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Mon, 19 Dec 2022 21:59:29 +0000 Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2022 21:59:26 +0000 (UTC) From: Hin-Tak Leung To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Message-ID: <974722961.3073608.1671487166201@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: 28.1; Resource exhaustion with emacs 28's native compilation; need "-Q" for trampoline MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <974722961.3073608.1671487166201.ref@mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20982 YMailNodin Content-Length: 7301 Received-SPF: softfail client-ip=77.238.179.188; envelope-from=htl10@users.sourceforge.net; helo=sonic313-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -11 X-Spam_score: -1.2 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: htl10@users.sourceforge.net Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) --text follows this line-- Basically this is about resource exhaustion with emacs 28's native compilation, leading to crash if not caught. There is a missing "-Q" for building "emacs-int-comp-subr--trampoline..*...el". More details at: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2109745 Bug 2109745 - emacs-ess spawn multiple processes with ... --batch -l /tmp/emacs-async-comp-ess-custom-*.el and at https://github.com/emacs-ess/ESS/issues/1222 Resource exhaustion with emacs 28's native compilation. What happens seems to be this: emacs-ess have about 50+ files, which would be natively compiled on fedora's recent native-compile-enabled emacs. On fedora, they also auto-load emacs-ess mode via site-lisp. Now, "/tmp/emacs-int-comp-subr--trampoline-64656c6574652d63686172_delete_char_0-*.el" seems to be some kind of stub which needs to be natively compiled as a prerequisite for any native compilation at all, and it needs to be done once ever, and it writes to ~/.emacs.d/eln-cache/28.1-b1f2d84a/subr--trampoline-64656c6574652d63686172_delete_char_0.eln , and do it exactly once. However, currently, emacs 28 is doing this via: "/usr/bin/emacs --batch -l /tmp/emacs-int-comp-subr--trampoline..." missing a "-Q", and should be: "/usr/bin/emacs -Q --batch -l /tmp/emacs-int-comp-subr--trampoline..." The consequence of the missing "-Q" is that, this commands also loads emacs-ess, and which requires native compilation, which launches more copies of the process of "emacs ... --batch -l /tmp/emacs-int-comp-subr--trampoline...". We soon have hundred of copies of emacs running, and thousands, and leading to resource exhaustion and eventual crash. I don't know how that trampoline file is generated, and what is its exact purpose, but it seems to be generic (not specific to emacs-ess) , and that it should be compiled with a missing "-Q", instead of running emacs --batch plain. 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<974722961.3073608.1671487166201@mail.yahoo.com> (message from Hin-Tak Leung on Mon, 19 Dec 2022 21:59:26 +0000 (UTC)) Subject: Re: bug#60208: 28.1; Resource exhaustion with emacs 28's native compilation; need "-Q" for trampoline References: <974722961.3073608.1671487166201.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <974722961.3073608.1671487166201@mail.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60208 Cc: 60208@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2022 21:59:26 +0000 (UTC) > From: Hin-Tak Leung > > Now, > "/tmp/emacs-int-comp-subr--trampoline-64656c6574652d63686172_delete_char_0-*.el" > seems to be some kind of stub which needs to be natively compiled as a > prerequisite for any native compilation at all, and it needs to be done > once ever, and it writes to > ~/.emacs.d/eln-cache/28.1-b1f2d84a/subr--trampoline-64656c6574652d63686172_delete_char_0.eln > , and do it exactly once. > > However, currently, emacs 28 is doing this via: > > "/usr/bin/emacs --batch -l /tmp/emacs-int-comp-subr--trampoline..." > > missing a "-Q", and should be: > > "/usr/bin/emacs -Q --batch -l /tmp/emacs-int-comp-subr--trampoline..." > > The consequence of the missing "-Q" is that, this commands also loads > emacs-ess, and which requires native compilation, which launches more > copies of the process of "emacs ... --batch -l > /tmp/emacs-int-comp-subr--trampoline...". I'm not sure this conclusion is correct, because --batch implies -q. There's a difference between -q and -Q, so are you saying that emacs-ess is loaded from a site-init file in your case? 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tuesday, 20 December 2022 at 11:32:21 GMT+8, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I'm not sure this conclusion is correct, because --batch implies -q. > There's a difference between -q and -Q, so are you saying that > emacs-ess is loaded from a site-init file in your case? Yes, that's right. Fedora has a "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.d/ess-init.el" , which contains the single line, "(require 'ess-site)". Indeed as you said. ------=_Part_3252015_570074037.1671528631491 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit


On Tuesday, 20 December 2022 at 11:32:21 GMT+8, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> I'm not sure this conclusion is correct, because --batch implies -q.
