From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:58:16 2025 X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: bug#5765: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 5765 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 5765@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: Emacs Bugs , Emacs-Devel devel Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.126943509731963 (code B ref -1); Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:52:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2010 12:51:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuQ3c-0008JU-Ty for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:51:37 -0400 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuQ3O-0008JO-Ty for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:51:35 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:51134) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NuQ3J-0007kT-O9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:51:17 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NuQ3J-0007Wy-82 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:51:17 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51018 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NuQ3D-0007Gd-Ro for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:51:16 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.0 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuPqZ-0006e7-23 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:38:07 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.155]:65205) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuPqX-0006dW-Bc; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:38:05 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1014421fgb.12 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 05:38:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GpCDYDzXh3gJsHLjI+dbKOYlnTo7FQaRovJxS8e0zNY=; b=PMTeqEzCMRw1Ir/qItjhKb3Z0x5tR8/cBuFGu+v1Pireoh8aNfbvS4g//bIDNQBu4W cXDWxjZ0Pa3J2hPqDM6hq7/R3rWU2KZ7WlmkSvmpA/aNyJRCRnCJGiyexbnuul/BvEeQ 9xeJQcjlG8xmrO3GeoXyibbFdhyNHistZ1y2o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wWiXMNFqJECG0LACGEg26jPNqXj+8m6K2sZ01DGt77MS7dtop1ZB1E1CUYR47kH2t/ RgUNxsnbwx8kLlotZwk1Vu/XDYI1KD45jYXQ5+o+FUyylybgOEEdWiZGz1ns5fuNym18 JElcTZsZpnUcVpyC0y3QKSFsr3I0Y+J4eCH+E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.187.72 with SMTP id k8mr764151hbh.47.1269434284149; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 05:38:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Lennart Borgman Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:37:44 +0100 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) I have still got no answer to this one so I am cc:ing emacs devel list. On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Lennart Borgman wrote: > I got no answer so I am sending a bug report. This is a very > irritating bug that hits me all the time. > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Lennart Borgman > Date: Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:16 PM > Subject: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name > To: Emacs-Devel devel > > > I do not know if this is a bug in Emacs sources from 2010-01-26 or > something I had introduced in some way. However C-v does not work for > me in the read-file-name prompt (C-x C-f) any more. Checking the key > binding I get this in a normal buffer > > =C2=A0C-v is bound to `cua-paste' in `cua--cua-keys-keymap' > > but in the C-x C-f prompt I get: > > =C2=A0C-v is bound to `cua-scroll-up' in `global-map' > > I have no idea what has happened. However first I noticed some > problems with Viper (eh, yes, I use viper-mode and cua-mode > together...). I have customized viper so that C-v is not bound there, > but for some reason it showed up bound (to quote-insert) which it was > not before. > > I looked a bit but could not find out what has happened so I did a > quick workaround for the viper problem. Then instead this cua-mode > problem emerged. > > I do not know how to reproduce this from "emacs -Q" at the moment. And > I can't see what is wrong. All keymaps looks as I expect them to do > (including emulation-mode-map-alist). It just looks like > emulation-mode-map-alist is bypassed. > > I can reproduce it with > > =C2=A0 emacs --no-desktop > =C2=A0 C-x b somename RET RET > =C2=A0 C-x C-f C-v > > The problem is there in the 2010-01-21 checkout (unpatched) but not in > 2009-12-04 (patched). Unfortunately I have nothing in between there. > > > Anyone have any idea what is going on here? Writing this message it is > more and more clear to me there is some rather serious bug here. I > just have no idea how to track it down. > From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:58:16 2025 X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: bug#5765: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name Resent-From: Chong Yidong Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 5765 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lennart Borgman Cc: 5765@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Received: via spool by 5765-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5765.12694505965789 (code B ref 5765); Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:10:02 +0000 Received: (at 5765) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2010 17:09:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuU5b-0001VK-UN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:09:56 -0400 Received: from pantheon-po34.