From unknown Wed Jun 18 00:21:03 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#60106 <60106@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#60106 <60106@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: [Shepherd 0.9.3] =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=98system*=E2=80=99?= replacement cannot be passed environment variables Reply-To: bug#60106 <60106@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 07:21:03 +0000 retitle 60106 [Shepherd 0.9.3] =E2=80=98system*=E2=80=99 replacement cannot= be passed environment variables reassign 60106 guix submitter 60106 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s severity 60106 important thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 15 17:47:32 2022 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2022 22:47:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45373 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p5x0l-0004oB-PF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2022 17:47:32 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:58646) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p5x0i-0004o1-8G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2022 17:47:30 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p5x0f-0005IW-60 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2022 17:47:28 -0500 Received: from mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr ([192.134.164.104]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p5x0b-0001Ld-Q7 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2022 17:47:23 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=inria.fr; s=dc; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version: content-transfer-encoding; bh=CyqfCTA1RwJJKuHIUhkF2KmdCA17/xprZjyWwO/whmw=; b=Xtf1Cv4jzIZTwXN1VxFFC5mvLsxHnTOQXn+KmON+5GmWrvgFfLEYmJRn cc8B4rVvuUWqd1HJpCeV69lCN4z7x0dVMI2ydZFfFEDz1qMNW7idR3djH FIHvVrxJveaRAMKdYYvpl9fNzN+YY2+nBw/1LWwLAfGypakeSgfD/q3+h c=; Authentication-Results: mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr; dkim=none (message not signed) header.i=none; spf=SoftFail smtp.mailfrom=ludovic.courtes@inria.fr; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) d=inria.fr X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.96,248,1665439200"; d="scan'208";a="42796942" Received: from 91-160-117-201.subs.proxad.net (HELO ribbon) ([91.160.117.201]) by mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 15 Dec 2022 23:47:17 +0100 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: bug-guix@gnu.org Subject: [Shepherd 0.9.3] =?utf-8?B?4oCYc3lzdGVtKuKAmQ==?= replacement cannot be passed environment variables X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: Quintidi 25 Frimaire an 231 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9v?= =?utf-8?Q?olution=2C?= jour du Grillon X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2022 23:47:15 +0100 Message-ID: <87pmckl1xo.fsf@inria.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=192.134.164.104; envelope-from=ludovic.courtes@inria.fr; helo=mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) As we found out while debugging , the Shepherd 0.9.3, with its =E2=80=98system*=E2=80=99 replacement (aka. =E2=80= =98spawn-command=E2=80=99), makes it very hard to spawn a command with different environment variables. The following options don=E2=80=99t work: =E2=80=A2 Changing shepherd=E2=80=99s own environment variables with =E2= =80=98setenv=E2=80=99 for instance: =E2=80=98spawn-command=E2=80=99 calls =E2=80=98fork+exec-comm= and=E2=80=99, whose default #:environment-variables is provided by the =E2=80=98default-environment-variables=E2=80=99 parameter, which gets i= ts default value at when shepherd starts. There=E2=80=99s no environment variable inheritance, contrary to the real =E2=80=98system*=E2=80=99. =E2=80=A2 Parameterizing =E2=80=98default-environment-variables=E2=80=99: (parameterize ((default-environment-variables =E2=80=A6)) (system* =E2=80=A6)) That won=E2=80=99t work because =E2=80=98spawn-command=E2=80=99 delegat= es to the process monitoring fiber, which has a different dynamic state and thus doesn=E2=80=99t see this change. =E2=80=A2 Even a plain (set! default-environment-variables =E2=80=A6) won= =E2=80=99t work, probably due to inlining within (shepherd services). I think we=E2=80=99ll have to add a parameter to =E2=80=98spawn-command=E2= =80=99 to specify environment variables. Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 22 11:18:15 2022 Received: (at 60106) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Dec 2022 16:18:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35926 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p8OGs-0000HK-SC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 11:18:15 -0500 Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([178.21.23.139]:53474) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p8OGo-0000Gr-9K for 60106@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 11:18:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by disroot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8632340F25; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 17:18:08 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: SPAM Filter at disroot.org Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (disroot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id r66vSGWVXhlv; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 17:18:07 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <7bff0337-5bfd-22d9-8cc2-b7912eef0f66@disroot.org> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=disroot.org; s=mail; t=1671725887; bh=e9QYmWo8crXOkI1yEv9oQkI2dZBWbDkI5gECWpcKumQ=; h=Date:To:Subject:From:Cc; b=SAKq1/RNtR9fj0NUspbPEnTyTGIZA/XSLtcb4VVItPy/izfRsBtWUjxjTI2Nao+Xa 7lm9OPLC3JILJEv9wQp3AuuYQY24RwTJsNTW+Sj63lHkIoFD/P6jnCNY6fluRJdHN3 WssnN0d1heOug3mrqAwSHieFtfGda3Df8XNdxxRIGZg8FpqRnmmqQc1Dk6POIVdA+X ZwRbbmx1UNfQ6fwmHgKWDTp2ksDcjL8vUZtNIaZRgTGVQhTfCSX9kxl8wjI4h5Zaer +0l4QIpGLLENNVl5Jwfq+d+k0pKLQ4WvFH6Nxw90+fvtlnH+4UpIpBcfNBZVX9MRwP sOGsx8LoA7Lcw== Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 16:17:59 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 60106@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: =?UTF-8?B?W1NoZXBoZXJkIDAuOS4zXSDigJhzeXN0ZW0q4oCZIHJlcGxhY2VtZW50?