From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:14:02 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#58049 <58049@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#58049 <58049@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 29.0.50; Obsolete url schemes "info" and "man" Reply-To: bug#58049 <58049@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 06:14:02 +0000 retitle 58049 29.0.50; Obsolete url schemes "info" and "man" reassign 58049 emacs submitter 58049 Stefan Kangas severity 58049 wishlist thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 24 19:05:21 2022 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Sep 2022 23:05:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45430 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ocED2-0003P0-V0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2022 19:05:21 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:59492) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ocED0-0003Or-7u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2022 19:05:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47876) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ocED0-0001KW-09 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2022 19:05:18 -0400 Received: from mail-oi1-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::22d]:46647) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ocECy-00071U-3V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2022 19:05:17 -0400 Received: by mail-oi1-x22d.google.com with SMTP id g130so4105249oia.13 for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2022 16:05:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:from:from:to:cc:subject :date; bh=h4NG0cpqlkqyDpo0kaN5CU2D8oOwi2ZAy+OnO2dEBGc=; b=MpI+X2OD0dGDH9ewzdUjWCRLg3J6c9k37UhV8hbji+ZPY+G1bR4NPeMogkCnNEE+Oe 0fCwt44JtQ/jjy8CFzbth8Tplxq+8K0ujJG8qG2i0683TsWjtfGL1lLcTJKz1kZGRdLK bsal6yBJ+AX76UcX8KyhTq/tEkn8X77gZCDVftI7k4KZdMg7Cf7Wgi+a2m/f4E0SjY38 eCZnrQbREdvleD9h/H3G2V2RjSWHOpf99r5FjHTWVAszTPdDBTL0tqnebbSvykeVkz4e rbuBA697zQnmL/hTxj9StycLyoIN48VsqkxrDY8yCzVgONAgkCmZCwomJxQ4YubiHhTa RJ5w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:from:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=h4NG0cpqlkqyDpo0kaN5CU2D8oOwi2ZAy+OnO2dEBGc=; b=ETrMF9eKJGdwlSsno0zSbKGjH2eWEBAX6kGNeQ1y0qmzD/9vDoK02j2FvrMRwJdo5P cYXtVnb6pSTWMve8SEt57H8JkWyWZbRvWsf39gD+XlC4oJT7IX4mC/P7kXGoXrqH1W6J 1nyK5gbKNSOWbLW1yZEBnMFWU9y3Rn9ATUtygwn4S3R2IjFG3XQ3zZuCSLFJZuFhvB8d dq3Hr+diX31XrNCclRWrZlpY47BeoXYLCfhw0i+9aG+O8EdtUBCI3mVpCvWw4VbIJI9Y 1f5GjPzRWOEhdQgh2KLOL7F2ASG9InMwlhj2EoejpP7Ix4gKfndGxcK5fKDJrihb1+BN webg== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf2pY9LhcSyRvy5LMcQuaZeT2ROaTRyVpy372/+ISfQB6HOzPYdQ xaoLXJzwv1iBcRzLTIuPS6Cgfc/PNyNmSKosR9TqOvPM X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM4aMAhOtFvnILqqDlXKd2JO4z1HQtu7tVf7ZfxK9oIycRYnlyGCqDmnuKiHZjKPMvsTRVm+FUeWyuk+0RJh+z4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:1a09:b0:350:1e6a:e469 with SMTP id bk9-20020a0568081a0900b003501e6ae469mr11584117oib.92.1664060714638; Sat, 24 Sep 2022 16:05:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sat, 24 Sep 2022 19:05:13 -0400 From: Stefan Kangas X-Hashcash: 1:20:220924:bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org::w/+GQIBHA8xfS/nC:00bx MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2022 19:05:13 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: 29.0.50; Obsolete url schemes "info" and "man" To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::22d; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-oi1-x22d.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Severity: wishlist I don't think non-standard URLs like these are used much, and they're probably not very useful. They're more likely to cause confusion. (url-retrieve-synchronously "info:url#Retrieving URLs") (url-retrieve-synchronously "man:cat") I suggest support for such URLs is obsoleted, and that they are removed from (info "(url) Supported URL Types"). In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 3, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.24, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2022-09-24 built on joffe Repository revision: 351d4dce21eaad30bb8b8a7d6a64463164f3e0bc Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12011000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) Configured using: 'configure --with-native-compilation' Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS WEBP X11 XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LC_COLLATE: C value of $LC_CTYPE: sv_SE.UTF-8 value of $LC_TIME: C value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t line-number-mode: t indent-tabs-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. 