 rcd-org-export.elc > -rw-r--r-- 1 22K Dec 21 21:50 rcd-org-export.elc Just by pressing B? I cannot reproduce this here. Please tell how to reproduce in "emacs -Q". (Btw, byte-compile-file is not bound to b, it is bound to B, upper-case, at least by default.) What I see is that after the compilation finishes, Dired moves to the line of the .elc file just compiled, and the entry is refreshed. > I also use dired-x How? > and I use switches: > > -gohl --group-directories-first Tried that, still cannot reproduce. > Tell me directions on how to find what is happening the next time it > happens. Type "C-h l" and post everything that pops up in a buffer, I guess. I'm really in the dark here. You need to try to note what you were doing that is somewhat special in those cases. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 22 06:02:40 2022 Received: (at 60233) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Dec 2022 11:02:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57700 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p8JLU-00065V-4I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 06:02:40 -0500 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:41977) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p8JLS-00065P-BF for 60233@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 06:02:38 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.5.90]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000087CA4.0000000063A4394F.0000102C; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 04:02:38 -0700 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 10:18:59 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#60233: 30.0.50; Dired buffer not updating sometimes Message-ID: References: <709e6a8fd515d54bca5aa44a3891d0e9.support1@rcdrun.com> <83a63haq53.fsf@gnu.org> <83edssa4z3.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83edssa4z3.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9+54 (af2080d) (2022-11-21) X-Spam-Score: 3.7 (+++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: * Eli Zaretskii [2022-12-21 23:16]: > > Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 21:54:24 +0300 > > From: Jean Louis > > Cc: 60233@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > It creates new file, it does [...] Content analysis details: (2.7 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.6 RCVD_IN_SBL RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus SBL [197.239.5.90 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 1.1 DATE_IN_PAST_03_06 Date: is 3 to 6 hours before Received: date -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager * Eli Zaretskii [2022-12-21 23:16]: > > Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 21:54:24 +0300 > > From: Jean Louis > > Cc: 60233@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > It creates new file, it does insert the file in Dired buffer, but the > > file is double to previous one. It starts appearing as following: > > > > -rw-r--r-- 1 22K Dec 21 09:54 rcd-org-export.el > > -rw-r--r-- 1 22K Dec 21 21:50 rcd-org-export.elc > > -rw-r--r-- 1 22K Dec 21 21:50 rcd-org-export.elc > > -rw-r--r-- 1 22K Dec 21 21:50 rcd-org-export.elc > > -rw-r--r-- 1 22K Dec 21 21:50 rcd-org-export.elc > > Just by pressing B? I cannot reproduce this here. Please tell how to > reproduce in "emacs -Q". (Btw, byte-compile-file is not bound to b, > it is bound to B, upper-case, at least by default.) Yes, it was my mistake when writing bug report. > > I also use dired-x > > How? I just load that library every time, as I use it's functions. > Type "C-h l" and post everything that pops up in a buffer, I guess. > I'm really in the dark here. You need to try to note what you were > doing that is somewhat special in those cases. OK I am sure it will come again, then I will use C-h l and report back. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 22 16:48:47 2022 Received: (at 60233) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Dec 2022 21:48:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36342 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p8TQl-0006E7-5t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 16:48:47 -0500 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:41470) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p8TQh-0006E1-VN for 60233@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 16:48:45 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1671745723; bh=ON3HqMXdL7NDInrL2OUVrVSoIixa1VPiCMgFCFnIPsI=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=nkHAQeV52spj/8h+qJWkUl2wyHXZ3MXgSF6ypS8z13UjAZVUv3qQY7vaLS4vvlqSM +DMeJVXhnwxbYkVicPoCw+Pm0JVHjFMhWK3AnpD7tkL5ou9vmPdnajqW0UcfYXJeii zV8zu/5rwFyun1yo6LMd4Mjuzk+bXz2iO5Uy1hVtsfRUKWAigWjWtsX3xvk1FID1gp YO5h6yMOuHhhGdF8lqFeZyqn4t3fwZOtsn1gzbXT+PuiryZVuugF+68mzxDaM7QauI W4NfcoRomanxtAOtoMy2o3D088Q662v5w7PZEpxHjSc+aZkcY2w2u5Yvj3r6GOQ5IX 0gwM6b2UpPbPw== Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 21:48:42 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings To: Jean Louis Subject: Re: bug#60233: 30.0.50; Dired buffer not updating sometimes In-Reply-To: <709e6a8fd515d54bca5aa44a3891d0e9.support1@rcdrun.com> Message-ID: <86f81b9e45b67da0212f@heytings.org> References: <709e6a8fd515d54bca5aa44a3891d0e9.support1@rcdrun.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60233 Cc: 60233@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > > Here is what happens sometimes: > https://gnu.support/images/tmp/2022-12-21/2022-12-21-08:09:15.ogv > I see this on the modeline of your video: [[[[(Dired by name Launch Hypb WK)]]]] Unless you customized your modeline in a strange way, these four "[[[[" and "]]]]" mean that you're in recursive edit, in a recursive edit, in a recursive edit, in a recursive edit (yes, four times). Is that really what you want? (info "(emacs)Recursive Edit") says: "You could probably do all the rest of your editing inside the recursive edit, visiting files and all. But this could have surprising effects (such as stack overflow) from time to time. So remember to exit or abort the recursive edit when you no longer need it. In general, we try to minimize the use of recursive editing levels in GNU Emacs." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 22 23:55:37 2022 Received: (at 60233) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Dec 2022 04:55:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36567 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p8a5o-0002L9-Ea for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 23:55:36 -0500 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:56007) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p8a5l-0002L3-Uz for 60233@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 23:55:34 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:102.85.128.226]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000055EF4.0000000063A534C5.00006ADB; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 21:55:32 -0700 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2022 07:55:03 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#60233: 30.0.50; Dired buffer not updating sometimes Message-ID: References: <709e6a8fd515d54bca5aa44a3891d0e9.support1@rcdrun.com> <83a63haq53.fsf@gnu.org> <83edssa4z3.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83edssa4z3.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9+54 (af2080d) (2022-11-21) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60233 Cc: 60233@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) * Eli Zaretskii [2022-12-21 23:17]: > > and I use switches: > > > > -gohl --group-directories-first > > Tried that, still cannot reproduce. > > > Tell me directions on how to find what is happening the next time it > > happens. > > Type "C-h l" and post everything that pops up in a buffer, I guess. > I'm really in the dark here. You need to try to note what you were > doing that is somewhat special in those cases. I got now the buffer that does not refresh and I can inspect it if you provide me guidance. ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line p ;; dired-previous-line p ;; dired-previous-line p ;; dired-previous-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line n ;; dired-next-line p ;; dired-previous-line B ;; dired-do-byte-compile y ;; y-or-n-p-insert-y p ;; dired-previous-line B ;; dired-do-byte-compile y ;; y-or-n-p-insert-y p ;; dired-previous-line B ;; dired-do-byte-compile y ;; y-or-n-p-insert-y C-c l ;; rcd-async-last-buffers C-x l ;; count-lines-page C-x b ;; switch-to-buffer ;; minibuffer-complete-and-exit C-h l ;; view-lossage p ;; dired-previous-line B ;; dired-do-byte-compile y ;; y-or-n-p-insert-y C-h l ;; view-lossage C-1 ;; digit-argument 0 ;; digit-argument 0 ;; digit-argument C-h l ;; view-lossage p ;; dired-previous-line B ;; dired-do-byte-compile y ;; y-or-n-p-insert-y C-h l ;; view-lossage C-p ;; dired-previous-line C-p ;; dired-previous-line C-p ;; dired-previous-line C-p ;; dired-previous-line C-p ;; dired-previous-line C-p ;; dired-previous-line C-p ;; dired-previous-line C-p ;; dired-previous-line C-p ;; dired-previous-line C-p ;; dired-previous-line C-p ;; dired-previous-line C-p ;; dired-previous-line C-p ;; dired-previous-line C-p ;; dired-previous-line C-p ;; dired-previous-line C-p ;; dired-previous-line C-p ;; dired-previous-line C-n ;; dired-next-line C-n ;; dired-next-line C-n ;; dired-next-line C-n ;; dired-next-line C-n ;; dired-next-line C-n ;; dired-next-line C-n ;; dired-next-line C-n ;; dired-next-line C-n ;; dired-next-line C-n ;; dired-next-line C-n ;; dired-next-line C-n ;; dired-next-line C-n ;; dired-next-line C-n ;; dired-next-line C-n ;; dired-next-line C-n ;; dired-next-line C-n ;; dired-next-line C-n ;; dired-next-line C-n ;; dired-next-line C-n ;; dired-next-line p ;; dired-previous-line p ;; dired-previous-line p ;; dired-previous-line d ;; dired-flag-file-deletion d ;; dired-flag-file-deletion d ;; dired-flag-file-deletion d ;; dired-flag-file-deletion d ;; dired-flag-file-deletion x ;; dired-do-flagged-delete y ;; self-insert-command s ;; self-insert-command ;; delete-backward-char e ;; self-insert-command s ;; self-insert-command ;; exit-minibuffer C-h l ;; view-lossage C-x o ;; other-window C-x o ;; other-window g ;; revert-buffer p ;; dired-previous-line p ;; dired-previous-line p ;; dired-previous-line p ;; dired-previous-line p ;; dired-previous-line p ;; dired-previous-line p ;; dired-previous-line n ;; dired-next-line B ;; dired-do-byte-compile y ;; y-or-n-p-insert-y C-p ;; dired-previous-line B ;; dired-do-byte-compile y ;; y-or-n-p-insert-y C-h l ;; view-lossage [back] -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 23 00:23:36 2022 Received: (at 60233) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Dec 2022 05:23:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36610 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p8aWt-0002dM-OX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Dec 2022 00:23:36 -0500 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:33213) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p8aWr-0002dB-Cu for 60233@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Dec 2022 00:23:34 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:102.85.128.226]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000055DA4.0000000063A53B54.00006D55; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 22:23:32 -0700 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2022 08:03:16 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Gregory Heytings Subject: Re: bug#60233: 30.0.50; Dired buffer not updating sometimes Message-ID: References: <709e6a8fd515d54bca5aa44a3891d0e9.support1@rcdrun.com> <86f81b9e45b67da0212f@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86f81b9e45b67da0212f@heytings.org> User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9+54 (af2080d) (2022-11-21) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60233 Cc: 60233@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) * Gregory Heytings [2022-12-23 00:48]: > > Here is what happens sometimes: > > https://gnu.support/images/tmp/2022-12-21/2022-12-21-08:09:15.ogv > > > > I see this on the modeline of your video: > > [[[[(Dired by name Launch Hypb WK)]]]] Thanks, you notices something I did not notice. I can't know why and how that came in the modeline. > Unless you customized your modeline in a strange way, these four "[[[[" and > "]]]]" mean that you're in recursive edit, in a recursive edit, in a > recursive edit, in a recursive edit (yes, four times). Is that really what > you want? I invoke recursive edits all the time, though not related to Dired buffer. > (info "(emacs)Recursive Edit") says: "You could probably do all the rest of > your editing inside the recursive edit, visiting files and all. But this > could have surprising effects (such as stack overflow) from time to time. > So remember to exit or abort the recursive edit when you no longer need it. > In general, we try to minimize the use of recursive editing levels in GNU > Emacs." That is definitely some other bug that I will report. I do use recursive edit, but I see now that after closing recursive edit those square brackets do not close. