From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:34:22 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#5990 <5990@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#5990 <5990@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 23.1; Cannot type the word =?UTF-8?Q?=E8=B2=B7=E3=81=84=E3=81=BE=E3=81=99?= Reply-To: bug#5990 <5990@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2025 18:34:22 +0000 retitle 5990 23.1; Cannot type the word =E8=B2=B7=E3=81=84=E3=81=BE=E3=81=99 reassign 5990 emacs submitter 5990 Erik Mekhsian severity 5990 normal tag 5990 moreinfo thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 20 14:56:15 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Apr 2010 18:56:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O4IcJ-0000yF-1H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:56:15 -0400 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O4IV8-0000uQ-9h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:48:50 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:57024) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1O4IV3-0002Hm-Po for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:48:45 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O4IV3-0000Gj-DD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:48:45 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=48595 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O4IUx-0000Ek-Ac for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:48:45 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_DKIM_INVALID,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.0 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O4IUv-000411-0F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:48:39 -0400 Received: from mail-qy0-f194.google.com ([209.85.221.194]:33253) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O4IUu-00040r-Te for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:48:36 -0400 Received: by qyk32 with SMTP id 32so6684581qyk.12 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:48:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IpTQTIPVnK5fxTaCkKqSnhabKgHpfpmZqtqCcXg9SyQ=; b=X+8qrx4q3Ri0jpyRkPlbsn1c3mKBqhoa4DempRoXXg73xBaHgmWVQ6SkV/NduAcvOj Q9IVlgcyTzbifxjIwxBd2j+MOrCwfRRHEbUA3gcut5j6hXsTdOrY9SuVaSP5oWN8976Z snWIJ+6UaIdJpDwvkOcoaHBzyPph4O0EmpS1E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=CdmB4VgYQfHtK9fv7vGixzkQ4Huz0UZVPRiKfrRkt8+QK1vVxtuHtkCjxnXFJeYela q+usw+6+2ojEK1fwIRk5XzjYt49+YRbZUDUVTYwijyl50SDy4pcjYEO6Ro79miPJSezc op3T2WLssRPAOnYcROyr3zcZyUGFa/E7OXZHs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.6.77 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:48:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 13:48:14 -0500 Received: by 10.229.217.1 with SMTP id hk1mr6246643qcb.81.1271789294585; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:48:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?B?MjMuMTsgQ2Fubm90IHR5cGUgdGhlIHdvcmQg6LK344GE44G+44GZ?= From: Erik Mekhsian To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:56:14 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Setting the input method to Japanese and typing the word "kaimasu", then hitting to cycle through the list of replacement kanji shows only =E6=94=B9=E3=83=9E=E3=82=B9 and =E9=96=8B=E3=83=9E=E3=82=B9. In parti= cular, I expected to see =E8=B2=B7=E3=81=84=E3=81=BE=E3=81=99, although =E9=A3=BC=E3=81=84=E3=81=BE=E3=81=99, =E4=BA=A4=E3=81=84=E3=81=BE= =E3=81=99, and =E6=94=AF=E3=81=84=E3=81=BE=E3=81=99 should be there as well= . This is the only word I have had this problem with so far. In GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.3) of 2010-03-25 on palmer, modified by Debian Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10604000 configured using `configure '--build=3Di486-linux-gnu' '--host=3Di486-linux-gnu' '--prefix=3D/usr' '--sharedstatedir=3D/var/lib' '--libexecdir=3D/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=3D/var/lib' '--infodir=3D/usr/share/info' '--mandir=3D/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=3Dyes= ' '--enable-locallisppath=3D/etc/emacs23:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/23= .1/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.1/site-li= sp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.1/leim' '--with-x=3Dyes' '--with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk' '--with-toolkit-scroll-bars' 'build_alias=3Di486-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=3Di486-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=3D-DDEBIAN -g -O2' 'LDFLAGS=3D-g' 'CPPFLAGS=3D'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=3Dibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Text Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: C-x C-f j p t s t . t x t C-\ j a p a n e s e k a i m a s u SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC M-x r e p o r t - e m Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. (New file) Loading quail/japanese...done Loading /home/akira/.kkcrc...done /usr/bin/mail is not an executable. Setting mail-interactive to t. 