From unknown Sun Jun 22 17:14:34 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#57505 <57505@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#57505 <57505@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 29.0.50; Is loading seq.el before using it necessary? Reply-To: bug#57505 <57505@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 00:14:34 +0000 retitle 57505 29.0.50; Is loading seq.el before using it necessary? reassign 57505 emacs submitter 57505 Arash Esbati severity 57505 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 31 10:05:06 2022 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2022 14:05:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40025 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oTOL4-0003ud-Cc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2022 10:05:06 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:34694) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oTOL1-0003uT-KT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2022 10:05:05 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43980) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oTOL1-00063Y-F1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2022 10:05:03 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34694) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oTOL1-00055A-5z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2022 10:05:03 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:Subject:To:From:in-reply-to: references; bh=aglBW6Pb77wIARXa3zEdbAwTjSJ6ReygrRrmfGGoD8c=; b=ohA2LMiCLZxD2x 3OdmS3w7uLFDM88bULuQNqQM5ur0k0HCkvqPKFm83SL3saA35AOmhHzefNxltpwe0E3SLn97XqESz lbGel0uK6wNf3v/7mSigoIsXGVkgcoNK0IYK80EiKjONNDUYy58DGap8dT+x69EP1kO/FsqLgsOQ8 lN9VFzbeprryd24C1oD4dZb11EcJh1zKgP+iifUxQUaau74m8zkC+TycaUb8C3DC0uDwu9KQdKwcQ LE/8m8s3ShgmclAWqQ+wZOpIo2YQawqZ7SIJYpcA/m6BitiK4iFpc/jdha7hMlJlUaP8WtshOrYhA gE6TN8llQ1pxSWoJNouA==; Received: from pd9fb77f7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.251.119.247]:60115 helo=MUTANT) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oTOL0-0007r5-5G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2022 10:05:02 -0400 From: Arash Esbati To: emacs-bugs Subject: 29.0.50; Is loading seq.el before using it necessary? Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 16:04:35 +0200 Message-ID: <86r10wcxvw.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi all, doc/lispref/sequences.texi says this starting in line 448: The @file{seq.el} library provides the following additional sequence manipulation macros and functions, prefixed with @code{seq-}. To use them, you must first load the @file{seq} library. Is the last sentence (still?) true? I'm not really familiar with Emacs' startup process, but seq.el seems to be preloaded, so require'ing it isn't necessary. Or am I missing something? Best, Arash From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 31 12:16:13 2022 Received: (at 57505-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2022 16:16:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40295 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oTQNx-000147-2D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2022 12:16:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38606) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oTQNs-00013q-Vn for 57505-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2022 12:16:12 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42760) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oTQNn-00089h-M6 for 57505-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2022 12:16:03 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=WSheXlOdyuGSvU7zf+YMwi6HpzochxQpxjDeCKINjnY=; b=WbACWpPwQzfL UzKc9m/2b8N9KbB9HtV55PAXM5r9JDwsl29MPY+gYg8uwUW+9RBOJCowwKCnW8CKPPMTvavM904s5 OhUmWYgNTrpe7uOPQXPwq0FBE/qYvx1/7QC/NiXi+weqBJABBqKolJzHjwg5WNrGf3zlNZu/w/ZEc dAV1ankfRsw8Qnnxmq9lLjBaFY/i2NA7a5DRurE6Nib2QZXVMSVLiR5PtSPcoQ4/r4jy6jWfuSe0H w+hnADihNliNCWSnwjCDyHtAPypNuAykcBZ4G2vnDER3oGCiDhGzNFG9Qa0A5Wg91ZT+43C4wPPji bEOfung27mr6XmNhL1hIhQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4751 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oTQNm-0007wR-Oa; Wed, 31 Aug 2022 12:16:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 19:16:28 +0300 Message-Id: <83o7w0s80z.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Arash Esbati In-Reply-To: <86r10wcxvw.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Arash Esbati on Wed, 31 Aug 2022 16:04:35 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#57505: 29.0.50; Is loading seq.el before using it necessary? References: <86r10wcxvw.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57505-done Cc: 57505-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Arash Esbati > Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 16:04:35 +0200 > > The @file{seq.el} library provides the following additional sequence > manipulation macros and functions, prefixed with @code{seq-}. To use > them, you must first load the @file{seq} library. > > Is the last sentence (still?) true? I'm not really familiar with Emacs' > startup process, but seq.el seems to be preloaded, so require'ing it > isn't necessary. Or am I missing something? Thanks, fixed. 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