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29.0.50; message-box appearing in center of other X window

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 29.0.50; message-box appearing in center of other X window
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2022 09:24:38 +0300

I do not think that this is related to Window Manager, but it could
be. However, I do expect from Emacs to know which is the Emacs' X window
and to center the frame of `message-box' within the Emacs frame, and not
XTerm frame which did not even have mouse focus. 

Here is screen record:
https://gnu.support/files/tmp/2022-10-03/2022-10-03-09:18:37.ogv



In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo
 version 1.17.6, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2022-10-02 built on
 protected.rcdrun.com
Repository revision: d4f56e96665f1d2d98ce645d32d587013e8b8116
Repository branch: master
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101003
System Description: Parabola GNU/Linux-libre

Configured using:
 'configure --with-x-toolkit=lucid'

Configured features:
ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG
JSON LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY
PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS
WEBP X11 XAW3D XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM LUCID ZLIB

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: en_US.UTF-8
  value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=exwm-xim
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
  tooltip-mode: t
  global-eldoc-mode: t
  eldoc-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  indent-tabs-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t

Load-path shadows:
None found.

Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message mailcap yank-media puny dired
dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache epa derived epg rfc6068
epg-config gnus-util text-property-search time-date subr-x mm-decode
mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader
cl-loaddefs cl-lib sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util
mail-prsvr mail-utils rmc iso-transl tooltip eldoc paren electric
uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel
term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image
regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode
prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu
timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core
term/tty-colors frame minibuffer nadvice seq simple cl-generic
indonesian philippine cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese
tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek
romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese
composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop case-table epa-hook
jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure cl-preloaded button loaddefs
faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5
base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget keymap
hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify lcms2
dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo x-toolkit
xinput2 x multi-tty make-network-process emacs)

Memory information:
((conses 16 39191 5960)
 (symbols 48 5145 2)
 (strings 32 14282 1590)
 (string-bytes 1 403335)
 (vectors 16 10430)
 (vector-slots 8 159468 10560)
 (floats 8 40 15)
 (intervals 56 257 0)
 (buffers 1000 11))

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Jean

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Message #8 received at 58268 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
To: Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support>
Cc: 58268 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#58268: 29.0.50; message-box appearing in center of other X
 window
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2022 20:34:46 +0800

Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support> writes:

> I do not think that this is related to Window Manager, but it could
> be. However, I do expect from Emacs to know which is the Emacs' X window
> and to center the frame of `message-box' within the Emacs frame, and not
> XTerm frame which did not even have mouse focus. 
>
> Here is screen record:
> https://gnu.support/files/tmp/2022-10-03/2022-10-03-09:18:37.ogv

Have you tried building with some other toolkit, such as Motif?
Also, what window manager is that?

Message #11 received at 58268 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support>
To: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
Cc: 58268 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#58268: 29.0.50; message-box appearing in center of other X
 window
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 21:54:16 +0300

* Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com> [2022-10-03 15:35]:
> Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support> writes:
> 
> > I do not think that this is related to Window Manager, but it could
> > be. However, I do expect from Emacs to know which is the Emacs' X window
> > and to center the frame of `message-box' within the Emacs frame, and not
> > XTerm frame which did not even have mouse focus. 
> >
> > Here is screen record:
> > https://gnu.support/files/tmp/2022-10-03/2022-10-03-09:18:37.ogv
> 
> Have you tried building with some other toolkit, such as Motif?
> Also, what window manager is that?

I will not change to other toolkit.

I did try that, but I will not change to that toolkit because of
message-box appearing in other window.

This is IceWM.

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Message #14 received at 58268 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support>, Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
Cc: 58268 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#58268: 29.0.50;
 message-box appearing in center of other X window
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 15:35:56 -0700

Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support> writes:

> I will not change to other toolkit.
>
> I did try that, but I will not change to that toolkit because of
> message-box appearing in other window.

The request was not for you to change toolkit, but for you to *test*
with another toolkit, to see if the problem remains.

Would you be willing to carry out such a test and report back the
results (in particular, if the problem remains)?

Message #17 received at 58268 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>, 58268 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#58268: 29.0.50; message-box appearing in center of other X
 window
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 12:51:10 +0300

* Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> [2022-10-06 01:36]:
> Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support> writes:
> 
> > I will not change to other toolkit.
> >
> > I did try that, but I will not change to that toolkit because of
> > message-box appearing in other window.
> 
> The request was not for you to change toolkit, but for you to *test*
> with another toolkit, to see if the problem remains.
> 
> Would you be willing to carry out such a test and report back the
> results (in particular, if the problem remains)?

Here is the video with 2 toolkits:

https://gnu.support/images/tmp/2022-10-06/2022-10-06-10:54:20.ogv

It takes place when I press ALT-SHIFT-F2 to tile windows.

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Jean

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Message #20 received at 58268 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
To: Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support>
Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>, 58268 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#58268: 29.0.50; message-box appearing in center of other X
 window
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2022 18:39:57 +0800

Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support> writes:

> * Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> [2022-10-06 01:36]:
>> Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support> writes:
>> 
>> > I will not change to other toolkit.
>> >
>> > I did try that, but I will not change to that toolkit because of
>> > message-box appearing in other window.
>> 
>> The request was not for you to change toolkit, but for you to *test*
>> with another toolkit, to see if the problem remains.
>> 
>> Would you be willing to carry out such a test and report back the
>> results (in particular, if the problem remains)?
>
> Here is the video with 2 toolkits:
>
> https://gnu.support/images/tmp/2022-10-06/2022-10-06-10:54:20.ogv
>
> It takes place when I press ALT-SHIFT-F2 to tile windows.

Thanks.

In the case of GTK+, the toolkit itself sets the appropriate hints and
waits for the window manager to position the popup correctly.  There is
nothing we can do about that.

Athena widgets (all kinds) on the other hand fail to set any hints at
all.  I will look into this.

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