From unknown Tue Jun 24 17:23:39 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#5852 <5852@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#5852 <5852@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 23.1; Incorrect references in ses-mode Reply-To: bug#5852 <5852@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2025 00:23:39 +0000 retitle 5852 23.1; Incorrect references in ses-mode reassign 5852 emacs submitter 5852 G=C3=B6ran Uddeborg severity 5852 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 07 12:25:03 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Apr 2010 16:25:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NzY3q-0003dI-IO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:25:02 -0400 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NzXue-0003YY-KB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:15:33 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:59143) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NzXuZ-0000Jg-EO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:15:27 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NzXuY-0003yN-NV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:15:26 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=41020 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NzXuX-0003xB-15 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:15:26 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.0 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NzXuV-0004yJ-05 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:15:24 -0400 Received: from smtprelay-h22.telenor.se ([195.54.99.197]:36243) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NzXuU-0004xg-N0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:15:22 -0400 Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (ipb2.telenor.se [195.54.127.165]) by smtprelay-h22.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F52BC3DC for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 18:15:17 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [83.227.168.100] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApZeAJ9MvEtT46hkPGdsb2JhbACED4NVh3EBi0sMAQEBATUtvFGFCQQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,379,1267398000"; d="scan'208";a="60743808" Received: from ua-83-227-168-100.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO mimmi.uddeborg.se) ([83.227.168.100]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 07 Apr 2010 18:15:17 +0200 Received: from freddi.uddeborg (freddi.uddeborg [172.17.0.3]) by mimmi.uddeborg.se (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o37GFETI010548 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 18:15:15 +0200 Received: from freddi.uddeborg (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by freddi.uddeborg (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o37GFE9U010062 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 18:15:14 +0200 Received: (from goeran@localhost) by freddi.uddeborg (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) id o37GFETu010061; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 18:15:14 +0200 Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 18:15:14 +0200 Message-Id: <201004071615.o37GFETu010061@freddi.uddeborg> From: =?utf-8?Q?G=C3=B6ran_Uddeborg?= To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 23.1; Incorrect references in ses-mode X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:25:00 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) I discovered this when emacs sometimes complains that I have circular references in ses-mode files where there shouldn't be any. When investigating the ses file I've noticed some cells contain references that are incorrect. When I remove these incorrect references, the complaints about circular references go away, so I strongly suspect the problems are related. And even if I'm wrong, the incorrect references is a bug. While I haven't been able to create a simple test case where I get a circular reference complaint, I can easily get to a state where there are incorrect references. Create a ses file with these keystrokes: C-x C-f s . s e s 1 C-o 2 ( + SPC B 1 SPC A 2 C-n C-o 3 ( + SPC B 2 SPC A 3 C-a C-o 4 C-p C-SPC C-f M-w C-n C-b C-y C-n C-y C-x C-s In the resulting file, cell B2 has cell B4 incorrectly listed among its references: (ses-cell B2 3 (+ B1 A2) nil (B3 B4)) Only B3 does actually reference B2. In GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.3) of 2009-12-02 on x86-3.fedora.phx.redhat.com Windowing system distributor `Fedora Project', version 11.0.10705000 configured using `configure '--build=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' '--host=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' '--target=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' '--program-prefix=' '--prefix=/usr' '--exec-prefix=/usr' '--bindir=/usr/bin' '--sbindir=/usr/sbin' '--sysconfdir=/etc' '--datadir=/usr/share' '--includedir=/usr/include' '--libdir=/usr/lib64' '--libexecdir=/usr/libexec' '--localstatedir=/var' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--with-dbus' '--with-gif' '--with-jpeg' '--with-png' '--with-rsvg' '--with-tiff' '--with-xft' '--with-xpm' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk' 'build_alias=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' 'target_alias=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-DMAIL_USE_LOCKF -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m64 -mtune=generic'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: sv_SE.utf8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: SES Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: 1 C-o 2 ( + SPC B 1 SPC A 2 C-n C-o 3 ( + SPC B 2 SPC A 3 C-n C-o C-p C-o 4 C-p C-SPC C-f M-w C-n C-b C-y C-n C-y C-x C-s M-x r e p o r t - e m a c s - b u g Recent messages: [2 times] Yanking...done Mark set Yanking...done [2 times] Yanking...done [2 times] Yanking...done Saving file /home/g=f6ran/x.ses... Wrote /home/g=f6ran/x.ses From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 28 22:14:48 2020 Received: (at 5852) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Feb 2020 03:14:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34045 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j7saW-0003Jf-Dc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2020 22:14:48 -0500 Received: from ted.gofardesign.uk ([67.225.143.91]:55930) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j7saV-0003JO-04 for 5852@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2020 22:14:47 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=marxist.se; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=YAo6QhERGoDcMJMuAwn61hMAR/5zdS8EYBKGGva7WDM=; b=eM++x+7iM1NJ0H0iDVKuWZWIL1 a9zinIlWfA6e937mlNcUPH32VbxuRtZoPf4hufa3Nls3EhECXelRhVswhsvyGBfO0FoPATLx7//lQ 70Qfpv8iQ9qr+UP81qUjkFjh0jmK/6N7nqMpgAy8HiYNaxVmg/3xtHCV2VhKmcJCc3xjthdR3nlMS BLUnLWD0vmnv8ff31uGgIym+lDy+3N5c9gPrp//OcCZSIDzIVNYqeG/7d3vIVOBUrjUZsqQ2vKNfn 2GJkUUfaj+ls1N5JTygJeRwfeLMrZ/g65QpTYu90WXNdBxUZ7aI1VrPbX6LDUNA4m+gq3Kvz/cFte boUVJ8gg==; Received: from h-4-70-69.a785.priv.bahnhof.se ([155.4.70.69]:49684 helo=localhost) by ted.gofardesign.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1j7saN-001SjK-LK; Fri, 28 Feb 2020 22:14:39 -0500 From: Stefan Kangas To: Vincent =?utf-8?Q?Bela=C3=AFche?= Subject: Re: bug#5852: 23.1; Incorrect references in ses-mode In-Reply-To: <201004071615.o37GFETu010061@freddi.uddeborg> (=?utf-8?Q?=22G?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=B6ran?= Uddeborg"'s message of "Wed, 7 Apr 2010 18:15:14 +0200") References: <201004071615.o37GFETu010061@freddi.uddeborg> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 04:14:37 +0100 Message-ID: <874kva84pu.fsf@stefankangas.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ted.gofardesign.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - marxist.se X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: ted.gofardesign.uk: authenticated_id: stefan@marxist.se X-Authenticated-Sender: ted.gofardesign.uk: stefan@marxist.se X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5852 Cc: 5852@debbugs.gnu.org, =?utf-8?Q?G=C3=B6ran?= Uddeborg X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Vincent, Could you please take a look at the below bug report? It was reported in 2010, before you were listed as the maintainer of ses.el. Thanks in advance. Best regards, Stefan Kangas G=C3=B6ran Uddeborg writes: > I discovered this when emacs sometimes complains that I have circular > references in ses-mode files where there shouldn't be any. When > investigating the ses file I've noticed some cells contain references > that are incorrect. When I remove these incorrect references, the > complaints about circular references go away, so I strongly suspect > the problems are related. And even if I'm wrong, the incorrect > references is a bug. > > While I haven't been able to create a simple test case where I get a > circular reference complaint, I can easily get to a state where there > are incorrect references. Create a ses file with these keystrokes: > > C-x C-f s . s e s 1 C-o 2 > ( + SPC B 1 SPC A 2 > C-n C-o 3 ( + SPC B 2 SPC A 3 C-a > C-o 4 C-p C-SPC C-f M-w C-n C-b C-y C-n C-y > C-x C-s > > In the resulting file, cell B2 has cell B4 incorrectly listed among > its references: > > (ses-cell B2 3 (+ B1 A2) nil (B3 B4)) > > Only B3 does actually reference B2. > > > In GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.3) > of 2009-12-02 on x86-3.fedora.phx.redhat.com > Windowing system distributor `Fedora Project', version 11.0.10705000 > configured using `configure '--build=3Dx86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' '--host= =3Dx86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' '--target=3Dx86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' '--program= -prefix=3D' '--prefix=3D/usr' '--exec-prefix=3D/usr' '--bindir=3D/usr/bin' = '--sbindir=3D/usr/sbin' '--sysconfdir=3D/etc' '--datadir=3D/usr/share' '--i= ncludedir=3D/usr/include' '--libdir=3D/usr/lib64' '--libexecdir=3D/usr/libe= xec' '--localstatedir=3D/var' '--sharedstatedir=3D/var/lib' '--mandir=3D/us= r/share/man' '--infodir=3D/usr/share/info' '--with-dbus' '--with-gif' '--wi= th-jpeg' '--with-png' '--with-rsvg' '--with-tiff' '--with-xft' '--with-xpm'= '--with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk' 'build_alias=3Dx86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' 'host_ali= as=3Dx86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' 'target_alias=3Dx86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' 'CFL= AGS=3D-DMAIL_USE_LOCKF -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3D2 -fexcep= tions -fstack-protector --param=3Dssp-buffer-size=3D4 -m64 -mtune=3Dgeneric= '' > > Important settings: > value of $LC_ALL: nil > value of $LC_COLLATE: nil > value of $LC_CTYPE: nil > value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil > value of $LC_MONETARY: nil > value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil > value of $LC_TIME: nil > value of $LANG: sv_SE.utf8 > value of $XMODIFIERS: nil > locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix > default-enable-multibyte-characters: t > > Major mode: SES > > Minor modes in effect: > tooltip-mode: t > tool-bar-mode: t > mouse-wheel-mode: t > menu-bar-mode: t > file-name-shadow-mode: t > global-font-lock-mode: t > font-lock-mode: t > blink-cursor-mode: t > global-auto-composition-mode: t > auto-composition-mode: t > auto-encryption-mode: t > auto-compression-mode: t > line-number-mode: t > transient-mark-mode: t > > Recent input: > 1 C-o 2 =20 > ( + SPC B 1 SPC A 2 =20 > C-n C-o 3 ( + SPC B 2 SPC A 3 C-n=20 > C-o C-p C-o 4 C-p C-SPC C-f M-w C-n C-b C-y=20 > C-n C-y C-x C-s M-x r e p o r t - e m a=20 > c s - b u g > > Recent messages: > [2 times] > Yanking...done > Mark set > Yanking...done > [2 times] > Yanking...done > [2 times] > Yanking...done > Saving file /home/g=3Df6ran/x.ses... > Wrote /home/g=3Df6ran/x.ses From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 29 15:13:19 2020 Received: (at 5852) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Feb 2020 20:13:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35446 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j88UA-0006Om-RZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Feb 2020 15:13:19 -0500 Received: from smtp06.