From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 03 20:12:14 2022 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Oct 2022 00:12:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51949 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ofVXh-0008JA-QF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 20:12:14 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:51800) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ofVXf-0008J2-Pm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 20:12:12 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39960) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ofVXf-0003MK-LG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 20:12:11 -0400 Received: from shell1.rawbw.com ([198.144.192.42]:42717) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ofVXd-00023Z-V8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 20:12:11 -0400 Received: from alto (135-180-174-133.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [135.180.174.133] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by shell1.rawbw.com (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id 2940C1uq037094 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2022 17:12:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mkupfer@alum.berkeley.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: shell1.rawbw.com: Host 135-180-174-133.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [135.180.174.133] (may be forged) claimed to be alto From: Mike Kupfer To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 29.0.50; image-dired and background processing X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7.1; Emacs 29.0.50 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <158018.1664842320.1@alto> Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2022 17:12:00 -0700 Message-ID: <158019.1664842320@alto> Received-SPF: none client-ip=198.144.192.42; envelope-from=mkupfer@alum.berkeley.edu; helo=shell1.rawbw.com X-Spam_score_int: -8 X-Spam_score: -0.9 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, MAY_BE_FORGED=1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) After updating to master 0df73dabc1, I noticed what looks like contradictory text in etc/NEWS. On the one hand, we have text saying that image-dired creates thumbnails in the background: -----8<-----8<----- *** 'image-dired-show-all-from-dir-max-files' has been increased to 500. This option controls asking for confirmation when starting Image-Dired in a directory with many files. However, Image-Dired creates thumbnails in the background these days, so this is not as important as it used to be, back when entering a large directory could lock up Emacs for tens of seconds. In addition, you can now customize this option to nil to disable this confirmation completely. ----->8----->8----- On the other hand, we have text that seems to say that background processing does not happen: -----8<-----8<----- *** Some commands and user options are now obsolete. Since Image-Dired no longer converts images in the background before displaying them, some commands and user options that are no longer needed are now obsolete: 'image-dired-cmd-create-temp-image-options', 'image-dired-cmd-create-temp-image-program', 'image-dired-display-current-image-full', 'image-dired-display-current-image-sized', 'image-dired-display-window-height-correction', 'image-dired-display-window-width-correction', 'image-dired-temp-image-file'. ----->8----->8----- Is this just a matter of confusing wording, or is one of these text excerpts flat-out wrong? (I did go to savannah just now to see if the latest etc/NEWS has different text, and it does, but the apparent conflict remains.) mike From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 04 01:43:42 2022 Received: (at 58279) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Oct 2022 05:43:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52138 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ofaiU-0008IA-DX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2022 01:43:42 -0400 Received: from mail-oi1-f177.google.com ([209.85.167.177]:33673) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ofaiS-0008Hn-2I for 58279@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2022 01:43:41 -0400 Received: by mail-oi1-f177.google.com with SMTP id t79so5284oie.0 for <58279@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 22:43:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from :from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=CcI7QZGslVkreCsoRBIOwkCrZvFQpcaZjgCROy5mQ1Y=; b=Q/JMIOTRtaj66hOwfhwE/zHwsYx8n+4SRi6VMtf4+Kq95j7c6gu73Z0l0SOtmoZELe thZD4eaxQVAuR8LbCFVQ6pEqxgtBnbBoaeaupck2+QIxMuPoHg/3x+ZPYnNck7fGKYXR elKgRZHwJTltt8btukN6jsGoemcRb9urs5Cf/FNYAD1UPnGuzO5ojOO64FPL1eDTsf0x ST6FxpsgiFjXD6Jji2MAWDcCRPhYKRZ0jZJquJfZLo+In/SSbwkUfxMot6GecZ91jGAN jo3/B2SYK60EKBTLj0s72mV0bmxMnKoQO5VQhiS0fZlXnycJgEuO6H4pygvtjvE6xrgS FWBA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=CcI7QZGslVkreCsoRBIOwkCrZvFQpcaZjgCROy5mQ1Y=; b=vA13iqDko61JD/kxyFzxcZHUp6e10HUPhBmJJlidtBjzEdB4wjj6VovgX9FXjaPua0 ufGnGxUG9ClM4CVomtWx/2DTxq/BwTXiKfKeWd42SjKjxGwCBDAB+5Yo9XR+GY/QJ5BE 5MUVeBCFIdkoJIFU3W2ego1lovKku35xo44psy5oDW6Q/0WoLNSDRzwq9j7XhDQWgCIV 5XDu9yEePwSUuVXpahUX4n1OY/BsRBci839+5D1FRo5NAUsUZzqAHsjy+GGBIiTL2cS3 plxC62/K7tZNmNxOZ+gEXLx1et7Y/ofiszr+Lh/mk/UUTEvUCqid3fP1AgX1bR0ifqrH ufeA== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf14YEZbE397JRESnfuUCIKnuEezjRQ9seYXSWaILkXFm0a5eSD1 gjztNkcqGDntgs+sG9XyGdvf15hCSzTTN8DHDVk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM7X5oSRYD0AT2RIidghMcu3vTKPC5AkH4ca7HC7P3HvSsJImPuRF+H4FTTX28opobivS9KrDqWmlf3x+oZkM30= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:1a09:b0:350:1e6a:e469 with SMTP id bk9-20020a0568081a0900b003501e6ae469mr5303180oib.92.1664862214364; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 22:43:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Tue, 4 Oct 2022 07:43:34 +0200 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <158019.1664842320@alto> References: <158019.1664842320@alto> X-Hashcash: 1:20:221004:mkupfer@alum.berkeley.edu::IQN9Bxhv3qRwE43r:8no4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 07:43:33 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#58279: 29.0.50; image-dired and background processing To: Mike Kupfer , 58279@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58279 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) close 58279 29.1 thanks Mike Kupfer writes: > After updating to master 0df73dabc1, I noticed what looks like > contradictory text in etc/NEWS. > > On the one hand, we have text saying that image-dired creates thumbnails > in the background: [...] > > On the other hand, we have text that seems to say that background > processing does not happen: > [...] > Is this just a matter of confusing wording, or is one of these text > excerpts flat-out wrong? Thanks for the bug report! That is confusing, indeed. The full story is that Image-Dired still generates thumbnails using an external program (the capability to generate them in the background was added in 2016), but no longer need to convert them to display the full size image (this is new in Emacs 29). I clarified the second NEWS item by installing the below change (commit 2d87750004). I'm therefore closing this bug report. diff --git a/etc/NEWS b/etc/NEWS index f21acaf207..8a27b91e30 100644 --- a/etc/NEWS +++ b/etc/NEWS @@ -2306,9 +2306,8 @@ the thumbnail file. +++ *** Some commands and user options are now obsolete. -Since Image-Dired no longer converts images in the background before -displaying them, some commands and user options that are no longer -needed are now obsolete: +Since 'image-dired-display-image-mode' is now based on 'image-mode', +some commands and user options are no longer needed and are now obsolete: 'image-dired-cmd-create-temp-image-options', 'image-dired-cmd-create-temp-image-program', 'image-dired-display-current-image-full', From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 04 10:35:48 2022 Received: (at 58279) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Oct 2022 14:35:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54909 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ofj1Q-0000H3-AA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2022 10:35:48 -0400 Received: from shell1.rawbw.com ([198.144.192.42]:10751 ident=root) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ofj1P-0000Gu-2c for 58279@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2022 10:35:47 -0400 Received: from alto (135-180-174-133.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [135.180.174.133] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by shell1.rawbw.com (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id 294EZdYH032378 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Oct 2022 07:35:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mkupfer@alum.berkeley.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: shell1.rawbw.com: Host 135-180-174-133.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [135.180.174.133] (may be forged) claimed to be alto From: Mike Kupfer To: Stefan Kangas Subject: Re: bug#58279: 29.0.50; image-dired and background processing In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 04 Oct 2022 07:43:33 +0200." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7.1; Emacs 29.0.50 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <5149.1664894139.1@alto> Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2022 07:35:39 -0700 Message-ID: <5150.1664894139@alto> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58279 Cc: 58279@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Stefan Kangas wrote: > The full story is that Image-Dired still > generates thumbnails using an external program (the capability to > generate them in the background was added in 2016), but no longer need > to convert them to display the full size image (this is new in Emacs 29). Ah, I see. > +Since 'image-dired-display-image-mode' is now based on 'image-mode', > +some commands and user options are no longer needed and are now obsolete: Yes, much better. Thanks! mike From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:49:32 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2022 11:24:10 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator