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c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=i0zPF6/1Z1fcMF8Kq9JfcNHJgygBf6bovQwbzElzGk51yPqkxvxmSBuFTFDCbFUjA/ t2pc2YRoKoLlh32E01wbmCbcfM4dfgELGAOC3Ya6HKpojcYqZLQj80CYjiN8vljHRvc9 EaTGWR+C/C8NhgBl1Iln3TW6YAxMyeusl084k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.142.211 with SMTP id h19mr727414hba.164.1269305180116; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:46:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Lennart Borgman Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 01:46:00 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: To: Emacs Bugs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) Shift-select in cua-mode does not work in org-mode although org-replace-disputed-keys is t, org-disputed-keys are set for shift arrow keys and org-support-shift-select is always In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2010-03-21 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/g/include -fno-crossjumping' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 23 23:12:12 2010 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 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3 Feb 2014 00:22:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46940 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WA7Iw-0003j1-21 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Feb 2014 19:22:26 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:55270) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WA7Iu-0003it-7s for 5753@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Feb 2014 19:22:24 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WA7Ig-000863-B0; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 01:22:10 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Lennart Borgman Subject: Re: bug#5753: something, something, org-mode, shift-select, something References: Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2014 16:21:14 -0800 In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Tue, 23 Mar 2010 01:46:00 +0100") Message-ID: <87d2j5avwl.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1WA7Ig-000863-B0 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1391991730.87893@r+D/ltcadjZ+GOyKSPLhTA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5753 Cc: 5753@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Lennart Borgman writes: > Shift-select in cua-mode does not work in org-mode although > org-replace-disputed-keys is t, org-disputed-keys are set for shift > arrow keys and org-support-shift-select is always Is this problem still present in Emacs 24.3? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 02 19:22:44 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 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[134.190.135.117]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id t5sm9607617qat.6.2014.02.08.17.26.29 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 08 Feb 2014 17:26:29 -0800 (PST) From: "N. Jackson" Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug Subject: Re: bug#5753: something, something, org-mode, shift-select, something References: Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 21:25:31 -0400 Message-ID: <87bnyhm60k.fsf@moondust.localdomain> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:LfVXwhqZ19BfARGA1UC5tSDPXYg= In-Reply-To: (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 02 Feb 2014 16:21:14 -0800") MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Posted-To: gnu.emacs.bug X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5753 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 20:34:05 -0500 Cc: 5753@debbugs.gnu.org, Lennart Borgman X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to gnu.emacs.bug as well. Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Lennart Borgman writes: > >> Shift-select in cua-mode does not work in org-mode although >> org-replace-disputed-keys is t, org-disputed-keys are set for shift >> arrow keys and org-support-shift-select is always > > Is this problem still present in Emacs 24.3? Naturally I can't answer for the OP (and I don't know about disputed keys) but I can report that in general this problem persists in Emacs 24.3. On GNU Emacs 24.3.1 [1], shift select does not work in org mode. I'm not certain this is a bug, as my understanding is that the org authors did not design it to work with shift select? In any case, I use a very simple workaround which makes shift select work just fine in org mode; I've never had any problems with it. It looks like this (Note: It is of unknown provenance, aside from the attribution in the comment.): ;; This snippit from jisang-yoo on reddit to enable shift select in org ;; mode when cua-mode is on. (eval-after-load "org" '(progn (eval-after-load "cua-base" '(progn (defadvice org-call-for-shift-select (before org-call-for-shift-select-cua activate) (if (and cua-mode org-support-shift-select (not (use-region-p))) (cua-set-mark))))))) ;; End jisang-yoo snippit With this in my org settings, I have no problems with shift select except that you cannot start a selection on a timestamp (because shift with cursor keys adjusts timestamps), but I've learnt to automatically start my selection from the end of the line above the timestamp so I don't have any problems. I hope this information is of some use. [1] GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.8.2) of 2013-08-14 on buildvm-15.phx2.fedoraproject.org From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 09 06:06:30 2014 Received: (at 5753) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2014 11:06:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59322 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCSDS-00087i-Vd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 06:06:30 -0500 Received: from mail-wg0-f53.google.com ([74.125.82.53]:52094) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCSDM-00087W-Rx for 5753@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 06:06:25 -0500 Received: by mail-wg0-f53.google.com with SMTP id y10so3473211wgg.32 for <5753@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 03:06:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=XlxQjGe/Kya246+mXP8pat2a/kaWnkEXxYl8sOqcBwY=; b=aMf5NPusz1PBQccm/k9UV5cTKVnImt3OSbFywOhiyhglhzKWGacZea/DuhPHtjcpO5 rEDpRcw2pzOtx++KMGRrNASxh78K1A75LJPYQrruoY/97ES43KBzcRg5zBsAMz0y/qsq nS0N9Npx9WoA9CiaYflfHY6tM9aiMb8foQ5rPz2q6dSGtNIXTkG/crmThtB88GQfQCih xZq+mNp2U7j8Qn7GK7lLs429yf6tpbTlG7EmjkyZ9Rwt1IQlUYsQWRkY7PM8FxK233Va bcWJu/SrojtP+LFuukTefZZdQ0PRoN1LPEKdWfIpZXJmHBUa/Q9bk1g+jj5ewaRTQcOC mslQ== X-Received: by 10.194.110.135 with SMTP id ia7mr17662648wjb.5.1391943978535; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 03:06:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.77.226 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Feb 2014 03:05:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87bnyhm60k.fsf@moondust.localdomain> References: <87bnyhm60k.fsf@moondust.localdomain> From: Lennart Borgman Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 12:05:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5753: something, something, org-mode, shift-select, something To: "N. Jackson" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bf10a8463526404f1f73662 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5753 Cc: 5753@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --047d7bf10a8463526404f1f73662 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 2:25 AM, N. Jackson wrote: > The following message is a courtesy copy of an article > that has been posted to gnu.emacs.bug as well. > > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > > > Lennart Borgman writes: > > > >> Shift-select in cua-mode does not work in org-mode although > >> org-replace-disputed-keys is t, org-disputed-keys are set for shift > >> arrow keys and org-support-shift-select is always > > > > Is this problem still present in Emacs 24.3? > > Naturally I can't answer for the OP (and I don't know about disputed > keys) but I can report that in general this problem persists in Emacs > 24.3. > > On GNU Emacs 24.3.1 [1], shift select does not work in org mode. I'm not > certain this is a bug, as my understanding is that the org authors did > not design it to work with shift select? > > In any case, I use a very simple workaround which makes shift select > work just fine in org mode; I've never had any problems with it. It > looks like this (Note: It is of unknown provenance, aside from the > attribution in the comment.): > > ;; This snippit from jisang-yoo on reddit to enable shift select in org > ;; mode when cua-mode is on. > (eval-after-load "org" > '(progn > (eval-after-load "cua-base" > '(progn > (defadvice org-call-for-shift-select (before > org-call-for-shift-select-cua activate) > (if (and cua-mode > org-support-shift-select (not (use-region-p))) > (cua-set-mark))))))) > ;; End jisang-yoo snippit > > With this in my org settings, I have no problems with shift select > except that you cannot start a selection on a timestamp (because shift > with cursor keys adjusts timestamps), but I've learnt to automatically > start my selection from the end of the line above the timestamp so I > don't have any problems. > > I hope this information is of some use. > > [1] GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.8.2) of > 2013-08-14 on buildvm-15.phx2.fedoraproject.org > > > Thanks Jason. I can't test now myself. I think this problem illustrates very well why cua-mode must be made a first class citizen in Emacs. Without that problems like this are showing up for beginners. --047d7bf10a8463526404f1f73662 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On S= un, Feb 9, 2014 at 2:25 AM, N. Jackson <gentleundercurrent@gmail.com> w= rote:
The following message is a courtesy copy of = an article
that has been posted to gnu.emacs.bug as well.

