From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:28:50 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#59277: Latest guix documentation - version number scrambled ? Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien?= FARGE Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 06:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 59277 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 59277@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-guix Reply-To: =?UTF-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien?= FARGE Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.166849295820085 (code B ref -1); Tue, 15 Nov 2022 06:16:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2022 06:15:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52601 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oupEj-0005Dr-FO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2022 01:15:58 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:57398) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ouigB-0000HU-9A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 18:15:52 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouig8-0006LU-RW for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 18:15:49 -0500 Received: from smtp-14.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.14] helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouWpl-0004uy-VH for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 05:36:59 -0500 Received: from opme11oxm02nd1.pom.fr.intraorange ([10.110.57.2]) by smtp.orange.fr with ESMTP id uWpfoQmNbNF1WuWpfooRf1; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 11:36:51 +0100 X-ME-Helo: opme11oxm02nd1.pom.fr.intraorange X-ME-Auth: c2ViYXN0aWVuLmZhcmdlOTI1QG9yYW5nZS5mcg== X-ME-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 11:36:51 +0100 X-ME-IP: 83.200.37.220 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 11:36:51 +0100 (CET) From: =?UTF-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien?= FARGE Message-ID: <1493163212.367763.1668422211954.JavaMail.open-xchange@opme11oxm02nd1.pom.fr.intraorange> In-Reply-To: <956989375.2295039.1667428307829.JavaMail.open-xchange@opme11oxm08nd1.pom.fr.intraorange> References: <956989375.2295039.1667428307829.JavaMail.open-xchange@opme11oxm08nd1.pom.fr.intraorange> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Medium X-Mailer: Open-Xchange Mailer v7.6.3-Rev65 X-Originating-IP: 83.200.37.220 X-Originating-Client: open-xchange-appsuite Received-SPF: pass client-ip=80.12.242.14; envelope-from=sebastien.farge925@orange.fr; helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr X-Spam_score_int: -12 X-Spam_score: -1.3 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT=0.25, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 01:15:56 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--)

Hello guix team,

Looks like there is a bug in latest online guix documentation.

On the front page (https://guix.gnu.org/en/manual/devel/fr/) the version number is replaced by a strange number  'e26b529'.

A consequence is that all links using the version number are broken.

For exemple, on the page : https://guix.gnu.org/en/manual/devel/en/html_node/USB-Stick-and-DVD-Installation.html#Copying-to-a-USB-Stick

i failed to download the iso image named : https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/guix/guix-system-install-e26b529.x86_64-linux.iso

I also noticed that this number change from day to day.

Thanks.

From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:28:50 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#59277: Latest guix documentation - version number scrambled ? 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This is the commit against which the documentation had been built. > A consequence is that all links using the version number are broken. > > For exemple, on the page : https://guix.gnu.org/en/manual/devel/en/html_n= ode/USB-Stick-and-DVD-Installation.html#Copying-to-a-USB-Stick Indeed, but the image is not built for each commit. Well, I do not know if it is fixable =E2=80=93 or if it makes sense to fix. It is the devel ma= nual after all. ;-) > i failed to download the iso image named : https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/guix/g= uix-system-install-e26b529.x86_64-linux.iso=E2=80=99 Specifically, the images are updated for each release, only. For the latest images, please see: https://guix.gnu.org/en/download/latest/ Cheers, simon From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:28:50 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#59277: Latest guix documentation - version number scrambled ? Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien?= FARGE Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 21:24:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59277 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: zimoun , 59277@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: =?UTF-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien?= FARGE Received: via spool by 59277-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59277.166854741210013 (code B ref 59277); Tue, 15 Nov 2022 21:24:03 +0000 Received: (at 59277) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2022 21:23:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55385 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ov3Oy-0002bN-HG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2022 16:23:32 -0500 Received: from smtp-27.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.27]:49165 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ouyIk-0006im-69 for 59277@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2022 10:56:44 -0500 Received: from opme11oxm11nd1.pom.fr.intraorange ([10.110.57.11]) by smtp.orange.fr with ESMTP id uyIgozetsuZP6uyIgo71Sm; Tue, 15 Nov 2022 16:56:38 +0100 X-ME-Helo: opme11oxm11nd1.pom.fr.intraorange X-ME-Auth: c2ViYXN0aWVuLmZhcmdlOTI1QG9yYW5nZS5mcg== X-ME-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 16:56:38 +0100 X-ME-IP: 83.200.37.220 Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 16:56:38 +0100 (CET) From: =?UTF-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien?= FARGE Message-ID: <668422246.697519.1668527798506.JavaMail.open-xchange@opme11oxm11nd1.pom.fr.intraorange> In-Reply-To: <87iljg8ef7.fsf@gmail.com> References: <956989375.2295039.1667428307829.JavaMail.open-xchange@opme11oxm08nd1.pom.fr.intraorange> <1493163212.367763.1668422211954.JavaMail.open-xchange@opme11oxm02nd1.pom.fr.intraorange> <87iljg8ef7.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 Importance: Medium X-Mailer: Open-Xchange Mailer v7.6.3-Rev65 X-Originating-IP: 83.200.37.220 X-Originating-Client: open-xchange-appsuite X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 16:23:27 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/)