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.80]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuU5a-0001VE-CC for 5765@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:09:54 -0400 Received: from furry (dhcp128036014175.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.175]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po34.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2OH9naE021038 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:09:49 -0400 Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AB7FFC011; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:09:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong References: Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:09:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:37:44 +0100") Message-ID: <87eij9r6hu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) Lennart Borgman writes: >> C-v does not work for me in the read-file-name prompt (C-x C-f) any >> more. >> >> I do not know how to reproduce this from "emacs -Q" at the moment. And >> I can't see what is wrong. All keymaps looks as I expect them to do >> (including emulation-mode-map-alist). It just looks like >> emulation-mode-map-alist is bypassed. >> >> I can reproduce it with >> >> emacs --no-desktop >> C-x b somename RET RET >> C-x C-f C-v >> >> The problem is there in the 2010-01-21 checkout (unpatched) but not in >> 2009-12-04 (patched). Unfortunately I have nothing in between there. Please bisect your customizations to find the minimally reproducible test case. From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:58:16 2025 X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: bug#5765: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:30:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 5765 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Chong Yidong Cc: 5765@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Received: via spool by 5765-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5765.126945534311207 (code B ref 5765); Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:30:03 +0000 Received: (at 5765) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2010 18:29:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuVKB-0002ui-2U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:29:03 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.155]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuVK8-0002uN-G3 for 5765@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:29:01 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so1176542fga.15 for <5765@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:28:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rcDAWSYL2daAGDLSkZFhzfweb3yeDsjVUstp/RzQpAs=; b=jRwEMgXA3raj/4t+33IFSxp6hFlYvkvEhVPAKQkfEvUviIvltKxmN/TYSU3uUvQGW5 +U1ybM5bDqSuS9+c9uU8mOPl/qBtKR98Xqdk2FAAOPc6MuAkE+9miqEoD2jl4L6k9iby WcQ60CXjaU3P+OFYmDVTlzTt8GQmZobcA6kZU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Pu6JRSffEvfYAzLR9INwakKEKvaQwRk/T5+556Ka1E7iRp3bC3ps3CTmLD7yVib/bw qyS/mfm3NOGMcFpfMRavdyveJJ3bVuKEo90LerNUfLBqNXrIFuHlgSI4YNwJQwKp7+gd gUg8+S8koUvJ2IA3i81blTtf5LaddgmjhfU3Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.181.73 with SMTP id l9mr997444hbg.55.1269455335186; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:28:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87eij9r6hu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <87eij9r6hu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> From: Lennart Borgman Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:28:35 +0100 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Chong Yidong wrote= : > Lennart Borgman writes: > >>> C-v does not work for me in the read-file-name prompt (C-x C-f) any >>> more. >>> >>> I do not know how to reproduce this from "emacs -Q" at the moment. And >>> I can't see what is wrong. All keymaps looks as I expect them to do >>> (including emulation-mode-map-alist). It just looks like >>> emulation-mode-map-alist is bypassed. >>> >>> I can reproduce it with >>> >>> =C2=A0emacs --no-desktop >>> =C2=A0C-x b somename RET RET >>> =C2=A0C-x C-f C-v >>> >>> The problem is there in the 2010-01-21 checkout (unpatched) but not in >>> 2009-12-04 (patched). Unfortunately I have nothing in between there. > > Please bisect your customizations to find the minimally reproducible > test case. I have not been able to do that. However I know that I get the same problem with for example M-: (completing-read "my prompt: " '("a" "b")) I can't find any involved variable that looks suspect. Could you maybe come up with something to check? From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:58:16 2025 X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: bug#5765: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name Resent-From: Chong Yidong Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 5765 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lennart Borgman Cc: 5765@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Received: via spool by 5765-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5765.126946350314757 (code B ref 5765); Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:46:02 +0000 Received: (at 5765) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2010 20:45:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuXRm-0003py-58 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:45:02 -0400 Received: from pantheon-po33.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.94]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuXRk-0003pf-Qi for 5765@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:45:01 -0400 Received: from furry (dhcp128036014175.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.175]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po33.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2OKiubf031500 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:44:56 -0400 Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B3BD8C011; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:44:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong References: <87eij9r6hu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:44:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:28:35 +0100") Message-ID: <87iq8l1mbc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) Lennart Borgman writes: >> Please bisect your customizations to find the minimally reproducible >> test case. > > I have not been able to do that. However I know that I get the same > problem with for example > > M-: (completing-read "my prompt: " '("a" "b")) > > I can't find any involved variable that looks suspect. Could you maybe > come up with something to check? If this is so simple to reproduce with customizations, I don't see why it should be so difficult to bisect the customizations and find the problem. It's far easier than asking others to deduce the bug from first principles. From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:58:16 2025 X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: bug#5765: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 01:19:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 5765 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Chong Yidong Cc: 5765@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Received: via spool by 5765-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5765.126947989623078 (code B ref 5765); Thu, 25 Mar 2010 01:19:02 +0000 Received: (at 5765) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2010 01:18:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NubiB-00060B-LG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:18:16 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.155]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nubi9-000605-Hm for 5765@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:18:14 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so1291821fga.15 for <5765@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:18:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YeZsOQntjU0fvU1gFqnA2eKUUpPkhdOw1U25rHH76+A=; b=tqC6WUzCeIvchjeXYs2HXvSi7rkVKo7SsqWljoJDQuI9EykyjgdxsvnWiDt64PylLs /g8Ht93bGhD63lcbV17Q84SH/32XkBXVjBtSHphEuQIYqXRBwZENa8zRgLvxVWQ4dSV1 K8fdKLISnN+f5uE0HmQBS2fTivAqQzGtJDIiA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dlHx5Q3galvCbLdNN/WI1g/oAjX9yrG5mVAGHQSdM1ECYTAhIfill6ppGEP9ilM9YG m2/JHHAUBuBQziJKiqW7DXLCyI1O877fYJ6JTXUpK37E5E/fNxgAFSH1VVBeMWgk9Czp zgSHh58kOS4p0BQi81gbwofcllWc+fBJajrcE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.162.210 with SMTP id m18mr509519hbd.189.1269479889147; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:18:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87iq8l1mbc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <87eij9r6hu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87iq8l1mbc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> From: Lennart Borgman Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 02:17:49 +0100 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Chong Yidong wrote= : > Lennart Borgman writes: > >>> Please bisect your customizations to find the minimally reproducible >>> test case. >> >> I have not been able to do that. However I know that I get the same >> problem with for example >> >> =C2=A0 M-: (completing-read "my prompt: " '("a" "b")) >> >> I can't find any involved variable that looks suspect. Could you maybe >> come up with something to check? > > If this is so simple to reproduce with customizations, I don't see why > it should be so difficult to bisect the customizations and find the > problem. =C2=A0It's far easier than asking others to deduce the bug from > first principles. Of course I have tried that, but I could not find the problem. I needed to do certain things after to make it happens. Now I think I have found the problem. In ido-minibuffer-setup (in ido.el) there is a line (setq cua-inhibit-cua-keys t) I have had that commented out for long in my patched version of Emacs, but forgot to tell about it. Some merging breaked this. I see no reason why it should be there. Could it please be removed (or commented out) if no one else sees a reason for it? (Then we have to find another way to solve this bug.) From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:58:16 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#5765: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 01:24:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 5765 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Chong Yidong , Stefan Monnier , "Kim F. Storm" Cc: 5765@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Received: via spool by 5765-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5765.12725042406355 (code B ref 5765); Thu, 29 Apr 2010 01:24:02 +0000 Received: (at 5765) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2010 01:24:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7ITv-0001eS-GG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:23:59 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.155]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7ITs-0001eN-Vc for 5765@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:23:57 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so1963193fga.15 for <5765@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:23:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=scVfE5RB6WqzNRRaSaXdC/tc58mJ5lyV1AMSRDbp+vk=; b=fDySto7f11MKAjc0pcelioJgVIasxUhqubf2aWDzfr4zMwrgtBVgfdpIzxH29uijLA bMnyESMHWaMKqCF0mUfj9qjZCIT+qRv4WcC7sUoJnapLbYrIgdS9qZuFHiO+HrBKrmAx Vsk0XMWZ71fA2dqRmMaOCQNCqEBstidPo3zao= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Q1Ivby/1YDnk48duhy1pyAqkjMzlMfe23dCouPyg9lFKsaF9mfnoMoVJPx4p0kLVni ZZ8/T7W8+pNsQp61qtCFE2JpH5/6Yin938OkLftin2hx1xYKLyucQQJz+ckdGZzTwZgk degJfIKpdIr4lYhb9eroI54YUHgpocbb+hDRY= Received: by 10.239.187.131 with SMTP id l3mr742024hbh.104.1272504235140; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:23:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.164.81 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:23:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87eij9r6hu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87iq8l1mbc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> From: Lennart Borgman Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 03:23:35 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) Nothing happened to this so I am sending this again. Could this please be fixed before the release? Kim, could you perhaps comment on this? Could the line (setq cua-inhibit-cua-keys t) be removed? On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Lennart Borgman wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Chong Yidong wro= te: >> Lennart Borgman writes: >> >>>> Please bisect your customizations to find the minimally reproducible >>>> test case. >>> >>> I have not been able to do that. However I know that I get the same >>> problem with for example >>> >>> =C2=A0 M-: (completing-read "my prompt: " '("a" "b")) >>> >>> I can't find any involved variable that looks suspect. Could you maybe >>> come up with something to check? >> >> If this is so simple to reproduce with customizations, I don't see why >> it should be so difficult to bisect the customizations and find the >> problem. =C2=A0It's far easier than asking others to deduce the bug from >> first principles. > > > Of course I have tried that, but I could not find the problem. I > needed to do certain things after to make it happens. > > Now I think I have found the problem. In ido-minibuffer-setup (in > ido.el) there is a line > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0(setq cua-inhibit-cua-keys t) > > I have had that commented out for long in my patched version of Emacs, > but forgot to tell about it. Some merging breaked this. > > I see no reason why it should be there. Could it please be removed (or > commented out) if no one else sees a reason for it? (Then we have to > find another way to solve this bug.) > From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:58:16 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#5765: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name Resent-From: no-spam@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 12:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 5765 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lennart Borgman Cc: 5765@debbugs.gnu.org, Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , "Kim F. Storm" Received: via spool by 5765-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5765.127254338627367 (code B ref 5765); Thu, 29 Apr 2010 12:17:02 +0000 Received: (at 5765) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2010 12:16:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7SfJ-00077K-Jz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:16:26 -0400 Received: from ge0.mail1.hoer.dk.ip.fullrate.dk ([90.185.1.42] helo=smtp.fullrate.dk) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7S3e-0006n8-AH for 5765@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 07:37:31 -0400 Received: from kfs-lx.rd.rdm.cua.dk (3008ds4-amb.0.fullrate.dk [90.184.173.162]) by smtp.fullrate.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id D0EEF9D3E8; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:37:28 +0200 (CEST) From: no-spam@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) References: <87eij9r6hu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87iq8l1mbc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:37:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Thu, 29 Apr 2010 03:23:35 +0200") Message-ID: <877hnqpk08.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:16:17 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Lennart Borgman writes: > Nothing happened to this so I am sending this again. Could this please > be fixed before the release? > > Kim, could you perhaps comment on this? Could the line > > (setq cua-inhibit-cua-keys t) > > be removed? IIRC, the reason for this was the following binding in ido file mode: (define-key map "\C-v" 'ido-toggle-vc) If cua-mode is enabled, C-v is processed by cua (as paste), shadowing the above command. I guess nobody really uses that specific feature of ido. I used to use it a lot back when I wrote ido, but never uses it these days. So the best thing to do would be to remove the above binding - then you can also remove the setting of cua-inhibit-cua-keys. Or just remove the setting of cua-inhibit-cua-keys as you suggest; this effectively makes the other binding a noop if cua-mode is enabled. Kim > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Lennart Borgman > wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Chong Yidong wr= ote: >>> Lennart Borgman writes: >>> >>>>> Please bisect your customizations to find the minimally reproducible >>>>> test case. >>>> >>>> I have not been