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The two commands are presumably nearly the same, the difference being that one kills to the `kill-ring' and the other just deletes. Please consider, in each of these doc strings, adding a reference to the other command. E.g., "See also `-matching-lines', which is similar but ." That will make uses aware of the existence of the other command. Sometimes users don't consider, or aren't even aware, of the difference between the two kinds of deletion. You might also explicitly point out the use case for `kill-*', e.g., when giving the summary in the "See also": killing lets you subsequently yank the matching lines somewhere. Doesn't hurt to point this out briefly. In GNU Emacs 28.2 (build 2, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2022-09-13 built on AVALON Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.19044 System Description: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (v10.0.2009.19044.2251) Configured using: 'configure --with-modules --without-dbus --with-native-compilation --without-compress-install CFLAGS=3D-O2' Configured features: ACL GIF GMP GNUTLS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY W32NOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS XPM ZLIB (NATIVE_COMP present but libgccjit not available) From unknown Mon Aug 18 17:53:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#59934: 28.2; Doc strings of `(kill|delete)-matching-lines' Resent-From: Juanma Barranquero Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2022 23:02:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59934 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 59934@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 59934-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59934.167062690727889 (code B ref 59934); Fri, 09 Dec 2022 23:02:02 +0000 Received: (at 59934) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2022 23:01:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39055 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p3mNH-0007Fl-5u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2022 18:01:47 -0500 Received: from mail-ed1-f47.google.com ([209.85.208.47]:41799) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p3mNF-0007Fb-VX for 59934@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2022 18:01:46 -0500 Received: by mail-ed1-f47.google.com with SMTP id m19so5101439edj.8 for <59934@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 09 Dec 2022 15:01:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=29/uRlpcQCW4sYEAKElKdvRHr1PEVuFwwDFdlRmAnmg=; b=K07y8ijPvwQLtZHWZMkd5bq2t2Wi25fGMzxiFZKq/0vnkDNQXa7gpTxykuA+bVkKNZ opImiz9qAg3YwLBbeAG1UBoJWXWb5jBjrqftE5T7KTtThF5xa+RXEXQiB73PbDl9Ng3S /quL2xg6TrLor2/HloaNbDS3sXjdZEQ7wfhnzZMRNh16S1zI0bmDfAEkBObUN7oSjmT4 iR8/cFRhh90cZ0iMmRwk3qF/R2zgTt38uLJm1hMyfS6bF6rZQbGSJ6pye98WCwylExwj ucU5QWD5xFLvPQRbTYFHVwh+92LYTBehjKkLegI4eht2NLdxgTF52//ssKq/1XHyHIuX GQzg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=29/uRlpcQCW4sYEAKElKdvRHr1PEVuFwwDFdlRmAnmg=; b=SgJw/K8Rvj9j78LKKbYCYEM2yQ+COhOYYh6hJXBaBavkfQGPefP7RAG3JOpRbGHiA5 +EIymUFmqCRbkOIyAn3lZVRTbbXwRIn+x9vkV+BjRcpgH0TuaQidCkSt1uxxxPnb9AaD R8JM8DH2UimfQ9VoNIRlEMS76SH720fTS6AwLte+mLQVk6ynYuhnPRZY3xrxAzucvowv GNHnHWIVEsuwV6dPvq2qrtEdvNZ432xgg/puFDA2UNNaYGFrlgufOCnDIQw9T66Y7HzC DJMaH5kAk/lD9pN33ZBTEXHS2/O2fzqUCHvArzyIKV+dtgGfbahYmEvHhlfQI3Sa9MOJ 1PwA== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pnyE3Z4e6++avDkjrwmTIBc2NulNZB6LaBHCVrXfxeNQQ3k5ZDk JyHPYpQWh9AtgWSU1KogkgHDInocMlhJBIvMtjk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf485icaesmXt/tKFyjUMUPcCoRKKyzegmILxpvO5v6gaOMnPvcKhBHDKBAYuav0azdqB321lkw/sWZat/nLEk4= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:d7c4:0:b0:46c:751a:faad with SMTP id e4-20020aa7d7c4000000b0046c751afaadmr18483245eds.163.1670626900096; Fri, 09 Dec 2022 15:01:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Juanma Barranquero Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2022 00:01:04 +0100 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000eebdc505ef6d22c1" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --000000000000eebdc505ef6d22c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" The docstring of `kill-matching-lines' already says (just at the end): If you merely want to delete the lines, without adding them to the kill ring, the M-x flush-lines command is faster. but the one for `delete-matching-lines'/`flush-lines' does not mention the kill- version. On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 11:52 PM Drew Adams wrote: > These two doc strings are _very_ similar. The two commands are > presumably nearly the same, the difference being that one kills > to the `kill-ring' and the other just deletes. > > Please consider, in each of these doc strings, adding a reference to the > other command. E.g., "See also `-matching-lines', which is > similar but ." That will make uses aware of > the existence of the other command. Sometimes users don't consider, or > aren't even aware, of the difference between the two kinds of deletion. > > You might also explicitly point out the use case for `kill-*', e.g., > when giving the summary in the "See also": killing lets you subsequently > yank the matching lines somewhere. Doesn't hurt to point this out > briefly. > > In GNU Emacs 28.2 (build 2, x86_64-w64-mingw32) > of 2022-09-13 built on AVALON > Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.19044 > System Description: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (v10.0.2009.19044.2251) > > Configured using: > 'configure --with-modules --without-dbus --with-native-compilation > --without-compress-install CFLAGS=-O2' > > Configured features: > ACL GIF GMP GNUTLS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP > NOTIFY W32NOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS > XPM ZLIB > > (NATIVE_COMP present but libgccjit not available) > > > > > --000000000000eebdc505ef6d22c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The docstring of `kill-matching-lines' already says (just at = the end):