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Shift-select in cua-mode does not work in org-mode although
>> org-replace-disputed-keys is t, org-disputed-keys are set for shif= t
>> arrow keys and org-support-shift-select is always
>
> Is this problem still present in Emacs 24.3?

Naturally I can't answer for the OP (and I don't know about dispute= d
keys) but I can report that in general this problem persists in Emacs
24.3.

On GNU Emacs 24.3.1 [1], shift select does not work in org mode. I'm no= t
certain this is a bug, as my understanding is that the org authors did
not design it to work with shift select?

In any case, I use a very simple workaround which makes shift select
work just fine in org mode; I've never had any problems with it. It
looks like this (Note: It is of unknown provenance, aside from the
attribution in the comment.):

;; This snippit from jisang-yoo on reddit to enable shift select in org
;; mode when cua-mode is on.
(eval-after-load "org"
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 '(progn
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(eval-after-load "cua-base"
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0'(progn
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (defadvice org-call-for-shift-sel= ect (before
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 org-call-for-shift-select-cua act= ivate)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (if (and cua-mode
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0org-support-shift-select (not (use-region-p)))
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (cua-set-mar= k)))))))
;; End jisang-yoo snippit

With this in my org settings, I have no problems with shift select
except that you cannot start a selection on a timestamp (because shift
with cursor keys adjusts timestamps), but I've learnt to automatically<= br> start my selection from the end of the line above the timestamp so I
don't have any problems.

I hope this information is of some use.

[1] GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.8.2) of
2013-08-14 on
buildvm-15.phx2.fedoraproject.org


Thanks Jason. I can't test now myself.
I think this problem illustrates very well why cua-mode must be made a fir= st class citizen in Emacs. Without that problems like this are showing up f= or beginners.=C2=A0

--047d7bf10a8463526404f1f73662-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 09 06:09:15 2014 Received: (at 5753) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2014 11:09:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59326 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCSG6-0008Bx-4j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 06:09:14 -0500 Received: from mail-wi0-f174.google.com ([209.85.212.174]:63049) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCSG0-0008Bl-R9 for 5753@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 06:09:09 -0500 Received: by mail-wi0-f174.google.com with SMTP id f8so2020240wiw.1 for <5753@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 03:09:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=fkkVAm8Rl9PvkGz4AwU90eXD5Z/THN4IVA2vdLSeeBE=; b=SlXiGxzMjuFYGYNddk+dbM5wOfyR1WZ/HcQIuj1fjf9Yc3c5mNVdbtY9MbHU0bQRnW 25lgnRPTbSMWX51Swxy+MZu2FjCI2BXVcA6BZ/DacLp8vYSR6v3QsX7eg97KXuwV9Dfr qS1/ySSzAE7wuTFhdizV9li2a1uxhtKeZO5gx4UvW+Ie6XlM7S9tQg09itMSeFi2jJYT 4D/iR+/JmIUGfUMZ0cV7ldSNNsK8MUefFRouNbAoQZCu+zU0rCw7+1bHw/OBqUTAkro0 8SmTTGWJSH7j0R9fNVk1cjiKbaKe/TvC/qc1gup92DNMgGgJ7AyZ5UU64Y8mvhZA3+7u +byw== X-Received: by 10.181.12.9 with SMTP id em9mr6540864wid.37.1391944144120; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 03:09:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.77.226 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Feb 2014 03:08:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <87bnyhm60k.fsf@moondust.localdomain> From: Lennart Borgman Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 12:08:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5753: something, something, org-mode, shift-select, something To: "N. Jackson" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c7b8841f26304f1f74025 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5753 Cc: 5753 <5753@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --f46d043c7b8841f26304f1f74025 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Lennart Borgman wrote: > On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 2:25 AM, N. Jackson wrote: > >> The following message is a courtesy copy of an article >> that has been posted to gnu.emacs.bug as well. >> >> Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> >> > Lennart Borgman writes: >> > >> >> Shift-select in cua-mode does not work in org-mode although >> >> org-replace-disputed-keys is t, org-disputed-keys are set for shift >> >> arrow keys and org-support-shift-select is always >> > >> > Is this problem still present in Emacs 24.3? >> >> Naturally I can't answer for the OP (and I don't know about disputed >> keys) but I can report that in general this problem persists in Emacs >> 24.3. >> >> Thanks Jason. I can't test now myself. > > I think this problem illustrates very well why cua-mode must be made a > first class citizen in Emacs. Without that problems like this are showing > up for beginners. > > Oh, sorry. I mean Jackson, of course. --f46d043c7b8841f26304f1f74025 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On S= un, Feb 9, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> wro= te:
=
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 2:= 25 AM, N. Jackson <gentleundercurrent@gmail.com> wrote:
The following message is a courtesy copy of = an article
that has been posted to gnu.emacs.bug as well.

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Lennart Borgman <lennart.borg= man@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Shift-select in cua-mode does not work in org-mode although
>> org-replace-disputed-keys is t, org-disputed-keys are set for shif= t
>> arrow keys and org-support-shift-select is always
>
> Is this problem still present in Emacs 24.3?

Naturally I can't answer for the OP (and I don't know about dispute= d
keys) but I can report that in general this problem persists in Emacs
24.3.

Thanks Jason. I can't test n= ow myself.