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.128]:17992 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j88U8-0006OY-Bh for 5852@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Feb 2020 15:13:17 -0500 Received: from AigleRoyal ([90.32.173.209]) by mwinf5d41 with ME id 8kD62200A4XS2Fu03kD6z7; Sat, 29 Feb 2020 21:13:09 +0100 X-ME-Helo: AigleRoyal X-ME-Auth: dmluY2VudGJlbGFpY2hlQG9yYW5nZS5mcg== X-ME-Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 21:13:09 +0100 X-ME-IP: 90.32.173.209 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vincent_Bela=EFche?= To: stefan@marxist.se Subject: Re: bug#5852: 23.1; Incorrect references in ses-mode In-Reply-To: <874kva84pu.fsf@stefankangas.se> Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 21:13:01 +0100 Message-ID: <845zfpi242.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5852 Cc: 5852@debbugs.gnu.org, =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6ran?= Uddeborg , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vincent_Bela=EFche?= X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vincent_Bela=EFche?= Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dear Stefan and G=C3=BCran, I confirm that the bug still exists, I followed the instructions by G=C3=BCran and I reproduced the same result. Actually, after doing all these and typing: M-x ses-repair-cell-reference-all I get the following answer=C2=A0: --8<----8<----8<----8<----8<-- begin -->8---->8---->8---->8---->8---- Warning (emacs): ----------------------------------------------------------= ------ Some references were corrupted. The following is a list where each element ELT is such that (car ELT) is the reference of cell CELL with corruption, and (cdr ELT) is a property list where * property =E2=80=98:corrupt-property=E2=80=99 means that property =E2=80=98:ses-repair-reference=E2=80=99 of cell CELL was initial= ly non nil, * property =E2=80=98:missing=E2=80=99 is a list of missing references * property =E2=80=98:irrelevant=E2=80=99 is a list of non needed references ((B2 :irrelevant (B4))) --8<----8<----8<----8<----8<-- end -->8---->8---->8---->8---->8---- This shows that the cut and paste can actually breaks the reference list in some cases. Please note that 'ses-repair-cell-reference-all' is the command that I added to SES after I became the maintainer in order to fix broken reference lists, as this can still happen if you type C-g during some cell editing post-commands. However I hadn't realized that even by normal editing (no C-g) you can get broken references. I will investigate why and feed back once I have a better idea of what is happening. VBR, Vincent. Le 29/02/2020 =C3=A0 04:14, Stefan Kangas a =C3=A9crit : > Hi Vincent, > > Could you please take a look at the below bug report? It was reported > in 2010, before you were listed as the maintainer of ses.el. > > Thanks in advance. > > Best regards, > Stefan Kangas > > > G=C3=B6ran Uddeborg writes: > >> I discovered this when emacs sometimes complains that I have circular >> references in ses-mode files where there shouldn't be any. When >> investigating the ses file I've noticed some cells contain references >> that are incorrect. When I remove these incorrect references, the >> complaints about circular references go away, so I strongly suspect >> the problems are related. And even if I'm wrong, the incorrect >> references is a bug. >> >> While I haven't been able to create a simple test case where I get a >> circular reference complaint, I can easily get to a state where there >> are incorrect references. Create a ses file with these keystrokes: >> >> C-x C-f s . s e s 1 C-o 2 >> ( + SPC B 1 SPC A 2 >> C-n C-o 3 ( + SPC B 2 SPC A 3 C-a >> C-o 4 C-p C-SPC C-f M-w C-n C-b C-y C-n C-y >> C-x C-s >> >> In the resulting file, cell B2 has cell B4 incorrectly listed among >> its references: >> >> (ses-cell B2 3 (+ B1 A2) nil (B3 B4)) >> >> Only B3 does actually reference B2. >> >> >> In GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.3) >> of 2009-12-02 on x86-3.fedora.phx.redhat.com >> Windowing system distributor `Fedora Project', version 11.0.10705000 >> configured using `configure '--build=3Dx86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' '--host= =3Dx86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' '--target=3Dx86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' '--program= -prefix=3D' '--prefix=3D/usr' '--exec-prefix=3D/usr' '--bindir=3D/usr/bin' = '--sbindir=3D/usr/sbin' '--sysconfdir=3D/etc' '--datadir=3D/usr/share' '--i= ncludedir=3D/usr/include' '--libdir=3D/usr/lib64' '--libexecdir=3D/usr/libe= xec' '--localstatedir=3D/var' '--sharedstatedir=3D/var/lib' '--mandir=3D/us= r/share/man' '--infodir=3D/usr/share/info' '--with-dbus' '--with-gif' '--wi= th-jpeg' '--with-png' '--with-rsvg' '--with-tiff' '--with-xft' '--with-xpm'= '--with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk' 'build_alias=3Dx86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' 'host_ali= as=3Dx86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' 'target_alias=3Dx86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' 'CFL= AGS=3D-DMAIL_USE_LOCKF -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3D2 -fexcep= tions -fstack-protector --param=3Dssp-buffer-size=3D4 -m64 -mtune=3Dgeneric= '' >> >> Important settings: >> value of $LC_ALL: nil >> value of $LC_COLLATE: nil >> value of $LC_CTYPE: nil >> value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil >> value of $LC_MONETARY: nil >> value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil >> value of $LC_TIME: nil >> value of $LANG: sv_SE.utf8 >> value of $XMODIFIERS: nil >> locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix >> default-enable-multibyte-characters: t >> >> Major mode: SES >> >> Minor modes in effect: >> tooltip-mode: t >> tool-bar-mode: t >> mouse-wheel-mode: t >> menu-bar-mode: t >> file-name-shadow-mode: t >> global-font-lock-mode: t >> font-lock-mode: t >> blink-cursor-mode: t >> global-auto-composition-mode: t >> auto-composition-mode: t >> auto-encryption-mode: t >> auto-compression-mode: t >> line-number-mode: t >> transient-mark-mode: t >> >> Recent input: >> 1 C-o 2 =20 >> ( + SPC B 1 SPC A 2 =20 >> C-n C-o 3 ( + SPC B 2 SPC A 3 C-n=20 >> C-o C-p C-o 4 C-p C-SPC C-f M-w C-n C-b C-y=20 >> C-n C-y C-x C-s M-x r e p o r t - e m a=20 >> c s - b u g >> >> Recent messages: >> [2 times] >> Yanking...done >> Mark set >> Yanking...done >> [2 times] >> Yanking...done >> [2 times] >> Yanking...done >> Saving file /home/g=3Df6ran/x.ses... >> Wrote /home/g=3Df6ran/x.ses From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 18 09:37:03 2021 Received: (at 5852) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jul 2021 13:37:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55487 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m56yd-00079g-En for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 09:37:03 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:34392) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m56yc-000790-4B for 5852@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 09:37:02 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=7TAx75c/s6UbtlxKzS+d82Jqy3nFu8XXlzMxwX0YtPM=; b=HOua4vacuH/7ivMLwALeyfhwS5 opqvmJomVBR1LTR7YBArMJ4I59ju1xHf/TGlSz9XL37AiwF4RQE2v0iNea3/TVMoS1V3je2etzoSr vDBs82YLaZubaJqZrwsOcLrUqqVXwmh/eiiu34v9hPAbHKKi0+PL5fYcT6uUX57FgglY=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m56yT-00011R-2Y; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:36:55 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Vincent =?utf-8?Q?Bela=C3=AFche?= Subject: Re: bug#5852: 23.1; Incorrect references in ses-mode References: <845zfpi242.fsf@gmail.com> X-Now-Playing: Suicide's _Suicide_: "Frankie Teardrop" Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:36:52 +0200 In-Reply-To: <845zfpi242.fsf@gmail.com> ("Vincent =?utf-8?Q?Bela=C3=AFche?= =?utf-8?Q?=22's?= message of "Sat, 29 Feb 2020 21:13:01 +0100") Message-ID: <871r7vrbez.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Vincent Belaïche writes: > I will investigate why and feed back once I have a better idea of what > is happening. 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Did you make any progress on this issue? --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 24 17:46:55 2021 Received: (at 5852) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jul 2021 21:46:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47158 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m7PTz-0007jL-7R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2021 17:46:55 -0400 Received: from mail-pj1-f52.google.com ([209.85.216.52]:38428) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m7PTv-0007j5-IT for 5852@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2021 17:46:54 -0400 Received: by mail-pj1-f52.google.com with SMTP id j8-20020a17090aeb08b0290173bac8b9c9so14181898pjz.3 for <5852@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 24 Jul 2021 14:46:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WFojmC4/3gTslR8Fxjn5LoL2rZwNrfyX/9pBNIngiGg=; b=ZP5aw/lXU4MuGHsqAda2+r36SAzwEvEcH1hozER257rW30XWTW7XL/1RjMLmucFKqC DphsItFpZgCWGKHZC7/fqtBp+CHbqXyuQbdYzfeFq7jVb/GtVXjCDHupn4UOjaHRy+Dg nzXhQ1SZPNYzw9WlEyjoB3QgTbMvRV79hCXBdxlppKZkpMcl1cDL3M+0ECotpzHI+/ye I8zU63BQDZZIAU8PKWqdsRVnx7TrojmnptAoJLzS6MgNiPwJTApw9WJ4C32P21loXWti pLqY5VN+E8ZBoe1Nuh0wmdDoL7kK9ZhZYH+p7/hDBlcUqKjo9wIfFtrsCWgjpp3IICjI 4qmQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WFojmC4/3gTslR8Fxjn5LoL2rZwNrfyX/9pBNIngiGg=; b=DycPC2XtQ+cteReioLWq0//+bbYiGbCT3UBMxW4MyDXMPHWL0PTgV7ULhKCrcwKivw No/PU4fhwZzEcBOsopkPNfKHIJRzNqcrpkJ4w2/9NqqlqAHoDTNcrN/NX22Z/EnG9ppW fWFIhobc/HwNsgSVBwD24joLVwO6OY6rDf6Z1mVQy2cBpSkYvKUfq3HVZU0c0eEGOr6t o+Xi1ilt20It6sX5fgpvPbjQ9uxA+V5UAPBAwN/4bDlP3GyqtjQT88n6WvaD9rBDx/UN dAUa2IyVdC3ycyIb6xYdB8Qd8anCFLh9uFCqdV6e6ubnvXxrmd56BbEeDn36w8h69iBu HCEw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532/F8hzZpfJugFn5VXcAdITJlVF+8AM4qtAECFzKsH8pSDFzvs1 E5yy5AfjURwMYa7ZYAsriNbCekp3ua7jHZ4EPck= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzNygUoJp9GM5QYcL7l3m8RJcc4WKe87z2u402dHol3vX0HPlaY5kQREbYWd1iZ8NT9ifSwGQpaW+FON7D6gOI= X-Received: by 2002:a65:5087:: with SMTP id r7mr4798555pgp.160.1627163205656; Sat, 24 Jul 2021 14:46:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <845zfpi242.fsf@gmail.com> <871r7vrbez.