From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 12 16:45:02 2022 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2022 20:45:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48150 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oXqIf-0002QZ-Tx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2022 16:45:02 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:34138) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oXpDA-0000eM-Mo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2022 15:35:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57462) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oXpD8-0005JZ-WF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2022 15:35:15 -0400 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:34427) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oXpD6-0002bh-LA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2022 15:35:14 -0400 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D6E3240101 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2022 21:35:09 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1663011310; bh=Te2gTY+WciAmKfzobwjIUXLEzOrcwLaYeppyYqHkRrM=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=rlQCF0lm1qNVJ39/brRnpmap3cDSR5zLgkZbMb07JwxdQIMIYrMgxALLyz/SDdlgi keuKK58/o6WFWpEJu/2uoyRQK96B7UQRNAybsN0oJLcAnpv+jsdu8nxs1BHPuQhq9k +NmLVdBwNpgcyv3a0jOToMybq5QrvQ7YSAnrMX1AJdDoRuuGZRbNdPP0ItHnMk7OmL n8Lwk9RLPodLcXmdZ2KWetMxZdnZbCxnpPw0VvruWRnGJ78c8Dg56OBXaCiYAFh1zX THfzbJBn1WZFsqlnQ1M/tkuAvaM+Yhh0oahNQsrSFVyS3R9sh4NghupSeD5nUdg0CZ KiAjlLTJXKiGQ== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4MRGyj3gw6z6tmK for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2022 21:35:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2022 19:35:07 +0000 From: Alexandros Prekates To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 27.1; Error in Indirect buffers commands in the manual Message-ID: <20220912223507.1915b4c2@enoush2o> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=aprekates@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -29 X-Spam_score: -3.0 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SCC_BODY_URI_ONLY=1.439, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 12 Sep 2022 16:45:00 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) The manual as it is now https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Indirect-Buffers.html it creates wrong expectations regarding M-x clone-indirect-buffer RET and 'C-x 4 c' Not that we have two commands doing the same due to default values to DISPLAY-FLAG but that one will create a cloned buffer in the same window and the other in another window. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 13 08:12:49 2022 Received: (at 57753) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2022 12:12:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49174 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oY4mW-0005wq-Sq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2022 08:12:49 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:35974) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oY4mU-0005wb-AX for 57753@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2022 08:12:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=u0YbNynvvjnCxQ1kl0t7SAQkbf5Ugc2sbSbxxfLXN0I=; b=JSQ7wo8Ai41go5n8PGvI+0fTWP cB5I0SRbBayhjU1rgxo0d0EyMojwzNlZDrPNUIVXhMYiQj8TshxBZeK5IFCcdqE7C/zKP84Ry/uNi +ClVj7g30gIK6dXC4drprIVuiM76LtRt1p+a03F7h4gO/Fb7UphY8rMnYe2puWYxK8mA=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=joga) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oY4mK-0002RC-Pf; Tue, 13 Sep 2022 14:12:39 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Alexandros Prekates Subject: Re: bug#57753: 27.1; Error in Indirect buffers commands in the manual In-Reply-To: <20220912223507.1915b4c2@enoush2o> (Alexandros Prekates's message of "Mon, 12 Sep 2022 19:35:07 +0000") References: <20220912223507.1915b4c2@enoush2o> X-Now-Playing: Hood's _Noise, Warmth and Unassuming Grace_: "A Pleasure Deferred" Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2022 14:12:34 +0200 Message-ID: <87h71b3231.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Alexandros Prekates writes: > The manual as it is now > https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Indirect-Buffers.html > it creates wrong expectations > regarding M-x clone-indirect-buffer RET > and 'C-x 4 c' > [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57753 Cc: 57753@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Alexandros Prekates writes: > The manual as it is now > https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Indirect-Buffers.html > it creates wrong expectations > regarding M-x clone-indirect-buffer RET > and 'C-x 4 c' > Not that we have two commands doing the same due to default values to > DISPLAY-FLAG but that one will create a cloned buffer in the same window > and the other in another window. I've now fixed the manual in Emacs 29 here -- there's no point in mentioning both commands. The only difference is if you have `pop-up-windows' set to nil (the default is t) -- so by default, the commands are identical. 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