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 23 00:23:37 2022 Received: (at 60233) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Dec 2022 05:23:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36612 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p8aWv-0002dT-4u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Dec 2022 00:23:37 -0500 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:33213) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p8aWt-0002dB-21 for 60233@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Dec 2022 00:23:35 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:102.85.128.226]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000055EF6.0000000063A53B58.00006D62; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 22:23:36 -0700 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2022 08:23:10 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#60233: 30.0.50; Dired buffer not updating sometimes Message-ID: References: <709e6a8fd515d54bca5aa44a3891d0e9.support1@rcdrun.com> <83a63haq53.fsf@gnu.org> <83edssa4z3.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9+54 (af2080d) (2022-11-21) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60233 Cc: 60233@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hello Eli, Now I can reproduce the bug "why Dired buffer does not update" with `emacs -Q'. The new video for those who can see it is here: https://gnu.support/images/tmp/2022-12-23/2022-12-23-07:56:46.ogv Conditions that Dired buffer will not update is related to default directory being changed, being something else than what is the Dired buffer. To reproduce it in `emacs -Q' you please do following: - go into any Dired buffer; - M-x cd RET and change default directory to something else than Dired buffer - key B will inject new lines of a byte-compiled file without refreshing, delete by moving to Trash will delete without refreshing the Dired buffer. I can only assume that variable `default-directory' shall remain local to Dired buffer even if user invokes `M-x cd' or programmatically `cd'. And I never invoke `M-x cd' in Dired buffers, but I may invoke it in other functions such as below: (defun cf-send-sms (id) "Sends the SMS by using default SMS function" (cd (getenv "HOME")) And the reason to `cd' to HOME directory is to escape programs to try external commands within Tramp directories. I will try using `executable-find' for external programs, but again I think that when my functions get Tramp directory as default directory then they don't find either executables or directories, that is why I am changing to $HOME. For Dired updating, I think that M-x cd shall not change the default-directory for Dired buffer -- and again -- I am not using it interactively but in functions. Now I can't remember how I invoked a function that uses `cd' but I can focus on it next time. Maybe I just launched some of functions. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. 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Content preview: Jean Louis writes: > Hello Eli, Hi Jean, Content analysis details: (1.9 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [212.227.15.18 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 3.6 RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus SBL-CSS [185.89.37.45 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [212.227.15.18 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (michael.albinus[at]gmx.de) 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager Jean Louis writes: > Hello Eli, Hi Jean, > Now I can reproduce the bug "why Dired buffer does not update" with > `emacs -Q'. > > The new video for those who can see it is here: > https://gnu.support/images/tmp/2022-12-23/2022-12-23-07:56:46.ogv > > Conditions that Dired buffer will not update is related to default > directory being changed, being something else than what is the Dired > buffer. > > To reproduce it in `emacs -Q' you please do following: > > - go into any Dired buffer; > > - M-x cd RET and change default directory to something else than Dired > buffer > > - key B will inject new lines of a byte-compiled file without > refreshing, delete by moving to Trash will delete without refreshing > the Dired buffer. > > I can only assume that variable `default-directory' shall remain local > to Dired buffer even if user invokes `M-x cd' or programmatically `cd'. > > And I never invoke `M-x cd' in Dired buffers, but I may invoke it in > other functions such as below: > > (defun cf-send-sms (id) > "Sends the SMS by using default SMS function" > (cd (getenv "HOME")) > > And the reason to `cd' to HOME directory is to escape programs to try > external commands within Tramp directories. I will try using > `executable-find' for external programs, but again I think that when > my functions get Tramp directory as default directory then they don't > find either executables or directories, that is why I am changing to > $HOME. You're better with =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (defun cf-send-sms (id) "Sends the SMS by using default SMS