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envelope-from=gabriel376@hotmail.com; helo=NAM10-DM6-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) Severity: wishlist Description: URIs (http, mail, news, ftp etc) in Dictionary are not properly handled. It means that URIs are treated like a regular search phrase, which is not really useful for `dictionary-search' (since most will not return any results) and no default mechanism is available to follow such URIs. Steps: 1) emacs -q (master "6b0179f7908c658342d1e642e5444e3d2e1cd997") 2) Run `dictionary-search' with some search word whose results contains URIs in dict.org, for example: M-x dictionary-search RET emacs RET M-x dictionary-search RET fsf RET M-x dictionary-search RET w3c RET M-x dictionary-search RET python RET M-x dictionary-search RET ruby RET Actual result: URIs are treated like a regular search phrase, in which RET will execute `dictionary-new-search' will not find any results. Compare with EWW behavior: 1) emacs -q (master "6b0179f7908c658342d1e642e5444e3d2e1cd997" 2) M-x eww RET 3) Search for some search word whose results contains URIs, for example: emacs fsf w3c python ruby Actual result: despite some tags seems to be broken, it's possible to follow the links (e.g.: follow "http://python.org/" when searching for "python"). Alternative: It seems that `goto-address-mode' can be enabled to help handling URIs in Dictionary buffers, which will find some URI patterns (using `goto-address-url-regexp' and `goto-address-mail-regexp'), allowing to follow URLs and composing emails with C-c RET (`goto-address-at-point'). Perhaps `goto-address-at-point' can be enabled by default in `dictionary-mode`? Other alternative is to handle URIs natively in `dictionary-mode'. For example, some proper URI handling in the action of `dictionary-link' button or in `dictionary-display-word-definition'. Nevertheless, I believe the default behavior of Dictionary could be improved, i.e., to avoid treating URIs as regular search words that will provide little to none value to users (since it will mostly fail to find results) and to provide a better integration with other Emacs features (e.g.: EWW to browse URLs or Gnus to compose emails). --- Gabriel From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 22 02:56:52 2022 Received: (at 59448) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Nov 2022 07:56:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49617 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oxO9E-0002Ev-4p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2022 02:56:52 -0500 Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.194]:64293) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oxO97-0002ER-B4 for 59448@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2022 02:56:47 -0500 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 500CB4000C; Tue, 22 Nov 2022 07:56:37 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov To: Gabriel Subject: Re: bug#59448: 29.0.50; URIs in Dictionary are not properly handled In-Reply-To: (Gabriel's message of "Mon, 21 Nov 2022 11:52:42 -0300") Organization: LINKOV.NET References: Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 09:54:35 +0200 Message-ID: <86y1s3bjn8.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59448 Cc: 59448@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > URIs (http, mail, news, ftp etc) in Dictionary are not properly handled. > It means that URIs are treated like a regular search phrase, which is > not really useful for `dictionary-search' (since most will not return > any results) and no default mechanism is available to follow such URIs. Thanks for the bug reports (your posts about tab-line will be addressed soon too). > Other alternative is to handle URIs natively in `dictionary-mode'. For > example, some proper URI handling in the action of `dictionary-link' > button or in `dictionary-display-word-definition'. > > Nevertheless, I believe the default behavior of Dictionary could be > improved, i.e., to avoid treating URIs as regular search words that will > provide little to none value to users (since it will mostly fail to find > results) and to provide a better integration with other Emacs features > (e.g.: EWW to browse URLs or Gnus to compose emails). Another alternative would be to fall back to handling URIs only when dictionary-search fails to find a definition. So instead of displaying the message "Word not found" it could try to open the URI that can be found in the provided string. 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Tue, 22 Nov 2022 21:11:35 +0000 From: Gabriel To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#59448: 29.0.50; URIs in Dictionary are not properly handled In-Reply-To: <86y1s3bjn8.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Tue, 22 Nov 2022 09:54:35 +0200") References: <86y1s3bjn8.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 18:11:29 -0300 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Content-Type: text/plain X-TMN: [HZTjAFpiL3fxnhkbGXHyQ4FJhKSYUUzAMA7lb2y2QhGGDgnwNiDIoK6tZmyRwTHe] X-ClientProxiedBy: CP4P284CA0010.BRAP284.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (2603:10d6:103:128::7) To SJ0PR06MB8609.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:a03:40c::11) X-Microsoft-Original-Message-ID: <87r0xu1ypq.fsf@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Exchange-MessageSentRepresentingType: 1 X-MS-PublicTrafficType: Email X-MS-TrafficTypeDiagnostic: SJ0PR06MB8609:EE_|SN6PR06MB4671:EE_ X-MS-Office365-Filtering-Correlation-Id: cd875ab2-a891-4d02-01a6-08daccce2321 X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0; X-Microsoft-Antispam-Message-Info: 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 X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-ChunkCount: 1 X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-0: =?us-ascii?Q?8DCf8tpfDImlf+ewC7ILQ2aeqnnw83dwnJLWpgr7EIqGyApSSNYMHVpx/Etb?= =?us-ascii?Q?MhQoEq+kdO6iT5u6S8GYuOGrqSPXr9s5GBui+WsSRjRYcOVqekgjpscFAjUq?= =?us-ascii?Q?EQUX2bWWni3DtB22HNfcaoR739AdNaXb1aD1xLskU8Sl1x7gei2uLeDEUIbf?= =?us-ascii?Q?E3vjmth8/yFaRDqZXUwBHWC2+igJUQmApQGrlvlxTJi0zmrxpiRWWcZzM6lh?= =?us-ascii?Q?uPtKQMwKCoVhkzd+as+5O+NJRpbLXYQIud4jvamCxYH6lwUX7iFUYAiBTrys?= =?us-ascii?Q?gYbnUSmirip8CvPWdEZkjhjqOiwP5TrzQ2kpNJd5srVSSd9RZQlsCWEvqM2Q?= =?us-ascii?Q?JUqxit+J2Z7lTaicULvAXQZRG5DPSV3Nr0ip4apESVTKl5A0h3bBWcE6WSZB?= =?us-ascii?Q?OFc+j6XEfTzZ5+O/ytd0P+q08OasQZnh5yECaNrKcwjhC2OChnMnf3fVS+7I?= =?us-ascii?Q?zXg8ggsmZqNpbrURdNgAGThn+6/yj13+dWa/OODwqEeoTJmUhzJm9OCDl7Wb?= =?us-ascii?Q?7ZC8Ar9/pIa1H+VPMHSxj1ynx/f43AfHtsVtv3MOaHlwS4S6psXhpyv+37Oc?= =?us-ascii?Q?szvW9hcCNOpUnNrhgAtUdnC9fjzV/7QwR3yagu1x4r/LdzsXblffvKRnH+6V?= =?us-ascii?Q?DulNy2bVcUW3d+3LJkcf7ijQdmCDmZ0YgOSRW9qM48fAjGrozyBfhWB8NDAZ?= =?us-ascii?Q?eqYFoy/WzPWolP8Pd/HucvDysxVd2W31VHHqBZnIyKxuuvUidjvkTNDv6auI?= =?us-ascii?Q?ML7iCG+0qvVAGH1TiJdPXTNSAWE+DFpsoARM7VWIqojewQ1T0ji39vc3W4qo?= =?us-ascii?Q?9WyApByf/b6M9SWxuGjTmlEdLfkd1YryevHLP5CO4uJXToP5Ska9MaYz29Bc?= =?us-ascii?Q?fmTiZfbSR68BbXkefc7seU2jEwZOuj3HTfKcwCgfAgpE9WdwJHwEYm2i3YEq?= =?us-ascii?Q?YbP+Zncbd2r6iwXqk65+UeE+hSdntwvpb22BlXaH9nso1YoRc7pnQaEmhDsO?= =?us-ascii?Q?ceTusHVmTo/PdBJFoXN1Z7owgWXBv7mJP0tXDdGupjrVV3sPfjbsWduZbwsX?= =?us-ascii?Q?0oAwctCiie9qxj7w5NzD39G8RwwB3v5Qg7kKFPYc2FTHOwY7SzHUlWXxWn6U?= =?us-ascii?Q?oK0bWQymb4ooUW5CDJnRB2Mfh6C4bV0MCeVpna4HascCWHcW1LhDUrZqG234?= =?us-ascii?Q?FCEIE1lBRz1EIlxvugtVPirMKGD56kPBoJPQELUoYBBZZVs5x1xJdyZLnInl?= =?us-ascii?Q?geJw/uUwpYIjRGP8wfKyb1eJpzcP8GvK/dHCODDr11ZHb1Wi3IFoog97raib?= =?us-ascii?Q?dOxgCv4WqWq/oDPP2sGIxnrqYwpa/EcXdIVyzaxypJrIcw=3D=3D?= X-OriginatorOrg: sct-15-20-4755-11-msonline-outlook-89723.templateTenant X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: cd875ab2-a891-4d02-01a6-08daccce2321 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: SJ0PR06MB8609.namprd06.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2022 21:11:35.4336 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: 84df9e7f-e9f6-40af-b435-aaaaaaaaaaaa X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-RMS-PersistedConsumerOrg: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: SN6PR06MB4671 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=40.92.41.45; envelope-from=gabriel376@hotmail.com; helo=NAM10-DM6-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) Juri Linkov writes: > > Another alternative would be to fall back to handling URIs > only when dictionary-search fails to find a definition. > So instead of displaying the message "Word not found" it could > try to open the URI that can be found in the provided string. Hi Juri, Yes, that's a good approach too, thank you! I think the downsides of this suggestion (in comparison to creating appropriate buttons for URIs during the display of Dictionary results) are: 1) An unnecessary IO call to fetch Dictionary results that we already know before-hand that will fail. 2) Lack of appropriate information for user (e.g.: help in echo-area with `display-local-help'). I personally prefer the other approach of creating appropriate buttons for URIs, but I am open to any solution. --- Gabriel From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 24 06:45:53 2022 Received: (at 59448) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Nov 2022 11:45:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57558 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oyAfw-00005T-H5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2022 06:45:52 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49912) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oyAfu-00005C-2o for 59448@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2022 06:45:51 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oyAfl-000405-Tt; Thu, 24 Nov 2022 06:45:44 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=pYrTpdIbo3LiUhI52+wC+oR2soaaXqkiiKWxJ8xQP04=; b=QMr1yNmZ+gLJ MFXaBYkav1T/fQ9kc9zBUlZAZET5bfjpxYZgzxC7kL+ms5IZwQQsx06D2PaJg48LXMGGOkwNhcYns SqYBO+4a5F0ezQ37KBjOXQ+1fZ+nw7DFWErqisdtmgGqRzU3CqF9PuDmJ1tQndlcYdBs53yKqFbKi cW2mvxpW2xJXFfqvudD5Sm20JR5miblrekkF6PbDAP7v6T9q9/VrXYSS7aQjSNqoWX/fs1OrzO9p6 7dARK5hWbKpZtSf90Q8KPXrJOWEDdaJekLDyGqq7sqO8WlqGso/8m5IXvSu1haHi/y+xYSx7gcYty m3pBu780RZkTuZvyzn+DhA==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oyAfY-0004yk-96; Thu, 24 Nov 2022 06:45:28 -0500 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2022 13:45:48 +0200 Message-Id: <83leo0wp77.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Gabriel In-Reply-To: (message from Gabriel on Mon, 21 Nov 2022 11:52:42 -0300) Subject: Re: bug#59448: 29.0.50; URIs in Dictionary are not properly handled References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59448 Cc: 59448@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Gabriel > Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 11:52:42 -0300 > > URIs (http, mail, news, ftp etc) in Dictionary are not properly handled. > It means that URIs are treated like a regular search phrase, which is > not really useful for `dictionary-search' (since most will not return > any results) and no default mechanism is available to follow such URIs. > > Steps: > > 1) emacs -q (master "6b0179f7908c658342d1e642e5444e3d2e1cd997") > > 2) Run `dictionary-search' with some search word whose results contains > URIs in dict.org, for example: > > M-x dictionary-search RET emacs RET > M-x dictionary-search RET fsf RET > M-x dictionary-search RET w3c RET > M-x dictionary-search RET python RET > M-x dictionary-search RET ruby RET > > Actual result: URIs are treated like a regular search phrase, in which > RET will execute `dictionary-new-search' will not find any results. Sorry, I'm not following. I tried "emacs", "fsf", and "w3c", and I seem to get reasonable results. For example, here's what I see for "w3c": [Back] [Search definition] [Matching words] [Quit] [Select dictionary] [Select match strategy] 2 definitions found From V.E.R.A. -- Virtual Entity of Relevant Acronyms (February 2016) [vera]: W3C World Wide Web Consortium (WWW, org.) From The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (30 December 2018) [foldoc]: World Wide Web Consortium W3C W3 Consortium (W3C) The main standards body for the web. W3C works with the global community to establish international standards for client and server protocols that enable on-line commerce and communications on the Internet. It also produces reference software. W3C was created by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) on 25 October 1994. Netscape Communications Corporation was a founding member. The Consortium is run by MIT LCS and INRIA, in collaboration with CERN where the web originated. W3C is funded by industrial members but its products are freely available to all. The director is Tim Berners-Lee who invented the web at the Center for European Particle Research (CERN). (http://w3.org/). (1996-11-03) What exactly is wrong with that? What am I missing? And how is handling of URIs related to this? > Compare with EWW behavior: > > 1) emacs -q (master "6b0179f7908c658342d1e642e5444e3d2e1cd997" > > 2) M-x eww RET > > 3) Search for some search word whose results contains URIs, for example: Search how? what do you type at the prompt of "M-x eww"? And what do you type afterwards to search for some word? Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 27 02:20:22 2022 Received: (at 59448) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Nov 2022 07:20:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41997 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ozBxe-0007Oh-DD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 02:20:22 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46404) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ozBxc-0007OZ-94 for 59448@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 02:20:20 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ozBxV-0001ET-PE; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 02:20:13 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=bke0ETutzqqHX1ND+6tZ1a8sFF3ATt2gb8742+xPRrg=; b=OE5RiAkQK2q8 zbkLQdiwAKXEpenYReKfy14EzrrUmhxn41gc2JqSsXoqP5g2AaTQTd7z5YLUnMreuxqBGM0Jfo8HM 3oCANjpG2Y8ZBV0/3rs0Ixp2IC2XunNbw0HOSqngNT4WsZ4nj7l1rESs6bE1YPi1T4+Bnh10Z5i9/ Wwc19+OOquAi2gvogb7NzQpHn4Wvaizd2ayM26UdyCnbvgmkWEGlzOpRVRFMVH39OvIUjsvpjoBuJ PFGeh3aeV4FIDuFee/nLPGejHKkWX4InlsoUEBcd5mL0UCv0s/q+K0u5LZAXkjYe1VnJtM68dYL96 Q1SPYKA9ogTBojFGInCtqA==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ozBxU-0006py-Al; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 02:20:13 -0500 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2022 09:20:39 +0200 Message-Id: <83a64crhh4.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Gabriel In-Reply-To: (message from Gabriel on Tue, 22 Nov 2022 18:11:29 -0300) Subject: Re: bug#59448: 29.0.50; URIs in Dictionary are not properly handled References: <86y1s3bjn8.fsf@mail.linkov.net> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59448 Cc: 59448@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Ping! Could you please respond to the questions I had in https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=59448#14? Thanks. 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envelope-from=gabriel376@hotmail.com; helo=NAM10-BN7-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com X-Spam_score_int: 1 X-Spam_score: 0.1 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URI_DOTEDU=1.999 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) Eli Zaretskii writes: > > Sorry, I'm not following. I tried "emacs", "fsf", and "w3c", and I seem to > get reasonable results. For example, here's what I see for "w3c": > > What exactly is wrong with that? What am I missing? And how is handling of > URIs related to this? > The results from dictionary are OK, the issue is how URIs are interpreted. For example, "M-x dictionary-search fsf" will bring the correct results and will transform all "keywords" (e.g.: "GNU", "free software", "Richard