From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:19:12 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#5765 <5765@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#5765 <5765@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name Reply-To: bug#5765 <5765@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:19:12 +0000 retitle 5765 Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name reassign 5765 emacs submitter 5765 Lennart Borgman severity 5765 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 24 08:51:37 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2010 12:51:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuQ3c-0008JU-Ty for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:51:37 -0400 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuQ3O-0008JO-Ty for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:51:35 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:51134) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NuQ3J-0007kT-O9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:51:17 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NuQ3J-0007Wy-82 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:51:17 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51018 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NuQ3D-0007Gd-Ro for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:51:16 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.0 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuPqZ-0006e7-23 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:38:07 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.155]:65205) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuPqX-0006dW-Bc; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:38:05 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1014421fgb.12 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 05:38:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GpCDYDzXh3gJsHLjI+dbKOYlnTo7FQaRovJxS8e0zNY=; b=PMTeqEzCMRw1Ir/qItjhKb3Z0x5tR8/cBuFGu+v1Pireoh8aNfbvS4g//bIDNQBu4W cXDWxjZ0Pa3J2hPqDM6hq7/R3rWU2KZ7WlmkSvmpA/aNyJRCRnCJGiyexbnuul/BvEeQ 9xeJQcjlG8xmrO3GeoXyibbFdhyNHistZ1y2o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wWiXMNFqJECG0LACGEg26jPNqXj+8m6K2sZ01DGt77MS7dtop1ZB1E1CUYR47kH2t/ RgUNxsnbwx8kLlotZwk1Vu/XDYI1KD45jYXQ5+o+FUyylybgOEEdWiZGz1ns5fuNym18 JElcTZsZpnUcVpyC0y3QKSFsr3I0Y+J4eCH+E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.187.72 with SMTP id k8mr764151hbh.47.1269434284149; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 05:38:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Lennart Borgman Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:37:44 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name To: Emacs Bugs , Emacs-Devel devel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) I have still got no answer to this one so I am cc:ing emacs devel list. On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Lennart Borgman wrote: > I got no answer so I am sending a bug report. This is a very > irritating bug that hits me all the time. > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Lennart Borgman > Date: Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:16 PM > Subject: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name > To: Emacs-Devel devel > > > I do not know if this is a bug in Emacs sources from 2010-01-26 or > something I had introduced in some way. However C-v does not work for > me in the read-file-name prompt (C-x C-f) any more. Checking the key > binding I get this in a normal buffer > > =C2=A0C-v is bound to `cua-paste' in `cua--cua-keys-keymap' > > but in the C-x C-f prompt I get: > > =C2=A0C-v is bound to `cua-scroll-up' in `global-map' > > I have no idea what has happened. However first I noticed some > problems with Viper (eh, yes, I use viper-mode and cua-mode > together...). I have customized viper so that C-v is not bound there, > but for some reason it showed up bound (to quote-insert) which it was > not before. > > I looked a bit but could not find out what has happened so I did a > quick workaround for the viper problem. Then instead this cua-mode > problem emerged. > > I do not know how to reproduce this from "emacs -Q" at the moment. And > I can't see what is wrong. All keymaps looks as I expect them to do > (including emulation-mode-map-alist). It just looks like > emulation-mode-map-alist is bypassed. > > I can reproduce it with > > =C2=A0 emacs --no-desktop > =C2=A0 C-x b somename RET RET > =C2=A0 C-x C-f C-v > > The problem is there in the 2010-01-21 checkout (unpatched) but not in > 2009-12-04 (patched). Unfortunately I have nothing in between there. > > > Anyone have any idea what is going on here? Writing this message it is > more and more clear to me there is some rather serious bug here. I > just have no idea how to track it down. > From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 24 13:09:56 2010 Received: (at 5765) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2010 17:09:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuU5b-0001VK-UN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:09:56 -0400 Received: from pantheon-po34.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.80]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuU5a-0001VE-CC for 5765@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:09:54 -0400 Received: from furry (dhcp128036014175.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.175]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po34.