From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:29:30 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#5749 <5749@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#5749 <5749@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: append-to-buffer and point Reply-To: bug#5749 <5749@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:29:30 +0000 retitle 5749 append-to-buffer and point reassign 5749 emacs submitter 5749 Stephen Berman severity 5749 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Mar 21 11:58:56 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Mar 2010 15:58:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NtNYF-0002UO-TU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:58:56 -0400 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NtNYC-0002UG-9E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:58:54 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:36657) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NtNY7-0005Ss-Gk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:58:47 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NtNY6-0006cK-Td for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:58:46 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=55049 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NtNY4-0006c9-R0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:58:45 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DATE_IN_PAST_24_48, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NtNY3-00005c-TU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:58:44 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:58837) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NtNY3-00005J-GB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:58:43 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 21 Mar 2010 15:58:41 -0000 Received: from i59F5BFFD.versanet.de (EHLO escher.home) [89.245.191.253] by mail.gmx.net (mp060) with SMTP; 21 Mar 2010 16:58:41 +0100 X-Authenticated: #20778731 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18Zgr8NhPAZDv61UL4+LWEuvoyxOGH84edJ/6Nw7Z /5piM3FFxJ9mKK Received: by escher.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BEE5310407; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:50:35 +0100 (CET) From: Stephen Berman To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.0.50; Gomoku startup latency Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:50:35 +0100 Message-ID: <8739zwq62s.fsf@escher.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.53000000000000003 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) 1. Let ~/.emacs consist of this sexp: (setq initial-frame-alist '((fullscreen . fullheight))) 2. Start Emacs with the above init file. 3. M-x gomoku => There is a noticeable delay loading the game -- on my system 3-4 seconds. This also occurs when the height frame parameter is assigned a corresponding integer value. The latency decreases as the height value decreases. (At the default height of 35, the startup time is practically instantaneous.) In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.6) of 2010-03-19 on escher Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10605000 Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=local locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 23 21:51:41 2010 Received: (at 5749) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2010 01:51:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuFkn-00038b-5f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:51:41 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuFkm-00038V-53 for 5749@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:51:28 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuFki-0006YN-D5; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:51:24 -0400 To: Stephen Berman Subject: Re: bug#5749: 24.0.50; Gomoku startup latency References: <8739zwq62s.fsf@escher.home> From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: Sundevil AMW wire transfer SP4 Ansar al-Islam assassinate X-Ran: }Vsw,wx)F.;Y.x#'Kw32'X6Kj.c!'yhJb9lw/#e%c X-Hue: blue X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:51:24 -0400 Message-ID: <9rmxxy32sj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5749 Cc: 5749@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) Stephen Berman wrote: > 1. Let ~/.emacs consist of this sexp: > (setq initial-frame-alist '((fullscreen . fullheight))) > 2. Start Emacs with the above init file. > 3. M-x gomoku > => There is a noticeable delay loading the game -- on my system 3-4 > seconds. This is interesting. Emacs 23.1 is almost instantaneous, but 23.1.94 is very slow, and also starts using a huge amount of memory (1GB+ for me). Loading gomoku.el from 23.1 in 23.1.94 makes no difference. In 23.1.94, the values of cons-cells-consed and intervals-consed go up enormously (by ~ 70 million and 10 million) after running `gomoku'. > In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.6) > of 2010-03-19 on escher From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 23 23:15:17 2010 Received: (at 5749) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2010 03:15:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuH3s-00040j-VI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:15:17 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuH3o-0003mP-EK for 5749@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:15:14 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAJMgqUvO+IPa/2dsb2JhbACbJnS+SoR9BIsZ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,298,1267419600"; d="scan'208";a="58936363" Received: from 206-248-131-218.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([206.248.131.218]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 23 Mar 2010 23:15:08 -0400 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 7AFBF660BF; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:15:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#5749: 24.0.50; Gomoku startup latency Message-ID: References: <8739zwq62s.fsf@escher.home> <9rmxxy32sj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:15:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: <9rmxxy32sj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:51:24 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5749 Cc: Stephen Berman , 5749@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) >> 1. Let ~/.emacs consist of this sexp: >> (setq initial-frame-alist '((fullscreen . fullheight))) >> 2. Start Emacs with the above init file. >> 3. M-x gomoku >> => There is a noticeable delay loading the game -- on my system 3-4 >> seconds. > This is interesting. Emacs 23.1 is almost instantaneous, but 23.1.94 > is very slow, and also starts using a huge amount of memory (1GB+ for me). > Loading gomoku.el from 23.1 in 23.1.94 makes no difference. Indeed. ELP says the time is all spent in insert-buffer-substring, called via append-to-buffer (in my case, 13 calls of 0.5s each). Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 23 23:27:11 2010 Received: (at 5749) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2010 03:27:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuHFP-0004Bd-H6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:27:11 -0400 Received: from mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp ([133.82.132.2]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuHFM-0004BY-LP for 5749@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:27:10 -0400 Received: from church.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (church [133.82.132.36]) by mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D15C0557; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:27:03 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:27:03 +0900 Message-ID: From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#5749: 24.0.50; Gomoku startup latency In-Reply-To: <9rmxxy32sj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <8739zwq62s.fsf@escher.home> <9rmxxy32sj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Organization: Faculty of Science, Chiba University MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5749 Cc: Stephen Berman , 5749@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) >>>>> On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:51:24 -0400, Glenn Morris said: > Stephen Berman wrote: >> 1. Let ~/.emacs consist of this sexp: >> (setq initial-frame-alist '((fullscreen . fullheight))) >> 2. Start Emacs with the above init file. >> 3. M-x gomoku >> => There is a noticeable delay loading the game -- on my system 3-4 >> seconds. > This is interesting. Emacs 23.1 is almost instantaneous, but 23.1.94 > is very slow, and also starts using a huge amount of memory (1GB+ for me). > Loading gomoku.el from 23.1 in 23.1.94 makes no difference. This is due to a behavioral change of `append-to-buffer', which used to preserve the point when the first argument coincides with the current buffer. The following patch would work for this case. Maybe other occurrences of `(append-to-buffer (current-buffer) ...)' should also be checked if they work as intended. YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp === modified file 'lisp/play/gomoku.el' *** lisp/play/gomoku.el 2010-01-13 08:35:10 +0000 --- lisp/play/gomoku.el 2010-03-24 03:04:35 +0000 *************** *** 1040,1046 **** (= i (- m 2)) (progn (while (>= i 3) ! (append-to-buffer (current-buffer) opoint (point)) (setq i (- i 2))) (goto-char (point-max)))) (setq point (point)) --- 1040,1046 ---- (= i (- m 2)) (progn (while (>= i 3) ! (prepend-to-buffer (current-buffer) opoint (point)) (setq i (- i 2))) (goto-char (point-max)))) (setq point (point)) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 24 00:04:01 2010 Received: (at 5749) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2010 04:04:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuHp3-0004NZ-3v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:04:01 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuHp1-0004NU-4e for 5749@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:03:59 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuHov-0003Ol-U0; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:03:53 -0400 To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Subject: Re: bug#5749: 24.0.50; Gomoku startup latency References: <8739zwq62s.fsf@escher.home> <9rmxxy32sj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: NORAD TELINT quiche smuggle M-14 Arnett Freeh Glock X-Ran: RUuD-4(;Qk_dBY^2a7%^>X&O._?>3Q;#JUta)X0dC*iD@mXX*SC2OYrzcxMJ3H)m/2V}/d X-Hue: cyan X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:03:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: (YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu's message of "Wed\, 24 Mar 2010 12\:27\:03 +0900") Message-ID: <9hzl1ywel2.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5749 Cc: 5749@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu wrote: > This is due to a behavioral change of `append-to-buffer', which used > to preserve the point when the first argument coincides with the > current buffer. This change doesn't seem to be documented in NEWS, was it intentional? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 24 05:14:46 2010 Received: (at 5749) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2010 09:14:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuMfm-0006Mu-6c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 05:14:46 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuMfh-0006Mm-99 for 5749@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 05:14:44 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 24 Mar 2010 09:14:37 -0000 Received: from i59F5639B.versanet.de (EHLO escher.home) [89.245.99.155] by mail.gmx.net (mp069) with SMTP; 24 Mar 2010 10:14:37 +0100 X-Authenticated: #20778731 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19AN+IcwKlA17JQ2nfXV0UMDK3OHbCdLgVXQnEJ1k +0bTWr58QPQlMw Received: by escher.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A1D1310399; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:14:35 +0100 (CET) From: Stephen Berman To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Subject: Re: bug#5749: 24.0.50; Gomoku startup latency References: <8739zwq62s.fsf@escher.home> <9rmxxy32sj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:14:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: (YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu's message of "Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:27:03 +0900") Message-ID: <878w9im684.fsf@escher.