I think this problem illustrates very well why cua-mode m= ust be made a first class citizen in Emacs. Without that problems like this= are showing up for beginners.=C2=A0

=C2=A0
Oh, sorry. I mean= Jackson, of course.
--f46d043c7b8841f26304f1f74025-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 09 09:06:58 2014 Received: (at 5753) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2014 14:06:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59426 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCV26-0000Vj-LL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 09:06:58 -0500 Received: from rs249.mailgun.us ([209.61.151.249]:34044) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCV20-0000VY-Ax for 5753@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 09:06:52 -0500 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; v=1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kickhub.com; q=dns/txt; s=mailo; t=1391954807; h=From: To: Cc: Subject: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Message-Id: Mime-Version: Content-Type: Sender; bh=ipVdeWAJeuBPcIZrZJNyvhSsssBOs9//5Ir+FAS0F/c=; b=psdpIvRWvpSevCcZNX0XY8X2Hx/ksyABRhtaz0P3ANc3yqOPPTekuWTyPMCspI/EOuF47jtM sPK04DXyu1K+vYI3yO9K/XfMsxjuT+5cbE39ElETtRJfyYpN+Xu2YS1LriJgEBnJsJS0TcSB 070RqMUI5+i2rke5JoydNgv4myk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=kickhub.com; s=mailo; q=dns; h=From: To: Cc: Subject: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Message-Id: Mime-Version: Content-Type: Sender; b=SHCApXh7vpZMK9u2lOVUxmKFaClvzBnojEmzP8ZGAnNTak5AqldOUqgeeeSM38YKSGvqBv 0qMrIi8BLVFaUMs2hkouxbmROuVf0JWINgf3OEKgg4jhUJgVcDOS50YKIi9Hx4CRLIdfm7sw m7hJDVSrY3ju4BFPO5vAniiT7Xo5g= Received: from bzg.localdomain (mar75-2-81-56-68-112.fbx.proxad.net [81.56.68.112]) by mxa.mailgun.org with ESMTP id 52f78b60.6dadbc8-in3; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 14:06:24 -0000 (UTC) Received: by bzg.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5BE3D1C20645; Sun, 9 Feb 2014 15:06:21 +0100 (CET) From: Bastien To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#5753: something, something, org-mode, shift-select, something In-Reply-To: <87d2j5avwl.fsf@building.gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 02 Feb 2014 16:21:14 -0800") References: <87d2j5avwl.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 15:06:21 +0100 Message-Id: <878utkgz36.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailgun-Sid: WyI5ZGIxYyIsICI1NzUzQGRlYmJ1Z3MuZ251Lm9yZyIsICIxNjQ4OCJd X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5753 Cc: 5753@debbugs.gnu.org, Lennart Borgman X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Lennart Borgman writes: > >> Shift-select in cua-mode does not work in org-mode although >> org-replace-disputed-keys is t, org-disputed-keys are set for shift >> arrow keys and org-support-shift-select is always > > Is this problem still present in Emacs 24.3? With Emacs from trunk: ~$ emacs RET C-x C-f test.org RET M-x cua-mode RET M-: (setq org-support-shift-select t) RET M-: (insert "blahblah") RET C-a S- will select correctly here. ~$ emacs RET M-: (setq org-support-shift-select t) RET M-: (setq org-replace-disputed-keys t) RET M-: (insert "* A headline") RET C-a S- will also select correctly instead of switching the TODO keyword. So I'm not really sure what is the bug here. Lennart, can you be more specific? Thanks! -- Bastien From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 09 09:13:46 2014 Received: (at 5753) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2014 14:13:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59439 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCV8h-0000gf-0A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 09:13:46 -0500 Received: from mail-we0-f173.google.com ([74.125.82.173]:34837) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCV8b-0000gM-G3 for 5753@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 09:13:41 -0500 Received: by mail-we0-f173.google.com with SMTP id x55so3480992wes.4 for <5753@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 06:13:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=a+GEhxOhPUIQZXkwe1SAUbqImtRZcmoZajOOQMMfues=; b=LGWmKDSSo0BbXow96/nge3WhpJZVFFgB5TvuhXckan5qTE0j8nKVrKp6ejn0rU+7Ys EpQ4uAQTrUQm9AactD39SqWrw2i4ldkiP+VHeGVJqOhPtYUp7nNpm/bHnPKqBvqZjo2S WHEZoc60evUZRDos8KciqNI4sCFWYy5gIMmR2nfxY5xs9LTdzFiL6gYKPPRlptXkVt18 UqQjGAIg8wTY+S+l2H/g13ky6lcJBz7+0s0NR/k3lb4lKomU/RVidgg/iRjqULw1FIcA oibzhOqDJg8UFwDR50dfhoYICE4Awsvp1laU1onITMWE/OfLkbiRW3es03cD/Td+MDs2 ebNA== X-Received: by 10.194.81.196 with SMTP id c4mr37073wjy.57.1391955216602; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 06:13:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.77.226 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Feb 2014 06:12:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <878utkgz36.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <87d2j5avwl.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878utkgz36.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> From: Lennart Borgman Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 15:12:56 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5753: something, something, org-mode, shift-select, something To: Bastien Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bb040223a9d9e04f1f9d46f X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5753 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 5753@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --047d7bb040223a9d9e04f1f9d46f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Bastien wrote: > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > > > Lennart Borgman writes: > > > >> Shift-select in cua-mode does not work in org-mode although > >> org-replace-disputed-keys is t, org-disputed-keys are set for shift > >> arrow keys and org-support-shift-select is always > > > > Is this problem still present in Emacs 24.3? > > With Emacs from trunk: > > ~$ emacs RET > C-x C-f test.org RET > M-x cua-mode RET > M-: (setq org-support-shift-select t) RET > M-: (insert "blahblah") RET > C-a > S- > > will select correctly here. > > ~$ emacs RET > M-: (setq org-support-shift-select t) RET > M-: (setq org-replace-disputed-keys t) RET > M-: (insert "* A headline") RET > C-a > S- > > will also select correctly instead of switching the TODO keyword. > > So I'm not really sure what is the bug here. Lennart, can you > be more specific? > > Thanks! > > It would be very nice if the bug was gone, but please ask Jackson! --047d7bb040223a9d9e04f1f9d46f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On S= un, Feb 9, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Bastien <bzg@gn= u.org> wrote:
With Emacs from trunk:

~$ emacs RET
C-x C-f
test.org RET
M-x cua-mode RET
M-: (setq org-support-shift-select t) RET
M-: (insert "blahblah") RET
C-a
S-<right>

will select correctly here.

