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If file name was: my-file.ext.part Content analysis details: (1.6 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [209.51.188.17 listed in list.dnswl.org] 2.6 RCVD_IN_SBL RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus SBL [197.239.4.40 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] 0.2 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 1.1 DATE_IN_PAST_06_12 Date: is 6 to 12 hours before Received: date 0.9 SPF_FAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (fail) [SPF failed: Please see http://www.openspf.org/Why?s=mfrom;id=admin%40protected.rcdrun.com;ip=209.51.188.17;r=debbugs.gnu.org] -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager I have noticed that C-x C-q does not verify if file names changed. If file name was: my-file.ext.part once C-x C-q is invoked, it does not refresh buffer. In my opinion it shall refresh buffer or warn that file name does not exist any more, if it does not, so that editing of file names makes sense. In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo version 1.17.6, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2022-10-03 built on protected.rcdrun.com Repository revision: 81003b53f87597aba0320dd785227b219ae2ad1f Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101003 System Description: Parabola GNU/Linux-libre Configured using: 'configure --with-x-toolkit=lucid' Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS WEBP X11 XAW3D XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM LUCID ZLIB Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=exwm-xim locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t line-number-mode: t indent-tabs-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. 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Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 04 06:47:59 2022 Received: (at 58286) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Oct 2022 10:47:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52587 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1offSx-0001dy-Fb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2022 06:47:59 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:44378) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1offSv-0001dC-GT for 58286@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2022 06:47:57 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=wTuAzFJqDtoQU4yIWxuI2OzfGlMYKus58TBt6kI5Ows=; b=nNrP3rwd04dceZH8d99loObsHj D213TI0TCn9l8PVtIki+SHPAkucuXaaSvPEAvz8JLc1HkYrm1gmlOVKAEYXDbAdP6rLbwAEx6PPzC Qdo+c2cI6PgWpsfOahQkw6g3OZ42l6m+oKeYAHtPdyALSFqWDocclDcbq/yS/k0c82nU=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=downe) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1offSm-000318-M0; Tue, 04 Oct 2022 12:47:50 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Jean Louis Subject: Re: bug#58286: 29.0.50; (dired-toggle-read-only) should verify if file names changed In-Reply-To: <86czb85qzw.fsf@protected.rcdrun.com> (Jean Louis's message of "Tue, 04 Oct 2022 04:14:59 +0300") References: <86czb85qzw.fsf@protected.rcdrun.com> X-Now-Playing: Propaganda's _A Secret Wish_: "Sorry For Laughing" Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2022 12:47:48 +0200 Message-ID: <87zgeb3lwr.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Jean Louis writes: > I have noticed that C-x C-q does not verify if file names changed. > > If file name was: > > my-file.ext.part > > once C-x C-q is invoked, it does not refresh buffer. In my opinion it > shall refres [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58286 Cc: 58286@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Jean Louis writes: > I have noticed that C-x C-q does not verify if file names changed. > > If file name was: > > my-file.ext.part > > once C-x C-q is invoked, it does not refresh buffer. In my opinion it > shall refresh buffer or warn that file name does not exist any more, if > it does not, so that editing of file names makes sense. I don't understand what you mean here -- editing file names in wdired works fine for me. Do you have a step-by-step recipe, starting from "emacs -Q", that demonstrates the problem? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 04 06:48:04 2022 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Oct 2022 10:48:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52591 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1offT1-0001ep-PL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2022 06:48:04 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:44392) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1offSz-0001da-Q0 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2022 06:48:02 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=DOlCfHiMauVT8WA6wfHUYEqDpylfLq4TuTBFU+fa258=; b=vYiahCrNONjE6MnzgrMziDLOIl sf0EEy35twc5Civ3gG1buZaMpue90SmbbDhhyx+9byYXe58VjorFYOYgN95kc7z7iG5IJ/i1f65N0 msO5ln2la+qqlowyLge1xfSaDGbISoKhJtZBxVSJ0od2ImDsBGVKJD8m4NJM8x5kry60=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=downe) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1offSr-00031G-MS for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2022 12:47:55 +0200 Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2022 12:47:53 +0200 Message-Id: <87y1tv3lwm.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #58286 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: tags 58286 + moreinfo quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 58286 + moreinfo quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Oct 05 15:29:45 2022 Received: (at 58286) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Oct 2022 19:29:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58122 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ogA5R-0001Hh-2I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 15:29:45 -0400 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:35561) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ogA5P-0001HR-4o for 58286@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 15:29:43 -0400 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:154.227.156.251]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000BA40A.00000000633DDB20.00007BE2; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 12:29:36 -0700 Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 22:11:49 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#58286: 29.0.50; (dired-toggle-read-only) should verify if file names changed Message-ID: References: <86czb85qzw.fsf@protected.rcdrun.com> <87zgeb3lwr.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87zgeb3lwr.