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They're more likely to cause confusion. How do you know all these things? Do you have any data to support those opinions? > (url-retrieve-synchronously "info:url#Retrieving URLs") > (url-retrieve-synchronously "man:cat") > > I suggest support for such URLs is obsoleted, and that they are removed > from (info "(url) Supported URL Types"). I don't see why we should. Do they require any significant maintenance effort to keep them? Let's not obsolete/remove features just because we don't know who'd need them. Support for many features, some of them perhaps obscure to many, is one of important traits of Emacs, so let's try keeping that where it costs us little to do so. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 25 10:01:31 2022 Received: (at 58049) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Sep 2022 14:01:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48274 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ocSCJ-0000FI-D7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 10:01:31 -0400 Received: from mail-ed1-f41.google.com ([209.85.208.41]:45778) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ocSCH-0000F3-Ps for 58049@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 10:01:30 -0400 Received: by mail-ed1-f41.google.com with SMTP id m3so5813771eda.12 for <58049@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 07:01:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date :references:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=cRhKAtiCOwVp8cquv8jlDMSF564l4zeHI8pbnp162WU=; b=hYGhPjV3Vvfp7772vCVCEHZWblXy6Dl4uupm/w9jVFHy93l1XmbLy8v6XlaG7xi6r4 ZTyhjqOzORNlsstwY/tJ0dkebSNjnQV1ORXn6dZ75f6JIevxzEjSCFRQPFdQUXYl6TOP nz1/g1OrRB2wV4RtMCSYmyEkxUJLcFo/2NGVQ+st967b0MVBw4Rms5ChQPSx549KxSi3 npV0yXgfzIE6iJupeoZZ/2BZMvN3DahF+bLBfXTAfSqhgf0n0/jIfjMj0Pz4fZq1e7Iz p6I82/6jJX7YOBN59UJFgtifYBXF1xc2sZ5DpkTdWusv7SGBh1FFM7FPDfbyWLRwXI1g DSWw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date :references:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from :to:cc:subject:date; bh=cRhKAtiCOwVp8cquv8jlDMSF564l4zeHI8pbnp162WU=; b=nWWliI1lJRa3JkEeG7UKJSch6IJ1RO0yzoJiH9SRllyTM5nP4J6LlqXdxb83kCQ//V ezwTalYcZlHk6cEQVnYgQqtaIqDc9m/RARtrzRHSwI0ZUp2IdSi+ZIlRqfDnb3pddR/g eLX7l1NTsxle0hFPe1HPJ2A4lBvDr8xUZJjERp63dBwdtR1zCPWpvF8SxGBTZoXcEaVe cY/DS/h1JDpkP0kV5DXvBMjlrwndES82dhmhtmzm/FBSRnJ0CxPLB1pfFNwndq2IOUA8 C9bdoNF97F6oLGsmXIariB/7pISqFnziUJs51SrbTC2t5BTDbP+Z84E9iKdZdFNIL5Tl nErA== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf0msNc/7OZy10VIAwvsEYs85WeauvT34cVHinx2Tw8H0GTRwJAx dPUR9KfNjkPQ4af5dW2zH+/D5Z6YVLI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM7shE9JWiLL49EePlt3oHvSa43kuzKnLpJp/Ue71ABA7TJ3R03PHo37C+PIFiZOT+O75OS8jw== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:3549:b0:454:414e:a7fd with SMTP id f9-20020a056402354900b00454414ea7fdmr18576147edd.69.1664114483508; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 07:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ars3 ([2a02:8109:8ac0:56d0::8510]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m2-20020a170906234200b0073d753759fasm6879280eja.172.2022.09.25.07.01.21 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 25 Sep 2022 07:01:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Augusto Stoffel To: Stefan Kangas Subject: Re: bug#58049: 29.0.50; Obsolete url schemes "info" and "man" In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Sat, 24 Sep 2022 19:05:13 -0400") References: Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2022 16:01:20 +0200 Message-ID: <87edvz1rkf.