From unknown Sun Jun 22 17:18:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#57505: 29.0.50; Is loading seq.el before using it necessary? Resent-From: Arash Esbati Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 14:06:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 57505 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 57505@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: emacs-bugs Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.166195470615047 (code B ref -1); Wed, 31 Aug 2022 14:06:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2022 14:05:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40025 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oTOL4-0003ud-Cc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2022 10:05:06 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:34694) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oTOL1-0003uT-KT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2022 10:05:05 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43980) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oTOL1-00063Y-F1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2022 10:05:03 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34694) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oTOL1-00055A-5z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2022 10:05:03 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:Subject:To:From:in-reply-to: references; bh=aglBW6Pb77wIARXa3zEdbAwTjSJ6ReygrRrmfGGoD8c=; b=ohA2LMiCLZxD2x 3OdmS3w7uLFDM88bULuQNqQM5ur0k0HCkvqPKFm83SL3saA35AOmhHzefNxltpwe0E3SLn97XqESz lbGel0uK6wNf3v/7mSigoIsXGVkgcoNK0IYK80EiKjONNDUYy58DGap8dT+x69EP1kO/FsqLgsOQ8 lN9VFzbeprryd24C1oD4dZb11EcJh1zKgP+iifUxQUaau74m8zkC+TycaUb8C3DC0uDwu9KQdKwcQ LE/8m8s3ShgmclAWqQ+wZOpIo2YQawqZ7SIJYpcA/m6BitiK4iFpc/jdha7hMlJlUaP8WtshOrYhA gE6TN8llQ1pxSWoJNouA==; Received: from pd9fb77f7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.251.119.247]:60115 helo=MUTANT) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oTOL0-0007r5-5G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2022 10:05:02 -0400 From: Arash Esbati Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 16:04:35 +0200 Message-ID: <86r10wcxvw.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi all, doc/lispref/sequences.texi says this starting in line 448: The @file{seq.el} library provides the following additional sequence manipulation macros and functions, prefixed with @code{seq-}. To use them, you must first load the @file{seq} library. Is the last sentence (still?) true? I'm not really familiar with Emacs' startup process, but seq.el seems to be preloaded, so require'ing it isn't necessary. Or am I missing something? Best, Arash From unknown Sun Jun 22 17:18:05 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Arash Esbati Subject: bug#57505: closed (Re: bug#57505: 29.0.50; Is loading seq.el before using it necessary?) Message-ID: References: <83o7w0s80z.fsf@gnu.org> <86r10wcxvw.fsf@gnu.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 57505 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 57505@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 16:17:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1661962622-4182-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1661962622-4182-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #57505: 29.0.50; Is loading seq.el before using it necessary? which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 57505@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 57505: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D57505 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1661962622-4182-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 57505-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2022 16:16:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40295 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oTQNx-000147-2D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2022 12:16:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38606) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oTQNs-00013q-Vn for 57505-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2022 12:16:12 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42760) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oTQNn-00089h-M6 for 57505-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2022 12:16:03 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=WSheXlOdyuGSvU7zf+YMwi6HpzochxQpxjDeCKINjnY=; b=WbACWpPwQzfL UzKc9m/2b8N9KbB9HtV55PAXM5r9JDwsl29MPY+gYg8uwUW+9RBOJCowwKCnW8CKPPMTvavM904s5 OhUmWYgNTrpe7uOPQXPwq0FBE/qYvx1/7QC/NiXi+weqBJABBqKolJzHjwg5WNrGf3zlNZu/w/ZEc dAV1ankfRsw8Qnnxmq9lLjBaFY/i2NA7a5DRurE6Nib2QZXVMSVLiR5PtSPcoQ4/r4jy6jWfuSe0H w+hnADihNliNCWSnwjCDyHtAPypNuAykcBZ4G2vnDER3oGCiDhGzNFG9Qa0A5Wg91ZT+43C4wPPji bEOfung27mr6XmNhL1hIhQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4751 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oTQNm-0007wR-Oa; Wed, 31 Aug 2022 12:16:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 19:16:28 +0300 Message-Id: <83o7w0s80z.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Arash Esbati In-Reply-To: <86r10wcxvw.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Arash Esbati on Wed, 31 Aug 2022 16:04:35 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#57505: 29.0.50; Is loading seq.el before using it necessary? References: <86r10wcxvw.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57505-done Cc: 57505-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Arash Esbati > Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 16:04:35 +0200 > > The @file{seq.el} library provides the following additional sequence > manipulation macros and functions, prefixed with @code{seq-}. To use > them, you must first load the @file{seq} library. > > Is the last sentence (still?) true? I'm not really familiar with Emacs' > startup process, but seq.el seems to be preloaded, so require'ing it > isn't necessary. Or am I missing something? Thanks, fixed. ------------=_1661962622-4182-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2022 14:05:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40025 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oTOL4-0003ud-Cc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2022 10:05:06 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:34694) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oTOL1-0003uT-KT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2022 10:05:05 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43980) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oTOL1-00063Y-F1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2022 10:05:03 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34694) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oTOL1-00055A-5z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2022 10:05:03 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:Subject:To:From:in-reply-to: references; bh=aglBW6Pb77wIARXa3zEdbAwTjSJ6ReygrRrmfGGoD8c=; b=ohA2LMiCLZxD2x 3OdmS3w7uLFDM88bULuQNqQM5ur0k0HCkvqPKFm83SL3saA35AOmhHzefNxltpwe0E3SLn97XqESz lbGel0uK6wNf3v/7mSigoIsXGVkgcoNK0IYK80EiKjONNDUYy58DGap8dT+x69EP1kO/FsqLgsOQ8 lN9VFzbeprryd24C1oD4dZb11EcJh1zKgP+iifUxQUaau74m8zkC+TycaUb8C3DC0uDwu9KQdKwcQ LE/8m8s3ShgmclAWqQ+wZOpIo2YQawqZ7SIJYpcA/m6BitiK4iFpc/jdha7hMlJlUaP8WtshOrYhA gE6TN8llQ1pxSWoJNouA==; Received: from pd9fb77f7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.251.119.247]:60115 helo=MUTANT) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oTOL0-0007r5-5G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2022 10:05:02 -0400 From: Arash Esbati To: emacs-bugs Subject: 29.0.50; Is loading seq.el before using it necessary? Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 16:04:35 +0200 Message-ID: <86r10wcxvw.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi all, doc/lispref/sequences.texi says this starting in line 448: The @file{seq.el} library provides the following additional sequence manipulation macros and functions, prefixed with @code{seq-}. To use them, you must first load the @file{seq} library. Is the last sentence (still?) true? I'm not really familiar with Emacs' startup process, but seq.el seems to be preloaded, so require'ing it isn't necessary. Or am I missing something? Best, Arash ------------=_1661962622-4182-1--