From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 22 04:59:54 2022 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2022 08:59:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37778 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oQ3Hm-0004VL-51 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 04:59:54 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:37478) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oQ3Hk-0004VD-8x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 04:59:52 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47734) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQ3Hk-0001Mf-3p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 04:59:52 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:35645) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQ3Hi-0005lG-4o for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 04:59:51 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1661158785; bh=rfnd3nayDsd47U4GxGtnlOiqq1Uoh0qxzEZUIPRjHzk=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Subject:Date; b=CiUsV3mfP36wWgGffS9D/HCVjoUFiNhID/hJQoZDzHMwvAI+qR4JbvcjouJkm77cY x4G5zyPigDNbfbI9K95PrEZuTmivYJAUag10zqchmvVI0GqVtTM/Cr3SX2uUmdThFn 8U6oQg017xRebmbOsa7+6K820mQaQ82ZCCnwfwRY= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from strobelfs2 ([89.246.36.224]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N95e9-1pURKJ3f9z-0169F7 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 10:59:44 +0200 From: Stephen Berman To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 29.0.50; Tramp and recentf yet again Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022 10:59:44 +0200 Message-ID: <87edx8hcvz.fsf@rub.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:mn6SfzViXCsLegVXzJQ9Ju06Mm+NoeJZ3VLxYoMGyIxZJiJHXyZ UEsdOcuVo8jVetDN+VxQ/xbaNU82vYOGDSyNBRwtLiXCCD/ZoSbuIxZFr2mPn4vTPjzomp5 qzJFO3ZVBIIyYjsB9RnKkPL+Bt/SJawpTYOjVneNbkthmk1QTuMex+/wIgk182DCVnK6ag/ Qe9meogdrwixbaGW4SISw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:zHjnUBBqd6s=:WVbNBxQo45RnMlZHtXbFWl aLiuqqB5WxdkTXBKxKht27oV0JfPFlFQ7YPvHMajKLa9Iym83esgdmYw3KxNZfO02zoamJYMY XIV7/8LnhTR3QwP46QIMxcj1D9sf1VkJGYmVUjnDxySIGntJRO823IAiGgphSRR+emhJOA44G x+YqhUQfsKxigd5UwPz4owNQiGADu6PgsbJGKGFBALGttBFOeDpFbekNBQ1Dl2CMcbIj8ocoF jaIaE9eXfs3ULpr1uk9DASw0yhUxglR+e3tyKExMP3Fy+dvhNfF190m51Ppp+FIKh45qRZ5pK E3SgqBhIVs0A2coVHbIHUrtZq6W6CRonDvbairGW7ONH919cuMu1j6xYrurca/C4+gEpStyDz feIG81nt02f2tabILc+415z6b14luEmo8Z6XI2EXY93AaOLfW80zbYbZIeSsdSLB7T9PGGZUN yAbqdbCRn/S9kX5bTf00eq2HTdP+W056l982pOUWcodBSpB446IYpduvPDkmTqzMxr1e68W0U gURze6gl2FeSFPxW1jmrLA1wb2cE72fwRzcKu1B20oocr+0iAASUdTVnF5EifKNSI0IdW/m5C 1K6V3Iy3vhRNbpantPJYAW1w5jTp3hlsC6YHv1pJs7XGYr4tEc/E7rU1Oq2jotwqHa3arrcP7 qr8YA0s78J+qZC+ICmLI9boBdU0dKkWzeI29KnFWuGZXHifQAj9vaG7TmJwh0lIXLhH8ZDVIV WSzpRIX3OVTlaebQqSuxtFETKIJch6hto+ozRRzgrPRwNwWKaVDIlHS+B3hQxnUMoHaT73NYP iv3o/pSNNRCDMIxZp+6+IwVZMgS1WtosrizdaQk9vpcnKStVmkaF9JltbyUkvBgWYTaly/1QP CMpKBvZdwL8nkqWspWPkEMBA5J3IF58dxRt6lWCqFbHI/70eo5m5n5yQSEIA25jfzEuRkwdJL YJNm8c/J+ZATnpdcMiTrXTNDq8G5gYRlUCtBK9DYy6iJlkQo5R6/QryPdPjlzIzWrmO4YXUkJ /ospj+/zA6tdRSNzhLa5eowHg+LM3jGJt92JWbMDm2ndAejYWuPWxvAc+XsWR0rDSBlmzu9m3 zDByIBE1hdljULhSn5PNKlYtnb0uiEgXNM6fSGP3ByQDcS/GR7NhomWcw== Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.18; envelope-from=stephen.berman@gmx.net; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) With my current build from master, when my ~/emacs.d/recentf file contains an entry that uses ssh to connect to another machine and this machine is offline when I start Emacs, then Tramp repeatedly tries to connect to that machine. To reproduce: 0. Let ~/emacs.d/recentf consist of the following (the entry in recentf-list refers to a machine that is currently offline): ;;; Automatically generated by =E2=80=98recentf=E2=80=99 on Mon Aug 22 09:= 50:45 2022. (setq recentf-list '( "/ssh:steve@hpaul:~/" )) (setq