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.7+37 (a90f69b) (2022-09-02) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58286 Cc: 58286@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) * Lars Ingebrigtsen [2022-10-04 13:48]: > Jean Louis writes: > > > I have noticed that C-x C-q does not verify if file names changed. > > > > If file name was: > > > > my-file.ext.part > > > > once C-x C-q is invoked, it does not refresh buffer. In my opinion it > > shall refresh buffer or warn that file name does not exist any more, if > > it does not, so that editing of file names makes sense. > > I don't understand what you mean here -- editing file names in wdired > works fine for me. > > Do you have a step-by-step recipe, starting from "emacs -Q", that > demonstrates the problem? It is explained above. The file my-file.ext.part was edited, but then at some point the file named changed during editing, or file may be removed. After editing, the buffer was not refreshed. I could see new file name in the buffer while that file did not exist. With emacs -Q I see that it refreshes. I can't understand why and how, that is what happened. I do not change dired myself in anyway, even if not used with emacs -Q. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Jean Louis writes: >> Do you have a step-by-step recipe, starting from "emacs -Q", that >> demonstrates the problem? > > It is explained above. The file my-file.ext.part was edited, but then > at some point the file nam [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58286 Cc: 58286@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Jean Louis writes: >> Do you have a step-by-step recipe, starting from "emacs -Q", that >> demonstrates the problem? > > It is explained above. The file my-file.ext.part was edited, but then > at some point the file named changed during editing, or file may be > removed. After editing, the buffer was not refreshed. I could see new > file name in the buffer while that file did not exist. > > With emacs -Q I see that it refreshes. > > I can't understand why and how, that is what happened. I do not change > dired myself in anyway, even if not used with emacs -Q. That's still not a step-by-step recipe -- I don't understand what you say you've done, or what you're seeing. If the case is that you can't repeat the problem, but that it was something odd that happened once, but you don't know how or why, then I don't think we're going to get any further here. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 03 05:26:57 2023 Received: (at 58286-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Sep 2023 09:26:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39448 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qcjNg-00075I-Rw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2023 05:26:57 -0400 Received: from mail-lf1-x130.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::130]:58645) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qcjNf-000755-9O for 58286-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2023 05:26:56 -0400 Received: by mail-lf1-x130.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-4ff8cf11b90so818922e87.1 for <58286-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 03 Sep 2023 02:26:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1693733199; x=1694337999; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=uCKsqqJi0rxHOWkR8R6jFH5uMtEGNMNkxtMCoC29DOs=; b=TRNwjuIKwsY6g3nRt4QTFqWgLwK7a8fyoeT/+J6+xEXSCu3iKruhtfJogGy4gtzySm iOgsF1YSGzBqMYXobhSxwRd1EJLtRG+Yk7pXrdlI1Q8ilSH2YjJjgTIDZ5YxX/P+eiQt fBPJIKkq/apmnDM5Xik9/XL/r61T9JBP4HRJDG8ZkO36pmyaqbawidXsnyLgSXkwh4pd oMMoJYf1Ltxib28SyxbsAPnASMgeS5PgaK7tgCIZcPw3P6SZSuo4u07FruJK7dC90kw2 jpStvVAPbD6ZkYhorwDO56VQE1uYR0G+aRFXmO0eJgVlkaAcPV0K1hhWkss2C7873h/U mSpg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1693733199; x=1694337999; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=uCKsqqJi0rxHOWkR8R6jFH5uMtEGNMNkxtMCoC29DOs=; b=hVpML1lr0diaHVwEYM22/ZGBjWJTcD3slTvFb6BrbpmhrqfcU+bwOtJAdSBmxH8oXZ yGlcF87GDcPy4Sl7nmdGkiTeG+0NsUDfEl7nIsRHOjvIWp4/uTk1sqxMLizfMyG7P+EJ zL7vYGTEAJ8gsQY4mSNH9KZwlBcWF1tI+yTeO1k0xux8uLSRxmUbgAonsI+otLt3euEb ACGoB7wcvlg7A/vJU4HzbLAAroYkJNacilznwx5nvYT010xp5RntPFcB/1xhI1oeptLe oD8wBd1WtHNpYBrpXnQvYH2h3CURazrhqHNAl0n0nKrwsXVMxnuLhRVXjBzyGmtMwVo9 cGyw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzGVcQuLsfmO2CpUzvLXpZgjF0kJkciRpuvzBt95RcPtP9T9hIG fsNJSMVH6Wcn3ABINljIDZYe4KnH4gS7dCczja8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEz4v1TBEkSsposXqfbEly0XFvt+012OqGDFx/Nz1olviOXxl4/QIfmlcf8AQIvHTId44Ew3iUnpQvkKa1lJE4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:2302:b0:4f9:cd02:4aec with SMTP id o2-20020a056512230200b004f9cd024aecmr6156108lfu.29.1693733199087; Sun, 03 Sep 2023 02:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sun, 3 Sep 2023 02:26:38 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <87ilkx17t5.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 06 Oct 2022 13:59:50 +0200") References: <86czb85qzw.fsf@protected.rcdrun.com> <87zgeb3lwr.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilkx17t5.fsf@gnus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2023 02:26:38 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#58286: 29.0.50; (dired-toggle-read-only) should verify if file names changed To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58286-done Cc: 58286-done@debbugs.gnu.org, Jean Louis X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Jean Louis writes: > >>> Do you have a step-by-step recipe, starting from "emacs -Q", that >>> demonstrates the problem? >> >> It is explained above. The file my-file.ext.part was edited, but then >> at some point the file named changed during editing, or file may be >> removed. After editing, the buffer was not refreshed. I could see new >> file name in the buffer while that file did not exist. >> >> With emacs -Q I see that it refreshes. >> >> I can't understand why and how, that is what happened. I do not change >> dired myself in anyway, even if not used with emacs -Q. > > That's still not a step-by-step recipe -- I don't understand what you > say you've done, or what you're seeing. > > If the case is that you can't repeat the problem, but that it was > something odd that happened once, but you don't know how or why, then I > don't think we're going to get any further here. More information was requested, but none was given within 9 months, so I'm closing this bug. If this is still an issue, please reply to this email (use "Reply to all" in your email client) and we can reopen the bug report. 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