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.57999999999999996 X-Spam-Score: -3.2 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5749 Cc: Glenn Morris , 5749@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.2 (---) On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:27:03 +0900 YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:51:24 -0400, Glenn Morris said: > >> Stephen Berman wrote: >>> 1. Let ~/.emacs consist of this sexp: >>> (setq initial-frame-alist '((fullscreen . fullheight))) >>> 2. Start Emacs with the above init file. >>> 3. M-x gomoku >>> => There is a noticeable delay loading the game -- on my system 3-4 >>> seconds. > >> This is interesting. Emacs 23.1 is almost instantaneous, but 23.1.94 >> is very slow, and also starts using a huge amount of memory (1GB+ for me). >> Loading gomoku.el from 23.1 in 23.1.94 makes no difference. > > This is due to a behavioral change of `append-to-buffer', which used > to preserve the point when the first argument coincides with the > current buffer. The following patch would work for this case. I confirm that this patch eliminates the startup latency for me. Steve Berman From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 24 11:28:52 2010 Received: (at 5749) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2010 15:28:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuSVn-0000pN-HU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:28:51 -0400 Received: from pantheon-po34.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.80]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuSVl-0000pI-Gi for 5749@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:28:49 -0400 Received: from furry (dhcp128036014175.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.175]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po34.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2OFShBI011290 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:28:43 -0400 Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D2E0DC011; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:28:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#5749: 24.0.50; Gomoku startup latency References: <8739zwq62s.fsf@escher.home> <9rmxxy32sj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <9hzl1ywel2.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:28:43 -0400 In-Reply-To: <9hzl1ywel2.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:03:53 -0400") Message-ID: <87tys5rb6c.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5749 Cc: 5749@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) Glenn Morris writes: > YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu wrote: > >> This is due to a behavioral change of `append-to-buffer', which used >> to preserve the point when the first argument coincides with the >> current buffer. > > This change doesn't seem to be documented in NEWS, was it intentional? I suspect this was done as part of Stefan's mass conversion of code to with-current-buffer. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 24 12:19:06 2010 Received: (at 5749) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2010 16:19:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuTIP-0001AG-LE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:19:05 -0400 Received: from pantheon-po25.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.119]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuTIO-00019u-9W for 5749@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:19:04 -0400 Received: from furry (dhcp128036014175.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.175]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po25.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2OGIxW6005043 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:18:59 -0400 Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 79610C011; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:18:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Subject: Re: bug#5749: 24.0.50; Gomoku startup latency References: <8739zwq62s.fsf@escher.home> <9rmxxy32sj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:18:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: (YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu's message of "Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:27:03 +0900") Message-ID: <87pr2tr8uk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5749 Cc: Glenn Morris , Stephen Berman , 5749@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu writes: > This is due to a behavioral change of `append-to-buffer', which used > to preserve the point when the first argument coincides with the > current buffer. I've changed append-to-buffer to conform to the previous behavior. Could someone check whether gomoku works properly now? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 24 13:27:34 2010 Received: (at 5749) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2010 17:27:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuUMg-0002TL-6Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:27:34 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuUMe-0002TE-Ki for 5749@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:27:33 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAMrnqUvO+IPa/2dsb2JhbACbGnTABoR+BIsc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,301,1267419600"; d="scan'208";a="58973336" Received: from 206-248-131-218.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.131.218]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 24 Mar 2010 13:27:27 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 7E9887EF9; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:27:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Chong Yidong Subject: Re: bug#5749: 24.0.50; Gomoku startup latency Message-ID: References: <8739zwq62s.fsf@escher.home> <9rmxxy32sj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <9hzl1ywel2.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87tys5rb6c.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:27:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87tys5rb6c.