~$ emacs RET
M-: (setq org-support-shift-select t) RET
M-: (setq org-replace-disputed-keys t) RET
M-: (insert "* A headline") RET
C-a
S-<right>

will also select correctly instead of switching the TODO keyword.

So I'm not really sure what is the bug here. =C2=A0Lennart, can you
be more specific?

Thanks!

It would be very nice if the bug was gone,= but please ask Jackson!=C2=A0

--047d7bb040223a9d9e04f1f9d46f-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 09 09:30:01 2014 Received: (at 5753) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2014 14:30:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59490 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCVOS-00016b-Ct for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 09:30:00 -0500 Received: from rs249.mailgun.us ([209.61.151.249]:57783) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCVON-00016P-6R for 5753@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 09:29:56 -0500 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; v=1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kickhub.com; q=dns/txt; s=mailo; t=1391956194; h=From: To: Cc: Subject: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Message-Id: Mime-Version: Content-Type: Sender; bh=SZQU8/PHX+4q2FR/nq2olKOz//Y7OMSLfx6MZQDpRWI=; b=kRVotvH0bns02azVwwzFZzh7Q2+Mqlh01Th4gLXUcF9bSmljilno6N5zf3xkAaSv2z+rI6oL lf371VJLY76yRaPfUf+9yQxIBuGQie05YRE/j8dmkx9weQS83gLliiUZxmld5S+xYCFmXEus 1E86vjdXZBVDHGiFy05TOobpIto= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=kickhub.com; s=mailo; q=dns; h=From: To: Cc: Subject: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Message-Id: Mime-Version: Content-Type: Sender; b=LTXHSk21wiUrwMzXfTPC8kUYajGq2ruuBw706rPnuaSdzsIEsY7x+PryvztjHB/UPkd3YO Wm9IKDXqWCzjBXK9fKE5LZ9Pgj8WW2dsFGD77sMvGEfU1xNggVw9b9ssTTRlh4HDyuEhKUAQ pR+pfa2S/SWxmbC20SVZvokJSbzOE= Received: from bzg.localdomain (mar75-2-81-56-68-112.fbx.proxad.net [81.56.68.112]) by mxa.mailgun.org with ESMTP id 52f790d9.7e58b58-in3; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 14:29:45 -0000 (UTC) Received: by bzg.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B63981C20645; Sun, 9 Feb 2014 15:29:41 +0100 (CET) From: Bastien To: Lennart Borgman Subject: Re: bug#5753: something, something, org-mode, shift-select, something In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Sun, 9 Feb 2014 15:12:56 +0100") References: <87d2j5avwl.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878utkgz36.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 15:29:41 +0100 Message-Id: <87wqh4fjfu.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailgun-Sid: WyI5ZGIxYyIsICI1NzUzQGRlYmJ1Z3MuZ251Lm9yZyIsICIxNjQ4OCJd X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5753 Cc: "N. Jackson" , Lars Ingebrigtsen , 5753@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Hi Jackson, can you tell me what exactly the bug is wrt cua-mode and org-mode? See my previous recipes in this thread for references. If the bug is here for Emacs 24.3, can you try downloading and installing the latest Org stable version (http://orgmode.org) and see if the bug is still there? Thanks in advance for your help, -- Bastien From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 09 16:45:58 2014 Received: (at 5753) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2014 21:45:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60887 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCcCL-00045n-Mg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 16:45:58 -0500 Received: from mail-qc0-f177.google.com ([209.85.216.177]:61278) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCcCH-00045b-5E for 5753@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 16:45:53 -0500 Received: by mail-qc0-f177.google.com with SMTP id i8so9285995qcq.36 for <5753@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 13:45:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=NZ46vaGC7q9ZWBaZl0nB8xhQpLDRjrEc8//yflkl4eI=; b=TFOwUBRoiHnedaWpReZTyk3Ejz2HnAbQXVJdSoGQOAPIxlQOng4is9cGyN3xBMdvN/ xcrNZzmFBy4+mXa/oyPUAGTWCvBMugQYMq/kfb5srNALSOX2K/in1JQmEusBOW4Q/52i U4swEnyfadg3Nl8O1wK3y4JgcivZfKrUmC9VMz5KQaPG597U3R3CeO55Zn7N5QNdqb6Z L2eMqEeUhjjNdfAOwv8plfLkUOui/3MhaOrUeq+Eb8Gq/j0pbdYHJGREyBgDpx73JcTs FiUixWIyvomhM3G7NfXiB0z7OzeEQSS39f0TRguRHMEp+xMVnlK76N3cbCpE4q0eCPtZ VSEw== X-Received: by 10.224.40.130 with SMTP id k2mr41927285qae.91.1391982352420; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 13:45:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from moondust.localdomain.nodomain.none (T8775.WPA.Dal.Ca. [134.190.135.117]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id u4sm36450568qai.21.2014.02.09.13.45.51 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 09 Feb 2014 13:45:51 -0800 (PST) From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) To: Bastien Subject: Re: bug#5753: something, something, org-mode, shift-select, something References: <87d2j5avwl.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878utkgz36.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87wqh4fjfu.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 17:45:50 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87wqh4fjfu.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (Bastien's message of "Sun, 09 Feb 2014 15:29:41 +0100") Message-ID: <87ppmwx8mp.fsf@moondust.localdomain> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5753 Cc: "N. Jackson" , Lars Ingebrigtsen , Lennart Borgman , 5753@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) Bastien writes: > can you tell me what exactly the bug is wrt cua-mode and org-mode? Hi Bastien, Well, I can tell you the symptoms; I'm sorry to report that I know nothing of the internals. I have this snippet of code in my configuration files and with it everything works fine and has been working fine for a few years: ;; This snippet from jisang-yoo on reddit to enable shift select in ;; org mode when cua-mode is on. (eval-after-load "org" '(progn (eval-after-load "cua-base" '(progn (defadvice org-call-for-shift-select (before org-call-for-shift-select-cua activate) (if (and cua-mode org-support-shift-select (not (use-region-p))) (cua-set-mark))))))) ;; End jisang-yoo snippet If I comment out that snippet and restart Emacs, then shift selection no longer works in org-mode unless I turn off cua-mode. When I say shift selection doesn't work, I mean that when I hold down the shift key and move the cursor with the arrow keys I don't get any highlighting of the text I'm trying to select. And it's not just a failure to highlight the selection, there seems to be no selection happening because a cut or copy of the imaginary selection doesn't do anything. If I toggle off cua-mode (from the menu for example), then shift selection immediately starts working in org-mode. If I leave cua-mode tuned on and M-x fundamental-mode, then shift selection immediately starts working in the buffer with org file. That is to say, the symptoms are simple and 100% reproducible. > If the bug is here for Emacs 24.3, can you try downloading and > installing the latest Org stable version (http://orgmode.org) and see > if the bug is still there? I am currently using Org-mode version 8.2.5h-6-g8e1386-elpa of 2014-02-03 on GNU Emacs 24.3.1. If you need me to try a newer version of Org, I can do so, although I do prefer to use the version from Elpa as it seems it would be easier to uninstall it if it breaks my Emacs. > Thanks in advance for your help, You're welcome. Please let me know if you need me to install the latest Org stable version or do any specific testing. N. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 10 02:35:46 2014 Received: (at 5753) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 07:35:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33886 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WClP7-0003Sv-JP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 02:35:46 -0500 Received: from rs249.mailgun.us ([209.61.151.249]:41531) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WClP4-0003Sm-Ce for 5753@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 02:35:43 -0500 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; v=1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kickhub.com; q=dns/txt; s=mailo; t=1392017741; h=From: To: Cc: Subject: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Message-Id: Mime-Version: Content-Type: Sender; bh=v58UbB08fEMtsVeZbr1jFfHospRvwk3cwbbhAxnhgEI=; b=a/rrJZ1y2Taq39JxUsJR4EVwKIl5pMs5mi7JJKDwooemITx+xt11awmEophVYAm8aMPJN8EN cWX4JaFVFdvPbQlkY50iBitdT2bWcdGd3kAOLKIBlmtnOvUf1Hygf0P+Yw9raljBVIEyYorI xsIJFEkY2TvQ9heubmwTrpdaewE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=kickhub.com; s=mailo; q=dns; h=From: To: Cc: Subject: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Message-Id: Mime-Version: Content-Type: Sender; b=a0NHSMue4m9La1fMCHfz3CwPuIrOYKtB1ll2F0rJTtWCxAky7kbdJrBb83Uch9fwEkvQja wG45vMk+SkUFd2zCVmqapQuAjbJHR2v6Dvb7JDuxvx01nHReOyEGMHVgxn1Yy4n61mt48n8I 0U7iyjBSBndPMaGFhRVEsV7KDLzTc= Received: from bzg.localdomain (mar75-2-81-56-68-112.fbx.proxad.net [81.56.68.112]) by mxa.mailgun.org with ESMTP id 52f8814d.7400420-in2; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 07:35:41 -0000 (UTC) Received: by bzg.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 70E621C20645; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:35:33 +0100 (CET) From: Bastien To: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) Subject: Re: bug#5753: something, something, org-mode, shift-select, something In-Reply-To: <87ppmwx8mp.fsf@moondust.localdomain> (N. Jackson's message of "Sun, 09 Feb 2014 17:45:50 -0400") References: <87d2j5avwl.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878utkgz36.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87wqh4fjfu.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87ppmwx8mp.fsf@moondust.localdomain> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:35:33 +0100 Message-Id: <877g938loa.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailgun-Sid: WyI5ZGIxYyIsICI1NzUzQGRlYmJ1Z3MuZ251Lm9yZyIsICIxNjQ4OCJd X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5753 Cc: "N. Jackson" , Lars Ingebrigtsen , Lennart Borgman , 5753@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Hi Jackson, thanks for your thorough reply. Can you try the two recipes I gave here: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=5753#26 and tell me where it does not produce the expected output? Thanks in advance, -- Bastien From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 10 16:30:11 2014 Received: (at 5753) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 21:30:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41903 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCyQc-0006vb-PK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 16:30:11 -0500 Received: from mail-qc0-f176.google.com ([209.85.216.176]:47312) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCyQW-0006oA-C4 for 5753@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 16:30:06 -0500 Received: by mail-qc0-f176.google.com with SMTP id e16so11479032qcx.21 for <5753@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=L1xTnMusPwfnLbE0a+K8sR+5VS30PB5yeMjtLGdXmCc=; b=eXjpizox8uktGhvoI2IvvkUpnmjFaUjiyFssLfyFVeQ0Xif97hLM/K9uDTzgL+oYcU ocQT9Z1IO/ry/Jx/nsStk1XEBJQ5xh39Pl351rP0StjOWdsd2SN2j2fJHeaiEf3sbaqL A3aSEnUfIzO/0DUAivg6tLZYgPyBtZCsywTXg0xG0sN6N6mmCTn7Gtb87p2AHU4ALj2m bgiVyHMWLMeIK8jegjL73/TpUSzaFHUr3rx3slF4JYahbeh44wRagWH6h2Hczy6JD91H gCcy3J6HUDuxywqTg0y1o/T6zK7Y4unRC9Mg/lBMP+iKu7dCakptKVQ9OAIzU2z6sHdF 1Z+g== X-Received: by 10.140.38.75 with SMTP id s69mr37595244qgs.62.1392067798790; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from moondust.localdomain.nodomain.none (T8775.WPA.Dal.Ca. [134.190.135.117]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id k32sm25610261qgf.18.2014.02.10.13.29.56 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:58 -0800 (PST) From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) To: Bastien Subject: Re: bug#5753: something, something, org-mode, shift-select, something References: <87d2j5avwl.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878utkgz36.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87wqh4fjfu.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87ppmwx8mp.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <877g938loa.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:29:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: <877g938loa.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (Bastien's message of "Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:35:33 +0100") Message-ID: <87mwhy4pws.fsf@moondust.localdomain> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5753 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Lennart Borgman , 5753@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) Bastien writes: > Can you try the two recipes I gave here: > http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=5753#26 Wherein Bastien gnu.org> writes: >> With Emacs from trunk: Ah, that sounds like the start of a new adventure... ... which went _far_ more smoothly than I expected! I am now testing with GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 Repository revision: 116400 and Org-mode version 8.2.5c. >> ~$ emacs RET >> C-x C-f test.org RET >> M-x cua-mode RET >> M-: (setq org-support-shift-select t) RET >> M-: (insert "blahblah") RET C-a >> S- >> >> will select correctly here. >> >> ~$ emacs RET >> M-: (setq org-support-shift-select t) RET >> M-: (setq org-replace-disputed-keys t) RET >> M-: (insert "* A headline") RET >> C-a >> S- >> >> will also select correctly instead of switching the TODO keyword. > and tell me where it does not produce the expected output? The first recipe is ambiguous because M-x cua-mode RET toggles the on/off or off/on state of cua-mode, so it depends on how it is set in one's configuration files. In any case, with both recipes, Org behaves correctly in 24.3.50.1. The first recipe fails in 24.3.1 when cua-mode is not enabled in one's configuration files (i.e. when you turn it on at the beginning of the recipe). Here's a simpler recipe: emacs -Q M-: (org-support-shift-select t) RET M-x cua-mode RET ; Turn _on_ cua mode C-x C-f new-test.org RET a S- ; Expected: "a" is selected / highlighted C-x ; Expected: "a" is removed to the clipboard In Emacs 24.3.1 (as, I believe, in Emacs 23), the S- just moves the cursor, no selection is highlighted, and the C-x fails to remove the "a" to the clipboard. This defect is fixed in Emacs 24.3.50.1. :) As far as shift selection over headlines, todos, and datestamps is concerned, in general, shift selection behaviour in Emacs 24.3.50.1 (unlike in Emacs 24.3.1) now seems to behave as it is described in the doc string: C-h v org-support-shift-select RET as follows: org-support-shift-select is a variable defined in `org.el'. Its value is always Original value was nil Documentation: Non-nil means make shift-cursor commands select text when possible. In Emacs 23, when `shift-select-mode' is on, shifted cursor keys start selecting a region, or enlarge regions started in this way. In Org-mode, in special contexts, these same keys are used for other purposes, important enough to compete