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[74.73.128.199]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u44sm13966135qtc.27.2016.08.06.21.05.48 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 06 Aug 2016 21:05:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Hyatt To: Erik Mekhsian Subject: Re: bug#5990: 23.1; Cannot type the word =?utf-8?B?6LK344GE44G+?= =?utf-8?B?44GZ?= In-Reply-To: (Erik Mekhsian's message of "Tue, 20 Apr 2010 13:48:14 -0500") References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (darwin) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2016 00:05:45 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5990 Cc: 5990@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Trying this out Emacs 25, I get completely different text. My choices are: =E3=81=8B=E3=81=84=E3=81=BE=E3=81=99 =E5=9E=A3=E9=96=93=E3=81=99 =E5=8A=A0=E5=B1=85=E9=96=93=E3=81=99 =E9=81=8E=E5=B1=85=E9=96=93=E3=81=99 =E5=8F=AF=E5=B1=85=E9=96=93=E3=81=99 I don't read Japanese, so I can't comment on how appropriate any of the matches are. >From what I can tell, the Japanese word list is build off of http://openlab.ring.gr.jp/skk/skk/dic/SKK-JISYO.L. I don't know about the process of changing that. Erik Mekhsian writes: > Setting the input method to Japanese and typing the word "kaimasu", then > hitting to cycle through the list of replacement kanji shows > only =E6=94=B9=E3=83=9E=E3=82=B9 and =E9=96=8B=E3=83=9E=E3=82=B9. In par= ticular, I expected to see =E8=B2=B7=E3=81=84=E3=81=BE=E3=81=99, > although =E9=A3=BC=E3=81=84=E3=81=BE=E3=81=99, =E4=BA=A4=E3=81=84=E3=81= =BE=E3=81=99, and =E6=94=AF=E3=81=84=E3=81=BE=E3=81=99 should be there as w= ell. This > is the only word I have had this problem with so far. > > In GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.3) > of 2010-03-25 on palmer, modified by Debian > Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10604000 > configured using `configure '--build=3Di486-linux-gnu' > '--host=3Di486-linux-gnu' '--prefix=3D/usr' '--sharedstatedir=3D/var/lib' > '--libexecdir=3D/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=3D/var/lib' > '--infodir=3D/usr/share/info' '--mandir=3D/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=3Dy= es' > '--enable-locallisppath=3D/etc/emacs23:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/= 23.1/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.1/site-= lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.1/leim' > '--with-x=3Dyes' '--with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk' '--with-toolkit-scroll-bars' > 'build_alias=3Di486-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=3Di486-linux-gnu' > 'CFLAGS=3D-DDEBIAN -g -O2' 'LDFLAGS=3D-g' 'CPPFLAGS=3D'' > > Important settings: > value of $LC_ALL: nil > value of $LC_COLLATE: nil > value of $LC_CTYPE: nil > value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil > value of $LC_MONETARY: nil > value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil > value of $LC_TIME: nil > value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 > value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=3Dibus > locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix > default-enable-multibyte-characters: t > > Major mode: Text > > Minor modes in effect: > tooltip-mode: t > tool-bar-mode: t > mouse-wheel-mode: t > menu-bar-mode: t > file-name-shadow-mode: t > global-font-lock-mode: t > font-lock-mode: t > blink-cursor-mode: t > global-auto-composition-mode: t > auto-composition-mode: t > auto-encryption-mode: t > auto-compression-mode: t > line-number-mode: t > transient-mark-mode: t > > Recent input: > C-x C-f j p t s t . t x t C-\ j a p a n e > s e k a i m a s u SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC > SPC M-x r e p o r t - e m > > Recent messages: > For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. > (New file) > Loading quail/japanese...done > Loading /home/akira/.kkcrc...done > /usr/bin/mail is not an executable. Setting mail-interactive to t. > Loading