> There's a difference between -q and -Q, so are you saying that
> emacs-ess is loaded from a site-init file in your case?

Yes, that's right. Fedora has a "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.d/ess-init.el" , which contains the single line, "(require 'ess-site)". Indeed as you said.

------=_Part_3252015_570074037.1671528631491-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 20 09:16:18 2022 Received: (at 60208) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Dec 2022 14:16:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45157 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p7dPm-00056R-0q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 09:16:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60786) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p7dPk-00056L-1b for 60208@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 09:16:16 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p7dPe-0005KV-CY; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 09:16:10 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=SXxBHWZ3x9fPCBGtX5ijKUCApY/rrtc2Pj2oBvZWADs=; b=Y3Gru3ONC+E2 rxq0G0qFgQ52eo88xIjA4GP2/bB5+SRo4UWPGYauR1OZu1eCfJqSX/8BVy5uu/+w6FNGDtxqD23TY zQ07QajGt6JZNFKReiuIWWF4nFIqVrSe7m/cWRS8FJbZn5e7y0J+0EpDlCn/X85eDJGFYNULm9Jw+ ytzosyNkgjFTQZVEKD9XymGKuA4cBBA7tLSKqtzwmt0WBYJ7xVubT1SnMFJHZQn74+ZB9PAmNDmZi VDNOWLRTjmEEOfblnVF6VaK+6r+YIP5yntwdmcn0VS8DBwqKNG1By4bVa4pJT3n22MCP7HjgYNYho 8nANTP7yODh6+WqkFG2TwQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p7dPd-0006sN-Fy; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 09:16:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 16:16:23 +0200 Message-Id: <83a63icg94.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Hin-Tak Leung , Andrea Corallo In-Reply-To: <1097810616.3252016.1671528631492@mail.yahoo.com> (message from Hin-Tak Leung on Tue, 20 Dec 2022 09:30:31 +0000 (UTC)) Subject: Re: bug#60208: 28.1; Resource exhaustion with emacs 28's native compilation; need "-Q" for trampoline References: <974722961.3073608.1671487166201.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <974722961.3073608.1671487166201@mail.yahoo.com> <83len2da2o.fsf@gnu.org> <1097810616.3252016.1671528631492@mail.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60208 Cc: 60208@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 09:30:31 +0000 (UTC) > From: Hin-Tak Leung > Cc: 60208@debbugs.gnu.org > > On Tuesday, 20 December 2022 at 11:32:21 GMT+8, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > I'm not sure this conclusion is correct, because --batch implies -q. > > There's a difference between -q and -Q, so are you saying that > > emacs-ess is loaded from a site-init file in your case? > > Yes, that's right. Fedora has a "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.d/ess-init.el" , which contains the single > line, "(require 'ess-site)". Indeed as you said. Thanks. Andrea, do you see any problems with adding -Q to the async compilation command line, to avoid processing site-init files? Did we have any reasons not to do that from the beginning, or was it just an omission? 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Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 09:30:31 +0000 (UTC) >> From: Hin-Tak Leung >> Cc: 60208@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> On Tuesday, 20 December 2022 at 11:32:21 GMT+8, Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 09:30:31 +0000 (UTC) >> From: Hin-Tak Leung >> Cc: 60208@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> On Tuesday, 20 December 2022 at 11:32:21 GMT+8, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> >> > I'm not sure this conclusion is correct, because --batch implies -q. >> > There's a difference between -q and -Q, so are you saying that >> > emacs-ess is loaded from a site-init file in your case? >> >> Yes, that's right. Fedora has a "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.d/ess-init.el" , which contains the single >> line, "(require 'ess-site)". Indeed as you said. > > Thanks. > > Andrea, do you see any problems with adding -Q to the async > compilation command line, to avoid processing site-init files? Hi Eli, no I don't. > Did we > have any reasons not to do that from the