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:28:43 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5749 Cc: Glenn Morris , 5749@debbugs.gnu.org, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) >>> This is due to a behavioral change of `append-to-buffer', which used >>> to preserve the point when the first argument coincides with the >>> current buffer. >> This change doesn't seem to be documented in NEWS, was it intentional? > I suspect this was done as part of Stefan's mass conversion of code to > with-current-buffer. Indeed. Note that the new behavior happens to be more correct w.r.t its docstring: It is inserted into that buffer before its point. so it promises to move point in the specified buffer. At first I thought we should fix append-to-buffer to behave as it used to, but now I'm wondering whether we should fix the uses instead. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 24 15:06:02 2010 Received: (at 5749) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2010 19:06:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuVty-0003AA-FR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:06:02 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuVtv-00039x-Ow for 5749@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:06:00 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 24 Mar 2010 19:05:53 -0000 Received: from i59F5639B.versanet.de (EHLO escher.home) [89.245.99.155] by mail.gmx.net (mp045) with SMTP; 24 Mar 2010 20:05:53 +0100 X-Authenticated: #20778731 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+rL6drZFSr50IbD3XApCzk+Cv/nOTChRIs5jPqi/ sE6I3+qMYkLWDn Received: by escher.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B8CB3103A0; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:05:50 +0100 (CET) From: Stephen Berman To: Chong Yidong Subject: Re: bug#5749: 24.0.50; Gomoku startup latency References: <8739zwq62s.fsf@escher.home> <9rmxxy32sj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87pr2tr8uk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:05:50 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87pr2tr8uk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:18:59 -0400") Message-ID: <87y6hhleup.fsf@escher.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.65000000000000002 X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5749 Cc: 5749@debbugs.gnu.org, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:18:59 -0400 Chong Yidong wrote: > YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu writes: > >> This is due to a behavioral change of `append-to-buffer', which used >> to preserve the point when the first argument coincides with the >> current buffer. > > I've changed append-to-buffer to conform to the previous behavior. > > Could someone check whether gomoku works properly now? I applied your change (after reverting Yamamoto-san's change I had previously applied) and confirm it also eliminates the startup latency. Steve Berman From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 24 16:19:29 2010 Received: (at 5749) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2010 20:19:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuX32-0003e0-Qa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:19:29 -0400 Received: from pantheon-po33.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.94]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuX2z-0003ds-Mk for 5749@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:19:26 -0400 Received: from furry (dhcp128036014175.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.175]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po33.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2OKJKGS015196 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:19:20 -0400 Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C304EC011; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:19:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#5749: 24.0.50; Gomoku startup latency References: <8739zwq62s.fsf@escher.home> <9rmxxy32sj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <9hzl1ywel2.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87tys5rb6c.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:19:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:27:26 -0400") Message-ID: <877hp1qxpz.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5749 Cc: Glenn Morris , 5749@debbugs.gnu.org, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) Stefan Monnier writes: > Indeed. Note that the new behavior happens to be more correct w.r.t its > docstring: > > It is inserted into that buffer before its point. > > so it promises to move point in the specified buffer. At first > I thought we should fix append-to-buffer to behave as it used to, but > now I'm wondering whether we should fix the uses instead. I've changed it to behave as it used to in the branch, because who know how many other packages rely on the same assumption gomoku did. As for whether to switch to the new behavior in the trunk, if so it should be documented. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 24 19:44:42 2010 Received: (at 5749) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2010 23:44:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuaFd-0005SN-Bu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:44:41 -0400 Received: from mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp ([133.82.132.2]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuaFa-0005SG-E5 for 5749@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:44:39 -0400 Received: from church.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (church [133.82.132.36]) by mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32898C0557; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:44:33 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:44:33 +0900 Message-ID: From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu To: Chong Yidong Subject: Re: bug#5749: 24.0.50; Gomoku startup latency In-Reply-To: <877hp1qxpz.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <8739zwq62s.fsf@escher.home> <9rmxxy32sj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <9hzl1ywel2.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87tys5rb6c.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <877hp1qxpz.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Organization: Faculty of Science, Chiba University MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5749 Cc: Glenn Morris , 5749@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) >>>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:19:20 -0400, Chong Yidong said: > Stefan Monnier writes: >> Indeed. Note that the new behavior happens to be more correct >> w.r.t its docstring: >> >> It is inserted into that buffer before its point. >> >> so it promises to move point in the specified buffer. At first I >> thought we should fix append-to-buffer to behave as it used to, but >> now I'm wondering whether we should fix the uses instead. That's exactly what I thought, and that's why I posted a patch that changes (append-to-buffer (current-buffer) ...) to (prepend-to-buffer (current-buffer) ...), rather than reverting append-to-buffer. > I've changed it to behave as it used to in the branch, because who > know how many other packages rely on the same assumption gomoku did. > As for whether to switch to the new behavior in the trunk, if so it > should be documented. If it is changed in the trunk, then it might be good to add some notices to documents in Emacs 23.2, telling the behavior of append-to-buffer might change in future with respect to the current buffer, and suggesting prepend-to-buffer for those cases to make the behavior consistent. YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 25 00:09:05 2010 Received: (at 5749) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2010 04:09:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NueNV-0007SJ-G6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 00:09:05 -0400 Received: from mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp ([133.82.132.2]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NueNT-0007Ry-4h for 5749@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 00:09:04 -0400 Received: from church.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (church [133.82.132.36]) by mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96D00C0557; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:08:58 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:08:58 +0900 Message-ID: From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu To: Chong Yidong Subject: Re: bug#5749: 24.0.50; Gomoku startup latency In-Reply-To: <87pr2tr8uk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <8739zwq62s.fsf@escher.home> <9rmxxy32sj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87pr2tr8uk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Organization: Faculty of Science, Chiba University MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5749 Cc: 5749@debbugs.gnu.org, Glenn Morris , Stephen Berman , YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) >>>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:18:59 -0400, Chong Yidong said: > YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu writes: >> This is due to a behavioral change of `append-to-buffer', which >> used to preserve the point when the first argument coincides with >> the current buffer. > I've changed append-to-buffer to conform to the previous behavior. Not actually. It has changed the behavior for the case that the destination buffer is *not* the current one (especially, when the destigation buffer does not have any windows). YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 25 01:55:09 2010 Received: (at 5749) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2010 05:55:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nug28-00082v-ME for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 01:55:08 -0400 Received: from pantheon-po34.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.80]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nug27-00082h-19 for 5749@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 01:55:07 -0400 Received: from furry (adsl-99-70-212-128.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net [99.70.212.128]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po34.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2P5t1eG011148 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 25 Mar 2010 01:55:03 -0400 Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 01C23C011; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 01:54:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Subject: Re: bug#5749: 24.0.50; Gomoku startup latency References: <8739zwq62s.fsf@escher.home> <9rmxxy32sj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87pr2tr8uk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 01:54:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: (YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu's message of "Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:08:58 +0900") Message-ID: <87mxxxx7ws.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5749 Cc: Glenn Morris , Stephen Berman , 5749@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu writes: >> I've changed append-to-buffer to conform to the previous behavior. > > Not actually. It has changed the behavior for the case that the > destination buffer is *not* the current one (especially, when the > destigation buffer does not have any windows). Sorry, should be fixed now. Thanks for checking. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 26 14:22:36 2010 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Mar 2010 18:22:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NvEB2-0006UH-CH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:22:36 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NvEB0-0006U9-ER for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:22:34 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NvEAv-0001kU-CG; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:22:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19372.64357.289117.642050@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:22:29 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: control Subject: control X-Attribution: GM X-Mailer: VM (www.wonderworks.com/vm), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs) X-Hue: white X-Ran: wAru+q8flFd2j@Oe&cz+WUw^bP%Sm<'e*%%+,K{g/&{$L)A_8Osw:$Ms&nSl2Sc|w9'lTV X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Spam-Score: -5.1 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.1 (-----) merge 5776 5778 5779 5780 5781 5783 severity 5762 wishlist tags 5762 patch close 5755 close 5749 retitle 5749 append-to-buffer and point reassign 5767 emacs,gnus user emacs23.3 usertags 5755 port-from-trunk From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:29:30 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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