ja-dic/ja-dic...done From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 07 09:59:41 2016 Received: (at 5990) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Aug 2016 13:59:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59136 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bWOc8-0005O9-QU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2016 09:59:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57086) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bWOc6-0005Nv-Di for 5990@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2016 09:59:39 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bWObw-0001jL-FS for 5990@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2016 09:59:33 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:46460) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bWObw-0001ic-CM; Sun, 07 Aug 2016 09:59:28 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3431 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bWObu-0002rL-6O; Sun, 07 Aug 2016 09:59:26 -0400 Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2016 16:59:22 +0300 Message-Id: <834m6wk7d1.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Andrew Hyatt In-reply-to: (message from Andrew Hyatt on Sun, 07 Aug 2016 00:05:45 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#5990: 23.1; Cannot type the word =?utf-8?B?6LK344GE44G+44GZ?= References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5990 Cc: akirashinigami@gmail.com, 5990@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) > From: Andrew Hyatt > Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2016 00:05:45 -0400 > Cc: 5990@debbugs.gnu.org > > Trying this out Emacs 25, I get completely different text. My choices > are: > > かいます > 垣間す > 加居間す > 過居間す > 可居間す > > I don't read Japanese, so I can't comment on how appropriate any of the > matches are. I tried the same in Emacs 23, and I couldn't reproduce the issue there, either. Maybe the OP had some customized dictionary, or maybe even didn't use the Emacs IM? E.g., this might be relevant: > value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus > >From what I can tell, the Japanese word list is build off of > http://openlab.ring.gr.jp/skk/skk/dic/SKK-JISYO.L. I don't know about > the process of changing that. If there are significant updates, we can import a new version for the next release, I think. 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[174.2.107.88]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q193sm14801546iod.0.2016.08.08.10.01.28 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 08 Aug 2016 10:01:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#5990: 23.1; Cannot type the word =?utf-8?B?6LK344GE44G+?= =?utf-8?B?44GZ?= References: <834m6wk7d1.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2016 11:01:27 -0600 In-Reply-To: <834m6wk7d1.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 07 Aug 2016 16:59:22 +0300") Message-ID: <87mvknkxeg.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5990 Cc: Andrew Hyatt , akirashinigami@gmail.com, 5990@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > E.g., this might be relevant: > >> value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=3Dibus FWIW, I tried it on a system with that value and I got the same results as Andrew. Maybe he did use a different IM. > If there are significant updates, we can import a new version for the > next release, I think. I can't say anything on that front, but I tried updating the Japanese dictionary to the latest version using skkdic-convert in lisp/international/ja-dic-cnv.el and it still gave the "wrong" results for =E8=B2=B7=E3=81=84=E3=81=BE=E3=81=99. I can also reproduce this with inflected versions of some common words like =E3=81=AF=E3=81=AA=E3=81=97=E3=81=BE=E3=81=99 and =E3=82=88=E3=81=BF= =E3=81=BE=E3=81=99. Neither produce the expected results of =E8=A9=B1 =E3=81=97=E3=81=BE=E3=81=99=E3=80=80and =E8=AA=AD=E3=81=BF=E3=81=BE=E3=81= =99. The above examples work as expected with the mozc IM (https://github.com/google/mozc). 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[164.70.191.144]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x15sm5906887pfq.31.2021.08.30.23.13.11 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 30 Aug 2021 23:13:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2021 15:13:09 +0900 From: Naohiro Aota To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#5990: 23.1; Cannot type the word =?utf-8?B?6LK344GE44G+?= =?utf-8?B?44GZ?