beginning, or was it just an > omission? Not that I remember. Actually I think we should do this for all compilations (sync and async). If okay I can push the fix on emacs-29. Bests Andrea From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 21 07:47:04 2022 Received: (at 60208) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Dec 2022 12:47:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51641 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p7yUx-0000po-T6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 07:47:04 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55472) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p7yUv-0000pP-Eg for 60208@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 07:47:02 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p7yUq-0000qn-3d; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 07:46:56 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=R5V1r/6XmCsC/r+SAVI2OZgssPeQ9189Mk2BQfY8j9c=; b=Wt0ci/I4jQwM Vnqp4HZf1ILTD5K6pq7ur6cQlJGZhGJF7nb8ZBlQbHIlYI9SJgDHHfTQCrmwICweqEHABVp7Md216 D4deS0SZN7Q0YOEJKQfF0f4xSDD3xEZNpa7/SyFAs9FaG6rM4J4tfqVWE+6JLFkEZzTaj/ca5p08d jMSowPzHqaiH68XGL6K0E760c1QI1EAoMiQfeY3LlWPq1GiHpDqPxbujdUx3K62tWCPWX2+8kkRGO 9i95r8Z8qAODAUErtyWiJHNDvoUfog8xMob++iZJH5tAHgV9jqNxgpZyWdDaT0cv9qH9h9ylAhsAZ ioPhI4lFNsvNzyFhnZ/NBg==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p7yUp-000805-Ct; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 07:46:55 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 14:46:52 +0200 Message-Id: <835ye4c4ar.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Andrea Corallo In-Reply-To: (message from Andrea Corallo on Wed, 21 Dec 2022 09:25:38 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#60208: 28.1; Resource exhaustion with emacs 28's native compilation; need "-Q" for trampoline References: <974722961.3073608.1671487166201.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <974722961.3073608.1671487166201@mail.yahoo.com> <83len2da2o.fsf@gnu.org> <1097810616.3252016.1671528631492@mail.yahoo.com> <83a63icg94.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60208 Cc: htl10@users.sourceforge.net, 60208@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Andrea Corallo > Cc: Hin-Tak Leung , 60208@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 09:25:38 +0000 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Andrea, do you see any problems with adding -Q to the async > > compilation command line, to avoid processing site-init files? > > Hi Eli, > > no I don't. > > > Did we > > have any reasons not to do that from the beginning, or was it just an > > omission? > > > Not that I remember. Actually I think we should do this for all > compilations (sync and async). > > If okay I can push the fix on emacs-29. Yes, please. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 21 17:30:51 2022 Received: (at 60208) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Dec 2022 22:30:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54306 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p87bu-0005rl-RJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 17:30:51 -0500 Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:49401) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p87bt-0005rd-0U for 60208@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 17:30:49 -0500 Received: from ma.sdf.org (ma.sdf.org [205.166.94.33]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 2BLMUlxb000238 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Wed, 21 Dec 2022 22:30:47 GMT From: Andrea Corallo To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#60208: 28.1; Resource exhaustion with emacs 28's native compilation; need "-Q" for trampoline In-Reply-To: <835ye4c4ar.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 21 Dec 2022 14:46:52 +0200") References: <974722961.3073608.1671487166201.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <974722961.3073608.1671487166201@mail.yahoo.com> <83len2da2o.fsf@gnu.org> <1097810616.3252016.1671528631492@mail.yahoo.com> <83a63icg94.fsf@gnu.org> <835ye4c4ar.