From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Oct 01 07:26:18 2022 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2022 11:26:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43805 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oeadN-0005nF-Pl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2022 07:26:18 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:43176) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oeaTX-0005XI-1k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2022 07:16:07 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37880) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oeaTW-00010f-Sy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2022 07:16:06 -0400 Received: from mail-ed1-x530.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::530]:40528) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oeaTU-0002ko-AI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2022 07:16:06 -0400 Received: by mail-ed1-x530.google.com with SMTP id 29so8962638edv.7 for ; Sat, 01 Oct 2022 04:16:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject :date; bh=1n2jlZGxpXudB4h1eN6GM4UZXEiGPtljNbLgsvlOwD4=; b=QMq+WulRhjB/K0x9Ie4i+GtBSvBiYsonhPpATzYj3XwSh++NtXBjHGc4YVMCvWY2D6 DAATPa/SrpmZ02AI6vaoHmOO/Lln0WuD10gqJ1vDfgJiWt5EfmWBSmt6nQsHQS6Ul13m jpbp/sPWqj5n3AAK2ttkJXgH+sCgsA3lhXYRvJ2+SeeKVJaFuTeY36fYm9s3uvaCmnPU ZgAP8/SGDtPCUDA3Qq3unBk9bPiYt2TaskGzFmCMSTgpJOJDOJbpmvSYigs2EH4pqsJ2 lzdSDNvrATONFulV10FhLG46Q5+8lC/pRw6oTINgERIjeZ1mzohCoVkDXWQlbdY/n/qh MqFA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=1n2jlZGxpXudB4h1eN6GM4UZXEiGPtljNbLgsvlOwD4=; b=r1d1xJPVtuI7iWYKcNqZLUKtkaFKmlJ50MT1H2MTIKB40mdZ+ov7tl/MmQ1LmPH0Xx oMmU92TA3Kp/G+Q2tckLXXMb2zW7D6P7BxWr9z0fsjaAM58UyunG08ZhayjIf0euI0Rm kA3+9x6yFH9Wx21pn1jtf80AtqvHR+EiDThydiGc0o7VA4w8a4GP7dVVYDgwAvayfHrH Oj8M3sJzG5M/TqLOsuDaT8Jr0EcWl8EsMMYNvLTdOZ44rDb43PtiD0gGL9rpKkBGWniD Jm9F84ZYim1dQVoSQwV1rP/fCaPCUkysjq9jPZCnilwro3fUgtyWsm74AqT9WfGwT3yG UzGQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf0f+eN61Yo4G9IdIKK/nG1guxiai56H1YuhwboAvDX1xyaBzC6n BFzx/SHXghS4RM32myOCkgvbUk9Ak60HjEbpAQhm2OAe X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM7swu4Vd0ii7ITvlpusa9IWcAPFgve3XJFsyqcKD0K5HRtSK5uDA5X2B46gPOm6pccpYQpSCiXCm2YhLaT5Ob4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:11cd:b0:452:199e:7cf6 with SMTP id j13-20020a05640211cd00b00452199e7cf6mr11401137edw.366.1664622962849; Sat, 01 Oct 2022 04:16:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Gwang-Jin Kim Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 13:15:51 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: global-linum-mode emacs29 To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000062bc3605e9f73ca4" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::530; envelope-from=gwang.jin.kim.phd@gmail.com; helo=mail-ed1-x530.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 01 Oct 2022 07:26:17 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) --00000000000062bc3605e9f73ca4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" deactivating or removing `global-linum-mode` is a stupid idea, in my view. One has to correct packages which are not workign any more emacs29. Please add global-linum-mode back into emacs29 - for backwards compatibility reasons. --00000000000062bc3605e9f73ca4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
deactivating or removing `global-linum-mode` is a stu= pid idea, in my view.
One has to correct packages which are not w= orkign any more emacs29.
Please add global-linum-mode back into e= macs29 - for backwards compatibility reasons.