=C2=A0 If you merely want to delete the lines, without add= ing them to
=C2=A0 the kill ring, the M-x flush-lines command is faster.=

but the one for `delete-matching-lines'/`flush-lines' does = not mention the kill- version.

On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 11:52 PM Drew Ad= ams <drew.adams@oracle.com&= gt; wrote:
These= two doc strings are _very_ similar.=C2=A0 The two commands are
presumably nearly the same, the difference being that one kills
to the `kill-ring' and the other just deletes.

Please consider, in each of these doc strings, adding a reference to the other command.=C2=A0 E.g., "See also `<other>-matching-lines'= ;, which is
similar but <summarize the difference>."=C2=A0 That will make us= es aware of
the existence of the other command.=C2=A0 Sometimes users don't conside= r, or
aren't even aware, of the difference between the two kinds of deletion.=

You might also explicitly point out the use case for `kill-*', e.g., when giving the summary in the "See also": killing lets you subse= quently
yank the matching lines somewhere.=C2=A0 Doesn't hurt to point this out=
briefly.

In GNU Emacs 28.2 (build 2, x86_64-w64-mingw32)
=C2=A0of 2022-09-13 built on AVALON
Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.19044<= br> System Description: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (v10.0.2009.19044.2251)

Configured using:
=C2=A0'configure --with-modules --without-dbus --with-native-compilatio= n
=C2=A0--without-compress-install CFLAGS=3D-O2'

Configured features:
ACL GIF GMP GNUTLS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP
NOTIFY W32NOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS XPM ZLIB

(NATIVE_COMP present but libgccjit not available)