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <871r7vrbez.fsf@gnus.org> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Vincent_Bela=C3=AFche?= Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 23:46:34 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5852: 23.1; Incorrect references in ses-mode To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5852 Cc: 5852@debbugs.gnu.org, =?UTF-8?Q?Vincent_Bela=C3=AFche?= , Stefan Kangas , =?UTF-8?Q?G=C3=B6ran_Uddeborg?= X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hello Lars, Sorry for not making any feedback for so long, actually I was just distracted by some other business, and I somewhat had forgotten about it. I suspect a race condition between the post command hook and the next command. That is to say when one yanks the fomula (the first yank), one relocates the reference but for this one uses current references that have not yet been relocated because the previous post-command hook execution is not yet over. The bug does not show every time I do the experiment. I tried this morning with my office PC which is a fast machine, and it proved out quite hard to reproduce, even when I launched some big C program compilation in parallel to eat the mips. Next week I will do some experiment with my home PC which is quite quite slower, and I make some feedback. Unfortunateless both machine do not have the same emacs version, but anyway all changes in SES since the version on my home PC are not related to this bug, so nevertheless that will be a good indication whether my guess is correct. V. Le dim. 18 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 15:37, Lars Ingebrigtsen a = =C3=A9crit : > > Vincent Bela=C3=AFche writes: > > > I will investigate why and feed back once I have a better idea of what > > is happening. > > Hi, > > this was a year ago. Did you make any progress on this issue? > > -- > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) > bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 25 01:49:16 2021 Received: (at 5852) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jul 2021 05:49:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47354 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m7X0m-0006nk-CI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 01:49:16 -0400 Received: from mail-pl1-f182.google.com ([209.85.214.182]:41944) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m7X0j-0006nU-Ce for 5852@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 01:49:15 -0400 Received: by mail-pl1-f182.google.com with SMTP id e14so7933038plh.8 for <5852@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 24 Jul 2021 22:49:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AHVBLn2JC6vH8bdu5ckWFOEJFNjJSt5UKTFrjgcgA98=; b=nNicTvu5peI48kjHxlIf/PCaAX1soB9Mbcv0Jn9NHnN7m8e+3oquTQql4i0mdPqTcs akExyqO2zgmsUsgIYEJaXkBc0lzOCdhW3FOm9V1Qt7FSJdMlviGPho9ysPOmMr94JAjc SBWTdKBecCb9gw/mh0NUKwv8T8CPipMIXMaKDzjhIJeqdF9UZ5Zz/MDnTowqyGg2XhZW Fe7oGEEK0pmg8GJ5RL552ui7gutpP3LQw9Y6gt1tSPQA6qYlAtW7ZxIe58V1BsQe6lBr NPa7hsVQmm5JNpNIURJWluIbc438+xFBEi0+9iMz+MiGFJcqDB1QusUnGUn2Xqg5f/uy Hcfg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AHVBLn2JC6vH8bdu5ckWFOEJFNjJSt5UKTFrjgcgA98=; b=gPVR0Zne3/wc9AUGqcG9jAOuodKkS2bHUFCGojuEZbz0Hp+tWIpFxhV93GCobI7i0B WeT8UzCy6CZwflvIuOhQ/3ECc3hpRnDfGJ80vfu5i18DqDloSIBPC+5I7ZCJto0AiJPf NUs+BhiH+a3gxDBsr0aFwOEX0FGMg7DCk4DbeuMcWXWPtCNwKuxb42wL5HFLQq1MuNSA lLuT3joSOWr1MbMN73PNBSsxHkV8F0bCCwh+EJYGy7sP5AunzdD7FokAVViYhU3Kp7PU I4GK7p2uMsgeFYaV58FMhiwsgHK1fcui4Kgd8yXHvfqZJhyevd5tWBYyGHzMI5T0Q+9L Nt/w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531tpKHmSV6SBixO+iTEn6dAoX00HKGvqoQIrTwYyXzaOA9vNiCI 48eSU6XYQqUdeBlhRvt6VUl9YAtfmCVr3z1Yj3U= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz5BPpZaiIOkmqDJoJNjPLMtg6PB1u8Acb3dWjcINFRaXsuBpWsuNm8XgeDL37MSWHDGDxTP8pH9CL8+2ZbrwI= X-Received: by 2002:a65:62da:: with SMTP id m26mr12411866pgv.370.1627192147454; Sat, 24 Jul 2021 22:49:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <845zfpi242.fsf@gmail.com> <871r7vrbez.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Vincent_Bela=C3=AFche?= Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 07:48:55 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5852: 23.1; Incorrect references in ses-mode To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5852 Cc: 5852@debbugs.gnu.org, =?UTF-8?Q?Vincent_Bela=C3=AFche?= , Stefan Kangas , =?UTF-8?Q?G=C3=B6ran_Uddeborg?= X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Just to add something : reading again SES code, and (info "(elisp) Command Overview") I am a bit skeptical about the explanation in my previous email. It seems that only key strokes are queue, but command execution and post command hook are in sequence, so not done concurrently. I wrote this function to try to reproduce the bug, and on my office PC it does not reproduce it: (defun bug-5852 ();;--- "Check no irrelevant reference is created when a row is inserted and a formula is yanked" (interactive);;--- (let ((ses-initial-size '(3 . 3))) (with-temp-buffer (ses-mode) (dolist (val '( (ses-edit-cell 0 1 1) (ses-edit-cell 1 0 2) (ses-edit-cell 1 1 (+ B1 A2)) (ses-edit-cell 2 0 3) (ses-edit-cell 2 1 (+ B2 A3)) (ses-jump A3) (ses-insert-row 1) (ses-edit-cell 2 0 4) (ses-jump B2) )) (apply 'funcall-interactively val) (ses-command-hook)) (let ((beg (point-marker))) (ses-jump 'C2) ; C-n (copy-region-as-kill beg (point) nil) (set-marker beg nil)) (dolist (val '( (ses-jump B3) (yank) (ses-jump B4) (yank) )) (apply 'funcall-interactively val) (ses-command-hook)) (ses-repair-cell-reference-all) ))) Please note that the main difference with the provided example is that motion is done with ses-jump, and not with motion commands. Also the save to keyring is not done interatively. V. Le sam. 24 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 23:46, Vincent Bela=C3=AFche a =C3=A9crit : > > Hello Lars, > > Sorry for not making any feedback for so long, actually I was just > distracted by some other business, and I somewhat had forgotten about > it. > > I suspect a race condition between the post command hook and the next > command. That is to say when one yanks the fomula (the first yank), > one relocates the reference but for this one uses current references > that have not yet been relocated because the previous post-command > hook execution is not yet over. > > The bug does not show every time I do the experiment. I tried this > morning with my office PC which is a fast machine, and it proved out > quite hard to reproduce, even when I launched some big C program > compilation in parallel to eat the mips. > > Next week I will do some experiment with my home PC which is quite > quite slower, and I make some feedback. Unfortunateless both machine > do not have the same emacs version, but anyway all changes in SES > since the version on my home PC are not related to this bug, so > nevertheless that will be a good indication whether my guess is > correct. > > V. > > Le dim. 18 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 15:37, Lars Ingebrigtsen a = =C3=A9crit : > > > > Vincent Bela=C3=AFche writes: > > > > > I will investigate why and feed back once I have a better idea of wha= t > > > is happening. > > > > Hi, > > > > this was a year ago. Did you make any progress on this issue? > > > > -- > > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) > > bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 25 01:56:55 2021 Received: (at 5852) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jul 2021 05:56:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47360 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m7X8B-0007A4-9P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 01:56:55 -0400 Received: from mail-pj1-f43.google.com ([209.85.216.43]:35652) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m7X88-00079q-JI for 5852@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 01:56:53 -0400 Received: by mail-pj1-f43.google.com with SMTP id pf12-20020a17090b1d8cb0290175c085e7a5so15042104pjb.0 for <5852@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 24 Jul 2021 22:56:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NLir9JcsbQ/n37SD+4IOa5DHQ05GLlgQkCszzpdxEr4=; b=C3ROuXNdiu3BbqffFjD2Ux6j1TKU8OF3X0ctOYiJrrRj8toIRYuhOqXAlOM1dAudWe 1g0QqOUNfpQe5A4xnCMPou+v9sznrmHOoAExOE4nAQplHMnacmAZ7syHcbUkDo5CQo5K 050YVJEwYLHMxUNpy2Ek5wCc4hMLiTe6LrBWvqeKtgg7hvnlCEMUaVYPnRnEQA0nje5Q 7As7S2otGgHKQzzI5kIpSYwfoCPEc10itpTIuGaDlHq1NnzfgGbTWB1NOqa8Q43P2drt MKbAk2bsxPFwG0Kew2ZzbkW4VevIQkvLCwt9xCHls4MbcZ5oV4M4VRprKY+jBU6TKbt+ ujDQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NLir9JcsbQ/n37SD+4IOa5DHQ05GLlgQkCszzpdxEr4=; b=TZjXlggo2P829yU+KOx8znSEw4USD41vWC8a9kct7kVE2Mm1M+h8OhWh1d2Thkyszl GJKrqF1+RpU3zXZHzNUeH7WC9J8Vh0CqK0HpKJ4KZ4z11P34H7oyFoCSbLzE5k/+nXuV rZM974akYOxvHyg6lSuXHHsBT4SnNiLMS6hdgky91CcDfg8nJjYFGwY/T5kzQOqDLDDv uO8s3iBgHJvEQQv1CvOwggBBnmXiJDowEOwm+E/5LzlbrZDHYuxcKtOEHfPhX65a3JPS SzGcKyF8QHlEttSXa7/c4nyzCQ14RI6CPV+G9bS7VTrgU0QeJVT+tHYX9rBiAvA1N3Rc VUYA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533D25WQeOLMSNoNJn2fLIHcS5wNr1Q+VjqO3gSG0Xu/12C4PIw7 sB+MermaEiIbX28G9XWzRKWSf5ZG0Le0YyBc9qw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwKUa5PnRIS4ZR+CTIR1LTK7n8ejE+Ovl50NV4xp3Hu6msIny5KtpNGd16vyAshIYH9n0vWaoXo0wEpN4JGXEc= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:87cd:0:b029:32e:7954:2872 with SMTP id i13-20020aa787cd0000b029032e79542872mr12187239pfo.0.1627192606635; Sat, 24 Jul 2021 22:56:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <845zfpi242.fsf@gmail.com> <871r7vrbez.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Vincent_Bela=C3=AFche?= Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 07:56:35 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5852: 23.1; Incorrect references in ses-mode To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5852 Cc: 5852@debbugs.gnu.org, =?UTF-8?Q?Vincent_Bela=C3=AFche?= , Stefan Kangas , =?UTF-8?Q?G=C3=B6ran_Uddeborg?= X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On more significant difference between the function bug-5852 and the example is the the initial size is (3 . 3) instead of (1. 