recentf-filter-changer-current 'nil) =0C ;; Local Variables: ;; coding: utf-8-emacs ;; End: 1. Let ~/.emacs consist of the following: (recentf-mode 1) 2. emacs 3. The echo area displays "Opening connection nil for steve@hpaul using ssh..." 4. After a little while "failed" gets appended to the message, and then the echo area displays "Timeout reached, see buffer =E2=80=98*tramp/ssh steve@hpaul*=E2=80=99 for details" 5. Tramp tries again, repeating the message in step 3, then times out again, repeating the message in step, and so on indefinitely. I can break this cycle only by typing C-g and holding down the keys (just repeatedly typing C-g doesn't work). When Tramp no longer tries to connect, *Messages* displays this: Tramp: Opening connection nil for steve@hpaul using ssh...failed Cleaning up the recentf list... error: "Lisp nesting exceeds =E2=80=98max-lisp-eval-depth=E2=80=99" Quit [7 times] Invoking tramp-cleanup-this-connection or tramp-cleanup-all-connections does not prevent the attempts to connect on restarting Emacs, only deleting the entries from recentf-list works. I frequently use Tramp to ssh to other machines, so I assume my recentf file normally contains such entries as above. Or perhaps I have always killed all buffers displaying files on such machines before shutting down Emacs, and then the entries are removed from the recentf file, and this time I had not killed those buffers? I don't know, but it seems unlikely. Anyway, Tramp has not attempted to connect to these machines on starting Emacs until my current build (I have had issues with Tramp and recentf in the past, see bug#26258 and bug#27108, but these were fixed). I don't remember exactly when my most recent previous build was, but I think it was within the last 1-3 weeks at most. In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.33, = cairo version 1.17.6) of 2022-08-19 built on strobelfs2 Repository revision: dd97bff219dd3039c576710850e04fa4fa32f004 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101004 System Description: Linux From Scratch r11.0-165 Configured using: 'configure --with-xinput2 --with-xwidgets 'CFLAGS=3D-Og -g3' PKG_CONFIG_PATH=3D/opt/qt5/lib/pkgconfig' Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS WEBP X11 XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM XWIDGETS GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 27 15:54:41 2022 Received: (at 57336) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Aug 2022 19:54:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57148 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oS1tA-0001Lf-Uw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Aug 2022 15:54:41 -0400 Received: from kamnitnik.top ([209.250.245.214]:42656) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oS1t7-0001LU-SK for 57336@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Aug 2022 15:54:39 -0400 From: miha@kamnitnik.top DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kamnitnik.top; s=mail; t=1661630076; bh=2LXv0ljhIkeYxYLhDcU+gGfgDl2MWu6Fs16nLedbLyQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=rkUtibUu+2F4zXMd34nUy0ZZlpb4G50ofEEUuds7o1cKDhsTIEU2ZnXlIP7CtcKbw UNfoLFjDrrRQk5XpkIp7HfT816FsziI7mWYTRDZyPjE2BZ01RSYwm87YX6UnCQk+2K sNa8Rc1RlOt9FGsMTfSQWvgCw5BpjkDCgZn7ASyX4fsYvBJxPyCa7km6x91UhpU9KC A1QNgDEgFtWha4OFkyWbFpfpWVrSX+Yh2dOOTyBYw98KBA0K8utte3BtvAPhPoh73Q P3a2K03Yzdd1JkT/Kxw/ugeWz/gi3RIm8geRY+iGP0lSAZCGOdW7izLfxMspMPDRCG 3WfGYB1KOHNeQ== To: Stephen Berman , 57336@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#57336: 29.0.50; Tramp and recentf yet again In-Reply-To: <87edx8hcvz.fsf@rub.de> References: <87edx8hcvz.fsf@rub.de> Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2022 22:07:29 +0200 Message-ID: <87mtbpxxfi.fsf@miha-pc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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[...] I suspect that this is due to commit c753e4cb2a2a5998626d48d85071c047cbab6c54 Author: Stefan Kangas Date: Thu Jun 23 11:00:19 2022 +0200 Use shortened filenames in recentf-mode =20=20=20=20 * lisp/recentf.el (recentf-filename-handlers): Set to 'abbreviate-file-name' to get shortened names by default. 