GNU bug report logs - #59476
Inconsistency in TeX input method: \ggg vs \Ll

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: Michael Shulman <shulman <at> sandiego.edu>

Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 08:03:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: fixed

Fixed in version 29.1

Done: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com>

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From: Michael Shulman <shulman <at> sandiego.edu>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Inconsistency in TeX input method: \ggg vs \Ll
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 23:25:04 -0800
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The quail key sequences in the "TeX" input method are inconsistent: the
key sequence for 0x22D8 VERY MUCH LESS-THAN (⋘) is "\Ll", but the key
sequence for 0x22D9 VERY MUCH GREATER-THAN (⋙) is "\ggg".

Personally, I would prefer that they be made consistent by changing ⋘ to
"\lll" (or at least adding it as an alternative), since the Agda input
method, which inherits from the TeX input method, uses "\Gg" for the small
Greek letter gamma (γ).
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From: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com>
To: Michael Shulman <shulman <at> sandiego.edu>
Cc: 59476 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#59476: Inconsistency in TeX input method: \ggg vs \Ll
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 12:06:45 +0100
>>>>> On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 23:25:04 -0800, Michael Shulman <shulman <at> sandiego.edu> said:

    Michael> The quail key sequences in the "TeX" input method are inconsistent: the
    Michael> key sequence for 0x22D8 VERY MUCH LESS-THAN (⋘) is "\Ll", but the key
    Michael> sequence for 0x22D9 VERY MUCH GREATER-THAN (⋙) is "\ggg".

    Michael> Personally, I would prefer that they be made consistent by changing ⋘ to
    Michael> "\lll" (or at least adding it as an alternative), since the Agda input
    Michael> method, which inherits from the TeX input method, uses "\Gg" for the small
    Michael> Greek letter gamma (γ).

Thereʼs nothing stopping you from doing that locally:

(with-temp-buffer
  (activate-input-method "TeX") ;; the input method has to be triggered for `quail-package-alist' to be non-nil
  (let ((quail-current-package (assoc "TeX" quail-package-alist)))
    (quail-define-rules ((append . t))
                        ("\\lll" ?⋘))))

(I donʼt use the TeX input method, so I canʼt judge if doing that by
default makes sense, although adding it as an alternative seems
relatively harmless.)

Robert
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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 59476 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, shulman <at> sandiego.edu
Subject: Re: bug#59476: Inconsistency in TeX input method: \ggg vs \Ll
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 16:19:56 +0200
> Cc: 59476 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 12:06:45 +0100
> 
> (with-temp-buffer
>   (activate-input-method "TeX") ;; the input method has to be triggered for `quail-package-alist' to be non-nil
>   (let ((quail-current-package (assoc "TeX" quail-package-alist)))
>     (quail-define-rules ((append . t))
>                         ("\\lll" ?⋘))))
> 
> (I donʼt use the TeX input method, so I canʼt judge if doing that by
> default makes sense, although adding it as an alternative seems
> relatively harmless.)

Would you please add it?  TIA.




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From: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 59476 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, shulman <at> sandiego.edu
Subject: Re: bug#59476: Inconsistency in TeX input method: \ggg vs \Ll
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 16:52:03 +0100
tags 59476 fixed
close 59476 29.1
quit

>>>>> On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 16:19:56 +0200, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> said:

    >> Cc: 59476 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
    >> From: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com>
    >> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 12:06:45 +0100
    >> 
    >> (with-temp-buffer
    >> (activate-input-method "TeX") ;; the input method has to be triggered for `quail-package-alist' to be non-nil
    >> (let ((quail-current-package (assoc "TeX" quail-package-alist)))
    >> (quail-define-rules ((append . t))
    >> ("\\lll" ?⋘))))
    >> 
    >> (I donʼt use the TeX input method, so I canʼt judge if doing that by
    >> default makes sense, although adding it as an alternative seems
    >> relatively harmless.)

    Eli> Would you please add it?  TIA.

Done
Closing
Committed as 4b6e152e34




Added tag(s) fixed. Request was from Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Tue, 22 Nov 2022 15:53:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug marked as fixed in version 29.1, send any further explanations to 59476 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and Michael Shulman <shulman <at> sandiego.edu> Request was from Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Tue, 22 Nov 2022 15:53:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 59476 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, shulman <at> sandiego.edu
Subject: Re: bug#59476: Inconsistency in TeX input method: \ggg vs \Ll
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 18:52:23 +0200
> From: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com>
> Cc: shulman <at> sandiego.edu,  59476 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 16:52:03 +0100
> 
> tags 59476 fixed
> close 59476 29.1
> quit
> 
> >>>>> On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 16:19:56 +0200, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> said:
> 
>     >> Cc: 59476 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>     >> From: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com>
>     >> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 12:06:45 +0100
>     >> 
>     >> (with-temp-buffer
>     >> (activate-input-method "TeX") ;; the input method has to be triggered for `quail-package-alist' to be non-nil
>     >> (let ((quail-current-package (assoc "TeX" quail-package-alist)))
>     >> (quail-define-rules ((append . t))
>     >> ("\\lll" ?⋘))))
>     >> 
>     >> (I donʼt use the TeX input method, so I canʼt judge if doing that by
>     >> default makes sense, although adding it as an alternative seems
>     >> relatively harmless.)
> 
>     Eli> Would you please add it?  TIA.
> 
> Done

Thanks!




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