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28.1; run-python fails when using tramp-sshfs

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From: sbaugh <at> catern.com
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 28.1; run-python fails when using tramp-sshfs
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2022 22:55:17 +0000 (UTC)

1. Open a remote Python file with /sshfs:hostname:/path/to/file.py
2. Hit C-c C-p (run-python) to start a Python REPL
3. Observe a failure with the message:
tramp-send-string: Process *tramp/sshfs earth* not running



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Message #8 received at 57786 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: sbaugh <at> catern.com
Cc: 57786 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#57786: 28.1; run-python fails when using tramp-sshfs
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2022 09:29:35 +0200

sbaugh <at> catern.com writes:

Hi,

> 1. Open a remote Python file with /sshfs:hostname:/path/to/file.py
> 2. Hit C-c C-p (run-python) to start a Python REPL
> 3. Observe a failure with the message:
> tramp-send-string: Process *tramp/sshfs earth* not running

I can reproduce it with Emacs 28.1, 28.2 and 29.0.50.

However, it seems that this isn't supported by python.el. It uses
internal Tramp functions from tramp-sh.el, so it is unlikely it will run
over an sshfs connection.

Perhaps an error message from python.el is needed, saying "Remote
connection `sshfs' isn't supported for processes". or alike.

Best regards, Michael.

Message #11 received at 57786 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh <at> catern.com>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: 57786 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#57786: 28.1; run-python fails when using tramp-sshfs
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2022 11:25:01 +0000 (UTC)

Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de> writes:
> sbaugh <at> catern.com writes:
>> 1. Open a remote Python file with /sshfs:hostname:/path/to/file.py
>> 2. Hit C-c C-p (run-python) to start a Python REPL
>> 3. Observe a failure with the message:
>> tramp-send-string: Process *tramp/sshfs earth* not running
>
> I can reproduce it with Emacs 28.1, 28.2 and 29.0.50.
>
> However, it seems that this isn't supported by python.el. It uses
> internal Tramp functions from tramp-sh.el, so it is unlikely it will run
> over an sshfs connection.
>
> Perhaps an error message from python.el is needed, saying "Remote
> connection `sshfs' isn't supported for processes". or alike.

Seems like a bug in python.el then; the sshfs TRAMP method has better
performance than the ssh method, so it would be nice to be able to use
it when editing Python files...

Message #14 received at 57786 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh <at> catern.com>
Cc: "Fabián E. Gallina" <fgallina <at> gnu.org>,
 Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel <at> gmail.com>, 57786 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#57786: 28.1; run-python fails when using tramp-sshfs
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2022 13:39:34 +0200

Spencer Baugh <sbaugh <at> catern.com> writes:

Hi Spencer,

>>> 1. Open a remote Python file with /sshfs:hostname:/path/to/file.py
>>> 2. Hit C-c C-p (run-python) to start a Python REPL
>>> 3. Observe a failure with the message:
>>> tramp-send-string: Process *tramp/sshfs earth* not running
>>
>> I can reproduce it with Emacs 28.1, 28.2 and 29.0.50.
>>
>> However, it seems that this isn't supported by python.el. It uses
>> internal Tramp functions from tramp-sh.el, so it is unlikely it will run
>> over an sshfs connection.
>>
>> Perhaps an error message from python.el is needed, saying "Remote
>> connection `sshfs' isn't supported for processes". or alike.
>
> Seems like a bug in python.el then; the sshfs TRAMP method has better
> performance than the ssh method, so it would be nice to be able to use
> it when editing Python files...

Perhaps. I'm adding Fabián and Augusto to Cc.

Note that there were discsussions in the emacs-devel ML to "normalize"
the Tramp use in Python. This is mainly stalled, because I have no real
insight what Python needs.

Best regards, Michael.

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