function" (let ((default-directory (getenv "HOME"))) ...) =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > Jean Best regards, Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 23 03:30:41 2022 Received: (at 60233) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Dec 2022 08:30:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36822 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p8dRx-0004ft-HV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Dec 2022 03:30:41 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54064) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p8dRw-0004fn-3z for 60233@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Dec 2022 03:30:40 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p8dRq-0006M6-EA; Fri, 23 Dec 2022 03:30:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=iPh8GW5du2iB1nK+psqOMgh9ko5rEDbUPkE8Y3nlud4=; b=Ffr62b+utbAj 1Qy7XFKnO2eFAJoDGyx4uuyNGZ1Xx+2y3uem03N/fY7I32qPKBpKOqAuCHNuLaHqmy/ikLTFCEjyF UKGXM+msH86xVsGlzMTwyNa3dXcFSKvTLeGUzT4vPLCdgcx1NGE7Y7l1v4JWhlgteAaQSKL1DptpZ 5ZquI7AnI0L52E1C1Cw8bazjxtrxznTRRmsUMe2xwTl6Y3xMa9B7iYWV4BRursihBc1YUDcJMAqfu eGIBet1loPIJ/oGYPZ937Y2ZEkXI6lNrhc1DUpL9RXJP1kRSnYfNWqDmOcK2Z+AOZx+PTccEcG5Or c+wUEnnPrSh3d7/ZgL/3rQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p8dRp-0004dy-To; Fri, 23 Dec 2022 03:30:34 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2022 10:30:21 +0200 Message-Id: <8335968qua.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Jean Louis In-Reply-To: (message from Jean Louis on Fri, 23 Dec 2022 08:03:16 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#60233: 30.0.50; Dired buffer not updating sometimes References: <709e6a8fd515d54bca5aa44a3891d0e9.support1@rcdrun.com> <86f81b9e45b67da0212f@heytings.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60233 Cc: 60233@debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@heytings.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 60233@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2022 08:03:16 +0300 > From: Jean Louis > > * Gregory Heytings [2022-12-23 00:48]: > > > Here is what happens sometimes: > > > https://gnu.support/images/tmp/2022-12-21/2022-12-21-08:09:15.ogv > > > > > > > I see this on the modeline of your video: > > > > [[[[(Dired by name Launch Hypb WK)]]]] > > Thanks, you notices something I did not notice. I can't know why and > how that came in the modeline. > > > Unless you customized your modeline in a strange way, these four "[[[[" and > > "]]]]" mean that you're in recursive edit, in a recursive edit, in a > > recursive edit, in a recursive edit (yes, four times). Is that really what > > you want? > > I invoke recursive edits all the time, though not related to Dired buffer. It's also possible that you get errors, which pop up the debugger and enter recursive-edit, and you don't abort recursive-edit with C-] after that. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 23 04:03:04 2022 Received: (at 60233) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Dec 2022 09:03:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36849 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p8dxI-0007KM-5t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Dec 2022 04:03:04 -0500 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:41485) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p8dxF-0007Jx-QP for 60233@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Dec 2022 04:03:02 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:102.85.128.226]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000055D73.0000000063A56EC5.00007F75; Fri, 23 Dec 2022 02:03:00 -0700 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2022 11:46:39 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Michael Albinus Subject: Re: bug#60233: 30.0.50; Dired buffer not updating sometimes Message-ID: References: <709e6a8fd515d54bca5aa44a3891d0e9.support1@rcdrun.com> <83a63haq53.fsf@gnu.org> <83edssa4z3.fsf@gnu.org> <87lemyilyf.fsf@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87lemyilyf.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9+54 (af2080d) (2022-11-21) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60233 Cc: 60233@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) * Michael Albinus [2022-12-23 11:06]: > You're better with > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > (defun cf-send-sms (id) > "Sends the SMS by using default SMS function" > (let ((default-directory (getenv "HOME"))) > ...) > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- I get it, I will use that. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 24 07:23:17 2022 Received: (at 60233) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Dec 2022 12:23:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42721 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p93Ya-0006Ia-RO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Dec 2022 07:23:17 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34262) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p93YZ-0006IO-A0 for 60233@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Dec 2022 07:23:15 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p93YT-00053F-MK; Sat, 24 Dec 2022 07:23:09 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=36tN788Q081yUM55poEYtboHrNeHfn9KGDZGLhjIpRc=; b=KlyLtvfuznds 0F2UYrjPrW1ooxpmBOkbI9L1MZMAH1fQRkJn0HuC5xRpcv4axv6YCB1UxIEepJ1+D7Lupvv4Avibq dyBpF5te3oFERO9QqdlzSo/EkGZ0SltX+pCWNuOL+kW54TftzhXl90G5t6bWAw4Nf3RIOmZN1Rxri +CV34BrWMFdhGuHCSRCDC4A7jgkg5x6fP8aG4iboiiJMiFiX9t2EXSH0Jdy9HI5b05CJqcoI/M0hc 01lC6+Ss+79JFo7wi9Y8XwFpKXzXRsjR9F2KvcScfwXEaoYnOGePjPyvFsUiOEL8jVrqytfhnaTBO BdtI9xzS+OZXzY8QKriIUA==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p93YS-0006Wt-QF; Sat, 24 Dec 2022 07:23:09 -0500 Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2022 14:23:07 +0200 Message-Id: <838rix56tw.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Jean Louis In-Reply-To: (message from Jean Louis on Fri, 23 Dec 2022 08:23:10 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#60233: 30.0.50; Dired buffer not updating sometimes References: <709e6a8fd515d54bca5aa44a3891d0e9.support1@rcdrun.com> <83a63haq53.fsf@gnu.org> <83edssa4z3.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60233 Cc: 60233@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2022 08:23:10 +0300 > From: Jean Louis > Cc: 60233@debbugs.gnu.org > > Conditions that Dired buffer will not update is related to default > directory being changed, being something else than what is the Dired > buffer. > > To reproduce it in `emacs -Q' you please do following: > > - go into any Dired buffer; > > - M-x cd RET and change default directory to something else than Dired > buffer > > - key B will inject new lines of a byte-compiled file without > refreshing, delete by moving to Trash will delete without refreshing > the Dired buffer. > > I can only assume that variable `default-directory' shall remain local > to Dired buffer even if user invokes `M-x cd' or programmatically `cd'. > > And I never invoke `M-x cd' in Dired buffers, but I may invoke it in > other functions such as below: > > (defun cf-send-sms (id) > "Sends the SMS by using default SMS function" > (cd (getenv "HOME")) > > And the reason to `cd' to HOME directory is to escape programs to try > external commands within Tramp directories. I will try using > `executable-find' for external programs, but again I think that when > my functions get Tramp directory as default directory then they don't > find either executables or directories, that is why I am changing to > $HOME. > > For Dired updating, I think that M-x cd shall not change the > default-directory for Dired buffer -- and again -- I am not using it > interactively but in functions. > > Now I can't remember how I invoked a function that uses `cd' but I can > focus on it next time. Maybe I just launched some of functions. Thanks. I think there's a misunderstanding here of what "M-x cd" does. Its _only_ effect is to change the default-directory of the current buffer. So: (1) doing this in a Dired buffer is shooting yourself in the foot; (2) if 'cd' is not allowed to change default-directory in Dired buffers, then it will have no effect, which sounds unjustified and unnecessary; (3) whatever you think you need "M-x cd" for in Dired buffers must be done in some other way I don't think I see any bug here. It's a cockpit error: you should not invoke "M-x cd" in Dired buffers if you want to keep updating them. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 24 11:35:58 2022 Received: (at 60233) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Dec 2022 16:35:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47014 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p97V8-0000gb-9c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Dec 2022 11:35:58 -0500 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:51603) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p97V5-0000gN-7c for 60233@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Dec 2022 11:35:56 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:102.85.172.116]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000055D7C.0000000063A72A6A.000032B5; Sat, 24 Dec 2022 09:35:53 -0700 Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2022 16:03:33 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#60233: 30.0.50; Dired buffer not updating sometimes Message-ID: References: <709e6a8fd515d54bca5aa44a3891d0e9.support1@rcdrun.com> <83a63haq53.fsf@gnu.org> <83edssa4z3.fsf@gnu.org> <838rix56tw.