with shift selection. Org tries to balance these needs by supporting `shift-select-mode' outside these special contexts, under control of this variable. The default of this variable is nil, to avoid confusing behavior. Shifted cursor keys will then execute Org commands in the following contexts: - on a headline, changing TODO state (left/right) and priority - (up/down) on a time stamp, changing the time in a plain list item, - changing the bullet type in a property definition line, switching - between allowed values in the BEGIN line of a clock table - (changing the time block). Outside these contexts, the commands will throw an error. When this variable is t and the cursor is not in a special context, Org-mode will support shift-selection for making and enlarging regions. To make this more effective, the bullet cycling will no longer happen anywhere in an item line, but only if the cursor is exactly on the bullet. If you set this variable to the symbol `always', then the keys will not be special in headlines, property lines, and item lines, to make shift selection work there as well. If this is what you want, you can use the following alternative commands: `C-c C-t' and `C-c ,' to change TODO state and priority, `C-u C-u C-c C-t' can be used to switch TODO sets, `C-c -' to cycle item bullet types, and properties can be edited by hand or in column view. However, when the cursor is on a timestamp, shift-cursor commands will still edit the time stamp - this is just too good to give up. XEmacs user should have this variable set to nil, because `shift-select-mode' is in Emacs 23 or later only. You can customize this variable. This is very very helpful stuff, clearly presented, and I feel it ought to be in the info manual as well. [The only part that I don't see working properly is the changing of bullet types. As far as I can tell, this doesn't happen -- but it's not something I've ever tried to do and maybe I'm not using it right.] I just did a cursory look at the effect of org-replace-disputed-keys, because I don't use this. Was an issue with this reported in the original bug? If so, I can test it more thoroughly. I hope the above report is of some use. Regards, N. 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[142.176.57.239]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g68sm26713403qge.7.2014.02.10.18.22.29 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:22:29 -0800 (PST) From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#5753: something, something, org-mode, shift-select, something References: <87d2j5avwl.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878utkgz36.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87wqh4fjfu.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87ppmwx8mp.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <877g938loa.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87mwhy4pws.fsf@moondust.localdomain> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 22:22:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87mwhy4pws.fsf@moondust.localdomain> (N. Jackson's message of "Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:29:55 -0400") Message-ID: <877g92crrv.fsf@moondust.localdomain> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). 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X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: 5753@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) This post is for the sake of completeness, and to summarise / add to my previous posts on this bug, namely: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=5753#17 http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=5753#35 http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=5753#41 In GNU Emacs 23.3.1 [1] and 24.3 [2], either of the settings (setq org-support-shift-select t) or (setq org-support-shift-select (quote always)) will enable shift selection in org-mode, as described in C-h v org-support-shift-select RET _only if_ cua-mode is turned off. But if cua-made is turned on, shift selection fails everywhere in org mode -- no selection gets made. Adding the following workaround fixes the problem: ;; This snippet from jisang-yoo on reddit to enable shift select in org ;; mode when cua-mode is on. (eval-after-load "org" '(progn (eval-after-load "cua-base" '(progn (defadvice org-call-for-shift-select (before org-call-for-shift-select-cua activate) (if (and cua-mode org-support-shift-select (not (use-region-p))) (cua-set-mark))))))) ;; End jisang-yoo snippet In GNU Emacs GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 [3] org-support-shift-select works essentially as documented, and the workaround is not required. :) --- [1] GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2011-03-10 on Windows XP (5.1.2600) with Org-mode version 7.9.2 (7.9.2-48-gb7c5cf-elpa) of 2012-10-15. [2] GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.8.2) of 2013-08-14 on Fedora 19 with Org-mode version 8.2.5h (8.2.5h-6-g8e1386-elpa) of 2014-02-03. [3] GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (Repository revision: 116400) of 2014-02-10 on Fedora 19 and Org-mode version 8.2.5c (release_8.2.5c) of unknown date. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 11 11:30:04 2014 Received: (at 5753) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2014 16:30:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47632 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDGDh-0006Uo-LD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:30:02 -0500 Received: from rs249.mailgun.us ([209.61.151.249]:36950) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDGDd-0006UU-K9 for 5753@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:29:58 -0500 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; v=1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kickhub.com; q=dns/txt; s=mailo; t=1392136191; h=From: To: Cc: Subject: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Message-Id: Mime-Version: Content-Type: Sender; bh=lpfSEikfkygHDB/jstmtfYmenEX9rUngk59EjT3D1/U=; b=lZMRlogElAcBClmDc5L85rRk4bHteEC2cO3bvZoi+ayPIHbcl+rZXZGKJTJMYW/tky4RPEiW bw3KJ3MNPnAXYHk5gomvd1ObFR+sma8Y/3uxGesYNni2bCsizOnXdsiocebgAYFM4gjcbCqY bDvlGeGHlgeacLMNHmnuhqA2P9Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=kickhub.com; s=mailo; q=dns; h=From: To: Cc: Subject: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Message-Id: Mime-Version: Content-Type: Sender; b=TO1fxT57XZaATUJyhc6Jv2jt4+QdD/g45IPyJfo4dVExsaaPk2rCLzILLXUBtIvz+As2Wt nZJKas+OWIkn9YXXrJOlJc8Y2MhmD5K116PAWfWBcgv59by2+t8kBuPbODpPqFxqiu9VEBam Ej/BSgXj0rhXWBDH1LvV2W9ikRyRI= Received: from bzg.localdomain (AMontsouris-651-1-211-196.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr [92.140.2.196]) by mxa.mailgun.org with ESMTP id 52fa4fef.7f88c1a0c650-in1; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:29:35 -0000 (UTC) Received: by bzg.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E6B301C2185B; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:29:33 +0100 (CET) From: Bastien To: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) Subject: Re: bug#5753: something, something, org-mode, shift-select, something In-Reply-To: <87mwhy4pws.fsf@moondust.localdomain> (N. Jackson's message of "Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:29:55 -0400") References: <87d2j5avwl.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878utkgz36.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87wqh4fjfu.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87ppmwx8mp.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <877g938loa.