1). This is because I speculated that only the last row insertion (C-o) plays a role. V. Le dim. 25 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 07:48, Vincent Bela=C3=AFche a =C3=A9crit : > > Just to add something : reading again SES code, and (info "(elisp) > Command Overview") I am a bit skeptical about the explanation in my > previous email. > It seems that only key strokes are queue, but command execution and > post command hook are in sequence, so not done concurrently. > I wrote this function to try to reproduce the bug, and on my office PC > it does not reproduce it: > > (defun bug-5852 ();;--- > "Check no irrelevant reference is created when a row is inserted and > a formula is yanked" > (interactive);;--- > (let ((ses-initial-size '(3 . 3))) > (with-temp-buffer > (ses-mode) > (dolist (val '( > (ses-edit-cell 0 1 1) > (ses-edit-cell 1 0 2) > (ses-edit-cell 1 1 (+ B1 A2)) > (ses-edit-cell 2 0 3) > (ses-edit-cell 2 1 (+ B2 A3)) > (ses-jump A3) > (ses-insert-row 1) > (ses-edit-cell 2 0 4) > (ses-jump B2) > )) > (apply 'funcall-interactively val) > (ses-command-hook)) > (let ((beg (point-marker))) > (ses-jump 'C2) ; C-n > (copy-region-as-kill beg (point) nil) > (set-marker beg nil)) > (dolist (val '( > (ses-jump B3) > (yank) > (ses-jump B4) > (yank) > )) > (apply 'funcall-interactively val) > (ses-command-hook)) > (ses-repair-cell-reference-all) > ))) > > Please note that the main difference with the provided example is that > motion is done with ses-jump, and not with motion commands. Also the > save to keyring is not done interatively. > V. > > Le sam. 24 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 23:46, Vincent Bela=C3=AFche > a =C3=A9crit : > > > > Hello Lars, > > > > Sorry for not making any feedback for so long, actually I was just > > distracted by some other business, and I somewhat had forgotten about > > it. > > > > I suspect a race condition between the post command hook and the next > > command. That is to say when one yanks the fomula (the first yank), > > one relocates the reference but for this one uses current references > > that have not yet been relocated because the previous post-command > > hook execution is not yet over. > > > > The bug does not show every time I do the experiment. I tried this > > morning with my office PC which is a fast machine, and it proved out > > quite hard to reproduce, even when I launched some big C program > > compilation in parallel to eat the mips. > > > > Next week I will do some experiment with my home PC which is quite > > quite slower, and I make some feedback. Unfortunateless both machine > > do not have the same emacs version, but anyway all changes in SES > > since the version on my home PC are not related to this bug, so > > nevertheless that will be a good indication whether my guess is > > correct. > > > > V. > > > > Le dim. 18 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 15:37, Lars Ingebrigtsen = a =C3=A9crit : > > > > > > Vincent Bela=C3=AFche writes: > > > > > > > I will investigate why and feed back once I have a better idea of w= hat > > > > is happening. > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > this was a year ago. Did you make any progress on this issue? > > > > > > -- > > > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) > > > bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 25 02:17:59 2021 Received: (at 5852) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jul 2021 06:18:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47370 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m7XSZ-0007fU-GU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 02:17:59 -0400 Received: from mail-pj1-f52.google.com ([209.85.216.52]:37391) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m7XSU-0007fE-Un for 5852@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 02:17:58 -0400 Received: by mail-pj1-f52.google.com with SMTP id a4-20020a17090aa504b0290176a0d2b67aso6591206pjq.2 for <5852@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 24 Jul 2021 23:17:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ta8lLRl3/Q4O0JwjsmVIQudiqgwKLUJ1vS5cvpwtOd0=; b=aQW796CFTMNcGm6G4gXq3OPW2hUbWRByj82tmQJPTfTMTn1qiSmizwJIdfJhWJJILs EI648+unOF+LNzmVYuxGWJP7vpN6GhZmSvCSto32mv7xmMuJlZQIoUxe9fl6XajPunhg F/yWPsjWbOmMGyhSptpa7LtNiEioy9TYb8x5YQ4Yg+Ft7EXqsWEkI6SrprH4LmCIUKJ1 +UfjS1zDvuWc7EeRYYPXBwVHTL4w20NKQ2kaV9SnNxIWUrrUIO/WCC8059IQViNkL+C3 PrZXaOz5uD9gbh5eqMDGM/C3gZ9h2JwL+TaaUqFfur4y2PKvPHeXANMJUAwwrKm7kAb0 LPUQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ta8lLRl3/Q4O0JwjsmVIQudiqgwKLUJ1vS5cvpwtOd0=; b=hg09cELP5w4esJ1LigoAJDkdm52JGb3Ockw3lof5WMdZenyojzSqhM/F+In2kMgzhZ cWhv1X7oNq/1u1BLfVzY9j/IqpDn/vGhyb36SB3FUk1ND+mWI9f3sxS0JkUrbZAxN1Kc YRh1lawxkfM/Iv/ITGHOUt6pCNhtLCfHww1HmjPx/jw1tK/XiwxB4CY0b8vCZjT/+X7J 4PJHHz+ryTuQvEGK1iyxXopXMWt/yx3aJh80VRH5cBQprbYcwDUgYVMRdOKgvvYLyDbg nDAIevhadQskqjr72ci+Ca4XUW0nlEu5+xLIGdirE/xgPaEFtrnDMKD3q7kWitNabd12 vKuQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531ZIZlM8y4YBdqKeVFscYFaqI5Vzn19GF1SOXrFWDagT1xQMVF3 1rR9oPRu69dFe4huvg7oLmukA1wZP3HiuBmgMHI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxBzegjR8Gm2KIOhRkQOPxoe6GlPUScpvpiZP7jAEb7naYbH4goPzt1GKe3Ycd7G6gMKFWFDwm1XC/EYlsp/Lo= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:8410:: with SMTP id j16mr11710653pjn.111.1627193869131; Sat, 24 Jul 2021 23:17:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <845zfpi242.fsf@gmail.com> <871r7vrbez.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Vincent_Bela=C3=AFche?= Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 08:17:37 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5852: 23.1; Incorrect references in ses-mode To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5852 Cc: 5852@debbugs.gnu.org, =?UTF-8?Q?Vincent_Bela=C3=AFche?= , Stefan Kangas , =?UTF-8?Q?G=C3=B6ran_Uddeborg?= X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) The same test function, but with comments : (defun bug-5852 ();;--- "Check no irrelevant reference is created when a row is inserted and a formula is yanked" (interactive);;--- (let ((ses-initial-size '(3 . 3))); size before last row insertion, due to all preceding TAB & C-o (with-temp-buffer (ses-mode) (dolist (val '( (ses-edit-cell 0 1 1) ; 1 RET (ses-edit-cell 1 0 2) ; 2 RET (ses-edit-cell 1 1 (+ B1 A2)) ; ( + SPC B1 SPC A2 RET (ses-edit-cell 2 0 3) ; 3 RET (ses-edit-cell 2 1 (+ B2 A3)) ; ( + SPC B2 SPC A3 RET (ses-jump A3) ; C-n (ses-insert-row 1) ; C-o (ses-edit-cell 2 0 4) ; 4 RET (ses-jump B2) ; C-p )) (apply 'funcall-interactively val) (ses-command-hook)) (let ((beg (point-marker))); C-SPC (ses-jump 'C2) ; C-f (copy-region-as-kill beg (point) nil); M-w (set-marker beg nil)) (dolist (val '( (ses-jump B3); C-n C-b (yank) ; C-y (ses-jump B4); C-n (yank); C-y )) (apply 'funcall-interactively val) (ses-command-hook)) (ses-repair-cell-reference-all) ))) Le dim. 25 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 07:56, Vincent Bela=C3=AFche a =C3=A9crit : > > On more significant difference between the function bug-5852 and the > example is the the initial size is (3 . 3) instead of (1. 1). This is > because I speculated that only the last row insertion (C-o) plays a > role. > > V. > > Le dim. 25 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 07:48, Vincent Bela=C3=AFche > a =C3=A9crit : > > > > Just to add something : reading again SES code, and (info "(elisp) > > Command Overview") I am a bit skeptical about the explanation in my > > previous email. > > It seems that only key strokes are queue, but command execution and > > post command hook are in sequence, so not done concurrently. > > I wrote this function to try to reproduce the bug, and on my office PC > > it does not reproduce it: > > > > (defun bug-5852 ();;--- > > "Check no irrelevant reference is created when a row is inserted and > > a formula is yanked" > > (interactive);;--- > > (let ((ses-initial-size '(3 . 3))) > > (with-temp-buffer > > (ses-mode) > > (dolist (val '( > > (ses-edit-cell 0 1 1) > > (ses-edit-cell 1 0 2) > > (ses-edit-cell 1 1 (+ B1 A2)) > > (ses-edit-cell 2 0 3) > > (ses-edit-cell 2 1 (+ B2 A3)) > > (ses-jump A3) > > (ses-insert-row 1) > > (ses-edit-cell 2 0 4) > > (ses-jump B2) > > )) > > (apply 'funcall-interactively val) > > (ses-command-hook)) > > (let ((beg (point-marker))) > > (ses-jump 'C2) ; C-n > > (copy-region-as-kill beg (point) nil) > > (set-marker beg nil)) > > (dolist (val '( > > (ses-jump B3) > > (yank) > > (ses-jump B4) > > (yank) > > )) > > (apply 'funcall-interactively val) > > (ses-command-hook)) > > (ses-repair-cell-reference-all) > > ))) > > > > Please note that the main difference with the provided example is that > > motion is done with ses-jump, and not with motion commands. Also the > > save to keyring is not done interatively. > > V. > > > > Le sam. 24 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 23:46, Vincent Bela=C3=AFche > > a =C3=A9crit : > > > > > > Hello Lars, > > > > > > Sorry for not making any feedback for so long, actually I was just > > > distracted by some other business, and I somewhat had forgotten about > > > it. > > > > > > I suspect a race condition between the post command hook and the next > > > command. That is to say when one yanks the fomula (the first yank), > > > one relocates the reference but for this one uses current references > > > that have not yet been relocated because the previous post-command > > > hook execution is not yet over. > > > > > > The bug does not show every time I do the experiment. I tried this > > > morning with my office PC which is a fast machine, and it proved out > > > quite hard to reproduce, even when I launched some big C program > > > compilation in parallel to eat the mips. > > > > > > Next week I will do some experiment with my home PC which is quite > > > quite slower, and I make some feedback. Unfortunateless both machine > > > do not have the same emacs version, but anyway all changes in SES > > > since the version on my home PC are not related to this bug, so > > > nevertheless that will be a good indication whether my guess is > > > correct. > > > > > > V. > > > > > > Le dim. 18 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 15:37, Lars Ingebrigtsen a =C3=A9crit : > > > > > > > > Vincent Bela=C3=AFche writes: > > > > > > > > > I will investigate why and feed back once I have a better idea of= what > > > > > is happening. > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > this was a year ago. Did you make any progress on this issue? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) > > > > bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 25 02:19:18 2021 Received: (at 5852) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jul 2021 06:19:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47382 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m7XTq-0007iM-7l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 02:19:18 -0400 Received: from mail-pl1-f177.google.com ([209.85.214.177]:46837) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m7XTo-0007i8-8G for 5852@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 02:19:17 -0400 Received: by mail-pl1-f177.google.com with SMTP id t21so7794844plr.13 for <5852@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 24 Jul 2021 23:19:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PmPidB5ZQsHk9vi9cRazHsAK7jjj4CUV+Nu06ZvIgSQ=; b=qHxj/+c88LcY1AvkAEhuBK1ZxEf9SfIb5ZFPgSM1+Dfbz5GKJkeeZ5RV55lmWQNhrv e/JSxW42s9hk/WMFU4KmCdchdV53ThopRGziXBlrg9vlK/MwvETMMwS1fsfaIoRHqzNw hpRW0iHtvioGbgnrMP9fmI9C+H6nIfk2nRWK4lsCObpcew/9j8oLaFuiQqnqioG9Q7wo 9ni8VVRsYxS8lpwX92UOKbW7+Cp16ZJX6FCR5zPiEtZ/3P6kwhPsYKNgltbhP7pL/zhI vBD29fV5RCQF1yLTeoh7ASAS31yFobcBRRI3HK3KP2qd8ZfoVcGWgRTAvYftfP8AkqI9 GPWA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PmPidB5ZQsHk9vi9cRazHsAK7jjj4CUV+Nu06ZvIgSQ=; b=Im3JHiCgqhCWWjxFc5I/xTiPjdPgeG6A2OvWLusBwPcF8jOkwsh4TynfYixXRQ2xXc ANHjQzvwZ+mgZgY3tSWJgHnAhTveGmOlYLSmrLsjPRGDgMA5ZGeEXy6ht1Wh4IheeOgK lw1U2pw9FI5+V2qVNHIA00cwfT7VYnSeIDN0DOJkkbpclx58UqEH6z1NEvfts15PFA5U uMtug1NACSRN3fCeOEfGHeFHjF09Y904487GoLNVn5XM78QOUTmn5vq+DkSeChme3ifx LNb++pJ0K+UaGxKUgPKa6gNk1zbv5/FYVeNPZk8c49a3aEIXqCZAIKssR9a3vYr+ydvU z3uw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533AWrM9l0wAFmYJEZxg3U6LAbvD067wAQNCJGHVEFxBrQMKwRsO fkpFOOcS0ZK0UJjua0o0KxjK3UbP2mHXRuC8dF8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzRCEH65GCxvXd4oK+LojGdf42DFfqi1zFIjtS3lJFSKqk8xRLh9UHFrNMhdde8B7LFDEapbPzXzi1rRXFhV70= X-Received: by 2002:a17:903:300b:b029:12b:db40:2cfb with SMTP id o11-20020a170903300bb029012bdb402cfbmr6662000pla.59.1627193950539; Sat, 24 Jul 2021 23:19:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <845zfpi242.fsf@gmail.com> <871r7vrbez.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Vincent_Bela=C3=AFche?= Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 08:18:59 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5852: 23.1; Incorrect references in ses-mode To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5852 Cc: 5852@debbugs.gnu.org, =?UTF-8?Q?Vincent_Bela=C3=AFche?= , Stefan Kangas , =?UTF-8?Q?G=C3=B6ran_Uddeborg?= X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) The bug-5852 test function does not reproduce the bug on my home PC either = =E2=80=A6 V. Le dim. 25 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 08:17, Vincent Bela=C3=AFche a =C3=A9crit : > > The same test function, but with comments : > > > (defun bug-5852 ();;--- > "Check no irrelevant reference is created when a row is inserted and > a formula is yanked" > (interactive);;--- > (let ((ses-initial-size '(3 . 3))); size before last row insertion, > due to all preceding TAB & C-o > (with-temp-buffer > (ses-mode) > (dolist (val '( > (ses-edit-cell 0 1 1) ; 1 RET > (ses-edit-cell 1 0 2) ; 2 RET > (ses-edit-cell 1 1 (+ B1 A2)) ; ( + SPC B1 SPC A2 RET > (ses-edit-cell 2 0 3) ; 3 RET > (ses-edit-cell 2 1 (+ B2 A3)) ; ( + SPC B2 SPC A3 RET > (ses-jump A3) ; C-n > (ses-insert-row 1) ; C-o > (ses-edit-cell 2 0 4) ; 4 RET > (ses-jump B2) ; C-p > )) > (apply 'funcall-interactively val) > (ses-command-hook)) > (let ((beg (point-marker))); C-SPC > (ses-jump 'C2) ; C-f > (copy-region-as-kill beg (point) nil); M-w > (set-marker beg nil)) > (dolist (val '( > (ses-jump B3); C-n C-b > (yank) ; C-y > (ses-jump B4); C-n > (yank); C-y > )) > (apply 'funcall-interactively val) > (ses-command-hook)) > (ses-repair-cell-reference-all) > ))) > > Le dim. 25 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 07:56, Vincent Bela=C3=AFche > a =C3=A9crit : > > > > On more significant difference between the function bug-5852 and the > > example is the the initial size is (3 . 3) instead of (1. 1). This is > > because I speculated that only the last row insertion (C-o) plays a > > role. > > > > V. > > > > Le dim. 25 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 07:48, Vincent Bela=C3=AFche > > a =C3=A9crit : > > > > > > Just to add something : reading again SES code, and (info "(elisp) > > > Command Overview") I am a bit skeptical about the explanation in my > > > previous email. > > > It seems that only key strokes are queue, but command execution and > > > post command hook are in sequence, so not done concurrently. > > > I wrote this function to try to reproduce the bug, and on my office P= C > > > it does not reproduce it: > > > > > > (defun bug-5852 ();;--- > > > "Check no irrelevant reference is created when a row is inserted an= d > > > a formula is yanked" > > > (interactive);;--- > > > (let ((ses-initial-size '(3 . 3))) > > > (with-temp-buffer > > > (ses-mode) > > > (dolist (val '( > > > (ses-edit-cell 0 1 1) > > > (ses-edit-cell 1 0 2) > > > (ses-edit-cell 1 1 (+ B1 A2)) > > > (ses-edit-cell 2 0 3) > > > (ses-edit-cell 2 1 (+ B2 A3)) > > > (ses-jump A3) > > > (ses-insert-row 1) > > > (ses-edit-cell 2 0 4) > > > (ses-jump B2) > > > )) > > > (apply 'funcall-interactively val) > > > (ses-command-hook)) > > > (let ((beg (point-marker))) > > > (ses-jump 'C2) ; C-n > > > (copy-region-as-kill beg (point) nil) > > > (set-marker beg nil)) > > > (dolist (val '( > > > (ses-jump B3) > > > (yank) > > > (ses-jump B4) > > > (yank) > > > )) > > > (apply 'funcall-interactively val) > > > (ses-command-hook)) > > > (ses-repair-cell-reference-all) > > > ))) > > > > > > Please note that the main difference with the provided example is tha= t > > > motion is done with ses-jump, and not with motion commands. Also the > > > save to keyring is not done interatively. > > > V. > > > > > > Le sam. 24 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 23:46, Vincent Bela=C3=AFche > > > a =C3=A9crit : > > > > > > > > Hello Lars, > > > > > > > > Sorry for not making any feedback for so long, actually I was just > > > > distracted by some other business, and I somewhat had forgotten abo= ut > > > > it. > > > > > > > > I suspect a race condition between the post command hook and the ne= xt > > > > command. That is to say when one yanks the fomula (the first yank), > > > > one relocates the reference but for this one uses current reference= s > > > > that have not yet been relocated because the previous post-command > > > > hook execution is not yet over. > > > > > > > > The bug does not show every time I do the experiment. I tried this > > > > morning with my office PC which is a fast machine, and it proved ou= t > > > > quite hard to reproduce, even when I launched some big C program > > > > compilation in parallel to eat the mips. > > > > > > > > Next week I will do some experiment with my home PC which is quite > > > > quite slower, and I make some feedback. Unfortunateless both machin= e > > > > do not have the same emacs version, but anyway all changes in SES > > > > since the version on my home PC are not related to this bug, so > > > > nevertheless that will be a good indication whether my guess is > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > V. > > > > > > > > Le dim. 18 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 15:37, Lars Ingebrigtsen a =C3=A9crit : > > > > > > > > > > Vincent Bela=C3=AFche writes: > > > > > > > > > > > I will investigate why and feed back once I have a better idea = of what > > > > > > is happening. > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > this was a year ago. Did you make any progress on this issue? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) > > > > > bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 25 02:32:33 2021 Received: (at 5852) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jul 2021 06:32:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47391 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m7Xgf-00082z-04 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 02:32:33 -0400 Received: from mail-pl1-f169.google.com ([209.85.214.169]:42877) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m7XgZ-00082i-Uh for 5852@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 02:32:31 -0400 Received: by mail-pl1-f169.google.com with SMTP id i1so7938679plr.9 for <5852@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 24 Jul 2021 23:32:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kua4C2lfrYBbBYQtiymrsxKSFoLBD3Qk7j53aPWZDYU=; b=Qg78cC8oI3KPOPofCMfNsxgv4KvLIG7jMhu1qMBy5YtAe8jXXaU/DeUotMVJiXrcVc T/yC3SIkF9JlH5QBILS81ZHxSYr4ZSVTye1W+3EJtXC+WDsS5L/H9jh1isi8J2+miCnJ pabBgih+bTTcCyHSWkrcrHVJJ2eRLhtrN6ZegegPbYYWxEMDbVdU/K/u4YOcOvjmux28 S1M6sz/hJ6GHPRi3DSQ+EN27cHIbV8HUEBEoAgwECQa6YpgIfvvWECZRBa699Nw/kaHJ CPJy2NTefXPky7FGJHB/TDgHbcYI3iNDGY1OM2+T8yOSf+J59jrBwlNIaYOeXnwd3/A/ T3fA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kua4C2lfrYBbBYQtiymrsxKSFoLBD3Qk7j53aPWZDYU=; b=SjQbtgvvYuXFt5opCfa6dSjOV/GGT1dsCirEHotIQLeTtAl5kyjgFZmUdkH03brXss ZFgtPru0DSJtm9c4/XE0qQI7x8bt78md7oBusMw86uHTxYMhx9OmwPRETTvifuEV0ucn MR2Ks6TUy1FTvHudtcpZweca61gAEz/N9KtD/tG15YyQ/430V9GmHbIqH6TpS28PE0Ok XriybPa/SdXaB5Hx9K2EYYeRTNujd8KbIC+ufzax+0OmdRDbYTkShqll35AQJLgEMjET 3Q/SmL7dD8WJD+gbnaM3H4kdHdfiASqKDkjTUMqq7PrsOfcwMHbHFHBmU7vhbr6NovK9 PAxw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532cZdoZYuoBVW2SUwqe+SS42qe+aac4yIIAOTe1YTTyd/gBAjK0 ppstGyEe4od/aHrR1HXeB430G52UoRHMenE5SJ0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy1P0DVDuTY6JL8fVLxwjjmHUgUGSLJdbeK9j3fuVAFbdlSENFlcwSsUO8JPUtn2c4/S6Pd8pxX1c1S9IfmDT0= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:ce02:: with SMTP id f2mr20740303pju.232.1627194742057; Sat, 24 Jul 2021 23:32:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <845zfpi242.fsf@gmail.com> <871r7vrbez.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Vincent_Bela=C3=AFche?= Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 08:32:10 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5852: 23.1; Incorrect references in ses-mode To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5852 Cc: 5852@debbugs.gnu.org, =?UTF-8?Q?Vincent_Bela=C3=AFche?= , Stefan Kangas , =?UTF-8?Q?G=C3=B6ran_Uddeborg?= X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) By doing the test manually on my home PC I found some interesting difference. After 2 RET on my home PC the cursor goes to the end of buffer narrowed region, while on my office PC it goes to B2. This means that the TAB that follows won't the same effect. On my home PC it creates a 3rd row, while on my office PC it creates the 3rd column. I found the reason why so : my home PC had some customization for the ses-after-entry-functions. After erasing customization I had the same behaviour =E2=80=A6 Anyway, that does not affect the bug-5852 test function as it only uses ses-jump for motion. V. Le dim. 25 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 08:18, Vincent Bela=C3=AFche a =C3=A9crit : > > The bug-5852 test function does not reproduce the bug on my home PC eithe= r =E2=80=A6 > V. > > Le dim. 25 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 08:17, Vincent Bela=C3=AFche > a =C3=A9crit : > > > > The same test function, but with comments : > > > > > > (defun bug-5852 ();;--- > > "Check no irrelevant reference is created when a row is inserted and > > a formula is yanked" > > (interactive);;--- > > (let ((ses-initial-size '(3 . 