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2OH9naE021038 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:09:49 -0400 Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AB7FFC011; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:09:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: Lennart Borgman Subject: Re: bug#5765: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name References: Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:09:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:37:44 +0100") Message-ID: <87eij9r6hu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5765 Cc: 5765@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) Lennart Borgman writes: >> C-v does not work for me in the read-file-name prompt (C-x C-f) any >> more. >> >> I do not know how to reproduce this from "emacs -Q" at the moment. And >> I can't see what is wrong. All keymaps looks as I expect them to do >> (including emulation-mode-map-alist). It just looks like >> emulation-mode-map-alist is bypassed. >> >> I can reproduce it with >> >> emacs --no-desktop >> C-x b somename RET RET >> C-x C-f C-v >> >> The problem is there in the 2010-01-21 checkout (unpatched) but not in >> 2009-12-04 (patched). Unfortunately I have nothing in between there. Please bisect your customizations to find the minimally reproducible test case. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 24 14:29:03 2010 Received: (at 5765) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2010 18:29:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuVKB-0002ui-2U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:29:03 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.155]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuVK8-0002uN-G3 for 5765@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:29:01 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so1176542fga.15 for <5765@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:28:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rcDAWSYL2daAGDLSkZFhzfweb3yeDsjVUstp/RzQpAs=; b=jRwEMgXA3raj/4t+33IFSxp6hFlYvkvEhVPAKQkfEvUviIvltKxmN/TYSU3uUvQGW5 +U1ybM5bDqSuS9+c9uU8mOPl/qBtKR98Xqdk2FAAOPc6MuAkE+9miqEoD2jl4L6k9iby WcQ60CXjaU3P+OFYmDVTlzTt8GQmZobcA6kZU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Pu6JRSffEvfYAzLR9INwakKEKvaQwRk/T5+556Ka1E7iRp3bC3ps3CTmLD7yVib/bw qyS/mfm3NOGMcFpfMRavdyveJJ3bVuKEo90LerNUfLBqNXrIFuHlgSI4YNwJQwKp7+gd gUg8+S8koUvJ2IA3i81blTtf5LaddgmjhfU3Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.181.73 with SMTP id l9mr997444hbg.55.1269455335186; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:28:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87eij9r6hu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <87eij9r6hu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> From: Lennart Borgman Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:28:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5765: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name To: Chong Yidong Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5765 Cc: 5765@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Chong Yidong wrote= : > Lennart Borgman writes: > >>> C-v does not work for me in the read-file-name prompt (C-x C-f) any >>> more. >>> >>> I do not know how to reproduce this from "emacs -Q" at the moment. And >>> I can't see what is wrong. All keymaps looks as I expect them to do >>> (including emulation-mode-map-alist). It just looks like >>> emulation-mode-map-alist is bypassed. >>> >>> I can reproduce it with >>> >>> =C2=A0emacs --no-desktop >>> =C2=A0C-x b somename RET RET >>> =C2=A0C-x C-f C-v >>> >>> The problem is there in the 2010-01-21 checkout (unpatched) but not in >>> 2009-12-04 (patched). Unfortunately I have nothing in between there. > > Please bisect your customizations to find the minimally reproducible > test case. I have not been able to do that. However I know that I get the same problem with for example M-: (completing-read "my prompt: " '("a" "b")) I can't find any involved variable that looks suspect. Could you maybe come up with something to check? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 24 16:45:03 2010 Received: (at 5765) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2010 20:45:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuXRm-0003py-58 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:45:02 -0400 Received: from pantheon-po33.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.94]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuXRk-0003pf-Qi for 5765@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:45:01 -0400 Received: from furry (dhcp128036014175.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.175]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po33.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2OKiubf031500 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:44:56 -0400 Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B3BD8C011; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:44:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: Lennart Borgman Subject: Re: bug#5765: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name References: <87eij9r6hu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:44:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:28:35 +0100") Message-ID: <87iq8l1mbc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5765 Cc: 5765@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) Lennart Borgman writes: >> Please bisect your customizations to find the minimally reproducible >> test case. > > I have not been able to do that. However I know that I get the same > problem with for example > > M-: (completing-read "my prompt: " '("a" "b")) > > I can't find any involved variable that looks suspect. Could you maybe > come up with something to check? If this is so simple to reproduce with customizations, I don't see why it should be so difficult to bisect the customizations and find the problem. It's far easier than asking others to deduce the bug from first principles. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 24 21:18:16 2010 Received: (at 5765) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2010 01:18:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NubiB-00060B-LG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:18:16 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.155]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nubi9-000605-Hm for 5765@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:18:14 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so1291821fga.15 for <5765@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:18:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YeZsOQntjU0fvU1gFqnA2eKUUpPkhdOw1U25rHH76+A=; b=tqC6WUzCeIvchjeXYs2HXvSi7rkVKo7SsqWljoJDQuI9EykyjgdxsvnWiDt64PylLs /g8Ht93bGhD63lcbV17Q84SH/32XkBXVjBtSHphEuQIYqXRBwZENa8zRgLvxVWQ4dSV1 K8fdKLISnN+f5uE0HmQBS2fTivAqQzGtJDIiA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dlHx5Q3galvCbLdNN/WI1g/oAjX9yrG5mVAGHQSdM1ECYTAhIfill6ppGEP9ilM9YG m2/JHHAUBuBQziJKiqW7DXLCyI1O877fYJ6JTXUpK37E5E/fNxgAFSH1VVBeMWgk9Czp zgSHh58kOS4p0BQi81gbwofcllWc+fBJajrcE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.162.210 with SMTP id m18mr509519hbd.189.1269479889147; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:18:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87iq8l1mbc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <87eij9r6hu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87iq8l1mbc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> From: Lennart Borgman Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 02:17:49 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5765: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name To: Chong Yidong Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5765 Cc: 5765@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Chong Yidong wrote= : > Lennart Borgman writes: > >>> Please bisect your customizations to find the minimally reproducible >>> test case. >> >> I have not been able to do that. However I know that I get the same >> problem with for example >> >> =C2=A0 M-: (completing-read "my prompt: " '("a" "b")) >> >> I can't find any involved variable that looks suspect. Could you maybe >> come up with something to check? > > If this is so simple to reproduce with customizations, I don't see why > it should be so difficult to bisect the customizations and find the > problem. =C2=A0It's far easier than asking others to deduce the bug from > first principles. Of course I have tried that, but I could not find the problem. I needed to do certain things after to make it happens. Now I think I have found the problem. In ido-minibuffer-setup (in ido.el) there is a line (setq cua-inhibit-cua-keys t) I have had that commented out for long in my patched version of Emacs, but forgot to tell about it. Some merging breaked this. I see no reason why it should be there. Could it please be removed (or commented out) if no one else sees a reason for it? (Then we have to find another way to solve this bug.) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 28 21:23:59 2010 Received: (at 5765) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2010 01:24:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7ITv-0001eS-GG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:23:59 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.155]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7ITs-0001eN-Vc for 5765@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:23:57 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so1963193fga.15 for <5765@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:23:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=scVfE5RB6WqzNRRaSaXdC/tc58mJ5lyV1AMSRDbp+vk=; b=fDySto7f11MKAjc0pcelioJgVIasxUhqubf2aWDzfr4zMwrgtBVgfdpIzxH29uijLA bMnyESMHWaMKqCF0mUfj9qjZCIT+qRv4WcC7sUoJnapLbYrIgdS9qZuFHiO+HrBKrmAx Vsk0XMWZ71fA2dqRmMaOCQNCqEBstidPo3zao= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Q1Ivby/1YDnk48duhy1pyAqkjMzlMfe23dCouPyg9lFKsaF9mfnoMoVJPx4p0kLVni ZZ8/T7W8+pNsQp61qtCFE2JpH5/6Yin938OkLftin2hx1xYKLyucQQJz+ckdGZzTwZgk degJfIKpdIr4lYhb9eroI54YUHgpocbb+hDRY= Received: by 10.239.187.131 with SMTP id l3mr742024hbh.104.1272504235140; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:23:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.164.81 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:23:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87eij9r6hu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87iq8l1mbc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> From: Lennart Borgman Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 03:23:35 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5765: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name To: Chong Yidong , Stefan Monnier , "Kim F. Storm" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5765 Cc: 5765@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) Nothing happened to this so I am sending this again. Could this please be fixed before the release? Kim, could you perhaps comment on this? Could the line (setq cua-inhibit-cua-keys t) be removed? On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Lennart Borgman wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Chong Yidong wro= te: >> Lennart Borgman writes: >> >>>> Please bisect your customizations to find the minimally reproducible >>>> test case. >>> >>> I have not been able to do that. However I know that I get the same >>> problem with for example >>> >>> =C2=A0 M-: (completing-read "my prompt: " '("a" "b")) >>> >>> I can't find any involved variable that looks suspect. Could you maybe >>> come up with something to check? >> >> If this is so simple to reproduce with customizations, I don't see why >> it should be so difficult to bisect the customizations