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Content preview: Gwang-Jin Kim writes: > deactivating or removing `global-linum-mode` is a stupid idea, in my view. > One has to correct packages which are not workign any more emacs29. > Please add global-linum-mode back into emacs29 - fo [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58220 Cc: 58220@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Gwang-Jin Kim writes: > deactivating or removing `global-linum-mode` is a stupid idea, in my view. > One has to correct packages which are not workign any more emacs29. > Please add global-linum-mode back into emacs29 - for backwards compatibility > reasons. It's still in Emacs 29, and you can continue to use it as before. (But it will be removed at some point, since there are many newer solutions that work better.) Closing. 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One has to correct packages which are not workign any > more emacs29. Please add global-linum-mode back into emacs29 - > for backwards compatibility reasons. I've put a copy of linum.el in my own lisp directory (together with other soon-to-be or already-been obsoleted libraries). I then have that directory sourced early in the load-path. That way I'll not be affected when the axe finally falls. Best wishes, From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Oct 05 15:15:14 2022 Received: (at 58220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Oct 2022 19:15:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58098 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1og9rN-0000vP-RO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 15:15:14 -0400 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:50419) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1og9rM-0000uJ-G6 for 58220@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 15:15:12 -0400 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:154.227.156.251]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000BA494.00000000633DD7C0.00007A3B; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 12:15:12 -0700 Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 21:51:18 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#58220: global-linum-mode emacs29 Message-ID: References: <87tu4nhh5p.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87tu4nhh5p.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.7+37 (a90f69b) (2022-09-02) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58220 Cc: 58220@debbugs.gnu.org, Gwang-Jin Kim X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) * Lars Ingebrigtsen [2022-10-01 15:19]: > Gwang-Jin Kim writes: > > > deactivating or removing `global-linum-mode` is a stupid idea, in my view. > > One has to correct packages which are not workign any more emacs29. > > Please add global-linum-mode back into emacs29 - for backwards compatibility > > reasons. > > It's still in Emacs 29, and you can continue to use it as before. > > (But it will be removed at some point, since there are many newer > solutions that work better.) I do not have that in development version. Which other function should I use to get lines numbered? -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. 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These are your options, in order of preference: 1. (global-display-line-numbers-mode 1) 2. (progn (package-install 'nlinum) (global-nlinum-mode 1)) 3. (progn (require 'linum) (global-linum-mode 1)) Maybe we should add the above to NEWS? 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stefan Kangas writes: > 1. (global-display-line-numbers-mode 1) > 2. (progn (package-install 'nlinum) (global-nlinum-mode 1)) > 3. (progn (require 'linum) (global-linum-mode 1)) > > Maybe we should add the above to NEWS? 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(global-display-line-numbers-mode 1) >> 2. (progn (package-install 'nlinum) (global-nlinum-mode 1)) >> 3. (progn (require 'linum) (global-linum-mode 1)) >> >> Maybe we should add the above to NEWS? > > Makes sense to me. Now done (commit 9cb3813550). I didn't include instructions for how to use 'linum', as it's better to just use 'nlinum' in that case. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 06 02:04:08 2022 Received: (at 58220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Oct 2022 06:04:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58579 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ogJzM-0002rp-5U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 02:04:08 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43010) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ogJzJ-0002rH-GN for 58220@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 02:04:06 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45506) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ogJzD-0000gW-Bv; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 02:03:59 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=m1LEGK7OFoFlJbDPSjcQcSO+TmuLCwxYfKQHz1aTgXM=; b=PN+T4I6yKlfn jGGqHKF5Dwhrfm/vwziDT338WUHXNdYKJrZAg/NePqE6cd+kui9qLhfLGqOgZNhz2JAmBmM8fwfMU o9eXyNKwjaqOhvWft9DJRcU4iXSJoOpxJlqD6INcpqbWTVEao9jw4zAytu2QJC4Ff26UKCOhHh3AC 3HLwneDTOKp9mMM8aQlFMFM+ppMWCpQh+cwEdB5FfTHTqiQ3r/RUhj9ByCpG3w6X/VtSPyPQ07HhP WiVnAoxImQJgt8fUHy/B4eHCTeE/9cuusl/HnMtpmUTPqZTdddIFXHZ0CTpTuvnJCD+d0qem6Rpvs p2vgE8fRRZTk8WgOcfTYPg==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4682 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ogJz6-0001F1-N7; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 02:03:54 -0400 Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2022 09:03:53 +0300 Message-Id: <83zge9qyie.