3))); size before last row insertion, > > due to all preceding TAB & C-o > > (with-temp-buffer > > (ses-mode) > > (dolist (val '( > > (ses-edit-cell 0 1 1) ; 1 RET > > (ses-edit-cell 1 0 2) ; 2 RET > > (ses-edit-cell 1 1 (+ B1 A2)) ; ( + SPC B1 SPC A2 RE= T > > (ses-edit-cell 2 0 3) ; 3 RET > > (ses-edit-cell 2 1 (+ B2 A3)) ; ( + SPC B2 SPC A3 RE= T > > (ses-jump A3) ; C-n > > (ses-insert-row 1) ; C-o > > (ses-edit-cell 2 0 4) ; 4 RET > > (ses-jump B2) ; C-p > > )) > > (apply 'funcall-interactively val) > > (ses-command-hook)) > > (let ((beg (point-marker))); C-SPC > > (ses-jump 'C2) ; C-f > > (copy-region-as-kill beg (point) nil); M-w > > (set-marker beg nil)) > > (dolist (val '( > > (ses-jump B3); C-n C-b > > (yank) ; C-y > > (ses-jump B4); C-n > > (yank); C-y > > )) > > (apply 'funcall-interactively val) > > (ses-command-hook)) > > (ses-repair-cell-reference-all) > > ))) > > > > Le dim. 25 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 07:56, Vincent Bela=C3=AFche > > a =C3=A9crit : > > > > > > On more significant difference between the function bug-5852 and the > > > example is the the initial size is (3 . 3) instead of (1. 1). This is > > > because I speculated that only the last row insertion (C-o) plays a > > > role. > > > > > > V. > > > > > > Le dim. 25 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 07:48, Vincent Bela=C3=AFche > > > a =C3=A9crit : > > > > > > > > Just to add something : reading again SES code, and (info "(elisp) > > > > Command Overview") I am a bit skeptical about the explanation in my > > > > previous email. > > > > It seems that only key strokes are queue, but command execution and > > > > post command hook are in sequence, so not done concurrently. > > > > I wrote this function to try to reproduce the bug, and on my office= PC > > > > it does not reproduce it: > > > > > > > > (defun bug-5852 ();;--- > > > > "Check no irrelevant reference is created when a row is inserted = and > > > > a formula is yanked" > > > > (interactive);;--- > > > > (let ((ses-initial-size '(3 . 3))) > > > > (with-temp-buffer > > > > (ses-mode) > > > > (dolist (val '( > > > > (ses-edit-cell 0 1 1) > > > > (ses-edit-cell 1 0 2) > > > > (ses-edit-cell 1 1 (+ B1 A2)) > > > > (ses-edit-cell 2 0 3) > > > > (ses-edit-cell 2 1 (+ B2 A3)) > > > > (ses-jump A3) > > > > (ses-insert-row 1) > > > > (ses-edit-cell 2 0 4) > > > > (ses-jump B2) > > > > )) > > > > (apply 'funcall-interactively val) > > > > (ses-command-hook)) > > > > (let ((beg (point-marker))) > > > > (ses-jump 'C2) ; C-n > > > > (copy-region-as-kill beg (point) nil) > > > > (set-marker beg nil)) > > > > (dolist (val '( > > > > (ses-jump B3) > > > > (yank) > > > > (ses-jump B4) > > > > (yank) > > > > )) > > > > (apply 'funcall-interactively val) > > > > (ses-command-hook)) > > > > (ses-repair-cell-reference-all) > > > > ))) > > > > > > > > Please note that the main difference with the provided example is t= hat > > > > motion is done with ses-jump, and not with motion commands. Also th= e > > > > save to keyring is not done interatively. > > > > V. > > > > > > > > Le sam. 24 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 23:46, Vincent Bela=C3=AFche > > > > a =C3=A9crit : > > > > > > > > > > Hello Lars, > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for not making any feedback for so long, actually I was jus= t > > > > > distracted by some other business, and I somewhat had forgotten a= bout > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > I suspect a race condition between the post command hook and the = next > > > > > command. That is to say when one yanks the fomula (the first yank= ), > > > > > one relocates the reference but for this one uses current referen= ces > > > > > that have not yet been relocated because the previous post-comman= d > > > > > hook execution is not yet over. > > > > > > > > > > The bug does not show every time I do the experiment. I tried thi= s > > > > > morning with my office PC which is a fast machine, and it proved = out > > > > > quite hard to reproduce, even when I launched some big C program > > > > > compilation in parallel to eat the mips. > > > > > > > > > > Next week I will do some experiment with my home PC which is quit= e > > > > > quite slower, and I make some feedback. Unfortunateless both mach= ine > > > > > do not have the same emacs version, but anyway all changes in SES > > > > > since the version on my home PC are not related to this bug, so > > > > > nevertheless that will be a good indication whether my guess is > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > V. > > > > > > > > > > Le dim. 18 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 15:37, Lars Ingebrigtsen a =C3=A9crit : > > > > > > > > > > > > Vincent Bela=C3=AFche writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will investigate why and feed back once I have a better ide= a of what > > > > > > > is happening. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > this was a year ago. 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That is quite annoying, yesterday I reproduced it on my office PC once. V. Le dim. 25 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 08:32, Vincent Bela=C3=AFche a =C3=A9crit : > > By doing the test manually on my home PC I found some interesting > difference. After > > 2 RET > > on my home PC the cursor goes to the end of buffer narrowed region, > while on my office PC it goes to B2. This means that the TAB that > follows won't the same effect. On my home PC it creates a 3rd row, > while on my office PC it creates the 3rd column. > I found the reason why so : my home PC had some customization for the > ses-after-entry-functions. After erasing customization I had the same > behaviour =E2=80=A6 > Anyway, that does not affect the bug-5852 test function as it only > uses ses-jump for motion. > V. > > Le dim. 25 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 08:18, Vincent Bela=C3=AFche > a =C3=A9crit : > > > > The bug-5852 test function does not reproduce the bug on my home PC eit= her =E2=80=A6 > > V. > > > > Le dim. 25 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 08:17, Vincent Bela=C3=AFche > > a =C3=A9crit : > > > > > > The same test function, but with comments : > > > > > > > > > (defun bug-5852 ();;--- > > > "Check no irrelevant reference is created when a row is inserted an= d > > > a formula is yanked" > > > (interactive);;--- > > > (let ((ses-initial-size '(3 . 3))); size before last row insertion, > > > due to all preceding TAB & C-o > > > (with-temp-buffer > > > (ses-mode) > > > (dolist (val '( > > > (ses-edit-cell 0 1 1) ; 1 RET > > > (ses-edit-cell 1 0 2) ; 2 RET > > > (ses-edit-cell 1 1 (+ B1 A2)) ; ( + SPC B1 SPC A2 = RET > > > (ses-edit-cell 2 0 3) ; 3 RET > > > (ses-edit-cell 2 1 (+ B2 A3)) ; ( + SPC B2 SPC A3 = RET > > > (ses-jump A3) ; C-n > > > (ses-insert-row 1) ; C-o > > > (ses-edit-cell 2 0 4) ; 4 RET > > > (ses-jump B2) ; C-p > > > )) > > > (apply 'funcall-interactively val) > > > (ses-command-hook)) > > > (let ((beg (point-marker))); C-SPC > > > (ses-jump 'C2) ; C-f > > > (copy-region-as-kill beg (point) nil); M-w > > > (set-marker beg nil)) > > > (dolist (val '( > > > (ses-jump B3); C-n C-b > > > (yank) ; C-y > > > (ses-jump B4); C-n > > > (yank); C-y > > > )) > > > (apply 'funcall-interactively val) > > > (ses-command-hook)) > > > (ses-repair-cell-reference-all) > > > ))) > > > > > > Le dim. 25 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 07:56, Vincent Bela=C3=AFche > > > a =C3=A9crit : > > > > > > > > On more significant difference between the function bug-5852 and th= e > > > > example is the the initial size is (3 . 3) instead of (1. 1). This = is > > > > because I speculated that only the last row insertion (C-o) plays a > > > > role. > > > > > > > > V. > > > > > > > > Le dim. 25 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 07:48, Vincent Bela=C3=AFche > > > > a =C3=A9crit : > > > > > > > > > > Just to add something : reading again SES code, and (info "(elisp= ) > > > > > Command Overview") I am a bit skeptical about the explanation in = my > > > > > previous email. > > > > > It seems that only key strokes are queue, but command execution a= nd > > > > > post command hook are in sequence, so not done concurrently. > > > > > I wrote this function to try to reproduce the bug, and on my offi= ce PC > > > > > it does not reproduce it: > > > > > > > > > > (defun bug-5852 ();;--- > > > > > "Check no irrelevant reference is created when a row is inserte= d and > > > > > a formula is yanked" > > > > > (interactive);;--- > > > > > (let ((ses-initial-size '(3 . 3))) > > > > > (with-temp-buffer > > > > > (ses-mode) > > > > > (dolist (val '( > > > > > (ses-edit-cell 0 1 1) > > > > > (ses-edit-cell 1 0 2) > > > > > (ses-edit-cell 1 1 (+ B1 A2)) > > > > > (ses-edit-cell 2 0 3) > > > > > (ses-edit-cell 2 1 (+ B2 A3)) > > > > > (ses-jump A3) > > > > > (ses-insert-row 1) > > > > > (ses-edit-cell 2 0 4) > > > > > (ses-jump B2) > > > > > )) > > > > > (apply 'funcall-interactively val) > > > > > (ses-command-hook)) > > > > > (let ((beg (point-marker))) > > > > > (ses-jump 'C2) ; C-n > > > > > (copy-region-as-kill beg (point) nil) > > > > > (set-marker beg nil)) > > > > > (dolist (val '( > > > > > (ses-jump B3) > > > > > (yank) > > > > > (ses-jump B4) > > > > > (yank) > > > > > )) > > > > > (apply 'funcall-interactively val) > > > > > (ses-command-hook)) > > > > > (ses-repair-cell-reference-all) > > > > > ))) > > > > > > > > > > Please note that the main difference with the provided example is= that > > > > > motion is done with ses-jump, and not with motion commands. Also = the > > > > > save to keyring is not done interatively. > > > > > V. > > > > > > > > > > Le sam. 24 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 23:46, Vincent Bela=C3=AFche > > > > > a =C3=A9crit : > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Lars, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for not making any feedback for so long, actually I was j= ust > > > > > > distracted by some other business, and I somewhat had forgotten= about > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect a race condition between the post command hook and th= e next > > > > > > command. That is to say when one yanks the fomula (the first ya= nk), > > > > > > one relocates the reference but for this one uses current refer= ences > > > > > > that have not yet been relocated because the previous post-comm= and > > > > > > hook execution is not yet over. > > > > > > > > > > > > The bug does not show every time I do the experiment. I tried t= his > > > > > > morning with my office PC which is a fast machine, and it prove= d out > > > > > > quite hard to reproduce, even when I launched some big C progra= m > > > > > > compilation in parallel to eat the mips. > > > > > > > > > > > > Next week I will do some experiment with my home PC which is qu= ite > > > > > > quite slower, and I make some feedback. Unfortunateless both ma= chine > > > > > > do not have the same emacs version, but anyway all changes in S= ES > > > > > > since the version on my home PC are not related to this bug, so > > > > > > nevertheless that will be a good indication whether my guess is > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > V. > > > > > > > > > > > > Le dim. 18 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 15:37, Lars Ingebrigtsen a =C3=A9crit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vincent Bela=C3=AFche writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will investigate why and feed back once I have a better i= dea of what > > > > > > > > is happening. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this was a year ago. Did you make any progress on this issue= ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) > > > > > > > bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 25 02:44:20 2021 Received: (at 5852) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jul 2021 06:44:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47427 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m7Xs3-0008M2-V1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 02:44:20 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:41504) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m7Xs2-0008Lp-Pf for 5852@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 02:44:19 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=BVwk9I59YfYQ+hfqMt+d4uO6ad67XrwLURkxlrExL4s=; b=rvuaQYvYh8BukK76mR7rX3y33m 43uU11hvvXd5JHzI0s0MACzO+cxblJmr8jW53IGwcOPwc4GsY4h2WZH54w8RMPTwZV9mMqnyWpBpR mEbTt9EwE+3zDm6DhFjqN89ehSbjhZ03zPAEackhdkOe3U+M19xy6dd+/+2hZ9Gb4E40=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m7Xrr-0006EM-EB; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 08:44:09 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Vincent =?utf-8?Q?Bela=C3=AFche?= Subject: Re: bug#5852: 23.1; Incorrect references in ses-mode References: <845zfpi242.fsf@gmail.com> <871r7vrbez.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: Prince's _Sign 'O' the Times (2)_: "Adore" Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 08:44:06 +0200 In-Reply-To: ("Vincent =?utf-8?Q?Bela=C3=AFche=22's?= message of "Sun, 25 Jul 2021 08:38:26 +0200") Message-ID: <8735s2zydl.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Vincent Belaïche writes: > Just to say that I did the test manually on my home PC a couple of > time, and I could not reproduce the problem. > That is quite annoying, yesterday I reproduced it on my office PC once. 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Yeah, timing dependent bugs are really annoying to try to debug.. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 25 13:27:40 2021 Received: (at 5852) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jul 2021 17:27:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49319 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m7hue-0001vm-EK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 13:27:40 -0400 Received: from mail-pl1-f171.google.com ([209.85.214.171]:36850) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m7huc-0001vY-QW for 5852@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 13:27:39 -0400 Received: by mail-pl1-f171.google.com with SMTP id i10so5780097pla.3 for <5852@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 10:27:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1ckkBBG1DgYjhQKZ7ebJrQfX01GcFmbVhtDCmpPug2E=; b=GGlO3Ce3e/dU7rFUdluNfq9Dabma+8XQsl86xyOt1tNdz1NfFFq1NtGdMk/UIr9pc7 q2l5JYgsb6Myy/+JgHhQunqUaNt3yD3NEhI11f4bTKsx1N/9qKxFyXvkBd/oSWKRDgNQ x5O/E75zEkPaIHvMTHZOQT0kDLxtZuKSjYfPu8IBwySxw1Ubhpmu7dGj+7QrXFNfcmMr eNP7yNBnmxmkFXdIg4B8wPlJdrzRnTh6xhCPj+kjexrQaYHQFPUpUpkFGfsGcHeBD4wY ln2afqYNIaNA6p026zS4QIWX2N5OE0m+uxoCZPp2OnLxlxGAwLE0vNWgt6gzLL4+66Sq rlGg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1ckkBBG1DgYjhQKZ7ebJrQfX01GcFmbVhtDCmpPug2E=; b=X5me9edxFeuDchrM/Xf5mjU7dVDTFZb/rOtwD4455AqnHQ5MuZvTEPKYtNApzyysYs EpcsgS0KJ/Eea6x0IZdJTUDWlgCzvTshpkHQf6cQrmKdg6GVmJ5X1maS6D6/lrZ6Gott lQxNX4wHibNl//MqEO1Dz6e9WofLHaw04XMOw7F/V7l5XtG4a3qj4Xqrx/VWJ7baD/Ox LEBc7tNaVPc1NjmK/vHqsOzGBD8mP1Q7WJ7A1/jCKnfxnrpvtEIAyR1veKi7i+IEj6yC GXOOnPLoQ8ZCGSaDv7zBKdBrKG99Eh1wFJ4fievKePaHRZxzdEICUH3T1wbfvATMNtY5 E6UA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531EWBizYRAXyN7BX/yCwXajaWBnXpLQkGfjKdfOD+I17abpepO4 5GuijppqVuKNxM8bNeZq4elIVfO2W526NGIRne4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx+vrdhsvLHe5t/mrnSsXP75rwP2Sc0TgDHDiQnOWRlULGB2VEpglebLekD7Yja2w4vaCYZFdk+Cj77J+kajRA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:cc1:b029:32b:8465:9b59 with SMTP id b1-20020a056a000cc1b029032b84659b59mr14237027pfv.66.1627234052720; Sun, 25 Jul 2021 10:27:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <845zfpi242.fsf@gmail.com> <871r7vrbez.fsf@gnus.org> <8735s2zydl.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <8735s2zydl.fsf@gnus.org> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Vincent_Bela=C3=AFche?= Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:27:21 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5852: 23.1; Incorrect references in ses-mode To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Stefan Monnier Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5852 Cc: Stefan Kangas , =?UTF-8?Q?Vincent_Bela=C3=AFche?= , 5852@debbugs.gnu.org, =?UTF-8?Q?G=C3=B6ran_Uddeborg?= X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dear Stefan (Monnier), I am calling to your deep knowledge of Emacs internals. We have a bug which seems to be real time dependant, which makes me think that there is some race condition somewhere. I think it can't be any race between the command and the post-command hook, because they are run sequentially in the command loop : post-command hook of command N does not overlap command N+1, please confirm =E2=80=A6 Now, I have another speculation : SES gets the current cell from the cursor position by reading some buffer text property 'cursor-intangible. I speculate that the radix of the bug is that when a command sets this cursor property, then the buffer is actually modified in the backgroun, and the change may not be yet in effect when the next command runs. Could you confirm / infirm this speculation. One more thing is the following : in SES the cursor-intangile property is the symbol corresponding to the cell object (which under the hood is a vector), not the cell object itself. This means that the property has to change when there are row/column insertion / deletion, which also inherently change the buffer, because of symbol relocation. I think this might be some bad design choice, and pointing directly at the cell object would have saved some troubles (and probably would also create a bunch of other problems, so do not take my statement for sure). Of course the idea of using symbols makes sense as they make it easy for the formulas, and as such some sort of relocation is unavoidable. On the other hand, the cell index (say (0 0) for A1, (0 1) for B1, (1 0) for A2, etc=E2=80=A6), is retrieved from a property of the cell symbol, so things are a bit intricate =E2=80=A6 Vincent. Le dim. 25 juil. 2021 =C3=A0 08:44, Lars Ingebrigtsen a = =C3=A9crit : > > Vincent Bela=C3=AFche writes: > > > Just to say that I did the test manually on my home PC a couple of > > time, and I could not reproduce the problem. > > That is quite annoying, yesterday I reproduced it on my office PC once. > > Yeah, timing dependent bugs are really annoying to try to debug.. > > -- > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) > bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 30 17:01:41 2021 Received: (at 5852) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jul 2021 21:01:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32835 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m9ZdV-0001B9-G2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2021 17:01:41 -0400 Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:22703) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m9ZdT-0001Aw-MQ for 5852@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2021 17:01:40 -0400 Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 93D8F100221; Fri, 30 Jul 2021 17:01:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id E13941001E8; Fri, 30 Jul 2021 17:01:30 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1627678890; bh=V3JrspgM5evauSTBI+GfTQxBmP2Gvnsy8FNwfouJHxA=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=jGoOPDjWiMuSBhA3qBcF+e8FtxXzwHH2Qfd9TceOheEeHvqXnoAxtCKMT/H8O+b3G 3zno+0s/nsEOpYbJNo0fjIRJuwc0gwpTgoSCikuhHcpVXv3y89EuhnaqkXWOunLW8c IbtliyV0M/LHTT5zJbmL0I+7xXEXxwXs1zM/jogGEIUEYBYCCEgYl17Ym2I3CHLUQc 8b0bVTEfxsFUNMC8VAVGWg62TE7BPmjv+ng6TmGsCjhv9bwW+8MnXcYkquPwOEkMRK kAN3B2vKJnukUBOa2z+qrg3ZTpMDAFCgWAK/jI38qFDFAnrQuX8fbSR8fsOhdpueE3 CgwpJ3AbyirJw== Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.29.138]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 93924120208; Fri, 30 Jul 2021 17:01:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Vincent =?windows-1252?Q?Bela=EFche?= Subject: Re: bug#5852: 23.1; Incorrect references in ses-mode Message-ID: References: <845zfpi242.fsf@gmail.com> <871r7vrbez.fsf@gnus.org> <8735s2zydl.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 17:01:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: ("Vincent =?windows-1252?Q?Bela=EFche=22's?= message of "Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:27:21 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-SPAM-INFO: Spam detection results: 0 ALL_TRUSTED -1 Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP AWL -0.093 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address BAYES_00 -1.9 Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% DKIM_SIGNED 0.1 Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid DKIM_VALID -0.1 Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature DKIM_VALID_AU -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain X-SPAM-LEVEL: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5852 Cc: Stefan Kangas , Lars Ingebrigtsen , Vincent =?windows-1252?Q?Bela=EFche?= , 5852@debbugs.gnu.org, =?windows-1252?Q?G=F6ran?= Uddeborg X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > are run sequentially in the command loop : post-command hook of > command N does not overlap command N+1, please confirm =E2=80=A6 That's usually true, yes. There can be exceptions when command N itself can run commands during execution, via a recursive command-loop (e.g. query&replace uses that, or minibuffer interactions). > Now, I have another speculation : SES gets the current cell from the > cursor position by reading some buffer text property > 'cursor-intangible. I speculate that the radix of the bug is that when > a command sets this cursor property, then the buffer is actually > modified in the backgroun, and the change may not be yet in effect > when the next command runs. Could you confirm / infirm this > speculation. Hmm... no that doesn't sound right. Emacs does try to do a few things in the background, but it's quite limited (things like `font-lock`, basically). When a property like `cursor-intangible` is set, it happens immediately. > One more thing is the following : in SES the cursor-intangile property > is the symbol corresponding to the cell object (which under the hood > is a vector), not the cell object itself. This means that the property > has to change when there are row/column insertion / deletion, which > also inherently change the buffer, because of symbol relocation. I > think this might be some bad design choice, and pointing directly at > the cell object would have saved some troubles (and probably would > also create a bunch of other problems, so do not take my statement for > sure). Indeed, pointing directly at the cell's vector would probably be better (at least from the point of view of insertions/deletions but), but if so, each cell would probably need to contain its own name (or its coordinates). 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[...] > > One more thing is the following : in SES the cursor-intangile property > > is the symbol corresponding to the cell object (which under the hood > > is a vector), not the cell object itself. This means that the property > > has to change when there are row/column insertion / deletion, which > > also inherently change the buffer, because of symbol relocation. I > > think this might be some bad design choice, and pointing directly at > > the cell object would have saved some troubles (and probably would > > also create a bunch of other problems, so do not take my statement for > > sure). > > Indeed, pointing directly at the cell's vector would probably be better > (at least from the point of view of insertions/deletions but), but if > so, each cell would probably need to contain its own name (or its > coordinates). > > > Stefan > What you wrote confirms my gut feeling. I came to this conclusion as I was thinking how to implement functions such as row transposition. FYI, AFAIK, the cell already contains the corresponding symbol, and the (row, col) coordinates can be derived from the symbol through the ses-cell symbol property. V. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 29 07:03:27 2023 Received: (at 5852) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Dec 2023 12:03:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40840 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rJBaJ-0004PV-B8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2023 07:03:27 -0500 Received: from mail-yw1-x112f.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::112f]:47295) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rJBaG-0004PH-Th for 5852@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2023 07:03:25 -0500 Received: by mail-yw1-x112f.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-5e745891a69so54253597b3.2 for <5852@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 29 Dec 2023 04:03:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1703851399; x=1704456199; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=SUtow/fEBYGjjYkD33HhxSDbGNc2aews9q38soeLaJc=; b=QwFhA2wUe2WeuM+Txh4VMLujg14+yaAeR3S2B7I3TCNVoqDPBNZyY1wpa8HKcFrpYR JHhXGSikcchbaXAYaeFSDPvK8iE1AmrWU4+VJP7gOjrmpaqkSBVBOemgBMgTQmqLCo0u aQ/Lg7T3mW1sZWZG+nD3RlHTkFVolIcFGG2M7jkCrrGRXBIk6e3b+mZ8++cxIYCf2R3b +gZF064RDsysZPyZoQHohgmmDSDmJYpsuGrK+LUHSQ5I2Eq3NW/XrgbHQYmVvVP2QLZG uoxkKD7HGP6/vbDPXDpwyDRIrGbjS8n+okvYbkvcMjypf7yLq1U3Eqw0qi8W/EhO+rDy BJwA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1703851399; x=1704456199; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=SUtow/fEBYGjjYkD33HhxSDbGNc2aews9q38soeLaJc=; b=TfVnhfu518LzkWux73aOs789ZDCvRdPWseYj8uc6n/FrA1gZr+7FXX4Qn263WdSnx+ xOch1N7dfSgGQncLXuLtgzYswLmITnFDc997WPaSveKNferZ9CUT7JlRJ3yU83MnjxYz BYurg8sYvRxEp0AlIVg5OlIUntwYamIYMPuVsIshwuttUlLHuHF2XqD/Lcnbc9nWe/E7 D63gcZDPLJbebqXjan4EjbQFq8tg9yAn1OtmhbrdlLC5wT19YLAAYdlA+EsqLdu68eys xVTDR9uOvnx4zkgQECfHQXjici4tstWHU5d1ZGTFHOl1uirUwC40seGBhBaMoMh2gRC3 CL3w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyYgdf37Z4wSPbQZWbHLEE2N8o6BTUxfyu8J94udl40Racu222u cr8g23fjr7P8QdXHnAZuzzNhw817JR4Nx8IkCWI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFMsJExzGP8jLBwq/TpmcaUwaI4lTjFDE1x8JOFNDm4awnsvt2jo+krNneOYPXPyS+c3+jSWeLrBDxmqNcGJCo= X-Received: by 2002:a81:73c2:0:b0:5de:a315:b72c with SMTP id o185-20020a8173c2000000b005dea315b72cmr7659906ywc.95.1703851399023; Fri, 29 Dec 2023 04:03:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <845zfpi242.fsf@gmail.com> <871r7vrbez.fsf@gnus.org> <8735s2zydl.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <8735s2zydl.fsf@gnus.org> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Vincent_Bela=C3=AFche?= Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2023 13:03:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5852: 23.1; Incorrect references in ses-mode To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Stefan Kangas Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5852 Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?G=C3=B6ran_Uddeborg?= , =?UTF-8?Q?Vincent_Bela=C3=AFche?= , 5852@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dear all, I am _very very_ glad to a announce that I have fixed bug#5852 ! I just pushed the fix to master now. Thank you again to G=C3=B6ran for the report, without which this would not have been impossible. The bug was only loosely time dependent. What happened is that the data area update is deferred on the command hook, if I try to reproduce the bug by doing some kdb macro, it seems that the command hook is not called in between the two yanks, and this hides the bug. That was my mistake during my first investigation. Translating the manual to French helped me be more aware of all the arcanes of SES. The root cause of the bug has nothing to do with copy/cut/paste, it was far deeper, the formula setting function was bugged, as it did not registered cells the reference list of which is changed by the formula setting as needing rewrite to the data area ! It was hard to realized where the bug was, because the data structures in memory was OK, but there was a discrepancy between the data areay and the data structures, so the bugs only gets manifest when you reload a sheet --- or as in the new test if you call ses-mode again. So as long as you do not reload a sheet everything is OK. @Stefan Kangas is there any record book for longest lived bugs, maybe I can get a prize for this 13 years old bug, unless Richard has left some bug form the 1970 or so version of Emacs :-P ? Happy end of year to you all ! Vincent. 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I > just pushed the fix to master now. > > Thank you again to G=C3=B6ran for the report, without which this would no= t > have been impossible. Thanks for fixing this old bug, and congratulations! > @Stefan Kangas is there any record book for longest lived bugs, maybe > I can get a prize for this 13 years old bug, unless Richard has left > some bug form the 1970 or so version of Emacs :-P ? No one is keeping track really, but it's not too hard to dig out some information from git log (grep for "Bug#[0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]?[^0-9])". AFAICT, the current record holder is Mauro Aranda with his fix for Bug#2807 back in October (or possibly his fix for Bug#997). Our bug tracker only goes back to 2008 or so though, while some bugs have been around for 30 or 40 years without being recorded there. It's harder to search for those fixes in the git logs, though. 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My personal record is bug#24064: a 22-year old bug. Followed closely by bug#64253 (a 21-year old bug), bug#31829 (a 16-year old bug), and bug#56219 (a 15-year old bug). 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Thank you for the feedback and congratulations for your own records ! I forgot to mention this : to repair any existing spreadsheet made prior to= the bugfix, the procedure is as follows : * M-x ses-repair-cell-reference-all will fix all the reference lists in the i= n-memory data structures * C-c C-l will recompute the whole spreadsheet, which will cause the data are= a to be completely rewritten After these two commands, your spreadsheet is bug#5852-neat. V. ________________________________ De : Eli Zaretskii Envoy=E9 : vendredi 29 d=E9cembre 2023 15:19 =C0 : Stefan Kangas Cc : vincent.belaiche@gmail.com ; larsi@gnus.or= g ; goeran@uddeborg.se ; vincent.b.1@ho= tmail.fr ; 5852@debbugs.gnu.org <5852@debbugs.gnu.o= rg> Objet : Re: bug#5852: 23.1; Incorrect references in ses-mode > Cc: G=F6ran Uddeborg , > Vincent Bela=EFche , > 5852@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2023 04:36:03 -0800 > > Vincent Bela=EFche writes: > > > @Stefan Kangas is there any record book for longest lived bugs, maybe > > I can get a prize for this 13 years old bug, unless Richard has left > > some bug form the 1970 or so version of Emacs :-P ? > > No one is keeping track really, but it's not too hard to dig out some > information from git log (grep for "Bug#[0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]?[^0-9])". > > AFAICT, the current record holder is Mauro Aranda with his fix for > Bug#2807 back in October (or possibly his fix for Bug#997). My personal record is bug#24064: a 22-year old bug. Followed closely by bug#64253 (a 21-year old bug), bug#31829 (a 16-year old bug), and bug#56219 (a 15-year old bug). --_000_PAXP192MB1608900CB001D2338E2CCB17849DAPAXP192MB1608EURP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,

Thank you for the feedback and congratulations for your own records !

I forgot to mention this : to repair any existing spreadsheet made prior to= the bugfix, the procedure is as follows : 

  • M-x ses-repair-cell-reference-all will fix= all the reference lists in the in-memory data structures
  • C-c C-l will recompute the whole spreadshe= et, which will cause the data area to be completely rewritten

After these two commands, your spreadsheet is bug#5852-neat.

   V.
De : Eli Zaretskii <eliz= @gnu.org>
Envoy=E9 : vendredi 29 d=E9cembre 2023 15:19
=C0 : Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
Cc : vincent.belaiche@gmail.com <vincent.belaiche@gmail.com&= gt;; larsi@gnus.org <larsi@gnus.org>; goeran@uddeborg.se <goeran@u= ddeborg.se>; vincent.b.1@hotmail.fr <vincent.b.1@hotmail.fr>; 5852= @debbugs.gnu.org <5852@debbugs.gnu.org>
Objet : Re: bug#5852: 23.1; Incorrect references in ses-mode
 
> Cc: G=F6ran Uddeborg <goeran@uddeborg.se&g= t;,
>  Vincent Bela=EFche <vincent.b.1@hotmail.fr>,
>  5852@debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2023 04:36:03 -0800
>
> Vincent Bela=EFche <vincent.belaiche@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > @Stefan Kangas is there any record book for longest lived bugs, m= aybe
> > I can get a prize for this 13 years old bug, unless Richard has l= eft
> > some bug form the 1970 or so version of Emacs :-P ?
>
> No one is keeping track really, but it's not too hard to dig out some<= br> > information from git log (grep for "Bug#[0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]?[^0-= 9])".
>
> AFAICT, the current record holder is Mauro Aranda with his fix for
> Bug#2807 back in October (or possibly his fix for Bug#997).

My personal record is bug#24064: a 22-year old bug.  Followed closely<= br> by bug#64253 (a 21-year old bug), bug#31829 (a 16-year old bug), and
bug#56219 (a 15-year old bug).
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Now I'm looking forward to Emacs 30! 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