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 22:30:47 +0000 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 3.6 (+++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Andrea Corallo >> Cc: Hin-Tak Leung , 60208@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 09:25:38 +0000 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> [...] Content analysis details: (2.6 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 3.6 RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus SBL-CSS [205.166.94.33 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Andrea Corallo >> Cc: Hin-Tak Leung , 60208@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 09:25:38 +0000 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> > Andrea, do you see any problems with adding -Q to the async >> > compilation command line, to avoid processing site-init files? >> >> Hi Eli, >> >> no I don't. >> >> > Did we >> > have any reasons not to do that from the beginning, or was it just an >> > omission? >> >> >> Not that I remember. Actually I think we should do this for all >> compilations (sync and async). >> >> If okay I can push the fix on emacs-29. > > Yes, please. Done with e59216d3be8. 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Thu, 22 Dec 2022 00:33:46 +0000 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 00:33:42 +0000 (UTC) From: Hin-Tak Leung To: Eli Zaretskii , Andrea Corallo Message-ID: <39346012.4596533.1671669222506@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: <974722961.3073608.1671487166201.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <974722961.3073608.1671487166201@mail.yahoo.com> <83len2da2o.fsf@gnu.org> <1097810616.3252016.1671528631492@mail.yahoo.com> <83a63icg94.fsf@gnu.org> <835ye4c4ar.fsf@gnu.org> Subject: Re: bug#60208: 28.1; Resource exhaustion with emacs 28's native compilation; need "-Q" for trampoline MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4596532_18114542.1671669222505" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20982 YMailNoble Content-Length: 1204 X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60208 Cc: 60208@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Hin-Tak Leung Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) ------=_Part_4596532_18114542.1671669222505 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thursday, 22 December 2022 at 06:31:08 GMT+8, Andrea Corallo wrote: > Done with e59216d3be8. 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On Thursday, 22 December 2022 at 06:31:08 GMT+8, Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org> wrote:

> Done with e59216d3be8.

Thanks a lot for the speedy response!
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Thanks, I'm therefore closing this bug. 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Thu, 22 Dec 2022 16:18:00 +0000 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 13:46:52 +0000 (UTC) From: Hin-Tak Leung To: Eli Zaretskii Message-ID: <1054228874.4936064.1671716812562@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <835ye3aoow.fsf@gnu.org> References: <974722961.3073608.1671487166201.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <974722961.3073608.1671487166201@mail.yahoo.com> <83len2da2o.fsf@gnu.org> <1097810616.3252016.1671528631492@mail.yahoo.com> <83a63icg94.fsf@gnu.org> <835ye4c4ar.fsf@gnu.org> <39346012.4596533.1671669222506@mail.yahoo.com> <835ye3aoow.fsf@gnu.org> Subject: Re: bug#60208: 28.1; Resource exhaustion with emacs 28's native compilation; need "-Q" for trampoline MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4936063_2057239089.1671716812561" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20982 YMailNoble Content-Length: 731 X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60208-done Cc: 60208-done@debbugs.gnu.org, akrl@sdf.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Hin-Tak Leung Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) ------=_Part_4936063_2057239089.1671716812561 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for all the work. Just one more question: should/could this fix go into 28.2? I can file at the distros to get it back-ported either way. ------=_Part_4936063_2057239089.1671716812561 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Thanks for all the work. Just one more question: should/could this fix go into 28.2? I can file at the distros to get it back-ported either way.
