From unknown Tue Jun 24 17:28:17 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#58542: 29.0.50; "C-h q" leaves misleading message in the echo-area Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 09:30:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 58542 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 58542@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.166582618829398 (code B ref -1); Sat, 15 Oct 2022 09:30:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Oct 2022 09:29:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39462 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ojdUK-0007e5-A9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2022 05:29:48 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:54836) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ojdUI-0007dx-H2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2022 05:29:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41866) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ojdUH-0007sL-Gl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2022 05:29:45 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54560) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ojdUH-0008Ih-9E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2022 05:29:45 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Subject:To:From:Date:mime-version:in-reply-to: references; bh=Tq7zhta4MXM8A7yHe+fxp+t2kHBIyrPdULvUyExcsKg=; b=fFTd8dzN7j2lxb Kx5hnsCvpbceS4OleP4fw1+LloItDn4/ZHE0m6RZdkMC3bid9RHAkTh6AHN37tsmodE6TxUCybjcB HWDfamFb7Ytu1Ds4Z6uYCyfUdZbYCQRjvKt5ysuP7lVomZ5v1Ux7kf1FhzklRzaTly8yL5HaFQOCe Kcny+vQJujM1C87QcdR3+0uhRYPvAMxJAYB+6qO11RwozO+3QuTx4iVjaz65UmqMxVjrLoC+V5ALN VZ4CJUps3Wf14UA+9/NeFsNYbdmgkFdnx5M0TE5gz73KjSkUDKT1UbbKrTFG++yIdlpzkhEG+I5xg GMWEFnVJ2LgRjxz4AvZg==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4507 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ojdUG-0002vz-Nc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2022 05:29:45 -0400 Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 12:29:34 +0300 Message-Id: <83a65x77up.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) To reproduce: emacs -Q C-h q C-h q That is, wait for some time between the second C-h and the following "q". You will then be left with this message in the echo-area: C-h (Type ? for further options) q This is misleading, since we are no longer at the C-h prompt. E.g., typing "?" at this point will just insert it into the current buffer. In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 2070, i686-pc-mingw32) of 2022-10-15 built on HOME-C4E4A596F7 Repository revision: e185526d216e544a70b2be77b34b5cb5386762d1 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 System Description: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 3 (v5.1.0.2600) Configured using: 'configure -C --prefix=/d/usr --with-wide-int --enable-checking=yes,glyphs 'CFLAGS=-O0 -gdwarf-4 -g3'' Configured features: ACL GIF GMP GNUTLS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY W32NOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS WEBP XPM ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: ENU locale-coding-system: cp1255 Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t line-number-mode: t indent-tabs-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. 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