able to do that. However I know that I get the same >>>> problem with for example >>>> >>>> =C2=A0 M-: (completing-read "my prompt: " '("a" "b")) >>>> >>>> I can't find any involved variable that looks suspect. Could you maybe >>>> come up with something to check? >>> >>> If this is so simple to reproduce with customizations, I don't see why >>> it should be so difficult to bisect the customizations and find the >>> problem. =C2=A0It's far easier than asking others to deduce the bug from >>> first principles. >> >> >> Of course I have tried that, but I could not find the problem. I >> needed to do certain things after to make it happens. >> >> Now I think I have found the problem. In ido-minibuffer-setup (in >> ido.el) there is a line >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0(setq cua-inhibit-cua-keys t) >> >> I have had that commented out for long in my patched version of Emacs, >> but forgot to tell about it. Some merging breaked this. >> >> I see no reason why it should be there. Could it please be removed (or >> commented out) if no one else sees a reason for it? (Then we have to >> find another way to solve this bug.) >> > > > --=20 Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:58:16 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#5765: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name Resent-From: Chong Yidong Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:43:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 5765 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: no-spam@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Cc: 5765@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Lennart Borgman , Stefan Monnier , "Kim F. Storm" Received: via spool by 5765-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5765.12725557691345 (code B ref 5765); Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:43:02 +0000 Received: (at 5765) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2010 15:42:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7Vt2-0000Le-Lt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:42:48 -0400 Received: from pantheon-po15.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.71]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7Vsy-0000LY-PT for 5765@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:42:46 -0400 Received: from furry (dhcp128036014104.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.104]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po15.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o3TFgVMf008697 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:42:31 -0400 Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 301B8C055; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:42:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong References: <87eij9r6hu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87iq8l1mbc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <877hnqpk08.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:42:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: <877hnqpk08.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> (Kim F. Storm's message of "Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:37:27 +0200") Message-ID: <8739ye1d08.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.96 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) no-spam@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes: >> Nothing happened to this so I am sending this again. Could this please >> be fixed before the release? >> >> Kim, could you perhaps comment on this? Could the line >> >> (setq cua-inhibit-cua-keys t) >> >> be removed? > > IIRC, the reason for this was the following binding in ido file mode: > > (define-key map "\C-v" 'ido-toggle-vc) > > If cua-mode is enabled, C-v is processed by cua (as paste), shadowing the > above command. > > I guess nobody really uses that specific feature of ido. > I used to use it a lot back when I wrote ido, but never uses it these days. > > So the best thing to do would be to remove the above binding - then you > can also remove the setting of cua-inhibit-cua-keys. Done. (In the trunk, not in the branch; this is not serious enough to make an exception to the regressions-only policy). From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:58:16 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#5765: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:46:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 5765 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Chong Yidong Cc: 5765@debbugs.gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , "Kim F. Storm" Received: via spool by 5765-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5765.12725559341449 (code B ref 5765); Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:46:01 +0000 Received: (at 5765) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2010 15:45:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7Vvi-0000NK-02 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:45:34 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.154]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7Vvg-0000ND-7d for 5765@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:45:32 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so2287233fga.15 for <5765@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:45:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5GVVjYEY1HFYbLWYHT9srE3N/SyLMNwZfksFy6MmPXQ=; b=r1+F2VKAvxWMuotzstNXj0cUwvcSCspvN916zs+RqGXxOBml5HHOniBpSizUlSJ3Ac itR6L6dWB9hbMoOHXauRspWsFVIgOJ+4ZRt0/ngTmpVWtJWQgRvl0qi2J/q8ugwRxcIX iNRnqwP8wF2F4to54h9G1htXha8YKXjJIcOSA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uBhwjjqv0T1FuIiSyAMnZ+wW5YK+UrG3lIg9l7Aq1wRb55GJYKxB1qb4Tm4Xs9EYL+ /YTFuMMpS7TzbzBKI9n1cUwp5XXlYnrU75bHLfugadKriy0FLnXltCgCYqmWN90mNXbn 1+JhBLC59SbpxgQhBg6O+VG8ghWKBR2H9J63I= Received: by 10.239.187.131 with SMTP id l3mr838500hbh.104.1272555932142; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:45:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.164.81 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:45:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8739ye1d08.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <87eij9r6hu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87iq8l1mbc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <877hnqpk08.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <8739ye1d08.fsf@stupidchicken.com> From: Lennart Borgman Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 17:45:12 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Chong Yidong wrote= : > no-spam@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes: > >>> Nothing happened to this so I am sending this again. Could this please >>> be fixed before the release? >>> >>> Kim, could you perhaps comment on this? Could the line >>> >>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0(setq cua-inhibit-cua-keys t) >>> >>> be removed? >> >> IIRC, the reason for this was the following binding in ido file mode: >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (define-key map "\C-v" 'ido-toggle-vc) >> >> If cua-mode is enabled, C-v is processed by cua (as paste), shadowing th= e >> above command. >> >> I guess nobody really uses that specific feature of ido. >> I used to use it a lot back when I wrote ido, but never uses it these da= ys. >> >> So the best thing to do would be to remove the above binding - then you >> can also remove the setting of cua-inhibit-cua-keys. > > Done. > > (In the trunk, not in the branch; this is not serious enough to make an > exception to the regressions-only policy). Thanks. But maybe it is serious enough for the release because CUA keys does not work in the minibuffer at all without this change. (And I doubt it can break anything.) From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:58:16 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#5765: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 5765 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lennart Borgman Cc: 5765@debbugs.gnu.org, Chong Yidong , "Kim F. Storm" , emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" Received: via spool by 5765-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5765.127258152314688 (code B ref 5765); Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:53:02 +0000 Received: (at 5765) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2010 22:52:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7caR-0003or-7m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:52:03 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7caP-0003oV-4V for 5765@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:52:01 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAOeq2UvO+KoL/2dsb2JhbACdFXK/C4UQBIwb X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,298,1270440000"; d="scan'208";a="62892773" Received: from 206-248-170-11.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([206.248.170.11]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2010 18:51:55 -0400 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 99607660C1; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:51:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <87eij9r6hu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87iq8l1mbc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <877hnqpk08.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <8739ye1d08.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:51:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Thu, 29 Apr 2010 17:45:12 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) > But maybe it is serious enough for the release because CUA keys does > not work in the minibuffer at all without this change. (And I doubt it > can break anything.) It's been that way for a long time, so there's no hurry to fix it. Stefan From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:58:16 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#5765: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 23:55:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 5765 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 5765@debbugs.gnu.org, Chong Yidong , "Kim F. Storm" , emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" Received: via spool by 5765-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5765.127258529716449 (code B ref 5765); Thu, 29 Apr 2010 23:55:01 +0000 Received: (at 5765) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2010 23:54:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7dZI-0004HG-Po for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 19:54:57 -0400 Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com ([209.85.161.44]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7dZG-0004HA-H1 for 5765@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 19:54:55 -0400 Received: by fxm4 with SMTP id 4so1470934fxm.3 for <5765@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:54:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=OR1eTX4Qd0zzvVpydrkKY6Fm9bpp+AHP0QSRbbNLQcc=; b=A+EeavEvcWUvo1gZut95O51LYodzsWkHADbT1Vf/8l0LmyUZIogA4yFFG3wxOUNcZR 4ZfCffRaq/ApP3XSW2TPJdVzaSh9ejNQne8jmr0YHju6n1FwIB+H8wcI97ZJyIkcGoTZ jbxh4zmWnal2EHdAKJY7/adE2bduKOy9JagRY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=xo7+q5lstpQgY681fu1l0T3a6tgoR0X1vCOGlV+o6Vxt5YhquAxzdd20Ub8cbswUlb VZr6sdF0cwIpgsdnxT/PbK8zVORKgjknR8bvIM3fLuyAkIC40K/QDLLGaJflGM3ybYA6 5/QmeoleRvTNew6UIPX4skVXztbjaKDySrJSQ= Received: by 10.239.193.136 with SMTP id j8mr878117hbi.143.1272585294097; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:54:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.164.81 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:54:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87eij9r6hu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87iq8l1mbc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <877hnqpk08.