Does a documentation with broken links makes sense ?

I d= on't have the answer...

envoyé= : 15 novembre 2022 à 15:45
de : zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.c= om>
à : Sébastien FARGE <sebastien.farge925@orange.fr&= #62;, 59277@debbugs.gnu.org
objet : Re: bug#59277: Latest guix documenta= tion - version number scrambled ?


Hi,

On lun., 14 nov. 20= 22 at 11:36, Sébastien FARGE <sebastien.farge925@orange.fr> wr= ote:

On the front page (https://guix.gn= u.org/en/manual/devel/fr/) the
version number is replaced by a strange n= umber 'e26b529'.

This is the commit against whic= h the documentation had been built.

A consequence is that all links using the version number are broken.
For exemple, on the page : https://guix.gnu.org/en/manual/devel/en/html_n= ode/USB-Stick-and-DVD-Installation.html#Copying-to-a-USB-Stick

Indeed, but the image is not built for each commit. Well, I do not k= now
if it is fixable – or if it makes sense to fix. It is the deve= l manual
after all. ;-)

i failed= to download the iso image named : https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/guix/guix-system= -install-e26b529.x86_64-linux.iso’

Specifically, t= he images are updated for each release, only.

For the latest images,= please see:

https://guix.gnu.org/en/download/latest/


Ch= eers,
simon

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Well, I do not know >> if it is fixable =E2=80=93 or if it makes sense to fix. It is the devel= manual >> after all. ;-) > > Does a documentation with broken links makes sense ? The point is that the (devel) manual is referring to some release only URLs: https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/guix/ The images there are only updated when a new release is out. It is not a rolling-release URL updated by the CI but a very stable URL manually updated (I guess). This URL in the manual is generated by @indicateurl{@value{BASE-URL}/guix-system-install-@value{VERSION}.x86_64-li= nux.iso}, where VERSION is from version.texi generated at compile-time, IIRC. The simplest is to add a warning note mentioning the issue and pointing to: https://guix.gnu.org/en/download/latest/ A more convoluted solution would to introduce another version label as RELEASE-VERSION and use it in these places in the manual. Cheers, simon From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:28:50 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#59277: Latest guix documentation - version number scrambled ? 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I totally agree your more convulated solution.

And thank= s for the explanation, indeed.

envoy= 33; : 16 novembre 2022 à 10:06
de : zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmai= l.com>
à : Sébastien FARGE <sebastien.farge925@orange.= fr>, 59277@debbugs.gnu.org
objet : Re: bug#59277: Latest guix docume= ntation - version number scrambled ?


Hi,

On Tue, 15 Nov 2= 022 at 16:56, Sébastien FARGE <sebastien.farge925@orange.fr> w= rote:

>>> A consequence is that all links using the vers= ion number are broken.
>>>
>>> For exemple, o= n the page : https://guix.gnu.org/en/manual/devel/en/html_node/USB-Stick-an= d-DVD-Installation.html#Copying-to-a-USB-Stick
>>
>> = Indeed, but the image is not built for each commit. Well, I do not know
= >> if it is fixable – or if it makes sense to fix. It is the = devel manual
>> after all. ;-)

D= oes a documentation with broken links makes sense ?

The = point is that the (devel) manual is referring to some release only URLs:
https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/guix/

The images there are only update= d when a new release is out. It is not
a rolling-release URL updated by = the CI but a very stable URL manually
updated (I guess).

This URL= in the manual is generated by

@indicateurl{@value{BASE-URL}/guix-sy= stem-install-@value{VERSION}.x86_64-linux.iso},

where VERSION is fro= m version.texi generated at compile-time, IIRC.

The simplest is to a= dd a warning note mentioning the issue and pointing to:

https://gui= x.gnu.org/en/download/latest/

A more convoluted solution would to in= troduce another version label as
RELEASE-VERSION and use it in these pla= ces in the manual.


Cheers,
simon