and find the >> problem. =C2=A0It's far easier than asking others to deduce the bug from >> first principles. > > > Of course I have tried that, but I could not find the problem. I > needed to do certain things after to make it happens. > > Now I think I have found the problem. In ido-minibuffer-setup (in > ido.el) there is a line > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0(setq cua-inhibit-cua-keys t) > > I have had that commented out for long in my patched version of Emacs, > but forgot to tell about it. Some merging breaked this. > > I see no reason why it should be there. Could it please be removed (or > commented out) if no one else sees a reason for it? (Then we have to > find another way to solve this bug.) > From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 29 08:16:26 2010 Received: (at 5765) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2010 12:16:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7SfJ-00077K-Jz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:16:26 -0400 Received: from ge0.mail1.hoer.dk.ip.fullrate.dk ([90.185.1.42] helo=smtp.fullrate.dk) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7S3e-0006n8-AH for 5765@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 07:37:31 -0400 Received: from kfs-lx.rd.rdm.cua.dk (3008ds4-amb.0.fullrate.dk [90.184.173.162]) by smtp.fullrate.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id D0EEF9D3E8; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:37:28 +0200 (CEST) From: no-spam@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) To: Lennart Borgman Subject: Re: bug#5765: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name References: <87eij9r6hu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87iq8l1mbc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:37:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Thu, 29 Apr 2010 03:23:35 +0200") Message-ID: <877hnqpk08.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5765 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:16:17 -0400 Cc: 5765@debbugs.gnu.org, Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , "Kim F. Storm" X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Lennart Borgman writes: > Nothing happened to this so I am sending this again. Could this please > be fixed before the release? > > Kim, could you perhaps comment on this? Could the line > > (setq cua-inhibit-cua-keys t) > > be removed? IIRC, the reason for this was the following binding in ido file mode: (define-key map "\C-v" 'ido-toggle-vc) If cua-mode is enabled, C-v is processed by cua (as paste), shadowing the above command. I guess nobody really uses that specific feature of ido. I used to use it a lot back when I wrote ido, but never uses it these days. So the best thing to do would be to remove the above binding - then you can also remove the setting of cua-inhibit-cua-keys. Or just remove the setting of cua-inhibit-cua-keys as you suggest; this effectively makes the other binding a noop if cua-mode is enabled. Kim > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Lennart Borgman > wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Chong Yidong wr= ote: >>> Lennart Borgman writes: >>> >>>>> Please bisect your customizations to find the minimally reproducible >>>>> test case. >>>> >>>> I have not been able to do that. However I know that I get the same >>>> problem with for example >>>> >>>> =C2=A0 M-: (completing-read "my prompt: " '("a" "b")) >>>> >>>> I can't find any involved variable that looks suspect. Could you maybe >>>> come up with something to check? >>> >>> If this is so simple to reproduce with customizations, I don't see why >>> it should be so difficult to bisect the customizations and find the >>> problem. =C2=A0It's far easier than asking others to deduce the bug from >>> first principles. >> >> >> Of course I have tried that, but I could not find the problem. I >> needed to do certain things after to make it happens. >> >> Now I think I have found the problem. In ido-minibuffer-setup (in >> ido.el) there is a line >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0(setq cua-inhibit-cua-keys t) >> >> I have had that commented out for long in my patched version of Emacs, >> but forgot to tell about it. Some merging breaked this. >> >> I see no reason why it should be there. Could it please be removed (or >> commented out) if no one else sees a reason for it? (Then we have to >> find another way to solve this bug.) >> > > > --=20 Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 29 11:42:49 2010 Received: (at 5765) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2010 15:42:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7Vt2-0000Le-Lt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:42:48 -0400 Received: from pantheon-po15.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.71]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7Vsy-0000LY-PT for 5765@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:42:46 -0400 Received: from furry (dhcp128036014104.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.104]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po15.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o3TFgVMf008697 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:42:31 -0400 Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 301B8C055; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:42:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: no-spam@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Subject: Re: bug#5765: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name References: <87eij9r6hu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87iq8l1mbc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <877hnqpk08.