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <8739ye1d08.fsf@stupidchicken.com> From: Lennart Borgman Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 01:54:34 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> But maybe it is serious enough for the release because CUA keys does >> not work in the minibuffer at all without this change. (And I doubt it >> can break anything.) > > It's been that way for a long time, so there's no hurry to fix it. Normally I would agree with that reasoning, but not here. The reason it has been this way for a long time is probably because cua-mode has not got much attention. It has been kind of a second class citizen. Perhaps no one really expected it to work. I think it would be good to show that we care about this. Doesn't this change only affect cua-mode users? I think those desire this change. From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:58:16 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#5765: Strange things happens with C-v in read-file-name Resent-From: no-spam@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 5765 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lennart Borgman Cc: 5765@debbugs.gnu.org, Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , "Kim F. Storm" Received: via spool by 5765-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5765.12726214993366 (code B ref 5765); Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:59:02 +0000 Received: (at 5765) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Apr 2010 09:58:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7mzD-0000sF-1b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 05:58:19 -0400 Received: from ge0.mail1.hoer.dk.ip.fullrate.dk ([90.185.1.42] helo=smtp.fullrate.dk) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7mzA-0000s8-Io for 5765@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 05:58:18 -0400 Received: from kfs-lx.rd.rdm.cua.dk (3008ds4-amb.0.fullrate.dk [90.184.173.162]) by smtp.fullrate.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id AD9D89D03D; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:58:17 +0200 (CEST) From: no-spam@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) References: <87eij9r6hu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87iq8l1mbc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <877hnqpk08.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <8739ye1d08.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:58:17 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Fri, 30 Apr 2010 01:54:34 +0200") Message-ID: <87tyqtntxi.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Lennart Borgman writes: > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Stefan Monnier > wrote: >>> But maybe it is serious enough for the release because CUA keys does >>> not work in the minibuffer at all without this change. (And I doubt it >>> can break anything.) >> >> It's been that way for a long time, so there's no hurry to fix it. > > > Normally I would agree with that reasoning, but not here. The reason > it has been this way for a long time is probably because cua-mode has > not got much attention. It has been kind of a second class citizen. > Perhaps no one really expected it to work. I think it would be good to > show that we care about this. > > Doesn't this change only affect cua-mode users? I think those desire > this change. The basic question is: Is this a regression wrt 23.1 or not? -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 24 21:17:00 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Feb 2011 02:17:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PsnEq-0000OB-Cb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:17:00 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PsnEo-0000Nx-Ey for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:16:58 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PsnEj-0008Hm-0g for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:16:53 -0500 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:16:53 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 5765 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) merge 5511 5765 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 06 19:30:39 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2011 23:30:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R156E-0004ML-AX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:30:39 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R1568-0004KN-OW for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:30:33 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R152Q-0006xj-VT for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:26:42 -0400 Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:26:42 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 5765 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) close 5765 24.1