------=_Part_4936063_2057239089.1671716812561-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 22 11:23:05 2022 Received: (at 60208) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Dec 2022 16:23:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35942 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p8OLY-0000L1-Nm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 11:23:04 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:32796) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p8OLW-0000KK-N3 for 60208@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 11:23:03 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p8NPd-0008ST-Gr; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 10:23:13 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=reinUUXV7gVJMdB+0zizbNFwxrG7fvnLJlWHfVworl4=; b=ppiMdhaa54rE YeokPGFBWu1F9N+uNS9g7loYHlG9FrAUBTPi3qEjpaTGWmP8pTxPYMnQH2X0oCkx+ADo9OIIal8S9 diSH0tclhOZsg/SsolyJeJpPafJR8ZsQUV95uG0D2qCMhv84IK0RJyy/8sOS9VJUBVZILjf2HWSdy 5/L6AKjHk2e1NquYGD70/G3TPc19pNN553+Wm8ljEv09Jq6qYTb+EBteCa8TJ+bRL1CpmIblLgmxI YfXwUSVxBi1hkZigD0nB6Bk97llc8WXEFPzmIM9bv8FYmf3zKHz1JRSkGJqVU/Q5ZFbgmUgV/1Wgm Sy/mHBKFMKxQDVUkPyeaCQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p8NPc-0008Rp-Rz; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 10:23:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 17:22:58 +0200 Message-Id: <83pmcb8nu5.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Hin-Tak Leung In-Reply-To: <1054228874.4936064.1671716812562@mail.yahoo.com> (message from Hin-Tak Leung on Thu, 22 Dec 2022 13:46:52 +0000 (UTC)) Subject: Re: bug#60208: 28.1; Resource exhaustion with emacs 28's native compilation; need "-Q" for trampoline References: <974722961.3073608.1671487166201.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <974722961.3073608.1671487166201@mail.yahoo.com> <83len2da2o.fsf@gnu.org> <1097810616.3252016.1671528631492@mail.yahoo.com> <83a63icg94.fsf@gnu.org> <835ye4c4ar.fsf@gnu.org> <39346012.4596533.1671669222506@mail.yahoo.com> <835ye3aoow.fsf@gnu.org> <1054228874.4936064.1671716812562@mail.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60208 Cc: 60208@debbugs.gnu.org, akrl@sdf.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 13:46:52 +0000 (UTC) > From: Hin-Tak Leung > Cc: akrl@sdf.org, 60208-done@debbugs.gnu.org > > Thanks for all the work. Just one more question: should/could this fix go into 28.2? I can file at the distros to > get it back-ported either way. We don't plan on any more Emacs 28.x releases, but you can backport the change in your downstream sources, if you want. 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Thu, 22 Dec 2022 16:32:35 +0000 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 16:32:31 +0000 (UTC) From: Hin-Tak Leung To: Eli Zaretskii Message-ID: <1353366850.5086698.1671726751687@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <83pmcb8nu5.fsf@gnu.org> References: <974722961.3073608.1671487166201.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <974722961.3073608.1671487166201@mail.yahoo.com> <83len2da2o.fsf@gnu.org> <1097810616.3252016.1671528631492@mail.yahoo.com> <83a63icg94.fsf@gnu.org> <835ye4c4ar.fsf@gnu.org> <39346012.4596533.1671669222506@mail.yahoo.com> <835ye3aoow.fsf@gnu.org> <1054228874.4936064.1671716812562@mail.yahoo.com> <83pmcb8nu5.fsf@gnu.org> Subject: Re: bug#60208: 28.1; Resource exhaustion with emacs 28's native compilation; need "-Q" for trampoline MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5086697_1869159052.1671726751685" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20982 YMailNoble Content-Length: 4190 X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60208 Cc: 60208@debbugs.gnu.org, akrl@sdf.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Hin-Tak Leung Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) ------=_Part_5086697_1869159052.1671726751685 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thursday, 22 December 2022 at 23:23:29 GMT+8, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > We don't plan on any more Emacs 28.x releases, but you can backport > the change in your downstream sources, if you want. That's okay. Thanks for time for responding. I have already filed at the distro to get it back ported: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2155824 The change looks small/easier enough to back port. It was knowing where to insert the change that was the hard. I knew a "-Q" is needed somewhere but it was somewhat hard to find out how the trampoline files are generated. (Yes, it is all in the source code, and in particular, probably in comp.el, but good guess is not the same as knowing) Thanks for the time of responding. ------=_Part_5086697_1869159052.1671726751685 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Thursday, 22 December 2022 at 23:23:29 GMT+8, Eli Za= retskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> We don't plan on any more Em= acs 28.x releases, but you can backport
> the change i= n your downstream sources, if you want.

That's okay. Thanks for time for responding. I have already filed = at the distro to get it back ported:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D2155824=

The change looks small/easi= er enough to back port. It was knowing where to insert the change that was = the hard. I knew a "-Q" is needed somewhere but it was somewhat hard to fin= d out how the trampoline files are generated. (Yes, it is all in the source= code, and in particular, probably in comp.el, but good guess is not the sa= me as knowing)

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Thanks for the time of respondin= g.
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