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In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 9 Dec 2022 23:14:30 +0000") References: X-Hashcash: 1:20:221213:59934@debbugs.gnu.org::42VJFATTETe+sQtI:5Lyp MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 16:48:48 -0800 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) close 59934 29.1 thanks Drew Adams writes: > The docstring of `kill-matching-lines' already says (just at the end): > > If you merely want to delete the lines, without adding them to > the kill ring, the M-x flush-lines command is faster. > > True. What's missing there is the name correspondence/similarity. > I think it would be more helpful if it used `M-x delete-matching-lines'. > Following that link, a user would see that the other name for that is `flush-lines'. > but the one for `delete-matching-lines'/`flush-lines' does not mention the kill- version. Thanks, I fixed that on emacs-29 (commit 489bcacc7c). From unknown Mon Aug 18 17:53:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#59934: 28.2; Doc strings of `(kill|delete)-matching-lines' Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 01:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59934 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: Juanma Barranquero , "59934@debbugs.gnu.org" <59934@debbugs.gnu.org> Received: via spool by 59934-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59934.167089443423765 (code B ref 59934); Tue, 13 Dec 2022 01:21:02 +0000 Received: (at 59934) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Dec 2022 01:20:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56855 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p4tyE-0006BE-Az for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 20:20:34 -0500 Received: from mail-oi1-f174.google.com ([209.85.167.174]:34757) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p4tyC-0006Ax-Hw for 59934@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 20:20:32 -0500 Received: by mail-oi1-f174.google.com with SMTP id n205so12970259oib.1 for <59934@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 17:20:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=quopuUT7ZE9+8liPwz2w8GC9qcifkBdL0tufLFGzzt8=; b=MW7d36a4W9qzwhd1lR5vaZQ7a3Paq2oKBizURIC+y/AljVt94Yt0ABkR6fGz0/vryG stXl3KD64/K4GrOnedw2LmQZsd88bcz63udCl7u53oiOjatWjxFvFgo3iUgOvVZcGa1l mxbpMo6Dip6wR9yhQfi2BROpq2T+Ul5I3WTfCJtEMDz8Qg7WPuCuAV4rVF+YVtvZvrtf wx8mhWei4To9iUf9imE5ghMeRiEYnYYRoJ0/hONDzw9rhMB1L9KsZ3DsdkkJ/9m6WyLX sl7jEny4g8N0DNIkfhmW9Yb8ZdKU/fKEa5vEWrgYDNu4wSO8/9Ey+1F9IZNESaA3E7JS sEsg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=quopuUT7ZE9+8liPwz2w8GC9qcifkBdL0tufLFGzzt8=; b=fuqyBMf47WoMYeY1mjmDxzO1zjyihHfRy/3TuWPpBd7uAcZBVHQXPb7cOF1H0epbBB dM5rLleubX6Ob0PHM8P7VgldgvuU4n7R5Y0+m81p4ZoLv8Ik8eFXIiU5H/ugkHoGO0my bsvgAqeUBjCSAtwxaTXdr71pClWD25d7meeHaNBLlqMvD/LhdH7+RD25ykZ35BJ/gAKg CcBUqxHttV81RHhxxAuJ5janpLDNrthxsH2pFkoZM+N0sVKoKMl1LvY6hotTyptEvj7F WC5l8NgLUbmj5GX2eNFXNUVCldlaXYYlZ1Xc2RgOP3UeYtgnIX6JBRWb+RnthGhH7YU2 y0YA== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pnykW58r1Osuk5neNLQf3+9wwZ4Plpzavl0K2AHNBxZGr4rhGvU pHg3O6Z5kbk/r+obTcPplBcNg+DM4GA63PyvANk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf55kvJkFva8uDZ0IUeMvw56WIfG4gflb5pKEjZQha0mxBAWYtTVJKkbr+6OxMEuObnA7XFc1uz3m+uDTBM288I= X-Received: by 2002:aca:a946:0:b0:35e:373e:226a with SMTP id s67-20020acaa946000000b0035e373e226amr55772oie.199.1670894427131; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 17:20:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 17:20:26 -0800 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 9 Dec 2022 23:14:30 +0000") References: X-Hashcash: 1:20:221213:59934@debbugs.gnu.org::42VJFATTETe+sQtI:5Lyp MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 17:20:26 -0800 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) close 59934 29.1 thanks Drew Adams writes: > The docstring of `kill-matching-lines' already says (just at the end): > > If you merely want to delete the lines, without adding them to > the kill ring, the M-x flush-lines command is faster. > > True. What's missing there is the name correspondence/similarity. > I think it would be more helpful if it used `M-x delete-matching-lines'. > Following that link, a user would see that the other name for that is `flush-lines'. > but the one for `delete-matching-lines'/`flush-lines' does not mention the kill- version. Thanks, I fixed that on emacs-29 (commit 489bcacc7c).