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <838rix56tw.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9+54 (af2080d) (2022-11-21) X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: * Eli Zaretskii [2022-12-24 15:23]: > Thanks. > > I think there's a misunderstanding here of what "M-x cd" does. Its > _only_ effect is to change the default-directory of the current > [...] Content analysis details: (1.1 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.1 DATE_IN_PAST_03_06 Date: is 3 to 6 hours before Received: date X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60233 Cc: 60233@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) * Eli Zaretskii [2022-12-24 15:23]: > Thanks. > > I think there's a misunderstanding here of what "M-x cd" does. Its > _only_ effect is to change the default-directory of the current > buffer. So: > > (1) doing this in a Dired buffer is shooting yourself in the foot; > (2) if 'cd' is not allowed to change default-directory in Dired > buffers, then it will have no effect, which sounds unjustified > and unnecessary; > (3) whatever you think you need "M-x cd" for in Dired buffers must > be done in some other way > > I don't think I see any bug here. It's a cockpit error: you should > not invoke "M-x cd" in Dired buffers if you want to keep updating > them. Alright. I have changed the program by Michael's advise. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 24 11:50:42 2022 Received: (at 60233-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Dec 2022 16:50:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47030 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p97jN-0001CJ-Us for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Dec 2022 11:50:42 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47916) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p97jM-0001C3-8g for 60233-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Dec 2022 11:50:40 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p97jG-0001IJ-CM; Sat, 24 Dec 2022 11:50:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=t2DfP/Zc1/1BSU0dKdOBp7QWmaGwQHgV86o32zWnT9o=; b=DLIvGB9G1FU9 V5bmXxd6ZYQBLzJIPVwvwOYsr+FzOXEaMGxYTizJOZeaxnV7pl8WcJKgK3qDiDyRG9AKiMVJ9I+6Z JzXgWKcArFAqserxd2k57WSYbvbWudWpdV6NHD6ZIYYjeLaAcUDqJEAlz5Fvr/Ht4jYsGtbPASrSi mz0YU94ySduqBfADz2aXoKO3/iuDWJqKBzEv91vijeGK1gD9ILMVbWsRzgy1X0D40bGhImV5frPOo tGUq17Bg7HeTn3SXA1gu0Xt4JyaICFj728mOZbR04ugn5fxxNr4Uz2Ns5L5b1bwTU267LJ4DY58AO 4UP0yzlWajCimOt/Rte3TQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p97jE-0000xL-On; Sat, 24 Dec 2022 11:50:34 -0500 Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2022 18:50:32 +0200 Message-Id: <83tu1k4ug7.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Jean Louis In-Reply-To: (message from Jean Louis on Sat, 24 Dec 2022 16:03:33 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#60233: 30.0.50; Dired buffer not updating sometimes References: <709e6a8fd515d54bca5aa44a3891d0e9.support1@rcdrun.com> <83a63haq53.fsf@gnu.org> <83edssa4z3.fsf@gnu.org> <838rix56tw.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60233-done Cc: 60233-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2022 16:03:33 +0300 > From: Jean Louis > Cc: 60233@debbugs.gnu.org > > * Eli Zaretskii [2022-12-24 15:23]: > > Thanks. > > > > I think there's a misunderstanding here of what "M-x cd" does. Its > > _only_ effect is to change the default-directory of the current > > buffer. So: > > > > (1) doing this in a Dired buffer is shooting yourself in the foot; > > (2) if 'cd' is not allowed to change default-directory in Dired > > buffers, then it will have no effect, which sounds unjustified > > and unnecessary; > > (3) whatever you think you need "M-x cd" for in Dired buffers must > > be done in some other way > > > > I don't think I see any bug here. It's a cockpit error: you should > > not invoke "M-x cd" in Dired buffers if you want to keep updating > > them. > > Alright. I have changed the program by Michael's advise. I'm therefore closing the bug. From unknown Sat Aug 16 18:38:59 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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