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Wed, 5 Oct 2022 15:51:44 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#58220: global-linum-mode emacs29 References: <87tu4nhh5p.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58220 Cc: gwang.jin.kim.phd@gmail.com, larsi@gnus.org, 58220@debbugs.gnu.org, bugs@gnu.support X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 58220@debbugs.gnu.org, Gwang-Jin Kim > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 15:51:44 -0700 > > Jean Louis writes: > > > Which other function should I use to get lines numbered? > > These are your options, in order of preference: > > 1. (global-display-line-numbers-mode 1) > 2. (progn (package-install 'nlinum) (global-nlinum-mode 1)) > 3. (progn (require 'linum) (global-linum-mode 1)) > > Maybe we should add the above to NEWS? It's a good idea, IMO. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 06 02:08:44 2022 Received: (at 58220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Oct 2022 06:08:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58588 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ogK3n-0002y8-Th for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 02:08:44 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59244) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ogK3l-0002xv-3z for 58220@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 02:08:42 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36708) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ogK3e-0001Ju-Kl; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 02:08:35 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=RdqtCCh1b+65+lpgBjeHMzVjX/l7enE71J/93l/YMU4=; b=kNtqBsx8gdbV dfbZtRq/BglNryEsuzzlwa8iDBNkiOac6wsSC9NigCKIjvcHHgMQNAqcOeGhnLC935xBvsq2U92xf UrNKNAxFkhs8hUYA+vYH3qbII804mYonzxWeoAXmMsGjeu120H7vXDsRzuCagmwWBvNTfJXMH7mec 8klw8gTEdGOb2f6YFQaUjmepZ84f9zkKbinL2V3pCHIb9z8BG97F/Dtbb8Jav++EHNMSwyGcKpw77 bW9lHW3nRHOJcw9FEW3oiaFPtic+jaulQ5ec6D0+qDBKIvVN63tW9Ls3JIbotuYiGGK6kNQvcMDOr yvjmgQ44Lzgxu7xVlBai/Q==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4965 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ogK3b-0000ja-56; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 02:08:33 -0400 Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2022 09:08:32 +0300 Message-Id: <83wn9dqyan.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Thu, 6 Oct 2022 01:38:16 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#58220: global-linum-mode emacs29 References: <87tu4nhh5p.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfk127cj.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58220 Cc: larsi@gnus.org, bugs@gnu.support, 58220@debbugs.gnu.org, gwang.jin.kim.phd@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 58220@debbugs.gnu.org, Gwang-Jin Kim , > Jean Louis > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 01:38:16 +0200 > > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > > > Stefan Kangas writes: > > > >> 1. (global-display-line-numbers-mode 1) > >> 2. (progn (package-install 'nlinum) (global-nlinum-mode 1)) > >> 3. (progn (require 'linum) (global-linum-mode 1)) > >> > >> Maybe we should add the above to NEWS? > > > > Makes sense to me. > > Now done (commit 9cb3813550). I didn't include instructions for how to > use 'linum', as it's better to just use 'nlinum' in that case. I'd suggest to include linum as well. We don't know the users' preferences, and shouldn't second-guess them in this case. The notes about backward compatibilities in NEWS are supposed to help users who want their old ways no matter what. These notes do not provide our preferences and recommendations, because those are apparent from the defaults. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 06 03:11:59 2022 Received: (at 58220-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Oct 2022 07:11:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58708 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ogL31-0004aL-0F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 03:11:59 -0400 Received: from mail-oi1-f171.google.com ([209.85.167.171]:35624) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ogL2x-0004Zv-Ox for 58220-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 03:11:57 -0400 Received: by mail-oi1-f171.google.com with SMTP id w70so1111751oie.2 for <58220-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 00:11:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=3YLNEExlVvuouGqds/UbO9lthKTSD/q/pusZgunBoI8=; b=n30fKFzzTu+QXlTbE4zrHW6BZoqiwXojoGnrA3lMBZMV8jREMSk4o3lmROVZTDcr+Q UeK1MQkjLCf3RUpHzXuGAWCmn1mzI1QIWeBvrLuGpT81F0vBrP1klp5rwsZ7hRVPSF17 hs5bEfNYx4zbF2D7futMnQgn9uxhulEMHWQn3+PoYjtT9+2SLOVEZhDemrU+L5XiXA1k 8OzLux0D9yRBCejtznAk3tYAI241VrWSh7LGCTsydf2/NB6Oxs9trm/S9QuH/EqgWRC1 Zi4FTccSv6hj8wtfsQapzx4Ds2m1tthh4qZ3Jpe77ZXD2HykmU2ACLMl98IXjxO+psDD It8w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=3YLNEExlVvuouGqds/UbO9lthKTSD/q/pusZgunBoI8=; b=QTM6haSEgPyYxggneVp8tjL5HwCff98PPJexN9Yx48E5lBeOLqqjwcHm0OGxXuhb6h 3sZpTMbEob7duQMIWMC6NdKR0yvF7SmRH5ycBbwRIEmVJLdDwQQT601BEBCjsYocWkvY YVyhCz1BRBbmwpRlB4+ozjVjvCLco+o2N7kR4OP4+v9be5ZEaYD/2AvcFXSLbVYZRz8S SpIB/tLlP8hjuyMh7gWTEyCw2Z1qrCKBVdl5gPWKP5Lh7s1s9qB+GT+L9uCU/HeLOqJ2 qOByk1OYblPJaplAWAVWhtIJBxYowLETJw7YmwPYrKrPhFzzyaE3i53/i2ZuuqXIQP9z uv9A== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf3dg7usL4vRX8mj+KJmSMw48O+6BQDX4d+/tu0rQ3nkDeqIUgTP A7GNq2MtoytdzdQVWz7V2+EAivyU4NydAIbTwMA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM5FYTqvWgIMwm5o3BXKK8AVrpOJvakp3zkLYefHtrpzaYg9FWUWsEO+vQEGEtAt74SNsX8DsazVlxWIMHi/+gI= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:1a09:b0:350:1e6a:e469 with SMTP id bk9-20020a0568081a0900b003501e6ae469mr4011601oib.92.1665040310158; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 00:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Thu, 6 Oct 2022 03:11:49 -0400 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <83wn9dqyan.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87tu4nhh5p.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfk127cj.fsf@gnus.org> <83wn9dqyan.fsf@gnu.org> X-Hashcash: 1:20:221006:58220-done@debbugs.gnu.org::c64J9kP9MlhduPb3:5ZzL MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 03:11:49 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#58220: global-linum-mode emacs29 To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58220-done Cc: larsi@gnus.org, bugs@gnu.support, 58220-done@debbugs.gnu.org, gwang.jin.kim.phd@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > I'd suggest to include linum as well. We don't know the users' > preferences, and shouldn't second-guess them in this case. The notes > about backward compatibilities in NEWS are supposed to help users who > want their old ways no matter what. These notes do not provide our > preferences and recommendations, because those are apparent from the > defaults. OK, that makes sense. So I've added it (commit 039ada6d03). If anyone wants to make any further adjustments or tweaks, please go ahead. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 06 03:48:59 2022 Received: (at 58220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Oct 2022 07:48:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58765 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ogLcp-0007lt-9b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 03:48:59 -0400 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:37149) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ogLcl-0007lc-Lv for 58220@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 03:48:58 -0400 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.4.113]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000BA40E.00000000633E8861.00003DDF; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 00:48:49 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 10:48:24 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Stefan Kangas Subject: Re: bug#58220: global-linum-mode emacs29 Message-ID: References: <87tu4nhh5p.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.7+37 (a90f69b) (2022-09-02) X-Spam-Score: 2.6 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: * Stefan Kangas [2022-10-06 01:52]: > Jean Louis writes: > > > Which other function should I use to get lines numbered? > > These are your options, in order [...] Content analysis details: (1.6 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.6 RCVD_IN_SBL RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus SBL [197.239.4.113 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager * Stefan Kangas [2022-10-06 01:52]: > Jean Louis writes: > > > Which other function should I use to get lines numbered? > > These are your options, in order of preference: > > 1. (global-display-line-numbers-mode 1) Thank you. It means M-x display-line-numbers-mode -- so it is just matter of a habit, I was used to linum-mode as why would I use it globally? Makes no sense to me. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 06 03:50:41 2022 Received: (at 58220-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Oct 2022 07:50:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58777 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ogLeS-0007pj-UJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 03:50:41 -0400 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:41465) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ogLeP-0007pT-TD for 58220-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 03:50:40 -0400 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.4.113]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000BA40E.00000000633E88C8.00003E04; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 00:50:32 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 10:50:18 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Stefan Kangas Subject: Re: bug#58220: global-linum-mode emacs29 Message-ID: References: <87tu4nhh5p.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfk127cj.fsf@gnus.org> <83wn9dqyan.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.7+37 (a90f69b) (2022-09-02) X-Spam-Score: 2.6 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: * Stefan Kangas [2022-10-06 10:12]: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I'd suggest to include linum as well. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: * Stefan Kangas [2022-10-06 10:12]: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I'd suggest to include linum as well. We don't know the users' > > preferences, and shouldn't [...] Content analysis details: (1.6 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.6 RCVD_IN_SBL RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus SBL [197.239.4.113 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager * Stefan Kangas [2022-10-06 10:12]: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I'd suggest to include linum as well. We don't know the users' > > preferences, and shouldn't second-guess them in this case. The notes > > about backward compatibilities in NEWS are supposed to help users who > > want their old ways no matter what. These notes do not provide our > > preferences and recommendations, because those are apparent from the > > defaults. > > OK, that makes sense. So I've added it (commit 039ada6d03). > > If anyone wants to make any further adjustments or tweaks, please go > ahead. In (info "(emacs) Acknowledgments") there is reference to: • Markus Triska wrote ‘linum.el’, a minor mode that displays line numbers in the left margin. So if you are taking package out, consider that such reference may confuse new users. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 06 04:14:48 2022 Received: (at 58220-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Oct 2022 08:14:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58830 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ogM1n-0008RS-Mx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 04:14:48 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55270) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ogM1m-0008RG-9H for 58220-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 04:14:46 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:52692) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ogM1f-0002zQ-DS; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 04:14:39 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=OluT1KaOAwJGXVGM87pCUOEk1EXDtSQUNqEga/KiXGQ=; b=qu8ELCC53gCNgsL2H25i XYprDwToKHXx9P+Lu1AwN10dW9b69SIfkM8uoTe7vactWRNSEE8RXl5ESBJ1jz0S9GSHpKDTyvAaF a+yYlxm7+i5FfL3mw/aqJO5kSvJ72tZB5d2awc/xEhp+ilNLwFAPqaGGvMw1YTD9xa2fbutTvTYLZ V08AKRAXB9cZtSUE02zYnpZmA5hnRoHOHuPQt94qS4IG4FubdULFfqIdQSMKh0TMJCyPZYCqfkxce +XZtVR+UBVhUmYYl3pkaHjmJVPh4kTUdwRQvleyZ2WyzgF+XluHa6Hq89txx8WVLI5E0w6R9iYUSq 1S9uKmcbcVUTnQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4745 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ogM1d-0001KT-AT; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 04:14:39 -0400 Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2022 11:14:38 +0300 Message-Id: <838rltqsgh.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Jean Louis In-Reply-To: (message from Jean Louis on Thu, 6 Oct 2022 10:50:18 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#58220: global-linum-mode emacs29 References: <87tu4nhh5p.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfk127cj.fsf@gnus.org> <83wn9dqyan.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58220-done Cc: gwang.jin.kim.phd@gmail.com, larsi@gnus.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, 58220-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 10:50:18 +0300 > From: Jean Louis > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , larsi@gnus.org, > 58220-done@debbugs.gnu.org, gwang.jin.kim.phd@gmail.com > > In (info "(emacs) Acknowledgments") there is reference to: > > • Markus Triska wrote ‘linum.el’, a minor mode that displays line > numbers in the left margin. > > So if you are taking package out, consider that such reference may > confuse new users. Sorry, no. We won't rewrite the history. (And I don't think new users will hurry up to read that section anyway.) From unknown Fri Jul 18 12:04:11 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2022 11:24:06 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator