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See (1994-11-04) https://groups.google.com/g/gnu.misc.discuss/c/0VtEf1fgEJk= /m/IMBs2o-ftrgJ > If GEL and GUL and GLUE don't work for the name of the scripting > language, how about: > > GUILE - GNU's Universal Interpreted Language Extension > > (This also implies Scheme-ing, and means that the GNU's Universal > Interpreted Language Developers would be part of a ...) > -- > Lee Thomas and (1994-11-22) https://groups.google.com/g/gnu.misc.discuss/c/9pD9yVoRYFw= /m/0z7SLYbx8loJ > Why "GUILE"? (GNU's Universal Interpreted Language Extension) > Two additional reasons: > > 1. It does not give deliberate offense to Dr. Ousterhout or his > supporters, thereby allowing the warring factions to eventually > make peace (along with some others, perhaps - Gloria's 'Usband Is > Linguistically Educated) and get back to work. > 2. By pronunciation it offers appreciation to one of the co-inventors > of Scheme. (Maybe a library package could be named "Scheme User > Supported System Macros And Native-code"? OK, that's a stretch ...) > -- > Lee Thomas, and https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.scheme/c/X5GrLVAvGLU/m/Xk11xCrbzC= cJ > A while back, I started calling the language being built by the GNU Proje= ct > GEL. It turns out that GEL is a trademark of Sybase Inc. Therefore, > we must choose a new name. Please do not refer to the GNU language > as GEL. > > My favorite proposed name, posted recently to comp.lang.scheme, is GUILE. > I like the name, because i think programmers should be encouraged to use > GUILE when writing programs. The name may change yet again; but for now, > please refer to the GNU language as GUILE. > > -t =2D-- doc/ref/history.texi | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/doc/ref/history.texi b/doc/ref/history.texi index d351455a5..60d839ac3 100644 =2D-- a/doc/ref/history.texi +++ b/doc/ref/history.texi @@ -69,7 +69,7 @@ the argument was that eventually when GEL became more cap= able, it could gain the ability to execute other languages, especially Emacs Lisp. =20 =2DDue to a naming conflict with another programming language, Jim Blandy +Due to a naming conflict with another programming language, Lee Thomas suggested a new name for GEL: ``Guile''. Besides being a recursive acronym, ``Guile'' craftily follows the naming of its ancestors, ``Planner'', ``Conniver'', and ``Schemer''. 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