= Message-ID: <20210831061309.ppeluqllz4jim5hp@naota-xeon> References: <834m6wk7d1.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvknkxeg.fsf@gmail.com> <878s0oui53.fsf@gnus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <878s0oui53.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5990 Cc: Andrew Hyatt , akirashinigami@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii , Alex , 5990@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 09:21:12PM +0200, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Alex writes: > > >> If there are significant updates, we can import a new version for the > >> next release, I think. > > > > I can't say anything on that front, but I tried updating the Japanese > > dictionary to the latest version using skkdic-convert in > > lisp/international/ja-dic-cnv.el and it still gave the "wrong" results for > > 買います. Background: I'm Japanese. > In Emacs 28, I'm getting: > These are still all valid (possible) kanji conversion for "kaimasu". > 魔居間す (This looks strange. I guess there are some mistakes for this one.) > 加居間す > 過居間す > 可居間す All these can be read as "ka" (加, 過, 可) + "ima" (居間) + "su" (す). > かいます The implementation of leim's kanji conversion is so simple as follow. In short, it just find the longest match from the dictionary even if it is strange (for Japanese) or not. (setq kkc-current-key (string-to-vector kkc-original-kana)) (setq kkc-length-head (length kkc-current-key)) (unwind-protect ... (while (not (kkc-lookup-key kkc-length-head nil first)) (setq kkc-length-head (1- kkc-length-head) first nil)) So, we get the longest conversion of "kaimasu" as "kaima" as above. To get "買います", we need explicitly set the conversion length to 2 with C-o/C-i. It can be reproduced in a code like this: (let ((kkc-current-key "かいます")) (kkc-lookup-key 2) kkc-current-conversions) (1 "買い" "書い" "描い" "飼い" "画い" "欠い" "掻い" "嗅い" "交い" "畫い" "缺い" ...) ;; `-- Here, we have the "買います" result (let ((kkc-current-key "かいます")) (kkc-lookup-key 3) kkc-current-conversions) (1 "垣間" "加居間" "過居間" "可居間") > So I'm not getting 買います here, either. > > But I guess we're just using whatever is in: > > http://openlab.ring.gr.jp/skk/skk/dic/SKK-JISYO.L > > (Our version was updated earlier this year.) So is this something that > we can fix on our side, or is it just what this dictionary says? Well, other IM like mozc is much more intelligent to prefer "買います" than the above three conversions because "買います" is plausible. IMHO, implementing such complex algorithm is out of scope for leim. It still can be a "rescue" tool even with the simple algorithm if you can set a proper conversion length. And, we anyway use other IM like mozc, SKK, tc.el. Thanks, > -- > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) > bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no > > > From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 31 04:34:25 2021 Received: (at 5990) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2021 08:34:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32857 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mKzDt-0006q9-9I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2021 04:34:25 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:45054) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mKzDq-0006pw-VW for 5990@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2021 04:34:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=DTj4ZWnB6ZJI5Hg4ZukRnMEd75QUZS3IkYsU2ierOVo=; b=CcU3Hp0Y5MQZk+o9cI+KB5q1Es gfco3r4gh2tRzoPTd+USNeH4ORitR6NyXm0WhscNi4YOB/a+74wB5VnJCu2XxN1JhWBoE+7wfcvz9 6vDm4fwYZDF1SZM/DaruIbrQ+ftSVFcRKLDrPFnPO9CVlcDRJMdBjN0qcIoaTIF12wMQ=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mKzDg-0000b7-96; Tue, 31 Aug 2021 10:34:16 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Naohiro Aota Subject: Re: bug#5990: 23.1; Cannot type the word =?utf-8?B?6LK344GE44G+?= =?utf-8?B?44GZ?= References: <834m6wk7d1.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvknkxeg.fsf@gmail.com> <878s0oui53.fsf@gnus.org> <20210831061309.ppeluqllz4jim5hp@naota-xeon> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2021 10:34:11 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20210831061309.ppeluqllz4jim5hp@naota-xeon> (Naohiro Aota's message of "Tue, 31 Aug 2021 15:13:09 +0900") Message-ID: <87a6kyj9mk.