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58049 Cc: 58049@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 at 19:05, Stefan Kangas wrote: > Severity: wishlist > > I don't think non-standard URLs like these are used much, and they're > probably not very useful. They're more likely to cause confusion. > > (url-retrieve-synchronously "info:url#Retrieving URLs") > (url-retrieve-synchronously "man:cat") I can imagine many uses for this. For instance, a completion table could provide some kind of "further info" property so you can preview the documentation of an item mid-completion. Also, and eldoc source could provide a "further info" hyperlink pointing to the info or man page. (This is mostly speculation, of course.) If I were to retire something, it would be the (file)node syntax for info pages. (My digestif TeX language server provides links to the documentation of various packages, typically PDF files. It checks if the PDF exists locally and gives a file:// link, otherwise a https:// link to CTAN. But it would be much better to just provide a =E2=80=9Ctexinfo:=E2=80=9D li= nk and let the editor decide how to display that. Of course I don't do this because no editor would support it OOTB, but I think the concept makes sense.) 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From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 25 10:30:34 2022 Received: (at 58049) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Sep 2022 14:30:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48320 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ocSeQ-0000xv-B2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 10:30:34 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:59356) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ocSeN-0000xX-CT for 58049@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 10:30:32 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=fEQNB9ci5JMHO/6LTJTaF3s9Paexrjbn5HasfkA9TGg=; b=O6OqvRi/WGSpkbAsLTXIbVyOzf ox+ChBAQlpC0E30fDSPOct8VgOwG7OicDVqpIIyiSsFokYjIHKGgEPylj8fb2NVtNkxWjJ8KZy9pq t6DgP+dcBwtSt5WcSGNGCFv9hqnVOCuaXoLt0Oq1Kc34xp5fRmkFcA31+Ha0GRPYgFeg=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=joga) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ocSeE-0006hZ-Ie; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 16:30:24 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Augusto Stoffel Subject: Re: bug#58049: 29.0.50; Obsolete url schemes "info" and "man" In-Reply-To: <87edvz1rkf.fsf@gmail.com> (Augusto Stoffel's message of "Sun, 25 Sep 2022 16:01:20 +0200") References: <87edvz1rkf.fsf@gmail.com> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAgMAAAAqbBEUAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAADFBMVEXjza7QuqCogWD/ //+BhT4TAAAAAWJLR0QDEQxM8gAAAAd0SU1FB+YJGQ4bJcRkGowAAAGoSURBVCjPLVFNi9swEB0t 9kJvCcSB7LmU9l/IsAm0Jwn0RO1bIQm1f8eS8zZUhua0Kbax5ld2pO2A7XnWvA9JRHuqCkWPRhlH eKZV8aGiKpiCXFXWzkDVAZqg96pU2ihQRQ2l0vKoE61Tr/LLkk1/qwy8KJMI5NmGQELPvRKfQj4Z iV5TpOaBmeuJhrXOIJ5rR77OMxVtZCyUrwkUmfMH4b3PAnCkTHYFbesfh1dTSrwHAXBl78qkGCg8 fa/6YJE5QFf2k0HqyOJs+2iM2EhQzOi5hlYyajyHnltgb2Tj236SlEBdg1rfJjC4lbpT5zkVIqnu HbR8WJKPH2bmR74ctfpJCFMCg8SNku2t50u8CifQo1jy3/EaNQWqTi334/gpajURTrj55bhd0tiu w22Inw+LE+kvDQaOnVqMrDSo2lv8qkYjHGtw4/mbnbTcAoxreb4YAWmzo+fh+vKWQRMVhunlrtVA eOLS+tF5XQfCmW98Xo61Vr9oB56DX/7fHOQwpJ5XctYB0dtm4HbuQEXl7R2DP7W/11QCuwiPI/SG XDAfsXNkrd78A4oupznw7ZKaAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIyLTA5LTI1VDE0OjI3OjM2 KzAwOjAwWLNk/wAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMi0wOS0yNVQxNDoyNzozNiswMDowMCnu 3EMAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Yukihiro Takahashi's _Neuromantic_: "Extra-Ordinary" Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2022 16:30:19 +0200 Message-ID: <878rm7bk78.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Augusto Stoffel writes: > I can imagine many uses for this. For instance, a completion table > could provide some kind of "further info" property so you can preview > the documentation of an item mid-completion. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58049 Cc: Stefan Kangas , 58049@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Augusto Stoffel writes: > I can imagine many uses for this. For instance, a completion table > could provide some kind of "further info" property so you can preview > the documentation of an item mid-completion. Why on Earth would you use URL syntax for something like that? Just add the "further info" property and link that up with a closure from a text property or whatever I'm all for retiring the info: and man: schemes (since they are 100% useless), but don't really see the need to do so piecemeal -- when Emacs grows a new URL library that functions better than the current one, it'll only support http(s) and file, so all this junk will disappear in one fell swoop. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 25 10:42:18 2022 Received: (at 58049) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Sep 2022 14:42:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48333 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ocSpm-0001F9-G2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 10:42:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44686) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ocSpi-0001Et-2S for 58049@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 10:42:16 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:57556) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ocSpc-0000iV-M6; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 10:42:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=j13BIKE91EOYN47oH8yL64jWMYMuQeAq96En0SowCCE=; b=DzEZOubZU6Hm owWXMQuNnx/WsyB/nD8uVx3yA4LFoTpOS8S/6EVIsN07AA2XFi823gnTMh//tr1IKDhJTBQRdntH6 C8EloyI9Oj/J2BsepB5x8idLepiXj86/4gebtRhVMsCtpD3UFlPXUma0dnBolUhYQbk7G3YrGNrQH pGuhwikAPjUpSKhkukbkM8xkBuuDrdhAigiA7y54jKfSFf0a18qliRaZ9QIrK+OZgf380YeFbCm1J 87btabyrAoH/8Ntc7ZHy/G2pXGFqc2vz7DiFL7hIdlDVtGnSW3DUX4ghv9HW/1x3hQvkwGLFrEA9w 2o3QnZCBc6Qd9dcYk684Dg==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3225 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ocSpc-0008O8-26; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 10:42:08 -0400 Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2022 17:41:55 +0300 Message-Id: <83wn9rldn0.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <878rm7bk78.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sun, 25 Sep 2022 16:30:19 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#58049: 29.0.50; Obsolete url schemes "info" and "man" References: <87edvz1rkf.fsf@gmail.com> <878rm7bk78.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58049 Cc: arstoffel@gmail.com, stefankangas@gmail.com, 58049@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: Stefan Kangas , 58049@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2022 16:30:19 +0200 > > when Emacs grows a new URL library that functions better than the > current one, it'll only support http(s) and file You mean, no mailto:, no imap:, no irc:, no news:, no pop:, no rsync:, etc.? Do we really want to drop support for all those schemes? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 25 10:46:13 2022 Received: (at 58049) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Sep 2022 14:46:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48337 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ocStZ-0001LY-2J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 10:46:13 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:59642) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ocStX-0001LJ-4U for 58049@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 10:46:12 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=VF1J9kjpUABo1ZXq+BpsollFA0N8ik+EZShECIaR7HI=; b=Us1+j1fBuOllSE4ldKZbIZr8Bm Jnb4OFWNyNzIm4sGnl5Mxdz5aWDRROxhb1tHVcGO7FDwlgJ6Cn/iJJyeOnAEebEsjzexGUael7cr/ Fko2ThAZ9GebHzJ+7VKYQWuFb+XH3DMFISBQAJEi4X3uPIPmX9Zr2UkzfUGVRqL9iC8M=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=joga) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ocStO-0006sT-7M; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 16:46:04 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#58049: 29.0.50; Obsolete url schemes "info" and "man" In-Reply-To: <83wn9rldn0.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 25 Sep 2022 17:41:55 +0300") References: <87edvz1rkf.fsf@gmail.com> <878rm7bk78.fsf@gnus.org> <83wn9rldn0.fsf@gnu.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAgMAAAAqbBEUAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAADFBMVEXjza7QuqCogWD/ //+BhT4TAAAAAWJLR0QDEQxM8gAAAAd0SU1FB+YJGQ4bJcRkGowAAAGoSURBVCjPLVFNi9swEB0t 9kJvCcSB7LmU9l/IsAm0Jwn0RO1bIQm1f8eS8zZUhua0Kbax5ld2pO2A7XnWvA9JRHuqCkWPRhlH eKZV8aGiKpiCXFXWzkDVAZqg96pU2ihQRQ2l0vKoE61Tr/LLkk1/qwy8KJMI5NmGQELPvRKfQj4Z iV5TpOaBmeuJhrXOIJ5rR77OMxVtZCyUrwkUmfMH4b3PAnCkTHYFbesfh1dTSrwHAXBl78qkGCg8 fa/6YJE5QFf2k0HqyOJs+2iM2EhQzOi5hlYyajyHnltgb2Tj236SlEBdg1rfJjC4lbpT5zkVIqnu HbR8WJKPH2bmR74ctfpJCFMCg8SNku2t50u8CifQo1jy3/EaNQWqTi334/gpajURTrj55bhd0tiu w22Inw+LE+kvDQaOnVqMrDSo2lv8qkYjHGtw4/mbnbTcAoxreb4YAWmzo+fh+vKWQRMVhunlrtVA eOLS+tF5XQfCmW98Xo61Vr9oB56DX/7fHOQwpJ5XctYB0dtm4HbuQEXl7R2DP7W/11QCuwiPI/SG XDAfsXNkrd78A4oupznw7ZKaAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIyLTA5LTI1VDE0OjI3OjM2 KzAwOjAwWLNk/wAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMi0wOS0yNVQxNDoyNzozNiswMDowMCnu 3EMAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Yukihiro Takahashi's _Neuromantic_: "Something in the Air" Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2022 16:46:01 +0200 Message-ID: <874jwvbjh2.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > You mean, no mailto:, no imap:, no irc:, no news:, no pop:, no rsync:, > etc.? Do we really want to drop support for all those schemes? From the new URL library? Definitely -- the current URL library hand-waves at handling some of those, but doesn't really, so there's not much to drop. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58049 Cc: arstoffel@gmail.com, stefankangas@gmail.com, 58049@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: > You mean, no mailto:, no imap:, no irc:, no news:, no pop:, no rsync:, > etc.? Do we really want to drop support for all those schemes? >From the new URL library? Definitely -- the current URL library hand-waves at handling some of those, but doesn't really, so there's not much to drop. (But other parts of Emacs handle mailto: just fine, and that'll continue to work.) 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I think I agree. Eli also has a point when he says that we might as well just leave the support in. How about saying in the URL manual that the info: and man: schemes as deprecated, so people at least won't try to use them in new code? That is a small change, but will also potentially make the transition to something new and improved a tiny bit easier. It'll also discourage anyone from attempting to re-implement it in the new library. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 25 11:37:36 2022 Received: (at 58049) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Sep 2022 15:37:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48363 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ocThI-0002cQ-Ho for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 11:37:36 -0400 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:49723) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ocThE-0002cA-7L for 58049@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 11:37:35 -0400 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:102.87.68.71]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000B80D2.00000000633075B5.0000764E; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 08:37:24 -0700 Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2022 14:52:27 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Stefan Kangas Subject: Re: bug#58049: 29.0.50; Obsolete url schemes "info" and "man" Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/+ () (2022-06-11) X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: * Stefan Kangas [2022-09-25 02:07]: > Severity: wishlist > > I don't think non-standard URLs like these are used much, and they're > probably not very useful. They're more lik [...] Content analysis details: (1.1 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.1 DATE_IN_PAST_03_06 Date: is 3 to 6 hours before Received: date -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58049 Cc: 58049@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) * Stefan Kangas [2022-09-25 02:07]: > Severity: wishlist > > I don't think non-standard URLs like these are used much, and they're > probably not very useful. They're more likely to cause confusion. > > (url-retrieve-synchronously "info:url#Retrieving URLs") > (url-retrieve-synchronously "man:cat") > > I suggest support for such URLs is obsoleted, and that they are removed > from (info "(url) Supported URL Types"). Please don't. There are many different URLs and you can't know how users have implemented it. Yes, I agree they are less known, less used, nevertheless it makes no sense to obsolete it. Hyperlinking is major computing feature since Doug Engelbart, and the fact that we have not implement it sufficiently does not mean it shall be obsoleted. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stefan Kangas writes: > How about saying in the URL manual that the info: and man: schemes as > deprecated, so people at least won't try to use them in new code? That > is a small change, but will also potentially make the [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58049 Cc: Augusto Stoffel , 58049@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Stefan Kangas writes: > How about saying in the URL manual that the info: and man: schemes as > deprecated, so people at least won't try to use them in new code? That > is a small change, but will also potentially make the transition to > something new and improved a tiny bit easier. It'll also discourage > anyone from attempting to re-implement it in the new library. I'm not sure that's really that helpful -- they're not deprecated in any "formal" sense, and I think the likelihood of them being reimplemented is minuscule. 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Fair enough. So I guess we want to leave this alone, and I'm closing this bug. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 27 02:21:31 2022 Received: (at 58049) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Sep 2022 06:21:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52245 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1od3yF-0007My-Da for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2022 02:21:31 -0400 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:56369) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1od3yE-0007Ml-C2 for 58049@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2022 02:21:31 -0400 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.4.116]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000B8039.0000000063329663.00002731; Mon, 26 Sep 2022 23:21:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 09:00:02 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#58049: 29.0.50; Obsolete url schemes "info" and "man" Message-ID: References: <87edvz1rkf.fsf@gmail.com> <878rm7bk78.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <878rm7bk78.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/+ () (2022-06-11) X-Spam-Score: 2.6 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: * Lars Ingebrigtsen [2022-09-25 17:32]: > Augusto Stoffel writes: > > > I can imagine many uses for this. For instance, a completion table > > could provide some [...] Content analysis details: (1.6 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.6 RCVD_IN_SBL RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus SBL [197.239.4.116 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager * Lars Ingebrigtsen [2022-09-25 17:32]: > Augusto Stoffel writes: > > > I can imagine many uses for this. For instance, a completion table > > could provide some kind of "further info" property so you can preview > > the documentation of an item mid-completion. > > Why on Earth would you use URL syntax for something like that? Just add > the "further info" property and link that up with a closure from a text > property or whatever > > I'm all for retiring the info: and man: schemes (since they are 100% > useless), but don't really see the need to do so piecemeal -- when Emacs > grows a new URL library that functions better than the current one, > it'll only support http(s) and file, so all this junk will disappear in > one fell swoop. Whatever you wish to remove, maybe I misunderstood it, but please do not remove functionality from goto-address-mode that I can make any kinds of links in Emacs buffers: man:man is link here. I can open it as C-c RET and such links may be automatically generated in my hyperlinking system, including many other links. URL schemes are standard, you do not just delete it because you do not know how why on Earth would somebody use it. Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. 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This bug is already closed, but for the record these URI schemes are not standard. 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