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(envelope-from ) id 1olZnH-0001yg-B6; Thu, 20 Oct 2022 13:57:24 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 20:57:20 +0300 Message-Id: <83pmemwf7j.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Jim Blandy In-Reply-To: (message from Jim Blandy on Thu, 20 Oct 2022 10:23:30 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#58665: Indentation in lisp/emacs-lisp/syntax.el is wrong References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58665 Cc: 58665@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Jim Blandy > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 10:23:30 -0700 > > 2022-10-20 Jim Blandy > > * lisp/emacs-lisp/syntax.el: Fix indentation in `syntax-ppss'. Thanks, but we don't like pure-whitespace changes. We fix these issues when we change code around the places with wrong indentation. 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It's been like that since 2016. It doesn't make sense to let it sit there with formatting that obscures the structure of the code. On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 10:57 AM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Jim Blandy > > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 10:23:30 -0700 > > > > 2022-10-20 Jim Blandy > > > > * lisp/emacs-lisp/syntax.el: Fix indentation in `syntax-ppss'. > > Thanks, but we don't like pure-whitespace changes. We fix these > issues when we change code around the places with wrong indentation. > --0000000000008a6b6f05eb7ddd46 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This code changes almost never. It's been like that si= nce 2016. It doesn't make sense to let it sit there with formatting tha= t obscures the structure of the code.

On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 10:57 AM E= li Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote= :
> From: Jim= Blandy <jbland= y@mozilla.com>
> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 10:23:30 -0700
>
> 2022-10-20=C2=A0 Jim Blandy=C2=A0 <jimb@red-bean.com>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0* lisp/emacs-lisp/syntax.el: Fix inde= ntation in `syntax-ppss'.

Thanks, but we don't like pure-whitespace changes.=C2=A0 We fix these issues when we change code around the places with wrong indentation.
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charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58665 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 58665@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Jim Blandy writes: > This code changes almost never. It's been like that since 2016. It > doesn't make sense to let it sit there with formatting that obscures > the structure of the code. > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 10:57 AM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > From: Jim Blandy > > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 10:23:30 -0700 > > > > 2022-10-20 Jim Blandy > > > > * lisp/emacs-lisp/syntax.el: Fix indentation in `syntax-ppss'. > > Thanks, but we don't like pure-whitespace changes. We fix these > issues when we change code around the places with wrong indentation. I agree that we should avoid making whitespace-only changes in general. Jim makes the point that readability counts. He also points out that this code changes so infrequently that we do not need to be overly worried about any annoying merge conflicts. I think these are valid points. So on balance, I'd be willing to make an exception and take this patch. If Eli is still not convinced, I think it would be better to close this bug and move on. I think we can all agree it's not worth spending energy discussing it further. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 03 06:39:59 2023 Received: (at 58665) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Sep 2023 10:39:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39706 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qckWN-0000bW-Ar for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2023 06:39:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60230) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qckWL-0000bH-E5 for 58665@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2023 06:39:58 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qckW5-0005vP-9d; Sun, 03 Sep 2023 06:39:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=btPomDRZYX0MQEnIclZuZInH+LZAQRHSVMcr+2gZOdU=; b=nnhAu6nYhNEm f6ygCW/kxw1X6hhsQokjyCAPfA+VNby2U7+6m8Tqjb68UA9s+uxhjrFdq06u8hQR4DdKWzbT81Kvn THoL+t4YGu9uyaBXN4EF3deCtOcao/ljrjxcRERw6ehcBLaM8hh3NrD2A80XxG3bNVpDbtwb++UhB e4AS/942EAX/IXN18nL3nZkdAd1I+Gh+cFE3oeMh+YvOkUgQ7GKx3SKmTxu3Zn981S5c78KkFSWd+ smRAN4gb4ppSb3VQg40ZxQNDvemVm7MhfGeg6nkZJdKZGMhKNmPUui7H1CkKjT31Q7t3/BZUw1DH0 42uQBi2LPo6M5KgwUYUWQg==; Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2023 13:39:19 +0300 Message-Id: <83wmx77d7s.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Sun, 3 Sep 2023 03:21:33 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#58665: Indentation in lisp/emacs-lisp/syntax.el is wrong References: <83pmemwf7j.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58665 Cc: jblandy@mozilla.com, 58665@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2023 03:21:33 -0700 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 58665@debbugs.gnu.org > > Jim Blandy writes: > > > This code changes almost never. It's been like that since 2016. It > > doesn't make sense to let it sit there with formatting that obscures > > the structure of the code. > > > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 10:57 AM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > > From: Jim Blandy > > > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 10:23:30 -0700 > > > > > > 2022-10-20 Jim Blandy > > > > > > * lisp/emacs-lisp/syntax.el: Fix indentation in `syntax-ppss'. > > > > Thanks, but we don't like pure-whitespace changes. We fix these > > issues when we change code around the places with wrong indentation. > > I agree that we should avoid making whitespace-only changes in general. > Jim makes the point that readability counts. He also points out that > this code changes so infrequently that we do not need to be overly > worried about any annoying merge conflicts. I think these are valid > points. > > So on balance, I'd be willing to make an exception and take this patch. > If Eli is still not convinced, I think it would be better to close this > bug and move on. I think we can all agree it's not worth spending > energy discussing it further. If you think this change could be useful, I won't object applying it. 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