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23.1; man.el{,c} fails to load when utf-8 mode enabled

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From: "Randal L. Schwartz" <merlyn <at> stonehenge.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 23.1; man.el{,c} fails to load when utf-8 mode enabled
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:35:15 -0700 (PDT)

In my .emacs, I have:

  (set-terminal-coding-system 'utf-8)
  (set-keyboard-coding-system 'utf-8)

When I invoke M-x man, I get an invalid byte when trying to load
either the man.el or the man.elc.

Workaround is to (load "man") before turning on utf-8 mode.


In GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0)
 of 2010-03-28 on red.stonehenge.com
configured using `configure  '--with-x=no' '--prefix=/usr/local' '--mandir=/usr/local/man' '--infodir=/usr/local/info/' '--build=amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0' 'build_alias=amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0' 'CC=cc' 'CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: nil
  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
  locale-coding-system: nil
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: IRC

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Message #8 received at 5792 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> stupidchicken.com>
To: "Randal L. Schwartz" <merlyn <at> stonehenge.com>
Cc: 5792 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: 23.1; man.el{,c} fails to load when utf-8 mode enabled
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:48:13 -0400

> In my .emacs, I have:
>
>   (set-terminal-coding-system 'utf-8)
>   (set-keyboard-coding-system 'utf-8)
>
> When I invoke M-x man, I get an invalid byte when trying to load
> either the man.el or the man.elc.

Thanks for the bug report, but it's took vague for me to reproduce; for
instance, what do you mean by "get an invalid byte"?  Could you provide
a testcase starting from `emacs -Q'?

Message #11 received at 5792 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: merlyn <at> stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
To: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> stupidchicken.com>
Cc: 5792 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: 23.1; man.el{,c} fails to load when utf-8 mode enabled
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 08:53:50 -0700

>>>>> "Chong" == Chong Yidong <cyd <at> stupidchicken.com> writes:

>> In my .emacs, I have:
>> 
>> (set-terminal-coding-system 'utf-8)
>> (set-keyboard-coding-system 'utf-8)
>> 
>> When I invoke M-x man, I get an invalid byte when trying to load
>> either the man.el or the man.elc.

Chong> Thanks for the bug report, but it's took vague for me to reproduce; for
Chong> instance, what do you mean by "get an invalid byte"?  Could you provide
Chong> a testcase starting from `emacs -Q'?

I imagine it'd be something like

emacs -Q

M-: (set-terminal-coding-system 'utf-8) RET
M-: (set-keyboard-coding-system 'utf-8) RET
M-: (load-library "man) RET

which will blow up while trying to read the "man" library.  There's
something both the man.el and man.elc versions that is *not* utf-8
encoded, probably just latin1.

-- 
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<merlyn <at> stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
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Message #14 received at 5792 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> stupidchicken.com>
To: merlyn <at> stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Cc: 5792 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: 23.1; man.el{,c} fails to load when utf-8 mode enabled
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 12:57:49 -0400

merlyn <at> stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) writes:

> Chong> Thanks for the bug report, but it's took vague for me to reproduce; for
> Chong> instance, what do you mean by "get an invalid byte"?  Could you provide
> Chong> a testcase starting from `emacs -Q'?
>
> I imagine it'd be something like
>
> emacs -Q
>
> M-: (set-terminal-coding-system 'utf-8) RET
> M-: (set-keyboard-coding-system 'utf-8) RET
> M-: (load-library "man") RET
>
> which will blow up while trying to read the "man" library.

I don't see any error; man is loaded fine.

Message #17 received at 5792 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: merlyn <at> stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
To: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> stupidchicken.com>
Cc: 5792 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: 23.1; man.el{,c} fails to load when utf-8 mode enabled
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:04:55 -0700

>>>>> "Chong" == Chong Yidong <cyd <at> stupidchicken.com> writes:

Chong> merlyn <at> stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) writes:
Chong> Thanks for the bug report, but it's took vague for me to reproduce; for
Chong> instance, what do you mean by "get an invalid byte"?  Could you provide
Chong> a testcase starting from `emacs -Q'?
>> 
>> I imagine it'd be something like
>> 
>> emacs -Q
>> 
>> M-: (set-terminal-coding-system 'utf-8) RET
>> M-: (set-keyboard-coding-system 'utf-8) RET
>> M-: (load-library "man") RET
>> 
>> which will blow up while trying to read the "man" library.

Chong> I don't see any error; man is loaded fine.

Yup, same here.  So it's something more complex than this.

All I know is that in my .emacs, if I had this:

(set-terminal-coding-system 'utf-8)
(set-keyboard-coding-system 'utf-8)
(load-library "man")

it'd blow up.

But if I instead moved the load first:

(load-library "man")
(set-terminal-coding-system 'utf-8)
(set-keyboard-coding-system 'utf-8)

it worked ok.

I don't know how to simulate that from emacs -Q.

-- 
Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095
<merlyn <at> stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
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Message #20 received at 5792 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: merlyn <at> stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Cc: cyd <at> stupidchicken.com, 5792 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#5792: 23.1; man.el{,c} fails to load when utf-8 mode enabled
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:26:50 +0300

> From: merlyn <at> stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:04:55 -0700
> Cc: 5792 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> All I know is that in my .emacs, if I had this:
> 
> (set-terminal-coding-system 'utf-8)
> (set-keyboard-coding-system 'utf-8)
> (load-library "man")
> 
> it'd blow up.

I don't see how setting terminal and keyboard encoding could affect
loading a Lisp file.  These settings are relevant only to keyboard
input and terminal output.

Could you perhaps bisect your .emacs to find out what else is needed
to reproduce this problem?

Message #23 received at 5792 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: merlyn <at> stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: cyd <at> stupidchicken.com, 5792 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#5792: 23.1; man.el{,c} fails to load when utf-8 mode enabled
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:38:04 -0700

>>>>> "Eli" == Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

Eli> Could you perhaps bisect your .emacs to find out what else is needed
Eli> to reproduce this problem?

Got it.  It was an old man.elc in my private .elib compiled before
utf8 probably even existed. :)

Sorry for the misinform.  Thanks.

-- 
Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095
<merlyn <at> stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
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