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[PATCH] Make `message-unique-id' less prone to collisions

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Message #49 received at 58472 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Matt Armstrong <matt <at> rfc20.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>, Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 58472 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#58472: [PATCH] Make `message-unique-id' less prone to
 collisions
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2022 08:19:57 -0700

Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu> writes:

> On 2022-10-12 19:46, Stefan Kangas wrote:
>
>> The main goal is to avoid collisions, but using the time also gives an
>> idea of when the message was sent, which is kind of nice.
>
> That info is in the Date: line, along with zillions of other Received: 
> lines. There should be no need to repeat it in the Message-ID line.
>
>> Time also
>> guarantees a somewhat unique value even if the user has happened to set
>> the random seed.
>
> If that's a concern, we should be using more-random data, e.g., with
>
>     (base64-encode-string
>      (secure-hash 'md5 'iv-auto 128 nil t))
>
> if we want 128 bits of randomness (this yields a string like 
> "B8a3usyu5QSE/rTLu0nIHg==").

Small suggestion: `base64-url-encode-string` avoids any trailing `===`
and uses slightly preferable non-alnum chars (I think).

But both can generate Message-Id with "command line switch" chars:
either ?- or ?/.  Since some tools expect users to work directly with
Message-ID at times (https://notmuchmail.org/) it might be nice to avoid
leading non-alnum chars, and possibly avoid '-' to avoid any confusion
with a UUID (in the sense of the schema defined by the RFC standard).

Maybe a base 62 encoder could be written just for this, as Emacs'
version of this doesn't need to be fast.  Can a string be turned into a
non-negative bignum integer in (simple) elisp?

-- 
matt (sent from an Emacs running the feature/noverlay branch)

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