From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:18:10 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#59377 <59377@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#59377 <59377@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 29.0.50; Sticky frame parameter has no effect Reply-To: bug#59377 <59377@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2025 18:18:10 +0000 retitle 59377 29.0.50; Sticky frame parameter has no effect reassign 59377 emacs submitter 59377 Michael Heerdegen severity 59377 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Nov 19 00:29:50 2022 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2022 05:29:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38749 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1owGQI-0003TB-H4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 00:29:50 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:52424) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1owGQD-0003T1-Nf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 00:29:48 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1owGQD-0001JV-G2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 00:29:45 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.12]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1owGQB-0006rC-QI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 00:29:45 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=s29768273; t=1668835781; bh=i3005Ka+SFtueS6zvB7oHngFKesaSNWHH4J1fjF3/L8=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Subject:Date; b=gdTFGwX+m9wf7pPWaMvp3C9Xj2lDhNa3ewNMdWRh5KLb/+qKKiK9iHuWkHMNsZj1i GTXKaVH7OtDaLYGxyFJaDnZWXVs1eSH/2YGc29FL4wxQHqThoGIXi9N3UX7CYOSoXm oKprI2yh1tAMQaIkeIIqQBg3wZCacsqaqMs1NafvqksyCv2auEiyZKcUbKrds03E9m Bo6mZUN0pLWqUDX2Dwc8NmSblAoa1i/WHcjXLEnb7/VKmP5cRpcAyQgsAvnOHtbG+H BrSW1EsV02m5hUfQP9Cm4x4aIP9CnPzMWwTQvnAlOSCvwMWznHA+YbWigpC4L0osdq D2+Nl40CL4t2w== X-UI-Sender-Class: 814a7b36-bfc1-4dae-8640-3722d8ec6cd6 Received: from drachen.dragon ([88.66.71.129]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb106 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MY5bT-1oQY8G0MLF-00Yd0W for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 06:29:41 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 29.0.50; Sticky frame parameter has no effect Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 06:29:40 +0100 Message-ID: <87r0xzikaj.fsf@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:oRoqkjmFs93Y5r1q6TP0kaJYKqbDl6HtxcYznXwFyfUfEISuk/7 swzdAfY6Az+6i1Enwb+4vXFi0szfuwKwEd3W4LAM459wYQgRt5TCFaoGVaxM+YnDPu9WU7E Ci/owtlMavNF5iGzwBXOSkbFMDi+14ph5PH0GSr+fTPYzNhC8jX4i1sedO2NL82laKaW43K zHpbZFJpR08Nz3yPkj2Wg== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:b5YbK3eYCgc=;IutQW+lPy+hwZOxy8q/0+b3ftCB IzkNsWSRQJfTAAy2UuCUww2FeZMXbLwfYh4ktikGPkYlVeBnh8Rl1HHo8zOh8xuIwRpjWcLto QnKKLWozxqXyqJkX8Z3iMpbV+Yb6/nt3wt3zsyaBZ/Ls8C2Do6IJ1SfpRWAvcYNJT/89CMs3H TUA5u95yUWfXU3tSQU4zLzQAxzmnGmYXahHJXRmmu+ds9NgNsKNHItYPNowSlHBY6rfKSySQl Y4dkrwxkib0TVu7jDCt9rDG7DItXDzNmhGN7RiTzxDtgwYjBtW1camk/GnQ5Pt7YLjYxbIF0s EAurA+V06kDUVGcgGh0XjuNp359qJoDz0G1bmyvdqQCjYv7Sv2UFg2xi3oC/U1plEVmjqaTGi E5/4cTg83MhYNO+og3ZfnT+TD5+3wV0jmjT7IA9ks3p4xJdXq/eTsIsWoMoSO5aFmxTnm95kg VXCiFTdMqBU37KIO4OvO8VkUnH2LbeJPC9s0ewBlUOlFpBcDQf8H9dKLBrznv8ScxWM5jJos6 Ql/hWGvmNoJx4yUyAdFthO/L+T8Qshp7E/lX2z+aTkzMpDSvcE7S2LmuT7RV2EQ3/gWb1nz15 biiaYOLLXwrl9l5FmgX4Y8ae5H3cHXoiOjz6bfsieDMW9nNm9qUQA29uvq1zgM/zpznXMmV91 2RcTvolARQ66xR8vfyOXdHK2rjEpW73Vt9+EeRzFGmq3STbalW40ytuo5WOVpBnzORRWoRFDh 72PD+wgmESaviDJGH2mEjFX6XORZSM4UuPaotuvbHERPnxmAUVrnIfLPKmnu+LhTqSz7/P5/t PbzCWCSzAUEWpzCORcOKnDehFh8vAm22EqzHdkKOxL8WZxC4qK3cWOvOftLGjZpCZPRbPrpi/ iDLvH3T3eEW06jmH7s3LVrUy9Kz8VCdTIngZW3QRfmVhfqY/9CE4GCRf6QObskkAll9FiraK/ YhEgJkt8sgnY9NvngYwgN1a9fzo= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.17.12; envelope-from=michael_heerdegen@web.de; helo=mout.web.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Hello, Debian and Openbox on X here. When I set the `sticky` frame parameter of a frame to non-nil, like in (display-buffer (get-buffer-create "Test") `(display-buffer-pop-up-frame ( pop-up-frame-parameters (sticky . t) (minibuffer . nil)))) there is no effect - the frame is only displayed on the current virtual desktop. Same when I explicitly set the frame parameter of an existing frame, e.g. with (set-frame-parameter nil 'sticky t) I would have expected that this works with Openbox. TIA, Michael. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 0c2ca628f9529dbc90649037548c2b7f; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 07:09:36 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Michael Heerdegen Subject: Re: bug#59377: 29.0.50; Sticky frame parameter has no effect In-Reply-To: <87r0xzikaj.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Sat, 19 Nov 2022 06:29:40 +0100") References: <87r0xzikaj.fsf@web.de> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 15:09:31 +0800 Message-ID: <87sfifa09g.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20863 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 982 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59377 Cc: 59377@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Heerdegen writes: > Hello, > > Debian and Openbox on X here. > > When I set the `sticky` frame parameter of a frame to non-nil, like in > > (display-buffer (get-buffer-create "Test") > `(display-buffer-pop-up-frame > ( pop-up-frame-parameters > (sticky . t) (minibuffer . nil)))) > > there is no effect - the frame is only displayed on the current virtual > desktop. Same when I explicitly set the frame parameter of an existing > frame, e.g. with > > (set-frame-parameter nil 'sticky t) > > I would have expected that this works with Openbox. > > TIA, > > Michael. Thanks. Can you please do the following? First, run "xdpyinfo". Look for the screen you are running Emacs on, and its root window. Then, type "xprop -id ", and send the output of that command. Second, run "xprop", click on Emacs after you set the `sticky' parameter, and send its output here. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 20 01:25:36 2022 Received: (at 59377) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2022 06:25:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42185 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1owdln-00089u-Bm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2022 01:25:35 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.11]:38937) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1owdlh-00089d-O1 for 59377@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2022 01:25:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=s29768273; t=1668925521; bh=OJLRB9fI6FlKQPkKGWl/f0rKQuhIxoHnIjZdeqWCwtg=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=FLq3GqKClDTBN8g/WGiNMf5wtdmUH1+wcTVs+NrgGpElSgdRWjFMLBRCtKbMTiX19 rAb6/8riWYwWMnf/Ef/MWKtTrOEpVqjm0VahdxPhw1eVA635yV0cg2cu5aSXvy8SyO BmOhelUmBlqL9GMSGlbHees/zN+0DyfE8M2te+qAlRjytOAGKdLXynGUFbp96sfvDY /tLR90C2E/Q/IuDtZJTtRjdFqDBP42Dy/b2wSyCCfyVd4Y+074cZM4N8AWDrKPhT/b OLaQRSb/1uzblSPMHYyxuTqvXTka59a4LPtgn5uB01mg/BXmfRcu0u+EtTxMOrqjF6 7PpMiNM8gK0XQ== X-UI-Sender-Class: 814a7b36-bfc1-4dae-8640-3722d8ec6cd6 Received: from drachen.dragon ([88.66.71.129]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb106 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MW9vU-1oQAWI3vNS-00XnTv; Sun, 20 Nov 2022 07:25:21 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen To: Po Lu Subject: Re: bug#59377: 29.0.50; Sticky frame parameter has no effect In-Reply-To: <87sfifa09g.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Sat, 19 Nov 2022 15:09:31 +0800") References: <87r0xzikaj.fsf@web.de> <87sfifa09g.fsf@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2022 07:25:18 +0100 Message-ID: <87fseexhv5.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:/sCuC+kJoVG1c+zAiHPtB6PxjR+IAmKWkXzCptY/r/7Y7QfW4sg dvT9At+tuPjGcD5zQ1YobTdTApM8G2ZQClR4ZkedFTksg8M4abRtPcM1BK5IIBn4fgNiJvX 3J6vFh6J/cxbD25U3G1XaPHnG2P/XsFkwai+cdEo/e5ZcsrOKlbjqt8NFQIg3Upy8+oPh3G /0ZbkmjN/4u8POHlTbpFQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:L/mrk4iFMag=;1Q/zmDbFe3/cVr+ZkfRHL7Pmu7e FirXGpG5x0b7dt0YEmjPVQddW4TDMCmkN+MOUTCj2HpqFDnuz/IrpCbrzp8lSNMYDqkzv3sCS wrAXlQHCMQygiAZMxLQDgzfZPKVKUl3Tl64Yma3pYTtq6DHwEhCmSoyP6KuIuEGlf3hOfhiKL YccGOJ/rD69jOOcqYJRm4yBWu4z/ZQrvpqvrk2sjeClxs6DloBdkKv8ITwM7E9+v9vDARywTW CinywERlReG/y2i3FTISz0v3K+Cz6bPuqWu/T4gLhHl+WVd5Bcrvply3JSbeFbNKFsetsOobU PlFLdOwIlhemioVfx94w0m88Lomtj4CbXA4jcCBm0QqLex1B5m6hiMrEYf/9Z7GgYKvSEwpJo ZS1UuB2Lk+KZBJeMA1LddvWMhI6MpvbfPuRCV7kH+iKIQfe1VqmksHa6AmDVFgpuDPs7uZy2m l8Z13c92huXPdx6Z0TvgtG27lW/THCaMsZjIN97xVXS5HqEzYobTEgpbReNmN1tclCD9TBZ/2 Ih2j5iyu7pM4MYjtqr9JnVbupCaa3ZXN16COw2a3XadFz7ANiHc2S8DpJwLb0aMdkw9AFpIMP 0QuMldQJgKwhzBRGAkJFQRRF7MRLS5krOmTmjOax0k6xflL2ceqJ0uYdMfomhxsaK/dmBf+SZ A3iM6ANsGz0QCIrulRUnzexS7NYLJiRO+aaXjwTn5SxHwcD0lvUmqUlzeL4gIrezRlzDbCmOE lPJsmYFNd6pFg1m7xepGI3Agx4udpodpJhYEl/4+IsR5LGn41LalDtDQTzjYo9kxAdcvS4KmI oET0PKLp4SjdKR0/+VZlLCaZ4o7S0Q4qEGcgP5fMpi4e/cw3WP+23KFFp8qi74auXYM6wVhnq u/h/Jkjgdgm7DOMcaNNZj2TXHlf+Nmws+gSx5t/0lx+IiSac4fwTQeb27FHhVSzxMQAwvR63Z ylQqsw== X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59377 Cc: 59377@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Po Lu writes: > Can you please do the following? See the attached file. --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=sticky-x.txt Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable bash-5.1:micha:~$ xprop -id 0x16d XFree86_DDC_EDID1_RAWDATA(INTEGER) =3D 0, -1, -1, -1, -1, -1, -1, 0, 30, 10= 9, -2, 86, 3, -91, 0, 0, 5, 20, 1, 3, 106, 48, 27, 120, -22, -82, -59, -94,= 87, 74, -100, 37, 18, 80, 84, -91, 75, 0, -77, 0, -127, -128, 113, 79, -12= 7, -49, -127, 79, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 26, 54, -128, -96, 112, 56, 31, 64, 48,= 32, 37, 0, -35, 13, 17, 0, 0, 26, 2, 58, -128, 24, 113, 56, 45, 64, 88, 44= , 69, 0, -35, 13, 17, 0, 0, 30, 0, 0, 0, -3, 0, 56, 75, 30, 83, 15, 0, 10, = 32, 32, 32, 32, 32, 32, 0, 0, 0, -4, 0, 87, 50, 50, 52, 51, 10, 32, 32, 32,= 32, 32, 32, 32, 0, -11 ESETROOT_PMAP_ID(PIXMAP): pixmap id # 0x4600001 _XROOTPMAP_ID(PIXMAP): pixmap id # 0x4600001 _NET_DESKTOP_LAYOUT(CARDINAL) =3D 0, 0, 4, 0 _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW(WINDOW): window id # 0x2200401 PULSE_COOKIE(STRING) =3D "d8fcb18b6bd0b8a725c82abc74aa1f70e8f4ebefef314e4e3= de75f25461c124f8ccc58d1a6c2a80d8afda9eb095a5ed3d45fd3be9d8c53410bc28bfacd91= 3f482abb2a000b593f6f947621d3434ee29b911c0728b113f5a8d77e4678543fc84b47d30f1= 74f26c88268a3e81e5ed82961d4657d113d7063a48fca5ef173f7c7af2df31723d44dc5bbfc= da38b5493fb4e0a377557706d5b77455366d557779e0b75e23311e8911e54213b8b8cd68455= c70c72dbed3532387c2f6727804874e9cfea68a32a3d4ba886fcb482244f53dedbe251f4c22= c3219d063b373ca789d8e2d7dcd08388561d62d4cf32fd173c2368fae475b1159e1bf8e6cdb= 7f6ceaf05dc44" PULSE_SERVER(STRING) =3D "{83b4b24943333cae2b8a8f4e505c74f8}unix:/run/user/= 1000/pulse/native" PULSE_ID(STRING) =3D "1000@83b4b24943333cae2b8a8f4e505c74f8/1046" GDK_VISUALS(INTEGER) =3D 288, 355 RESOURCE_MANAGER(STRING) =3D "XTerm*Font:\t10x20\nXTerm*metaSendsEscape:\tt= rue\nXTerm*background:\tblack\nXTerm*foreground:\twhite\n" _NET_CLIENT_LIST(WINDOW): window id # 0xa00003, 0xa00007, 0xa0000d, 0xa0001= 2, 0xa00016, 0x3000002, 0x400002c, 0x220013a, 0x2200401 _NET_SHOWING_DESKTOP(CARDINAL) =3D 0 _NET_CURRENT_DESKTOP(CARDINAL) =3D 0 _NET_DESKTOP_NAMES(UTF8_STRING) =3D "desktop 1", "desktop 2", "desktop 3", = "desktop 4", "desktop 5", "desktop 6", "desktop 7", "desktop 8", "desktop 9= ", "desktop 10", "desktop 11", "desktop 12", "desktop 13", "desktop 14", "d= esktop 15", "desktop 16", "desktop 17", "desktop 18", "desktop 19", "deskto= p 20", "desktop 21", "desktop 22", "desktop 23", "desktop 24", "desktop 25"= , "desktop 26", "desktop 27", "desktop 28", "desktop 29", "desktop 30", "de= sktop 31", "desktop 32", "desktop 33", "desktop 34", "desktop 35", "desktop= 36", "desktop 37", "desktop 38", "desktop 39", "desktop 40" _NET_WORKAREA(CARDINAL) =3D 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828,= 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 10= 80, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080,= 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0,= 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0,= 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 18= 28, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828,= 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 10= 80, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080,= 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080, 0, 0, 1828, 1080 _NET_DESKTOP_VIEWPORT(CARDINAL) =3D 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, = 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, = 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, = 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 _NET_NUMBER_OF_DESKTOPS(CARDINAL) =3D 40 _NET_DESKTOP_GEOMETRY(CARDINAL) =3D 1920, 1080 _NET_CLIENT_LIST_STACKING(WINDOW): window id # 0x3000002, 0x400002c, 0x2200= 13a, 0x2200401, 0xa00003, 0xa00007, 0xa0000d, 0xa00012, 0xa00016 _OB_THEME(UTF8_STRING) =3D "Clearlooks" _OB_VERSION(UTF8_STRING) =3D "3.6.1" _NET_SUPPORTED(ATOM) =3D _NET_SUPPORTING_WM_CHECK, _NET_WM_FULL_PLACEMENT, = _NET_CURRENT_DESKTOP, _NET_NUMBER_OF_DESKTOPS, _NET_DESKTOP_GEOMETRY, _NET_= DESKTOP_VIEWPORT, _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW, _NET_WORKAREA, _NET_CLIENT_LIST, _NET= _CLIENT_LIST_STACKING, _NET_DESKTOP_NAMES, _NET_CLOSE_WINDOW, _NET_DESKTOP_= LAYOUT, _NET_SHOWING_DESKTOP, _NET_WM_NAME, _NET_WM_VISIBLE_NAME, _NET_WM_I= CON_NAME, _NET_WM_VISIBLE_ICON_NAME, _NET_WM_DESKTOP, _NET_WM_STRUT, _NET_W= M_STRUT_PARTIAL, _NET_WM_ICON, _NET_WM_ICON_GEOMETRY, _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE, = _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_DESKTOP, _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_DOCK, _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_= TOOLBAR, _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_MENU, _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_UTILITY, _NET_WM_WIN= DOW_TYPE_SPLASH, _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_DIALOG, _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_NORMAL, _N= ET_WM_ALLOWED_ACTIONS, _NET_WM_WINDOW_OPACITY, _NET_WM_ACTION_MOVE, _NET_WM= _ACTION_RESIZE, _NET_WM_ACTION_MINIMIZE, _NET_WM_ACTION_SHADE, _NET_WM_ACTI= ON_MAXIMIZE_HORZ, _NET_WM_ACTION_MAXIMIZE_VERT, _NET_WM_ACTION_FULLSCREEN, = _NET_WM_ACTION_CHANGE_DESKTOP, _NET_WM_ACTION_CLOSE, _NET_WM_ACTION_ABOVE, = _NET_WM_ACTION_BELOW, _NET_WM_STATE, _NET_WM_STATE_MODAL, _NET_WM_STATE_MAX= IMIZED_VERT, _NET_WM_STATE_MAXIMIZED_HORZ, _NET_WM_STATE_SHADED, _NET_WM_ST= ATE_SKIP_TASKBAR, _NET_WM_STATE_SKIP_PAGER, _NET_WM_STATE_HIDDEN, _NET_WM_S= TATE_FULLSCREEN, _NET_WM_STATE_ABOVE, _NET_WM_STATE_BELOW, _NET_WM_STATE_DE= MANDS_ATTENTION, _NET_MOVERESIZE_WINDOW, _NET_WM_MOVERESIZE, _NET_WM_USER_T= IME, _NET_FRAME_EXTENTS, _NET_REQUEST_FRAME_EXTENTS, _NET_RESTACK_WINDOW, _= NET_STARTUP_ID, _NET_WM_SYNC_REQUEST, _NET_WM_SYNC_REQUEST_COUNTER, _NET_WM= _PID, _NET_WM_PING, _KDE_WM_CHANGE_STATE, _KDE_NET_WM_FRAME_STRUT, _KDE_NET= _WM_WINDOW_TYPE_OVERRIDE, _OB_WM_ACTION_UNDECORATE, _OB_WM_STATE_UNDECORATE= D, _OPENBOX_PID, _OB_THEME, _OB_CONFIG_FILE, _OB_CONTROL, _OB_VERSION, _OB_= APP_ROLE, _OB_APP_TITLE, _OB_APP_NAME, _OB_APP_CLASS, _OB_APP_GROUP_NAME, _= OB_APP_GROUP_CLASS, _OB_APP_TYPE _NET_SUPPORTING_WM_CHECK(WINDOW): window id # 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to use for icon: 0x2200141 bitmap id # of mask for icon: 0x2200143 WM_CLASS(STRING) =3D "emacs", "Emacs" bash-5.1:micha:~$=20 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain When I mark the frame (X window) with "Send to desktop -> All desktops" in Openbox, then I see _NET_WM_DESKTOP(CARDINAL) = 4294967295 instead of _NET_WM_DESKTOP(CARDINAL) = 0 - just in case this is also relevant. 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Content preview: Michael Heerdegen writes: > _NET_SUPPORTED(ATOM) = _NET_SUPPORTING_WM_CHECK, _NET_WM_FULL_PLACEMENT, _NET_CURRENT_DESKTOP, _NET_NUMBER_OF_DESKTOPS, _NET_DESKTOP_GEOMETRY, _NET_DESKTOP_VIEWPORT, _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW, _NET_WORKARE [...] Content analysis details: (1.2 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [66.163.186.204 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (luangruo[at]yahoo.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.2 UPPERCASE_75_100 message body is 75-100% uppercase X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59377 Cc: 59377@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) Michael Heerdegen writes: > _NET_SUPPORTED(ATOM) =3D _NET_SUPPORTING_WM_CHECK, _NET_WM_FULL_PLACEMENT= , _NET_CURRENT_DESKTOP, _NET_NUMBER_OF_DESKTOPS, _NET_DESKTOP_GEOMETRY, _NE= T_DESKTOP_VIEWPORT, _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW, _NET_WORKAREA, _NET_CLIENT_LIST, _N= ET_CLIENT_LIST_STACKING, _NET_DESKTOP_NAMES, _NET_CLOSE_WINDOW, _NET_DESKTO= P_LAYOUT, _NET_SHOWING_DESKTOP, _NET_WM_NAME, _NET_WM_VISIBLE_NAME, _NET_WM= _ICON_NAME, _NET_WM_VISIBLE_ICON_NAME, _NET_WM_DESKTOP, _NET_WM_STRUT, _NET= _WM_STRUT_PARTIAL, _NET_WM_ICON, _NET_WM_ICON_GEOMETRY, _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE= , _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_DESKTOP, _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_DOCK, _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYP= E_TOOLBAR, _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_MENU, _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_UTILITY, _NET_WM_W= INDOW_TYPE_SPLASH, _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_DIALOG, _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_NORMAL, = _NET_WM_ALLOWED_ACTIONS, _NET_WM_WINDOW_OPACITY, _NET_WM_ACTION_MOVE, _NET_= WM_ACTION_RESIZE, _NET_WM_ACTION_MINIMIZE, _NET_WM_ACTION_SHADE, _NET_WM_AC= TION_MAXIMIZE_HORZ, _NET_WM_ACTION_MAXIMIZE_VERT, _NET_WM_ACTION_FULLSCREEN= , _NET_WM_ACTION_CHANGE_DESKTOP, _NET_WM_ACTION_CLOSE, _NET_WM_ACTION_ABOVE= , _NET_WM_ACTION_BELOW, _NET_WM_STATE, _NET_WM_STATE_MODAL, _NET_WM_STATE_M= AXIMIZED_VERT, _NET_WM_STATE_MAXIMIZED_HORZ, _NET_WM_STATE_SHADED, _NET_WM_= STATE_SKIP_TASKBAR, _NET_WM_STATE_SKIP_PAGER, _NET_WM_STATE_HIDDEN, _NET_WM= _STATE_FULLSCREEN, _NET_WM_STATE_ABOVE, _NET_WM_STATE_BELOW, _NET_WM_STATE_= DEMANDS_ATTENTION, _NET_MOVERESIZE_WINDOW, _NET_WM_MOVERESIZE, _NET_WM_USER= _TIME, _NET_FRAME_EXTENTS, _NET_REQUEST_FRAME_EXTENTS, _NET_RESTACK_WINDOW,= _NET_STARTUP_ID, _NET_WM_SYNC_REQUEST, _NET_WM_SYNC_REQUEST_COUNTER, _NET_= WM_PID, _NET_WM_PING, _KDE_WM_CHANGE_STATE, _KDE_NET_WM_FRAME_STRUT, _KDE_N= ET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_OVERRIDE, _OB_WM_ACTION_UNDECORATE, _OB_WM_STATE_UNDECORA= TED, _OPENBOX_PID, _OB_THEME, _OB_CONFIG_FILE, _OB_CONTROL, _OB_VERSION, _O= B_APP_ROLE, _OB_APP_TITLE, _OB_APP_NAME, _OB_APP_CLASS, _OB_APP_GROUP_NAME,= _OB_APP_GROUP_CLASS, _OB_APP_TYPE > _NET_SUPPORTING_WM_CHECK(WINDOW): window id # 0x40020b This means your window manager does not support _NET_WM_STATE_STICKY. Emacs only supports that method of making a frame sticky, and no others. I guess Emacs could be made to send a _NET_WM_DESKTOP with the desktop set to 0xffffffff when the window manager does not support _NET_WM_STATE_STICKY, but it would be a lot of trouble. Since you're trying to make some sort of popup, does the `override-redirect' frame parameter work for you? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 20 02:46:09 2022 Received: (at 59377) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2022 07:46:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42252 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1owf1l-0001xA-1d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2022 02:46:09 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.4]:35109) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1owf1g-0001wH-CK for 59377@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2022 02:46:07 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=s29768273; t=1668930354; bh=tFbEh90QlLx61NzGH/GHu2KPPvh8KFxRLZbTigOmgVU=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=hpXjIbyTg44tZp5wG7ttVa65SUx0g1MZB5Nr8egtdz7uRrrOp/9AAk6Ktrto15Xb2 +DN4BrvPQ95B7oX/WVkH1CVbteVm/w6ztgwLjCsZmrMO4mXkuQzA5R3Ic1XABBL9CX lvsEluDPDWPFhaZP5WnJUplAtJKWg5GS9Ryd8tnmP7b+KHv7S3sg+Soolgl1yClHyR yvAl6R8A15PknV4tTsBwpe4SUiRHEaIejytvLj2LNI2+GCUx9w8Rv5J0nd3hgxBG8g bU+vuYsuZDl/Gf78FF+aey+SaTQXQHxYhhY8176JhyEOfxdSzrUgBvr8cdbWp7Azi6 xdXaXSO/hAcYQ== X-UI-Sender-Class: 814a7b36-bfc1-4dae-8640-3722d8ec6cd6 Received: from drachen.dragon ([88.66.71.129]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb005 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MuFD7-1pCfqG3eLl-00uYff; Sun, 20 Nov 2022 08:45:54 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen To: Po Lu Subject: Re: bug#59377: 29.0.50; Sticky frame parameter has no effect In-Reply-To: <87a64m84lg.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Sun, 20 Nov 2022 15:31:07 +0800") References: <87r0xzikaj.fsf@web.de> <87sfifa09g.fsf@yahoo.com> <87fseexhv5.fsf@web.de> <87a64m84lg.fsf@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2022 08:45:52 +0100 Message-ID: <877czqxe4v.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:RN0NfMS8NXk05SMwOlrJn+joqn9CwdDlsQQ3/5w+cPZhg8RRJTn lBVJbuCe1//7b87cHKdiYPsC/oNRV8iRMYGLdFWYrlawvmMd4s0mo7P71niIiR+QNPwH2FW NPw84ciQ/n7vyjyn/26eoJ5x+nJ+2HdtUxRM4tJYrTti8i/EKrf+dB6wDcKwLqFlJAaVFE5 JkKC3F5nlcyaYBxSgTwEA== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:i3fr9Q8kWlM=;lJmHf65A9f5b3A6As988ucZph9s r3hP97t2Sr3QaUbrVWKsuYQ9R/n5wxpC76xQp7n/XH8vClnZXxCJKSDoXlouAoO3vfuKqM3+J QPN171LZWv4nkfUeWUdH+shrvA1RzrNVe7jSUAE9QSu+emJHSW1KzKin64SyUr5Z7HLeKposT WBXNfrlaxVVNWMZ1BvhL5kww81jrgY8uTWNWylWaR8ugZaEiPlBHAvaf4cBfbgftpcFIKKar1 OFk26TD8l0Lg/AZ/WneMDAaaLMpwyRV20Cg9OPrb1mk4R/GhYsQ8OGLNozgMsRBODJg2ZUqjc u/0gn+TktmxOkiyhL8ROJRKWFCIB/5nTckLY6iBfw3W0PQjCOOiK1Sw9jRZHndZdBf2ekD8f9 0smPL2ONKy3mp8MHv4SjBxiL6W04yTb1biVxzenvxUel/Zez9hxid53Ev+S15Tviqo3pvsNTj 1y2UFfA5mmdhNHMzd/mzsfiGadTjTJm9S74JJ5J6Fo7Er1nnHjZupLWe48oF6TCui8zR3rYec 6KypSYTIzsiucUBc9P/qn/kQ35FSpGLW7cCrX2RO+tuGS5tAsmpGHLc+GFStL5tkh8IAhlNHr 8FIljLAwsp2nqUP49G+WWG8ZmxmbV0TqCy9WUq37/8nSWoY1F30iWMRXFtoFVOciJEoTHPFjS /7JLNm40XSDddMJxxp9GpkdwtB9o69F/44fkyZH5QwXq7f/dyq70uhH59jzZvWi9XgJkygAW3 cFvx0atnHcMwHeFvMc1gW+SYAzW5eatABM2uP3s4xasrcYPSjh7vPvKiN4TCvsTfSMTcRMCCP o0U7y+yhq+EZuCTYGk+Lha8rzsrMRqTxuK/6L5ez1SpqRCqMxMntRk11OA4+VJNdqcyR1RHdj pQiICE4OVUk4fiJWLNOhCWMl9nWVcK2X4YMxQioUAH5Iunr4zJqw5Xyin8ruyAkqF1aI9oCi9 SSUY8dCCOULP7TDHv1q6+LraEnk= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59377 Cc: 59377@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Po Lu writes: > This means your window manager does not support _NET_WM_STATE_STICKY. > Emacs only supports that method of making a frame sticky, and no > others. Shouldn't we have that information in the manual? > I guess Emacs could be made to send a _NET_WM_DESKTOP with the desktop > set to 0xffffffff when the window manager does not support > _NET_WM_STATE_STICKY, but it would be a lot of trouble. Since you're > trying to make some sort of popup, does the `override-redirect' frame > parameter work for you? Hmm - that popup is not specific to Emacs so I would rather try to make it work using `x-send-client-message', even if that works only in openbox (and X...) then. How would the correct `x-send-client-message' call look like? Thanks, Michael. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 30f96ac2a4ba12db21ce6572d832f001; Sun, 20 Nov 2022 09:42:04 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Michael Heerdegen Subject: Re: bug#59377: 29.0.50; Sticky frame parameter has no effect In-Reply-To: <877czqxe4v.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Sun, 20 Nov 2022 08:45:52 +0100") References: <87r0xzikaj.fsf@web.de> <87sfifa09g.fsf@yahoo.com> <87fseexhv5.fsf@web.de> <87a64m84lg.fsf@yahoo.com> <877czqxe4v.fsf@web.de> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2022 17:41:58 +0800 Message-ID: <875yfa7yjd.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20863 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 579 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59377 Cc: 59377@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Heerdegen writes: > Shouldn't we have that information in the manual? No, it is a very low-level detail of X window manager implementations. > Hmm - that popup is not specific to Emacs so I would rather try to make > it work using `x-send-client-message', even if that works only in > openbox (and X...) then. How would the correct `x-send-client-message' > call look like? (x-send-client-message frame 0 frame "_NET_WM_DESKTOP" 32 '(#xffffffff 1)) Bind `x-fast-protocol-requests' around the call for optimal performance. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 20 06:56:37 2022 Received: (at 59377) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2022 11:56:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42526 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1owiw9-0008J0-1a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2022 06:56:37 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.14]:47997) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1owiw6-0008Ik-3O for 59377@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2022 06:56:35 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=s29768273; t=1668945386; bh=aaMFs/E9ilVY7rg5/806KGj+CH+MddtTZAn8P8f/2Sc=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=gEqvbuYNULwFhCHUfkykcvbjXqhpRmSwGQvsMFAcVPaeHT8jU2Az1nU93Jle9hLdQ iQu8AIX5dtT2+k2lAmkMBb361s7ma7bIQxxDWuUL1vYjjEq/ICafbGb7MsNd5GES2I CfeefjOXfItQ0d7dq+MBwa/ShftHloFDF9wTMCLYzsysm+FDl0ZGYpOjKZ2yLdiJcV TjtZFkysRm0yYZDHWPseMU5MtJ9NvLfffOf7LLng5NVx2rKCqNLSMnBP3FSCtKUw5T H1w/jq8ELlKkWuWHTB3eI5vQmJrxM1BB1f4KwcPjvC1IYB4iqzfPCay+1HtbMePiUk rcEbMrNmPJe/Q== X-UI-Sender-Class: 814a7b36-bfc1-4dae-8640-3722d8ec6cd6 Received: from drachen.dragon ([88.66.71.129]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb005 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MhWop-1pRMrK2Tg3-00egfu; Sun, 20 Nov 2022 12:56:25 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen To: Po Lu Subject: Re: bug#59377: 29.0.50; Sticky frame parameter has no effect In-Reply-To: <875yfa7yjd.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Sun, 20 Nov 2022 17:41:58 +0800") References: <87r0xzikaj.fsf@web.de> <87sfifa09g.fsf@yahoo.com> <87fseexhv5.fsf@web.de> <87a64m84lg.fsf@yahoo.com> <877czqxe4v.fsf@web.de> <875yfa7yjd.fsf@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2022 12:56:21 +0100 Message-ID: <8735adyh3u.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Kjja1bDk1cUTyyc4WDbJ4dzfqoCvdanMZfJJk4K9d6pgeZBwAzM qTdZEm8CSWl5QGv+FcaAO9GGAXv6xCR3ZmmIOCndRDUYws0A6edAxVCT+S+jX7xV3NtrTz8 2MMdnXdgAmV20heYPj6iAs+Xgp/zXlfFAhYW/U8rqGPx3H0xfoKeBtmChuXtb7udqysOVjZ NplHQCCB8jToL2uvFSQqg== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:oM2c2hfMXBM=;7NkK9wCrBmwm89ixVB2CFnj3FEE ZG2H+M0yJoGKHmcsAbeoVvta7X2pT6Dzx65r+dnl6drSQI4cdpLoxQn+mERMoD/QbkjCtX2NM gkxTl9Nc8bX0NRno6mE65y9QftgtJHmFrs6xnMBuEuo2Evv4eJChGvFLb6il05zezkyEJtT6O WIT0HPf0AYRcWT2Vw8iq/g42SozFuGUCMihzV3KCaZuioyIwhnhI6GiNFlXJXBxdkFnxUya+E nXUUAedZ8Ep3GdpVl6T1x5tJr3jh6uBAvNHbHXYX3kcxyRWdp6ywLL3pcaRhNR+0pyaxMWZDY ISr99xIeBwlQaSerTpRfE25c3D2RcREj3QTDTboPZANyzs3sDicLJxXwInk/JAVF961Rhgqv8 9/AlP7JSc9czkHUUbjMNRCkuMz0l1UTfWUAeit2BxDXiMMcme959aMqi+bmzj8pzPGKjhC02R bPfIIXfx2tgBmCHDr0glf24wvmnBXp7fob1OKQeDuzGjNH+C757KXyqSgrljLtO1sCyzH2boV SwDfO74IDezDrZ8s4GeIuBW9U3CeAlGuSpFNqE1Ow8/bGK0E2H1AVfrx4z/IXdgbuIjbJFrEY +3U17wrE3Glwq4ql6e1N1SZSIBEw5MrosLq6uu/tIEzXsOneZigZL49LJsqv5DoIjDMtKMd9a PcoNWICC2SC50QMV1ppEbUTnDWOuM7jCZ4Nxpk7EoCSTLAgYIgKnImHjflUuCwXVzbRtd1WRX gcA6mjmXQLqpz/dWgy2i29RBeHq7xEr+asNskP3Le/Yz6kg1kxzfsM0y7wFf5Sikqtd4HVqRx lZIPhJ/hk/O7HLsh30Lq6rd7b1T89wEZUAG7eVwFXOJtRm9ItXi0MzYbm2uholb+jYdTZxLtd LGZPyLthnkcbivS0AM1uYiXeGqyvii2pCh3gpNM9TALtPYLlMUyIyKgEWbyFbQKB5Xj7yczIQ csIqmQ== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59377 Cc: 59377@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Po Lu writes: > > Shouldn't we have that information in the manual? > > No, it is a very low-level detail of X window manager implementations. That the feature doesn't work with standard WMs is not a detail. Maybe say something like "if supported by your WM" or "not all WM are supported" or so. > (x-send-client-message frame 0 frame "_NET_WM_DESKTOP" 32 > '(#xffffffff 1)) Works well, thank you. Michael. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID b11dc784ba40614319bc2e8563103ed4; Sun, 20 Nov 2022 12:25:31 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Michael Heerdegen Subject: Re: bug#59377: 29.0.50; Sticky frame parameter has no effect In-Reply-To: <8735adyh3u.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Sun, 20 Nov 2022 12:56:21 +0100") References: <87r0xzikaj.fsf@web.de> <87sfifa09g.fsf@yahoo.com> <87fseexhv5.fsf@web.de> <87a64m84lg.fsf@yahoo.com> <877czqxe4v.fsf@web.de> <875yfa7yjd.fsf@yahoo.com> <8735adyh3u.fsf@web.de> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2022 20:25:22 +0800 Message-ID: <871qpx95jh.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20863 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 549 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59377 Cc: 59377@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Heerdegen writes: > That the feature doesn't work with standard WMs is not a detail. Maybe > say something like "if supported by your WM" or "not all WM are > supported" or so. If Openbox does not support the hint, then it is not a ``standard window manager'', as far as virtual desktops are concerned. The manual already says: =E2=80=98sticky=E2=80=99 If non-=E2=80=98nil=E2=80=99, the frame is visible on all virtual desk= tops on systems with virtual desktops. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 20 08:04:02 2022 Received: (at 59377) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2022 13:04:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42626 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1owjzO-0003rC-71 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2022 08:04:02 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([217.72.192.78]:44009) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1owjzL-0003qr-Gt for 59377@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2022 08:04:00 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=s29768273; t=1668949431; bh=MOIYKkBMQ7LzvigTbytnPCmrilwbp5o1KvNFUBHKpUQ=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=wcCTUZoRGf4kqm7OB8+xueM+rh3VtBoZ1wObVh9beZfcC0nLfKBiL4p57KtVdI7WU Fc7XAGWNm5ZTac4Y8j5SRtSiQ4JDtN430qez1mGQn2dk2asMzlus0DUGqbcDLx9Awt miU1pUdRRdqWqKrYX9tR+45/kDZ1/EuiFfk2ptDUvpVWFmSoUgiy2jeMyXz0xVuibY 3tlCpIbK/Uj+LrexSGsAGumz2T/cgjHoQyNItJJG2BPfrewS6CIcIJyDbarljDipI6 HMTyAbMJbBndTPT+4RZQvMW+gFShxIqoiiDiWQf2has+6Im/36Fq6Z4uJGE7kklLkx MVlBk9KU56M3Q== X-UI-Sender-Class: 814a7b36-bfc1-4dae-8640-3722d8ec6cd6 Received: from drachen.dragon ([88.66.71.129]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb106 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mt8gF-1pCd0p2csj-00tMkY; Sun, 20 Nov 2022 14:03:50 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen To: Po Lu Subject: Re: bug#59377: 29.0.50; Sticky frame parameter has no effect In-Reply-To: <871qpx95jh.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Sun, 20 Nov 2022 20:25:22 +0800") References: <87r0xzikaj.fsf@web.de> <87sfifa09g.fsf@yahoo.com> <87fseexhv5.fsf@web.de> <87a64m84lg.fsf@yahoo.com> <877czqxe4v.fsf@web.de> <875yfa7yjd.fsf@yahoo.com> <8735adyh3u.fsf@web.de> <871qpx95jh.fsf@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2022 14:03:48 +0100 Message-ID: <87y1s5wzez.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:OyCkLBQmLvikCWRfV0rRBx7prB4AH9bjUAJ/JGUNEnrm/toVVmv 3TvpuPR1U+OIZFYbdg5uJzIsJla7MAaICzHO3XSBy8qOHMfr1gT2gzP/XI9AFmnA5FSpD0p 1nMnkxEbheG3O7OkOj1Ed5NdQoDnepBXH+gt4xc4PloOR4Q2S2q7vflGIHISHunmH8xzZII 2iXpncP+l7WBLmfSg7Zww== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:cWKod8viZMg=;ZtmdXklyT7d6pQYNuCuPaWtpRPp B/LL/F29bcCE1ops3vqJHuZMNRojFmSLaP63LNv4f2wzbYmyvEqa4krjI/EpDf/elzSphhNtH YYSUfpsjQSlgd7nbxEDO7AB8H0wWEAMQyaREm0z9Js/xpl6sZ51PmftcJSWgsQb70l70BQZNV vI5KfuVsKeYiRwDgV+K1r8HaW2Bp6YPr1HxkkOuztG0vhR3y8qEb4x5W1f30v213aYD0TEDIL g1ELl9QdRvu/wHmQknd6PfX73Oj7wWhFnnyV8INr2qkzV2FkJCVRlhjiJSoe/LcEq8LMQS57H of2TAkFMOY//q9dQFXGXkCzgrIbkbZLHCvmoFrf1vWIBV7xxUKVH+PdZF/ryZmniXwP2kw2dH V1AIN9oFpJfuH4k+sW7UcEd37b6a5SnYgvt/a8N4POEG3dNJabqOqOCkcvnmclx0c3VG6ccPQ 9xAnEmuV10P6I50jC+cGIJ2wqr/RCWKp8QpVxFOold8Y3NvzY/nML77JETeVJsUxXp8+ht19i 8HHfSJ8KtoDZc31AZAuYHcxfUzgPpAy2qnLdbKBFgJ+pXQH28iYfnjrIRX9Fl/R90qTZqy1BH zScTGDwrUfvRpe28vyYqbNC0pfvmxna4PEj37Y0/gPMNfe73h0YPBE3WUIfnPAyF36TpsFmwO d4MpZBANHcrd5LkoA9msHzldng+2Rb1WT300G8DbHASGd0GKO/Bpj5LjfZzMJx+rTbzWsMrNA q1zU7jbnyrXRqCYczGAEzqbkFWYy1Fcj4mDdc/fp3fWnjlvDoLvI6V7zhJ9572yAjJp4Dn5OD hyakoKfoyvrjrdZ6Cu2TegEAyOClXTHb09AAohW8bAL3uDCBlu0ZVMzDSJ9f8PJN9mVVspada mYT9flsaG19PQF0CCh2QxrWp5hgAzSpUCdPD7PKYKyAsfk5jjM/PRMKHIna66VRgtNvlnLp5g dXfrHcbmxhR32kFU6HSDLo676R4= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59377 Cc: 59377@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Po Lu writes: > > That the feature doesn't work with standard WMs is not a detail. Maybe > > say something like "if supported by your WM" or "not all WM are > > supported" or so. > > If Openbox does not support the hint, then it is not a ``standard > window manager'', as far as virtual desktops are concerned. Maybe they are just virtual virtual desktops... Ok, if you think that people who know more about the matter will not be surprised, then it's all good, I cannot estimate. In any case, thanks for helping. Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 24 18:53:06 2022 Received: (at 59377-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Nov 2022 23:53:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60538 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oyM1i-0005h0-81 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2022 18:53:06 -0500 Received: from mail-oa1-f53.google.com ([209.85.160.53]:46898) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oyM1g-0005gO-Lw for 59377-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2022 18:53:04 -0500 Received: by mail-oa1-f53.google.com with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-142faa7a207so3390555fac.13 for <59377-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 24 Nov 2022 15:53:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=yPzX5VoX6erps1MgXjiWu7fP01wm9jDynFXyrPd5snw=; b=jqpYDXB6tKdJhxl5mPv/lFS36uC3hyJleP2dI2yICVtKJIjuLFSPDYAT6B0EpuCUw4 5rOkmTX94Lmt4KOemW7SOete+iusbkLnYub9RB7acm0plMXT1voCkmVnMTFmQBxNvs7e 2Jti4Zcr/eIjlcwlaiexAX3iM5WmXCfhlOUxz+fyNQFSZ1mw3VKh/NVfeAJTLHLTDJUp xbsGIc1X7rQdafoDwgjBaTiFPT7GvuiHZVoNyfsLeAs/GqPydN3L+33Uoo9iMmdOkX/f Ho43bI0ntKXFng5UaEdBE2C2TfnUMrfamygOCRcDxiyqhFXVIDjEzeE3pk99AMBM16rz yvmw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=yPzX5VoX6erps1MgXjiWu7fP01wm9jDynFXyrPd5snw=; b=Rr5rJmL+wDLkkgWWe2NWwjCPoL+EPuhx/FCEWQ6927VrYNY2lPeROVzu+ETHzHza8S lWgpehuuQ1o0mWYtPDz2QhSq9hreQKe3Lj1fwAwTyIqgYKNpw4efMWmomawXSEvwhN92 F6ENL1SWkqZ8m2nPQxPqDG9Uue/SUis9pC0nDm9d26/KFFMY+LzEgS4y3HrdGCljMsv8 zcCcMk7n9rPl9yqhpCvqpCJA1JbpfpNcantJYHKx6fZbKJOE7RwjnV/5XO3eIE0sIFzM QahzPODiiGl4FGyb34WTzXOeN87Bx86o7Kb6deIwAXqllbhjLpYaN/88BnYMMGize/ka Y1jg== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5plUckQCA4LBfcZl1JZ2ZA9Kqu5nwMkCbZOQMW7D2nh+gO5UQ7p1 fdak8Rp3Ix/UKBDDu3nOtzwk7ocIglog2pImdr4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf64CA1m5QBZupwr005oCl+fZsZyaevV4qMwWXxZ5cmybv/NmO0urxV6rJrcsUwyX9gacX8l+1D+HJk1CG843UU= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6870:4995:b0:143:522a:ebcc with SMTP id ho21-20020a056870499500b00143522aebccmr2739855oab.199.1669333979115; Thu, 24 Nov 2022 15:52:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Thu, 24 Nov 2022 15:52:58 -0800 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <87y1s5wzez.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Sun, 20 Nov 2022 14:03:48 +0100") References: <87r0xzikaj.fsf@web.de> <87sfifa09g.fsf@yahoo.com> <87fseexhv5.fsf@web.de> <87a64m84lg.fsf@yahoo.com> <877czqxe4v.fsf@web.de> <875yfa7yjd.fsf@yahoo.com> <8735adyh3u.fsf@web.de> <871qpx95jh.fsf@yahoo.com> <87y1s5wzez.fsf@web.de> X-Hashcash: 1:20:221124:59377-done@debbugs.gnu.org::+g27xCNf+SdKz8H8:07XM MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2022 15:52:58 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#59377: 29.0.50; Sticky frame parameter has no effect To: Michael Heerdegen Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59377-done Cc: Po Lu , 59377-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Heerdegen writes: > Po Lu writes: > >> > That the feature doesn't work with standard WMs is not a detail. Maybe >> > say something like "if supported by your WM" or "not all WM are >> > supported" or so. >> >> If Openbox does not support the hint, then it is not a ``standard >> window manager'', as far as virtual desktops are concerned. > > Maybe they are just virtual virtual desktops... > > Ok, if you think that people who know more about the matter will not be > surprised, then it's all good, I cannot estimate. > > In any case, thanks for helping. So it seems like there is nothing more to do here, and I'm therefore closing this bug report. From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:18:10 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2022 12:24:21 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator