GNU bug report logs - #59403
29.0.50; Variable with value starting with dash "-" fails to create

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Milan Zimmermann <milan.zimmermann <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 29.0.50; Variable with value starting with dash "-" fails to create
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2022 01:08:17 -0500

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Actual:

~/dev $ export a="-anything"
~/dev $ echo $a
echo: unrecognized option -a
~/dev/ $ echo "$a"
echo: unrecognized option -a

Expected:

~/dev $ export a="-anything"
~/dev $ echo $a
-anything
~/dev/ $ echo "$a"
-anything





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Message #8 received at 59403 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com>
To: Milan Zimmermann <milan.zimmermann <at> gmail.com>, 59403 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#59403: 29.0.50; Variable with value starting with dash "-"
 fails to create
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 22:50:18 -0800

On 11/19/2022 10:08 PM, Milan Zimmermann wrote:
> Actual:
> 
> ~/dev $ export a="-anything"
> ~/dev $ echo $a
> echo: unrecognized option -a
> ~/dev/ $ echo "$a"
> echo: unrecognized option -a
> 
> Expected:
> 
> ~/dev $ export a="-anything"
> ~/dev $ echo $a
> -anything
> ~/dev/ $ echo "$a"
> -anything
[snip]
> Major mode: Eshell

Eshell's 'echo' command works somewhat different from other shells (in 
more ways than just this). The Eshell way to spell this is:

  ~ $ echo -- $a
  -anything

(Maybe this could be a feature enhancement for Eshell's echo, but "--" 
is the usual way to do this sort of thing with other commands, at least 
these days. Arguably, this makes Eshell's echo better, since it's more 
consistent with those other commands... at the expense of being less 
consistent with other implementations of echo.)

Message #11 received at 59403 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Milan Zimmermann <milan.zimmermann <at> gmail.com>
To: 59403 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: GNU bug report logs - #59403 29.0.50; Variable with value starting
 with dash "-" fails to create
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 03:50:27 -0500

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Thanks for your explanation; I experimented with it more and agree with the
reasoning - not a bug

Please go ahead and close the bug or what status you find appropriate - I
do not think I can change status.

Regards,
Milan Zimmermann

PS: I have one or two things around variables that I could see in the
feature vs bug realm. Should those be reported, or first checked on an
appropriate forum (what would such a forum be?)

Thanks

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Message #18 received at 59403-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com>
To: Milan Zimmermann <milan.zimmermann <at> gmail.com>, 59403-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#59403: GNU bug report logs - #59403 29.0.50; Variable with
 value starting with dash "-" fails to create
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 10:03:10 -0800

On 11/21/2022 12:50 AM, Milan Zimmermann wrote:
> Thanks for your explanation; I experimented with it more and agree with 
> the reasoning - not a bug
> 
> Please go ahead and close the bug or what status you find appropriate - 
> I do not think I can change status.

Thanks, closing.

I'm not sure if there's a special permission required, but if you add 
"-done" to the local part of the debbugs email address when replying 
(see this message for an example), it should close the bug.

> PS: I have one or two things around variables that I could see in the 
> feature vs bug realm. Should those be reported, or first checked on an 
> appropriate forum (what would such a forum be?)

I'd recommend emacs-devel <at> gnu.org if you'd like to discuss things with a 
wider audience first. Otherwise, both features and bugs can go in 
bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org, I'd say.

Message #21 received at 59403-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Milan Zimmermann <milan.zimmermann <at> gmail.com>
To: Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 59403-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#59403: GNU bug report logs - #59403 29.0.50; Variable with
 value starting with dash "-" fails to create
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 21:09:07 -0500

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Thanks for both the pointer to bug#-done to close the issue, and for the
discussion list  emacs-devel <at> gnu.org pointer.



On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 1:03 PM Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> On 11/21/2022 12:50 AM, Milan Zimmermann wrote:
> > Thanks for your explanation; I experimented with it more and agree with
> > the reasoning - not a bug
> >
> > Please go ahead and close the bug or what status you find appropriate -
> > I do not think I can change status.
>
> Thanks, closing.
>
> I'm not sure if there's a special permission required, but if you add
> "-done" to the local part of the debbugs email address when replying
> (see this message for an example), it should close the bug.
>
> > PS: I have one or two things around variables that I could see in the
> > feature vs bug realm. Should those be reported, or first checked on an
> > appropriate forum (what would such a forum be?)
>
> I'd recommend emacs-devel <at> gnu.org if you'd like to discuss things with a
> wider audience first. Otherwise, both features and bugs can go in
> bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org, I'd say.
>
>

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