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:42:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: <877hnqpk08.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> (Kim F. Storm's message of "Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:37:27 +0200") Message-ID: <8739ye1d08.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.96 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5765 Cc: 5765@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Lennart Borgman , Stefan Monnier , "Kim F. Storm" X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) no-spam@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes: >> Nothing happened to this so I am sending this again. Could this please >> be fixed before the release? >> >> Kim, could you perhaps comment on this? Could the line >> >> (setq cua-inhibit-cua-keys t) >> >> be removed? > > IIRC, the reason for this was the following binding in ido file mode: > > (define-key map "\C-v" 'ido-toggle-vc) > > If cua-mode is enabled, C-v is processed by cua (as paste), shadowing the > above command. > > I guess nobody really uses that specific feature of ido. > I used to use it a lot back when I wrote ido, but never uses it these days. > > So the best thing to do would be to remove the above binding - then you > can also remove the setting of cua-inhibit-cua-keys. Done. (In the trunk, not in the branch; this is not serious enough to make an exception to the regressions-only policy). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 29 11:45:34 2010 Received: (at 5765) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2010 15:45:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7Vvi-0000NK-02 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:45:34 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.154]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7Vvg-0000ND-7d for 5765@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:45:32 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so2287233fga.15 for <5765@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:45:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5GVVjYEY1HFYbLWYHT9srE3N/SyLMNwZfksFy6MmPXQ=; b=r1+F2VKAvxWMuotzstNXj0cUwvcSCspvN916zs+RqGXxOBml5HHOniBpSizUlSJ3Ac itR6L6dWB9hbMoOHXauRspWsFVIgOJ+4ZRt0/ngTmpVWtJWQgRvl0qi2J/q8ugwRxcIX iNRnqwP8wF2F4to54h9G1htXha8YKXjJIcOSA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uBhwjjqv0T1FuIiSyAMnZ+wW5YK+UrG3lIg9l7Aq1wRb55GJYKxB1qb4Tm4Xs9EYL+ /YTFuMMpS7TzbzBKI9n1cUwp5XXlYnrU75bHLfugadKriy0FLnXltCgCYqmWN90mNXbn 1+JhBLC59SbpxgQhBg6O+VG8ghWKBR2H9J63I= Received: by 10.239.187.131 with SMTP id l3mr838500hbh.104.1272555932142; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:45:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.164.81 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:45:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8739ye1d08.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <87eij9r6hu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87iq8l1mbc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <877hnqpk08.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <8739ye1d08.fsf@stupidchicken.com> From: Lennart Borgman Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 17:45:12 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5765: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name To: Chong Yidong Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5765 Cc: 5765@debbugs.gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , "Kim F. Storm" X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Chong Yidong wrote= : > no-spam@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes: > >>> Nothing happened to this so I am sending this again. Could this please >>> be fixed before the release? >>> >>> Kim, could you perhaps comment on this? Could the line >>> >>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0(setq cua-inhibit-cua-keys t) >>> >>> be removed? >> >> IIRC, the reason for this was the following binding in ido file mode: >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (define-key map "\C-v" 'ido-toggle-vc) >> >> If cua-mode is enabled, C-v is processed by cua (as paste), shadowing th= e >> above command. >> >> I guess nobody really uses that specific feature of ido. >> I used to use it a lot back when I wrote ido, but never uses it these da= ys. >> >> So the best thing to do would be to remove the above binding - then you >> can also remove the setting of cua-inhibit-cua-keys. > > Done. > > (In the trunk, not in the branch; this is not serious enough to make an > exception to the regressions-only policy). Thanks. But maybe it is serious enough for the release because CUA keys does not work in the minibuffer at all without this change. (And I doubt it can break anything.) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 29 18:52:03 2010 Received: (at 5765) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2010 22:52:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7caR-0003or-7m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:52:03 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7caP-0003oV-4V for 5765@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:52:01 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAOeq2UvO+KoL/2dsb2JhbACdFXK/C4UQBIwb X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,298,1270440000"; d="scan'208";a="62892773" Received: from 206-248-170-11.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([206.248.170.11]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2010 18:51:55 -0400 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 99607660C1; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:51:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Lennart Borgman Subject: Re: bug#5765: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name Message-ID: References: <87eij9r6hu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87iq8l1mbc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <877hnqpk08.