Stallman", "Emacs" etc) into `dictionary-link-button'. By pressing RET on these buttons, a `dictionary-new-search' will be executed, and new correct results will be displayed. So far so good. However, URIs (e.g.: "http://cs.pdx.edu/~trent/gnu/", "http://delorie.com/gnu/" etc) will also be treated as "keywords", creating `dictionary-link-button'. By pressing RET on these buttons, a `dictionary-new-search' will be executed, and no results will be found (because there are not results for "http://cs.pdx.edu/~trent/gnu/"). If we open the dictionary result page for "fsf" in any browser (e.g.: Firefox, EWW etc), clicking on "keywords" (e.g.: "GNU", "free software", "Richard Stallman", "Emacs" etc) will display a new dictionary result page and clicking on URIs (e.g.: "http://cs.pdx.edu/~trent/gnu/", "http://delorie.com/gnu/" etc) will open the URI. The intention of this bug report is to discuss the possibility of enhancing the default behavior of dictionary to property identify and handle URIs (i.e., to not treat URIs as ordinary dictionary keywords). See previous threads for more details. Let me know if you need additional information. --- Gabriel From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 27 04:44:44 2022 Received: (at 59448) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Nov 2022 09:44:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42110 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ozEDL-0000Bu-Tf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 04:44:44 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37192) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ozEDH-0000Bm-IB for 59448@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 04:44:42 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ozEDB-0003hZ-Jh; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 04:44:33 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=mK90gcIo9f6LfRiVp1muN9vHtyRYmi1meXv8j08HJX0=; b=Ay6PZATer1MT ETSVGHvheGpgR2Sty7V8JdL0Lc8BhTnGddOaHM9n1hg0moF5RPiKAPCHG8lqTkq/lMtuhhug/Ot+n mYWj5fq5+oBxZqGiTDWZT7xGUS2wS691+4zFTdP+yabhzvi7Li9kr87CmPYrtcC9+lUz75gbEA44B 11dBWhz6e4UDy/f8HFdqopnIk0N3fpzOle19LnlCWKWWOT66mOyfZTDdUfMG5nKGV7BoLco/rKG1d Ed3RkGRrWx2SVP0jGq56kh7NbceDaevSxN5uzIL7d8+2/r5EdrSHOXApG0cbTfHdSxg35+mzwHik9 6vhksE87UIb68tjgMK+/1A==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ozEDB-0007DN-20; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 04:44:33 -0500 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2022 11:45:00 +0200 Message-Id: <83wn7gpw83.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Gabriel In-Reply-To: (message from Gabriel on Sun, 27 Nov 2022 05:27:06 -0300) Subject: Re: bug#59448: 29.0.50; URIs in Dictionary are not properly handled References: <83leo0wp77.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59448 Cc: 59448@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Gabriel > Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2022 05:27:06 -0300 > > However, URIs (e.g.: "http://cs.pdx.edu/~trent/gnu/", > "http://delorie.com/gnu/" etc) will also be treated as "keywords", > creating `dictionary-link-button'. By pressing RET on these buttons, a > `dictionary-new-search' will be executed, and no results will be found > (because there are not results for "http://cs.pdx.edu/~trent/gnu/"). > > If we open the dictionary result page for "fsf" in any browser (e.g.: > Firefox, EWW etc), clicking on "keywords" (e.g.: "GNU", "free software", > "Richard Stallman", "Emacs" etc) will display a new dictionary result > page and clicking on URIs (e.g.: "http://cs.pdx.edu/~trent/gnu/", > "http://delorie.com/gnu/" etc) will open the URI. > > The intention of this bug report is to discuss the possibility of > enhancing the default behavior of dictionary to property identify and > handle URIs (i.e., to not treat URIs as ordinary dictionary keywords). > See previous threads for more details. OK, thanks. So I think adding discovery of URLs to dictionary.el is the better alternative. Patches are welcome.