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To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:4860:4864:20::2b; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-oa1-x2b.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Severity: wishlist I think the explanation in (info "(elisp) Using Interactive") could include a pointer to `current-prefix-arg', which AFAICT is only documented much later in (info "(elisp) Prefix Command Arguments"). Perhaps something could be added also to (info "(elisp) Interactive Examples")? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 19 12:34:01 2022 Received: (at 57937) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2022 16:34:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55032 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oaJib-0001kj-0J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 12:34:01 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35442) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oaJiZ-0001kV-KB for 57937@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 12:34:00 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48992) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oaJiU-0000I4-BU; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 12:33:54 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=oGPL4C/wSoBmVcOd0qSdpd3WXVG3PBkCUmbJe5AzabQ=; b=XQ6K4w7pWyoif8aRERfM oEC8wuKpo+m+ZHi0b3V75++gFGO93nFc5Hp3ZLGabusE/UJ0QbA6QCXR3O9FKTl0jJONvmWJNQpC2 TkLYvHNGtOnZrlP21yTK8tpiRip33s4dFzG5k+3mW85y2K4w8RlDtWIjfzM7ENJfs7Xg4jrhckPRT OpcnIUvmNJQ7x4ZaYSxXCJubMzdgp09aqLHWDnpOtNof5HhESyDciTXjfmKFX9D0Shv7ZH5zHRW6l sDYLlV/MERLjTGQmiWnaSmYOy2kedPitci46tjF9q+nWBybnyKaLuyxMqT+oVaAKfJ7ImeR5X7p81 6KieRQO803bXcw==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4423 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oaJiT-0001UC-Oh; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 12:33:54 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 19:33:57 +0300 Message-Id: <83h713xr0q.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Mon, 19 Sep 2022 12:12:52 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#57937: 29.0.50; Improve doc of (interactive current-prefix-arg ...) References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57937 Cc: 57937@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 12:12:52 -0400 > > Severity: wishlist > > I think the explanation in (info "(elisp) Using Interactive") could > include a pointer to `current-prefix-arg', which AFAICT is only > documented much later in (info "(elisp) Prefix Command Arguments"). There is already such a pointer there: There are three possibilities for the argument ARG-DESCRIPTOR: • It may be omitted or ‘nil’; then the command is called with no arguments. This leads quickly to an error if the command requires one or more arguments. • It may be a string; its contents are a sequence of elements separated by newlines, one for each argument(1). Each element consists of a code character (*note Interactive Codes::) optionally followed by a prompt (which some code characters use and some ignore). Here is an example: (interactive "P\nbFrobnicate buffer: ") The code letter ‘P’ sets the command’s first argument to the raw command prefix (*note Prefix Command Arguments::). 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To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57937 Cc: 57937@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > There is already such a pointer there: > > There are three possibilities for the argument ARG-DESCRIPTOR: > > =E2=80=A2 It may be omitted or =E2=80=98nil=E2=80=99; ... > =E2=80=A2 It may be a string; ... I was thinking of this item: =E2=80=A2 It may be a Lisp expression that is not a string; ... Here, I'd like to see an example like: (interactive current-prefix-arg) and a brief pointer to `(elisp) Prefix Command Arguments'. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 19 22:27:31 2022 Received: (at 57937) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2022 02:27:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55679 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oaSyx-0004pm-Dz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 22:27:31 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36184) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oaSyw-0004pZ-3G for 57937@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 22:27:30 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50772) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oaSyq-0005Lv-Px; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 22:27:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=5UdPi91P1P80CFFiWZ+ev1QfZ2GOpoNLlFXlbO2s5Ks=; b=Adn2Px39ALqJvwcHaOXl HtsRgXlMq8FWKohNX+kcMVO2bwZdIY730vroLJbNJ7Y6YPbrIwDUAvWaXIGqSn8qLddOZDuGkDbCX VJZcZJdZhYfUbd5gSsByACYbS8wZopA+rN/LatKj8axu2XNsjQzAouUnQ7+o3eowFZ7BVbykcgp+f RwRYc7+za+ozhvg/Jcx4UKmpfawSCImvRPbBUyEdtDRgvLaNMzv7lMnub0SmnRH3FLHuEXPZmWG6f KKCMaLz1GZPMQNa0Qm6HFiQj/s8i/4zi+jVgwS7xVgVTjKmjjIsWoHLWIw2jmb3r8PkgcpEpULvaX BTgNgkaxDuE+Sg==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1055 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oaSyq-00072n-4C; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 22:27:24 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2022 05:27:28 +0300 Message-Id: <83czbqye3z.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Mon, 19 Sep 2022 15:35:12 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#57937: 29.0.50; Improve doc of (interactive current-prefix-arg ...) References: <83h713xr0q.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57937 Cc: 57937@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 15:35:12 -0400 > Cc: 57937@debbugs.gnu.org > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > There is already such a pointer there: > > > > There are three possibilities for the argument ARG-DESCRIPTOR: > > > > • It may be omitted or ‘nil’; ... > > • It may be a string; ... > > I was thinking of this item: > > • It may be a Lisp expression that is not a string; ... > > Here, I'd like to see an example like: > > (interactive current-prefix-arg) > > and a brief pointer to `(elisp) Prefix Command Arguments'. That comes _after_ the above-mention place, which already points to that node, so what would be the point and the importance of repeating the reference? Using current-prefix-arg in a Lisp expression is not different from using any other Lisp variable. 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