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[2003:6:33b0:7959:550f:4637:9594:d831]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o8-20020a50c908000000b004533fc582cbsm11750918edh.21.2022.10.12.13.22.26 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 12 Oct 2022 13:22:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: emacs 29.0.50 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I) From: Uwe Brauer References: <87h708opey.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <838rlkc0z7.fsf@gnu.org> X-Hashcash: 1:20:221012:oub@mat.ucm.es::IQzbCLriDQiA6yYs:0001M8Z X-Hashcash: 1:20:221012:58474@debbugs.gnu.org::VBnYqZphtIPRf+hH:00000000000000000000000000000000000000002i/C X-Hashcash: 1:20:221012:eliz@gnu.org::+aAi9BNelO2gcPit:000004+/E Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 22:22:21 +0200 Message-ID: <877d14yepu.fsf@mat.ucm.es> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=sha256; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>> "EZ" =3D=3D Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Uwe Brauer >> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 20:41:25 +0200 >>=20 >> I successfully compiled Emacs master >> 2953d89d74ebfe6a6bcbe0d25a60a845acad0e13. >>=20 >> However I when starting gnus I receive and error that I attach and that >> does not allow me to send a bug report from that Emacs master version >>=20 >> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable gnus-local-domain) >> (or gnus-local-domain (message-make-domain) (system-name) "") > Did you try looking up this variable in NEWS? Sigh, I did now,=20 ** Some functions and variables obsolete since Emacs 24 have been removed: But no hint how to somehow use it anyhow. My problem at the moment is that I have to stick to bbdb-2.35 which uses th= ese variables. I have written dozens of extensions that I cannot=20 easily port to bbdb-3.X since a lot of functions were either removed or ren= amed. Any idea how to find the necessary aliases? =20 =2D-=20 I strongly condemn Putin's war of aggression against the Ukraine. I support to deliver weapons to Ukraine's military.=20 I support the ban of Russia from SWIFT. 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Content preview: tags 58474 notabug close 58474 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 58474 notabug close 58474 quit From unknown Sat Aug 09 05:00:14 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#58474: 29.0.50; gnus does not startup in latest master: (void-variable gnus-local-domain) Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 05:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 58474 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Uwe Brauer Cc: 58474@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 58474-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B58474.166563845228686 (code B ref 58474); Thu, 13 Oct 2022 05:21:02 +0000 Received: (at 58474) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Oct 2022 05:20:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58947 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oiqeJ-0007Sc-KJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 01:20:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49004) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oiqeH-0007SL-8E for 58474@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 01:20:49 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59816) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oiqeB-0001be-PN; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 01:20:43 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=/fqvWfxntYMFk6S2yLfyhhRetiH0LD+ZLwarPLoQlC4=; b=NoaB5uuGLZiQ 1ibmO+5BqWyeaUqzP6wHzD30+eF1PXNJ2b/YGTgxCuBDiAgdw+1RkL76wcFPgavC5kop3rzxHHSeQ dJPikaxJdZiKBCV7IqxcVaXouTBizOAej95BDGf/A/Z0VmRW6fR85iJjUyI3/A/hWNBLgR6WORgpp GfFpU1cNAmfNQw0r3GtxkyVCKkO7egX4GEHU18J4mZeNyMDCGB/ljHhrrGFOzfancKUuRB1ce+kLJ 72TC1yY5vRQgP6P+9RkzUzFyNptvgvESpxExQBdd3vK+yRQhDLEVsJPtB5JgmG8/MMKkW0c/0G9fW yZ6abEsNZ22VQO3zA/nSIQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3263 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oiqe9-000506-W0; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 01:20:43 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 08:20:53 +0300 Message-Id: <837d14b8p6.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <877d14yepu.fsf@mat.ucm.es> (message from Uwe Brauer on Wed, 12 Oct 2022 22:22:21 +0200) References: <87h708opey.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <838rlkc0z7.fsf@gnu.org> <877d14yepu.fsf@mat.ucm.es> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Uwe Brauer > Cc: Uwe Brauer , 58474@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 22:22:21 +0200 > > > Did you try looking up this variable in NEWS? > > > Sigh, I did now, > ** Some functions and variables obsolete since Emacs 24 have been removed: > > But no hint how to somehow use it anyhow. Look at the code which caused the problem: > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable gnus-local-domain) > (or gnus-local-domain (message-make-domain) (system-name) "") ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ So if gnus-local-domain is nil, the code in bbdb already knows how to deal with that, it just needs the variable to exist. Now look at how this obsolete variable was defined in Emacs 28: (defcustom gnus-local-domain nil This is how you have been "using" this variable since Emacs 24: with a nil value. So just (defvar gnus-local-domain nil) somewhere in your init file should do. Better yet, modify bbdb to remove all the references to that variable. 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[2003:6:33b0:7959:550f:4637:9594:d831]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o11-20020a056402038b00b0045467008dd0sm12932410edv.35.2022.10.13.03.08.23 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 13 Oct 2022 03:08:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: emacs 29.0.50 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I) From: Uwe Brauer References: <87h708opey.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <838rlkc0z7.fsf@gnu.org> <877d14yepu.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <837d14b8p6.fsf@gnu.org> X-Hashcash: 1:20:221013:oub@mat.ucm.es::SZE4H0X/kXdZs599:0001I8I X-Hashcash: 1:20:221013:58474@debbugs.gnu.org::OYv4bULm5YVIZNqT:00000000000000000000000000000000000000004Qkc X-Hashcash: 1:20:221013:eliz@gnu.org::Ro9oPLz6tT0BsKzJ:00000QKJm Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 12:08:17 +0200 Message-ID: <87k054yr1q.fsf@mat.ucm.es> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=sha256; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>> "EZ" =3D=3D Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Uwe Brauer >> Cc: Uwe Brauer , 58474@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 22:22:21 +0200 >>=20 >> > Did you try looking up this variable in NEWS? >>=20 >>=20 >> Sigh, I did now,=20 >> ** Some functions and variables obsolete since Emacs 24 have been remove= d: >>=20 >> But no hint how to somehow use it anyhow. > Look at the code which caused the problem: >> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable gnus-local-domain) >> (or gnus-local-domain (message-make-domain) (system-name) "") > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > So if gnus-local-domain is nil, the code in bbdb already knows how to > deal with that, it just needs the variable to exist. > Now look at how this obsolete variable was defined in Emacs 28: > (defcustom gnus-local-domain nil > This is how you have been "using" this variable since Emacs 24: with a > nil value. So just > (defvar gnus-local-domain nil) > somewhere in your init file should do. Better yet, modify bbdb to > remove all the references to that variable. Thanks, may I propose, and I think I will propose it in devel later today: Why not have a file called=20 obsolete-var-funcs.el or backward-compatiblity-var-func.el That contains these old compatibility code? Such a file could be loaded by users who need this sort of compatibility? In my case such a file would look, for the moment (I have to run more tests) (define-obsolete-function-alias 'set-face-underline-p 'set-face-underline "24.3") (defcustom gnus-local-domain nil "Local domain name without a host name. The DOMAINNAME environment variable is used instead if it is defined. If the function `system-name' returns the full Internet name, there is no need to set this variable." :group 'gnus-message :type '(choice (const :tag "default" nil) string)) (make-obsolete-variable 'gnus-local-domain nil "24.1") =2D-=20 I strongly condemn Putin's war of aggression against the Ukraine. I support to deliver weapons to Ukraine's military.=20 I support the ban of Russia from SWIFT. 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