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87mwhy4pws.fsf@moondust.localdomain> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:29:33 +0100 Message-Id: <874n45vcia.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailgun-Sid: WyI5ZGIxYyIsICI1NzUzQGRlYmJ1Z3MuZ251Lm9yZyIsICIxNjQ4OCJd X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5753 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Lennart Borgman , 5753@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) writes: > Ah, that sounds like the start of a new adventure... > > ... which went _far_ more smoothly than I expected! I am now testing > with GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 Repository revision: 116400 and Org-mode > version 8.2.5c. Yes, sorry, I meant "emacs -Q" in my recipes. I can't reproduce the bug with GNU Emacs 24.3.50.6, so it has probably been fixed between 24.3.50.1 and 24.3.50.6. I'll close it when you have a chance to build Emacs from current trunk. Thanks again for the detailed reports! -- Bastien From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 11 12:12:34 2014 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2014 17:12:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47715 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDGsr-0000YX-Lh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 12:12:34 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49372) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDGsp-0000YG-Kt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 12:12:32 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDGsf-0002UE-FN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 12:12:26 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:51295) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDGsf-0002UA-9L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 12:12:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51050) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDGsa-00033i-Ae for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 12:12:21 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDGsV-0002QI-CD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 12:12:16 -0500 Received: from mail-qa0-x22b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22b]:47872) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDGsM-0002MW-Mj; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 12:12:02 -0500 Received: by mail-qa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id o15so12258893qap.30 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 09:12:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=a5pFw56Unhz20ouh92QJfmSNw6TxgEhrWOSfQ+1FyOs=; b=F9tapUFwD4Qd2d2yEi4E1I/xKC9aJUlK55GiZ7GeujY2tODUVsGhGCYeHLHgEG5kbL mQly4acD/okFIvXTvtlijATJsSyHjgKPmVUgJi2TI+AqfXGzKUAleoBVsz+ozNleK14J mf5mnv5/1//u+0F1qoK6F73JE8w5KTtYCxPqREZKExBi7qvNx0srv3lw8ZgQeK6Uz04F CDO5Ahx3hPzwlW5Xw5y/SJuJz/gzE6Ra6a/LhUZbMa8IhOAI2+Dx9CrHeeC+eUX1bv9g Baxh0Jeu2MUjQzle1TOWGkGycXhAwafFQbzel3VO3bDam8CjUxUxgUgSnd/kDXjG3kdG 2y+A== X-Received: by 10.224.12.82 with SMTP id w18mr59464693qaw.28.1392138722228; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 09:12:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from moondust.localdomain.nodomain.none (T861C.WPA.Dal.Ca. [134.190.134.28]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id t5sm35732324qat.6.2014.02.11.09.12.00 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 11 Feb 2014 09:12:01 -0800 (PST) From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#5753: something, something, org-mode, shift-select, something References: <87d2j5avwl.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878utkgz36.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87wqh4fjfu.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87ppmwx8mp.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <877g938loa.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87mwhy4pws.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <874n45vcia.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:12:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: <874n45vcia.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (Bastien's message of "Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:29:33 +0100") Message-ID: <8738jpa80v.fsf@moondust.localdomain> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: Bastien , Lars Ingebrigtsen , Lennart Borgman , 5753@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) Bastien writes: > nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) writes: > >> Ah, that sounds like the start of a new adventure... >> >> ... which went _far_ more smoothly than I expected! I am now testing >> with GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 Repository revision: 116400 and Org-mode >> version 8.2.5c. > > Yes, sorry, I meant "emacs -Q" in my recipes. > > I can't reproduce the bug with GNU Emacs 24.3.50.6, so it has probably > been fixed between 24.3.50.1 and 24.3.50.6. Bastien, you misunderstood what I wrote (sorry). I _did_ build 24.3.50(.1) from the current (yesterday's) trunk from Bazaar. And, assuming the failure of shift selection in cua-mode _is_ the bug the OP was reporting (I was never clear about that), then the bug _is_ fixed using that build, as I wrote here: >> In any case, with both recipes, Org behaves correctly in 24.3.50.1. and here: >> emacs -Q >> M-: (org-support-shift-select t) RET >> M-x cua-mode RET ; Turn _on_ cua mode >> C-x C-f new-test.org RET >> a >> S- ; Expected: "a" is selected / highlighted >> C-x ; Expected: "a" is removed to the clipboard >> In Emacs 24.3.1 (as, I believe, in Emacs 23), the S- just moves >> the cursor, no selection is highlighted, and the C-x fails to remove >> the "a" to the clipboard. This defect is fixed in Emacs 24.3.50.1. :) ^^^^^^^^ > I'll close it when you have a chance to build Emacs from current > trunk. Lennart, I believe you were the original poster? Is the one above the bug you intended to report? (I was confused by the discussion of org-replace-disputed-keys, which doesn't seem to be a factor here.) And if so, do you want to test on 24.3.50, or are you satisfied that the bug is fixed? > Thanks again for the detailed reports! You're welcome, but clearly I need to improve my clarity! Thank you for being there to do something about them. Regards, N. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 11 12:20:33 2014 Received: (at 5753-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2014 17:20:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47728 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDH0Z-0000ng-4G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 12:20:31 -0500 Received: from rs249.mailgun.us ([209.61.151.249]:54035) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDH0W-0000nN-E7 for 5753-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 12:20:29 -0500 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; v=1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kickhub.com; q=dns/txt; s=mailo; t=1392139222; h=From: To: Cc: Subject: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Message-Id: Mime-Version: Content-Type: Sender; bh=fDUpBfXBa9EkKv1ejEjCf6H/oNXvqJ2Cr9ZNXYlMUzw=; b=XACUNtRhuhPcaZaUyjuWSIF0FFfO+XVL8Ozcu/PdwFMaftj7XnN1ZJQY9F+025doZqgzCOvO uiOTO1Vn+ByERupUhrs224SlBzeVHeNX/AsQX92RWk42WZSiKOpp7i6tMuVuZgvs9kjBUG6h s49RPoj7IO7GLHf6p/WsS3FFh6Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=kickhub.com; s=mailo; q=dns; h=From: To: Cc: Subject: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Message-Id: Mime-Version: Content-Type: Sender; b=Hr4ByWngNU1dpmxH6WOEg39IS00N3qKLuYa0oAMrbvhkUrQmUK8F4Hh7JqpPb/T4QnFqCM yS5SXWyMZvgpiMluW/a10TMooeleCQYHAb2RQVQHPWVxrScXb8Y9k4zc5EVLUUnx1UEOHrKP aQ2xJl2fGmOy9a5DBNetuoJMnhxGg= Received: from bzg.localdomain (AMontsouris-651-1-211-196.