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Naohiro Aota writes: > To get "買います", we need explicitly set the conversion length to 2 > with C-o/C-i. It can be reproduced in a code like this: > > (let ((kkc-current-key "かいます")) > (kkc-lookup-key 2) > [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5990 Cc: Andrew Hyatt , akirashinigami@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii , Alex , 5990@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Naohiro Aota writes: > To get "=E8=B2=B7=E3=81=84=E3=81=BE=E3=81=99", we need explicitly set the= conversion length to 2 > with C-o/C-i. It can be reproduced in a code like this: > > (let ((kkc-current-key "=E3=81=8B=E3=81=84=E3=81=BE=E3=81=99")) > (kkc-lookup-key 2) > kkc-current-conversions) > (1 "=E8=B2=B7=E3=81=84" "=E6=9B=B8=E3=81=84" "=E6=8F=8F=E3=81=84" "=E9=A3= =BC=E3=81=84" "=E7=94=BB=E3=81=84" "=E6=AC=A0=E3=81=84" "=E6=8E=BB=E3=81=84= " "=E5=97=85=E3=81=84" "=E4=BA=A4=E3=81=84" "=E7=95=AB=E3=81=84" "=E7=BC=BA= =E3=81=84" ...) > ;; `-- Here, we have the "=E8=B2=B7=E3=81=84=E3=81=BE=E3=81=99" result Ah, I see. > IMHO, implementing such complex algorithm is out of scope for leim. It > still can be a "rescue" tool even with the simple algorithm if you can > set a proper conversion length. And, we anyway use other IM like mozc, > SKK, tc.el. 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[164.70.191.144]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y64sm21095458pgy.32.2021.08.31.06.03.30 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 31 Aug 2021 06:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2021 22:03:28 +0900 From: Naohiro Aota To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#5990: 23.1; Cannot type the word =?utf-8?B?6LK344GE44G+?= =?utf-8?B?44GZ?= Message-ID: <20210831130328.ffqcwzsxvykbhukz@naota-xeon> References: <834m6wk7d1.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvknkxeg.fsf@gmail.com> <878s0oui53.fsf@gnus.org> <20210831061309.ppeluqllz4jim5hp@naota-xeon> <87a6kyj9mk.fsf@gnus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <87a6kyj9mk.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5990 Cc: Andrew Hyatt , akirashinigami@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii , Alex , 5990@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 10:34:11AM +0200, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Naohiro Aota writes: > > > To get "買います", we need explicitly set the conversion length to 2 > > with C-o/C-i. It can be reproduced in a code like this: > > > > (let ((kkc-current-key "かいます")) > > (kkc-lookup-key 2) > > kkc-current-conversions) > > (1 "買い" "書い" "描い" "飼い" "画い" "欠い" "掻い" "嗅い" "交い" "畫い" "缺い" ...) > > ;; `-- Here, we have the "買います" result > > Ah, I see. > > > IMHO, implementing such complex algorithm is out of scope for leim. It > > still can be a "rescue" tool even with the simple algorithm if you can > > set a proper conversion length. And, we anyway use other IM like mozc, > > SKK, tc.el. > > So it this basically working as designed, and the bug report should be > closed? Yes, I think so. > -- > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) > bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 01 04:07:32 2021 Received: (at 5990) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Sep 2021 08:07:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36148 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mLLHQ-0008J3-G3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 04:07:32 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:57180) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mLLHO-0008In-3S for 5990@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 04:07:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Hq+a8+yZS03ANU6Lu2/W5V7D3P1GdzUwMGaNmLhVTD0=; b=brmgsH11Uiacxeshq2xC0KqKPR imJyVn/Lb1y6hu2Alq9KLjUla3qYTL7yVnmwtqcM7dHrpDGSoIRrl9fW+CrGcetltn8EF2hndwQIj aWijMxf9tV9fXjFvTgrSpSBdgs/SJj7vZUxCODOJHlTNfgXfiK9mRX/tLzT+U0IhQL3E=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mLLHD-0000KM-E7; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 10:07:23 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Naohiro Aota Subject: Re: bug#5990: 23.1; Cannot type the word =?utf-8?B?6LK344GE44G+?= =?utf-8?B?44GZ?= References: <834m6wk7d1.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvknkxeg.fsf@gmail.com> <878s0oui53.fsf@gnus.org> <20210831061309.ppeluqllz4jim5hp@naota-xeon> <87a6kyj9mk.fsf@gnus.org> <20210831130328.ffqcwzsxvykbhukz@naota-xeon> Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2021 10:07:16 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20210831130328.ffqcwzsxvykbhukz@naota-xeon> (Naohiro Aota's message of "Tue, 31 Aug 2021 22:03:28 +0900") Message-ID: <87o89chg7f.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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