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With argument N, it uses the Nth previous element. That second line makes it sound like arg N is optional. It's not - there is no _without_ argument N. In GNU Emacs 28.2 (build 2, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2022-09-13 built on AVALON Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.19044 System Description: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (v10.0.2009.19044.2251) Configured using: 'configure --with-modules --without-dbus --with-native-compilation --without-compress-install CFLAGS=3D-O2' Configured features: ACL GIF GMP GNUTLS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY W32NOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS XPM ZLIB (NATIVE_COMP present but libgccjit not available) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 16 10:33:15 2022 Received: (at 60103) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Dec 2022 15:33:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50022 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p6Ci3-0000uO-Jq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 10:33:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55854) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p6Ci1-0000uH-T0 for 60103@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 10:33:14 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p6Chw-0003gn-EC; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 10:33:08 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=tsZjh5NbGSFfb0KVkjA9+SdpAbPFEoBb/ZAfVRKPwYg=; b=aQ/hzw7gxNfU IufjgUX6UuZOU0bMdpPce1DG4cBWx5HKXOLYJeQmF0IqZReeUk/BSzCCajqdjx45QO8W24FdqOHe4 jPgqKVHUpeaxV1FAIJfHJGvTf4egFcNM/yPEe8c4kXa5mmboWdsZITQ1Pk74d6ugnrYx8KevMdr45 bn1CU6q15UR9utvtv/Vsva/UsBzGmePKr0VDSkpLRnBhbKeQrPiuNHOxtA75E2goBi4B8//ORuUjR ptthxcoNZ42ZxF/IXecoGfwLWIz0KYrM0rrXUlVIdMQeb5FylGoDGTkE2yXAowlY+IGBvsbxWScUB FWAkqh+uJSbFHPFiByCIqw==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p6Chv-0007gc-QI; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 10:33:08 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 17:33:10 +0200 Message-Id: <83cz8jjrd5.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Drew Adams In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Thu, 15 Dec 2022 21:05:31 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#60103: 28.2; Doc string of `previous-history-element' References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60103 Cc: 60103@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Drew Adams > Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2022 21:05:31 +0000 > > The doc string says this: > > Puts previous element of the minibuffer history in the minibuffer. > With argument N, it uses the Nth previous element. > > That second line makes it sound like arg N is optional. It's not - > there is no _without_ argument N. What do you mean by "no _without_"? This command is bound to M-p in the minibuffer, and I can definitely invoke it as "just" M-n, _without_ any prefix argument. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: oracle.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: a37b288f-ceb6-4de1-ad13-08dadf8e73ae X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 16 Dec 2022 17:53:34.5055 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 4e2c6054-71cb-48f1-bd6c-3a9705aca71b X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: a/+kUfSQPOEQ5HPawdULIWS5JVdRmatpVQJasL5kbAcwJCFcjW/yjdgVUpkdOYMLHTNjSfclXSZZMvy0m/VIng== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: PH0PR10MB4535 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=baseguard engine=ICAP:2.0.205,Aquarius:18.0.923,Hydra:6.0.545,FMLib:17.11.122.1 definitions=2022-12-16_12,2022-12-15_02,2022-06-22_01 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlxscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 mlxlogscore=684 suspectscore=0 spamscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2212070000 definitions=main-2212160155 X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: iSH1QqQJLWbiXDq1GcR7eHW-UiR-p8U3 X-Proofpoint-GUID: iSH1QqQJLWbiXDq1GcR7eHW-UiR-p8U3 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60103 Cc: "60103@debbugs.gnu.org" <60103@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > > The doc string says this: > > > > Puts previous element of the minibuffer history in the minibuffer. > > With argument N, it uses the Nth previous element. > > > > That second line makes it sound like arg N is optional. It's not - > > there is no _without_ argument N. >=20 > What do you mean by "no _without_"? This command is bound to M-p in > the minibuffer, and I can definitely invoke it as "just" M-n, > _without_ any prefix argument. I mean "without argument N", not "without a prefix arg". It's not possible to invoke the function without providing argument N - it's not optional. If you want to say something like "With numeric prefix argument N..." then that would be fine. Thx. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 16 13:48:23 2022 Received: (at 60103-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Dec 2022 18:48:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50950 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p6Fkt-0005Pa-Kt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 13:48:23 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50964) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p6Fks-0005PT-Ro for 60103-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 13:48:23 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p6Fkm-0001wp-BP; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 13:48:17 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ZebvfB3navbGhpsu7xByntocZFM9Zo+hhmMallWG3JU=; b=U7SYaYku+zjM U+2UQghcQwM+cRwLRoDKZddWGzvFQB9P2ESEdtZn8i846D6Hsxt4graPuXEc1KVUQedp1wCc5u2iN 7300CgJTQM8mGtsRUmJ82yngOZoUDX88I8/hS8YXVdwKoIC2CfAu7os2GNM3D3FAPEZmVFMFkwGXO sXEV66wyDJkdAnkuvJ+8Jqoa80d+kC1HP/yTqky/vAdf1o02IOY7gX9Ds4Qurwqudq8NDqNEt3H0j XbZ7esxfTLpyIISjysfgO9UibUQtzls27jr3EyYdlZyGFx5Zx7ChtqLfxPtLt7eqYTMoE11QqJvSI hYZHQeIk/DxhcRkit5incA==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p6Fkl-0003Cf-Ol; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 13:48:16 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 20:48:19 +0200 Message-Id: <83sfhfi3rg.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Drew Adams In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Fri, 16 Dec 2022 17:53:34 +0000) Subject: Re: [External] : Re: bug#60103: 28.2; Doc string of `previous-history-element' References: <83cz8jjrd5.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60103-done Cc: 60103-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Drew Adams > CC: "60103@debbugs.gnu.org" <60103@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 17:53:34 +0000 > > > > The doc string says this: > > > > > > Puts previous element of the minibuffer history in the minibuffer. > > > With argument N, it uses the Nth previous element. > > > > > > That second line makes it sound like arg N is optional. It's not - > > > there is no _without_ argument N. > > > > What do you mean by "no _without_"? This command is bound to M-p in > > the minibuffer, and I can definitely invoke it as "just" M-n, > > _without_ any prefix argument. > > I mean "without argument N", not "without a prefix > arg". > > It's not possible to invoke the function without > providing argument N - it's not optional. > > If you want to say something like "With numeric > prefix argument N..." then that would be fine. That's what I did (the original doc string didn't mention the prefix argument explicitly, but clearly alluded to that when it said "argument"). From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:15:46 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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