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <8739ye1d08.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:51:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Thu, 29 Apr 2010 17:45:12 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5765 Cc: 5765@debbugs.gnu.org, Chong Yidong , "Kim F. Storm" , emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) > But maybe it is serious enough for the release because CUA keys does > not work in the minibuffer at all without this change. (And I doubt it > can break anything.) It's been that way for a long time, so there's no hurry to fix it. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 29 19:54:57 2010 Received: (at 5765) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2010 23:54:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7dZI-0004HG-Po for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 19:54:57 -0400 Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com ([209.85.161.44]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7dZG-0004HA-H1 for 5765@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 19:54:55 -0400 Received: by fxm4 with SMTP id 4so1470934fxm.3 for <5765@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:54:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=OR1eTX4Qd0zzvVpydrkKY6Fm9bpp+AHP0QSRbbNLQcc=; b=A+EeavEvcWUvo1gZut95O51LYodzsWkHADbT1Vf/8l0LmyUZIogA4yFFG3wxOUNcZR 4ZfCffRaq/ApP3XSW2TPJdVzaSh9ejNQne8jmr0YHju6n1FwIB+H8wcI97ZJyIkcGoTZ jbxh4zmWnal2EHdAKJY7/adE2bduKOy9JagRY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=xo7+q5lstpQgY681fu1l0T3a6tgoR0X1vCOGlV+o6Vxt5YhquAxzdd20Ub8cbswUlb VZr6sdF0cwIpgsdnxT/PbK8zVORKgjknR8bvIM3fLuyAkIC40K/QDLLGaJflGM3ybYA6 5/QmeoleRvTNew6UIPX4skVXztbjaKDySrJSQ= Received: by 10.239.193.136 with SMTP id j8mr878117hbi.143.1272585294097; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:54:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.164.81 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:54:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87eij9r6hu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87iq8l1mbc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <877hnqpk08.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <8739ye1d08.fsf@stupidchicken.com> From: Lennart Borgman Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 01:54:34 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5765: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name To: Stefan Monnier Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5765 Cc: 5765@debbugs.gnu.org, Chong Yidong , "Kim F. Storm" , emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> But maybe it is serious enough for the release because CUA keys does >> not work in the minibuffer at all without this change. (And I doubt it >> can break anything.) > > It's been that way for a long time, so there's no hurry to fix it. Normally I would agree with that reasoning, but not here. The reason it has been this way for a long time is probably because cua-mode has not got much attention. It has been kind of a second class citizen. Perhaps no one really expected it to work. I think it would be good to show that we care about this. Doesn't this change only affect cua-mode users? I think those desire this change. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 30 05:58:19 2010 Received: (at 5765) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Apr 2010 09:58:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7mzD-0000sF-1b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 05:58:19 -0400 Received: from ge0.mail1.hoer.dk.ip.fullrate.dk ([90.185.1.42] helo=smtp.fullrate.dk) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7mzA-0000s8-Io for 5765@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 05:58:18 -0400 Received: from kfs-lx.rd.rdm.cua.dk (3008ds4-amb.0.fullrate.dk [90.184.173.162]) by smtp.fullrate.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id AD9D89D03D; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:58:17 +0200 (CEST) From: no-spam@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) To: Lennart Borgman Subject: Re: bug#5765: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name References: <87eij9r6hu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87iq8l1mbc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <877hnqpk08.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <8739ye1d08.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:58:17 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Fri, 30 Apr 2010 01:54:34 +0200") Message-ID: <87tyqtntxi.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5765 Cc: 5765@debbugs.gnu.org, Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , "Kim F. Storm" X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Lennart Borgman writes: > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Stefan Monnier > wrote: >>> But maybe it is serious enough for the release because CUA keys does >>> not work in the minibuffer at all without this change. (And I doubt it >>> can break anything.) >> >> It's been that way for a long time, so there's no hurry to fix it. > > > Normally I would agree with that reasoning, but not here. The reason > it has been this way for a long time is probably because cua-mode has > not got much attention. It has been kind of a second class citizen. > Perhaps no one really expected it to work. I think it would be good to > show that we care about this. > > Doesn't this change only affect cua-mode users? I think those desire > this change. The basic question is: Is this a regression wrt 23.1 or not? -- Kim F. 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