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr [92.140.2.196]) by mxa.mailgun.org with ESMTP id 52fa5bd4.7ff420463848-in3; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:20:20 -0000 (UTC) Received: by bzg.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4BC461C2185B; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 18:20:18 +0100 (CET) From: Bastien To: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) Subject: Re: bug#5753: something, something, org-mode, shift-select, something In-Reply-To: <8738jpa80v.fsf@moondust.localdomain> (N. Jackson's message of "Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:12:00 -0400") References: <87d2j5avwl.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878utkgz36.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87wqh4fjfu.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87ppmwx8mp.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <877g938loa.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87mwhy4pws.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <874n45vcia.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <8738jpa80v.fsf@moondust.localdomain> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 18:20:18 +0100 Message-Id: <87d2itr2gd.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailgun-Sid: WyJhYjdkMSIsICI1NzUzLWRvbmVAZGViYnVncy5nbnUub3JnIiwgIjE2NDg4Il0= X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5753-done Cc: larsi@gnus.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, 5753-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) writes: > Bastien, you misunderstood what I wrote (sorry). > > I _did_ build 24.3.50(.1) from the current (yesterday's) trunk from > Bazaar. I was confused because my Emacs version is 24.3.50.6 so I thought you had an much older one... > And, assuming the failure of shift selection in cua-mode _is_ the bug > the OP was reporting (I was never clear about that), then the bug _is_ > fixed using that build Good, closing it now. > You're welcome, but clearly I need to improve my clarity! Well, I'm not a native english speaker and I sometimes read too hastily, no problem! -- Bastien From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 11 16:02:38 2014 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2014 21:02:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47898 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDKTV-0000zr-T8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:02:38 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34742) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDKTU-0000ze-9C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:02:36 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDKTK-0005SL-G2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:02:31 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,FREEMAIL_FROM, FREEMAIL_REPLY,HTML_MESSAGE,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:43852) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDKTK-0005SG-DE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:02:26 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36419) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDKTG-00081o-0t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:02:26 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDKTE-0005RP-Uj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:02:21 -0500 Received: from mail-wi0-x22a.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a]:43978) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDKTE-0005RA-KY; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:02:20 -0500 Received: by mail-wi0-f170.google.com with SMTP id hi5so295853wib.5 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:02:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=6hbKdBLG2ONgrsNCH9o8u5qjg1IAkEWJezmLeQBbjL8=; b=L2mGVBDUIqpFtC74IWrJriTLLirZPls3D2ewSGxVJAFPMVBmAN+nDfkbSR5YDEce6/ wGchMtlWXDs2ZZVT4aJugtCz9EzmO/V2k5aLyodVG5uC3efdF6nnwaO0/4zM7oieNOM5 S+h7TC88rbr8fx4SgfMRord38gQpXYjqT5DllfBYdE/8Mu/BogVYTxkijwjwBLjjtlkV CPKXC8/jaiIjRljg4GZUMy8Qns1xzbulVYysCz6XNjfoOxlS1F0umK4K8909sJZfCeti C19XV4wvNdy9v30O/oYbZXjOBLiSKE9Yqow49G0aF4BxL4zquGJ0Q512lfIKmtPZZvE/ 8N1A== X-Received: by 10.180.100.72 with SMTP id ew8mr180875wib.16.1392152538779; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:02:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.109.69 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:01:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8738jpa80v.fsf@moondust.localdomain> References: <87d2j5avwl.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878utkgz36.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87wqh4fjfu.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87ppmwx8mp.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <877g938loa.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87mwhy4pws.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <874n45vcia.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <8738jpa80v.fsf@moondust.localdomain> From: Lennart Borgman Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 22:01:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5753: something, something, org-mode, shift-select, something To: "N. Jackson" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044287fe8c431804f227c549 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: Bastien , Emacs Bugs , 5753 <5753@debbugs.gnu.org>, Lars Ingebrigtsen X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) --f46d044287fe8c431804f227c549 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 6:12 PM, N. Jackson wrote: > Bastien writes: > > > nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) writes: > > > >> In Emacs 24.3.1 (as, I believe, in Emacs 23), the S- just moves > >> the cursor, no selection is highlighted, and the C-x fails to remove > >> the "a" to the clipboard. This defect is fixed in Emacs 24.3.50.1. :) > ^^^^^^^^ > > I'll close it when you have a chance to build Emacs from current > > trunk. > > Lennart, I believe you were the original poster? Is the one above the > bug you intended to report? (I was confused by the discussion of > org-replace-disputed-keys, which doesn't seem to be a factor here.) And > if so, do you want to test on 24.3.50, or are you satisfied that the bug > is fixed? > Thanks for notifying me, Jackwon. I believe it was that bug. (And if it was not it will float up again. ;-) ) --f46d044287fe8c431804f227c549 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On T= ue, Feb 11, 2014 at 6:12 PM, N. Jackson <nljlistbox2@gmail.com> wrote:
Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> wr= ites:

> nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) writes:
>=C2=A0
>> In Emacs 24.3.1 (as, I believe, in Emacs 23), the S-<left> = just moves
>> the cursor, no selection is highlighted, and the C-x fails to remo= ve
>> the "a" to the clipboard. This defect is fixed in Emacs = 24.3.50.1. :)
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> I'll close it when you have a chance to build Emac= s from current
> trunk.

Lennart, I believe you were the original poster? Is the one above the=
bug you intended to report? (I was confused by the discussion of
org-replace-disputed-keys, which doesn't seem to be a factor here.) And=
if so, do you want to test on 24.3.50, or are you satisfied that the bug is fixed?

Thanks for notifying me, Jackwon. I believe it was that bug. (And if it = was not it will float up again. ;-) )
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