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pcase vs. pcase-let: Underscore in backquote-style patterns

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Message #16 received at 59887-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: hokomo <hokomo <at> airmail.cc>
To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen <at> web.de>
Cc: 59887-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#59887: pcase vs. pcase-let: Underscore in backquote-style
 patterns
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 19:26:28 +0100

> Note this part of the `pcase-let' documentation string:
>
> | Each EXP should match (i.e. be of compatible structure) to its
> | respective PATTERN; a mismatch may signal an error or may go
> | undetected, binding variables to arbitrary values, such as 
> nil.
>
> Your first case is invalid because the pattern doesn't match the 
> value.
> Here it goes undetected and bindings get established.

I see! That clarifies the behavior I was seeing.

> This behavior is not perfect, but AFAIR it has been preferred 
> over the
> less efficient code that better checks would mean.  So it's the
> programmer's task to use only matching patterns.  This is not 
> really a
> restriction because `pcase-let' is intended to create bindings, 
> not for
> testing whether a pattern matches some value.

I suppose that's a fair tradeoff.

> This idea had been discussed in the past.  It had some votes but 
> it had
> been decided not to implement such a feature because it would 
> not really
> fit into the existing semantics, just for the sake of leaving 
> out one
> ",".  So I'm afraid I don't think we will change this.

Right, it doesn't seem like such a huge win now that I understand 
that the behavior of pcase-let was according to its specification 
and there was no inconsistency to begin with. It would maybe make 
the code a little bit easier to read in certain cases, but I can 
see your point.

> I think the current behavior can be understood and explained 
> from the
> documentation quite well.  If you can point to something 
> concrete
> missing, please elaborate, and we can reopen this report.

Your quote above made everything clear, but I completely missed it 
since I was reading the Emacs Lisp manual's explanation [1] rather 
than pcase-let's docstring. Maybe it would be beneficial to 
include the above quote in the manual as well.

[1] 
<https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Destructuring-with-pcase-Patterns.html>

Thanks!

hokomo

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