= =?UTF-8?Q?_cannot_be_passed_environment_variables?= Content-Language: en-US From: Adam Faiz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60106 Cc: ludovic.courtes@inria.fr X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > I think we’ll have to add a parameter to ‘spawn-command’ to specify > environment variables. > > Ludo’. If you do this, can you add an #:append? flag which adds environment variables to the inherited environment instead of specifying the variables declaratively? It can be #f by default. It would be very useful for me using the shepherd as init on a foreign distro, so I don't have to use the `env` command. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 22 11:47:46 2022 Received: (at 60106) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Dec 2022 16:47:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36074 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p8OjS-0000ij-5y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 11:47:46 -0500 Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr ([192.134.164.83]:59542) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p8OjQ-0000id-2i for 60106@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 11:47:44 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=inria.fr; s=dc; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to: message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Dj8gyjWhB8sdtUbO8exSloe47q+HnC4E/iY0vc+lbGw=; b=Yx1TSS0KXbUNTo6m7b+cjoWWA0U+8pIZpUzwRmNXt5dlIgweEIpPOkgo YSnFJ0hALn0xL//+AT839gJowfASsuVfoIh14XDttHG0/Nz4/FU9YJcFK eU2IcONL5NYm1VIHgqs/5D0DjdJpZqHCzW/hemw5CoTmHwcXgEzU9vKbi k=; Authentication-Results: mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr; dkim=none (message not signed) header.i=none; spf=SoftFail smtp.mailfrom=ludovic.courtes@inria.fr; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) d=inria.fr X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.96,265,1665439200"; d="scan'208";a="84715310" Received: from unknown (HELO ribbon) ([193.50.110.60]) by mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 22 Dec 2022 17:47:37 +0100 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Adam Faiz Subject: Re: [Shepherd 0.9.3] =?utf-8?B?4oCYc3lzdGVtKuKAmQ==?= replacement cannot be passed environment variables References: <7bff0337-5bfd-22d9-8cc2-b7912eef0f66@disroot.org> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: Duodi 2 =?utf-8?Q?Niv=C3=B4se?= an 231 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution=2C?= jour de la Houille X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 17:47:37 +0100 In-Reply-To: <7bff0337-5bfd-22d9-8cc2-b7912eef0f66@disroot.org> (Adam Faiz's message of "Thu, 22 Dec 2022 16:17:59 +0000") Message-ID: <87k02j1j2u.fsf@inria.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60106 Cc: 60106@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Adam Faiz skribis: >> I think we=E2=80=99ll have to add a parameter to =E2=80=98spawn-command= =E2=80=99 to specify >> environment variables. >> Ludo=E2=80=99. > If you do this, can you add an #:append? flag which adds environment > variables to the inherited environment instead of specifying the > variables declaratively? It can be #f by default. > > It would be very useful for me using the shepherd as init on a foreign > distro, so I don't have to use the `env` command. You could always write something like: #:environment-variables `("EXTRA_VARIABLE=3Dsomething" ,@(environ)) to append =E2=80=98EXTRA_VARIABLE=E2=80=99 to those of the environment. So I don=E2=80=99t think we need #:append. Thanks for your feedback, Ludo=E2=80=99. 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Sat, 04 Mar 2023 17:09:51 -0500 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Ulf Herrman Subject: Re: bug#61803: [PATCH 0/3] [shepherd] improve race-free spawn+wait References: <87cz5x1jr2.fsf@tilde.club> Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2023 23:09:49 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87cz5x1jr2.fsf@tilde.club> (Ulf Herrman's message of "Sat, 25 Feb 2023 16:08:01 -0600") Message-ID: <877cvwp3rm.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60106-done Cc: 61803@debbugs.gnu.org, 60106-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi Ulf, Ulf Herrman skribis: > From 51ee63ace6f3f52eb196c990664cc6b9af3d3683 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > From: ulfvonbelow > Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 00:46:27 -0600 > Subject: [PATCH 2/3] service: accept fork+exec-command argument list in > monitor. > > Sometimes it's necessary to run startup / shutdown programs as a certain = user, > in a certain directory, with certain environment variables, etc. Shepherd > currently provides a replacement for system* that won't race against the > child process auto-reaper, but this lacks the flexibility Shepherd users = are > used to. > > * modules/shepherd/service.scm (process-monitor): treat command instead as > argument list to fork+exec-command. > (spawn-via-monitor): update to new convention. > (fork+exec+wait-command): new procedure. On this one I took a similar approach but chose to extend =E2=80=98spawn-command=E2=80=99 instead of introducing a new procedure=E2= =80=94see commit 0f3276a9c3dafbef41b0aab88ba5dda1bb78dc99. Another difference is explicitly listing keyword arguments so that their default values are taken from the caller=E2=80=99s dynamic state and not fr= om that of the process monitoring fiber. This fixes . Let me know what you think! Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. From unknown Wed Jun 18 00:21:03 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2023 11:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator