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29.0.50; Buffer-menu-view-other-window lack of keybinding makes help look off

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From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 29.0.50; Buffer-menu-view-other-window lack of keybinding makes help
 look off
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 23:47:14 -0800

Severity: wishlist

The help for `buffer-menu' currently looks a bit off:

    In Buffer Menu mode, the following commands are defined:

    q    Remove the Buffer Menu from the display.
    RET  Select current line’s buffer in place of the buffer menu.
    o    Select that buffer in another window,
         so the Buffer Menu remains visible in its window.
    V    Select current line’s buffer, in View mode.
    M-x Buffer-menu-view-other-window  Select that buffer in
         another window, in ‘view-mode’.

The last entry there looks a bit off (see it in context).  I see two
solutions:

  1. Add some keybinding for `Buffer-menu-view-other-window'.
  2. Move `Buffer-menu-view-other-window' last.

I have no preferences here, but it would be good to do one of them.

Message #8 received at 59280 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 59280 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#59280: 29.0.50;
 Buffer-menu-view-other-window lack of keybinding makes help look off
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 15:52:50 +0200

> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 23:47:14 -0800
> 
>     q    Remove the Buffer Menu from the display.
>     RET  Select current line’s buffer in place of the buffer menu.
>     o    Select that buffer in another window,
>          so the Buffer Menu remains visible in its window.
>     V    Select current line’s buffer, in View mode.
>     M-x Buffer-menu-view-other-window  Select that buffer in
>          another window, in ‘view-mode’.
> 
> The last entry there looks a bit off (see it in context).  I see two
> solutions:
> 
>   1. Add some keybinding for `Buffer-menu-view-other-window'.
>   2. Move `Buffer-menu-view-other-window' last.
> 
> I have no preferences here, but it would be good to do one of them.

How about removing it from the list?  Isn't 'o' enough?

Message #11 received at 59280 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>, 59280 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#59280: 29.0.50; Buffer-menu-view-other-window lack of
 keybinding makes help look off
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 15:18:24 +0100

>>>>> On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 15:52:50 +0200, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> said:

    >> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
    >> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 23:47:14 -0800
    >> 
    >> q    Remove the Buffer Menu from the display.
    >> RET  Select current line’s buffer in place of the buffer menu.
    >> o    Select that buffer in another window,
    >> so the Buffer Menu remains visible in its window.
    >> V    Select current line’s buffer, in View mode.
    >> M-x Buffer-menu-view-other-window  Select that buffer in
    >> another window, in ‘view-mode’.
    >> 
    >> The last entry there looks a bit off (see it in context).  I see two
    >> solutions:
    >> 
    >> 1. Add some keybinding for `Buffer-menu-view-other-window'.
    >> 2. Move `Buffer-menu-view-other-window' last.
    >> 
    >> I have no preferences here, but it would be good to do one of them.

    Eli> How about removing it from the list?  Isn't 'o' enough?

'o' doesnʼt put the buffer in `view-mode'. We could bind it to 'O'

(and while weʼre at it we should reorder things so that eg 'v' and 'V'
are next to each other. And use either "View mode" or `view-mode'
consistently)

Robert
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Message #14 received at 59280 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 59280 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#59280: 29.0.50; Buffer-menu-view-other-window lack of
 keybinding makes help look off
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2022 16:44:42 -0800

close 59280 29.1
thanks

Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com> writes:

>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 15:52:50 +0200, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> said:
>
>     >> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
>     >> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 23:47:14 -0800
>     >>
>     >> q    Remove the Buffer Menu from the display.
>     >> RET  Select current line’s buffer in place of the buffer menu.
>     >> o    Select that buffer in another window,
>     >> so the Buffer Menu remains visible in its window.
>     >> V    Select current line’s buffer, in View mode.
>     >> M-x Buffer-menu-view-other-window  Select that buffer in
>     >> another window, in ‘view-mode’.
>     >>
>     >> The last entry there looks a bit off (see it in context).  I see two
>     >> solutions:
>     >>
>     >> 1. Add some keybinding for `Buffer-menu-view-other-window'.
>     >> 2. Move `Buffer-menu-view-other-window' last.
>     >>
>     >> I have no preferences here, but it would be good to do one of them.
>
>     Eli> How about removing it from the list?  Isn't 'o' enough?
>
> 'o' doesnʼt put the buffer in `view-mode'. We could bind it to 'O'

I bound it to "O".

> (and while weʼre at it we should reorder things so that eg 'v' and 'V'
> are next to each other. And use either "View mode" or `view-mode'
> consistently)

So I tried cleaning that up a little bit.

See commit e769a8eb44.  With that, I'm closing this bug.

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