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[174.88.189.238]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ez14-20020a05622a4c8e00b0039cd4d87aacsm4249505qtb.15.2022.11.19.13.08.26 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 19 Nov 2022 13:08:26 -0800 (PST) From: Minsoo Choo X-Google-Original-From: Minsoo Choo Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 16:08:24 -0500 Message-Id: <20221119210824.51967-1-minsoochoo0122@proton.me> X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.37.1 (Apple Git-137.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::829; envelope-from=fel1x.mintchoco.development@gmail.com; helo=mail-qt1-x829.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 20 Nov 2022 01:37:52 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) --- INSTALL | 3 +++ 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+) diff --git a/INSTALL b/INSTALL index a093a3644..b4da9524b 100644 --- a/INSTALL +++ b/INSTALL @@ -92,6 +92,9 @@ you want to change it or regenerate 'configure' using a newer version of targets like 'make install' and 'make uninstall' work correctly. This target is generally not run by end users. +On macOS, users should not use the default perl, but manually install +it from https://www.perl.org/get.html. + Compilers and Options ===================== base-commit: 63216e554ffcc7ae2fb451fcc89c582dca20088e -- 2.37.1 (Apple Git-137.1) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 21 16:39:22 2022 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Nov 2022 21:39:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49019 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oxEVe-0007bM-DF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 16:39:22 -0500 Received: from freefriends.org ([96.88.95.60]:47252) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oxEVb-0007bD-IA for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 16:39:20 -0500 X-Envelope-From: karl@freefriends.org X-Envelope-To: Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 2ALLdH7c023265 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 14:39:18 -0700 Received: (from apache@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 2ALLdHtG023264; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 14:39:17 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 14:39:17 -0700 Message-Id: <202211212139.2ALLdHtG023264@freefriends.org> From: Karl Berry To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) reassign 59406 autoconf From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:52:49 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#59406: [Update install instruction for macOS] Update install instruction for macOS References: <20221119210824.51967-1-minsoochoo0122@proton.me> Resent-From: Karl Berry Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-autoconf@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 22:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59406 X-GNU-PR-Package: autoconf X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: fel1x.mintchoco.development@gmail.com Cc: minsoochoo0122@proton.me, 59406@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 59406-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59406.16690680597381 (code B ref 59406); Mon, 21 Nov 2022 22:01:02 +0000 Received: (at 59406) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Nov 2022 22:00:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49035 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oxEqY-0001uz-Mn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 17:00:59 -0500 Received: from freefriends.org ([96.88.95.60]:47630) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oxEqW-0001ur-VR for 59406@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 17:00:57 -0500 X-Envelope-From: karl@freefriends.org Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 2ALM0t5h026562 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 21 Nov 2022 15:00:56 -0700 Received: (from apache@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 2ALM0s5O026561; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 15:00:54 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 15:00:54 -0700 Message-Id: <202211212200.2ALM0s5O026561@freefriends.org> From: Karl Berry In-Reply-To: <20221119210824.51967-1-minsoochoo0122@proton.me> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) --- a/INSTALL +++ b/INSTALL +On macOS, users should not use the default perl, but manually install +it from https://www.perl.org/get.html. Thanks for the suggestion. I have a couple comments: 1) INSTALL is maintained in Autoconf, not Automake. I'll try to redirect the bug. 2) Why? I know plenty of people using the mac perl ok for various things. It is a big barrier to install a new perl. Not something to recommend lightly. 3) Even if needed, in general, I feel doubtful that such a blanket and time-sensitive statement should be made in INSTALL. I see INSTALL still contains a couple of notes on "Particular systems", though two are hardly used any more as far as I know (HP-UX and OSF/1), and the other tidbits feel pretty old also. As a matter of practical usefulness, I feel like INSTALL is better off being about system-independent configuration, leaving system information for web pages or other places that aren't so static. But it's not up to me. 4) Notwithstanding all the above, at the very least, I think any such statement should say something specific about how the default perl fails. Anyway, passing over to autoconf ... --best, karl.