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[...] > > I suspect that this is due to > > commit c753e4cb2a2a5998626d48d85071c047cbab6c54 > Author: Stefan Kangas > Date: Thu Jun 23 11:00:19 2022 +0200 > > Use shortened filenames in recentf-mode > > * lisp/recentf.el (recentf-filename-handlers): Set to > 'abbreviate-file-name' to get shortened names by default. (Bug#56123) > > 'abbreviate-file-name' tries to establish a connection for remote file > names. Hmm, maybe Michael knows what's going on here, added to Cc. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 29 06:09:10 2022 Received: (at 57336) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Aug 2022 10:09:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60170 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oSbhe-0007GR-8L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2022 06:09:10 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:50181) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oSbhc-0007Fz-1h for 57336@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2022 06:09:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1661767740; bh=O5fNE7I/M+LXahvDXkUaEiElQgZbBfGJqyVFzogfnKo=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=FMWoBeiwo8EztGgji/8pKL4VXo+SE7zkL9tdcOpDx5hdopWudWkSyIjEKAlWact5J MO/ce0ZwOZIAo/NOzRLoJtLXli9LhURi/maIYffx6udiZ+i+p1a98QhlPs9DA6limQ /RBmYbSxG/ZOHPD4V0Z3Zj6ESvyTXuw1MVIRdWo8= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([79.140.119.58]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MNbp3-1onIJD1nJ5-00P9tO; Mon, 29 Aug 2022 12:09:00 +0200 From: Michael Albinus To: Stefan Kangas Subject: Re: bug#57336: 29.0.50; Tramp and recentf yet again In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Sun, 28 Aug 2022 15:02:44 -0700") References: <87edx8hcvz.fsf@rub.de> <87mtbpxxfi.fsf@miha-pc> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2022 12:08:58 +0200 Message-ID: <87czcjqs3p.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:B2JxhMb4jp7Lv6vBmTfi06RvbnkX110st9F75NvSxGkpIbLMZPi dGQfbloi2yuNMCyeHg1HRwYXwWTKw844MpiAhi2yqXF3Fz6eLRja0yAI5piuYY/baBGUdMl XTu3GQPXhQI+fu+nSVk2KaLxw+6Ys4asfsojmXU+tG8k0tb21zmUeHAWRJ3iXEiJJLq2WdJ fBhGP6/1b1NAMnZsC/pYg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:lHELmTlCUbo=:+C7qtHpFJzOgskN88Eg4PS qrLISYDMx9frcuxSW+efq0cgnYHBYEYXQjZHbGA04tLCiKC1dp1T+JHW5x7SaC/SGpp2azzJc xmOkl8gYqCEegR2p9RnOGmoFLY4klflsLAkL8Rq2ksKqzgB60Jd/63PWkiuRBK5zDSmBJiBn4 w3arBm/V7VKXAOIpncqMfFFrentyc2D1YJMdBFJpsMH9gcDHrq7lbnVDI6H/04OuteUZKluUq hhWz36Lyj9cIzU7d2czIo60rTYiANdJOjc7Va6nvq+S/XlzvFYmrdwZKFJgDMzzM30ydUI2mM BhcV7i8/XBryud6yWQVUiIJ8zrY9DrfQNenlQUTzBt8snU+xAGp96RGeFTixW1Ffor/WucEhs EwOXcLcxuWprbaOuKAYyPuoxQsgNg0QStiWVrXoSqj6aOlGQYUxzTYN2MNfKA+RCs+uN5rhnt mxqX+VhlzQ7o3mjWCK9QQlq6q4rMj31K3qK4uWYejM/1muoDQTFoRrU4G9Kk26eOccltkZqwS DdIR51J8BAWsqu195fD2ICQsm+3kWGFG/bn8xRf5B6Ra6j9ykEDXq+0ohp/mlQPFqbJNhm8ac BnSx5Xy/SPu+gvx8TkGYIfjwRfgBdrA8s2Z9whT5V/ZLCtwMWs2tAmvsqgLhPTUN1SJLpCk9X ZZmopotIRTkZ/mCZrjS9dEHpV8yvDJ9A2gaQh/u9Qflwf/fBvjvdl//+ItAXqKw4F4CR+1hB1 5h/k1iBtTrh793Vs+7op+9D5N1HvKFgH1NOyYoBOs5Zdj2hrApsoLxSG2bb2jyO8uG2ZwnRzS HJ7FPz3leZ7cshCgwA7VX2EkG2AytYeIssDxliTOPTtVNqfYHQT3nUUbUr9D18OlNffatlrjK pnwNBbixZrV8R3nkWgVn8uIrH8bb4yfqudBpruoqcPANQLOPqc+cenjopwVK6lUNWX3pNBVym SsusSEIlAU57jX0MYbjqo/wo5KQeSffpi/xVqluB84LJcIPmRdSngJja9ojI3awMRXZHTNF5/ cMwbZZTPDzbkFvD/FZ0t0gQkhjEExVNwS8gIOAwFh9hW3m3yJiqnVI1ZRJCyPI28/iw2DEdxW 24yg/NQBBCfbfcwq7BQdu1Gz1LAu5bBQQimwRRHpFtRecFmvSFHQlOS+g== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57336 Cc: Stephen Berman , miha@kamnitnik.top, 57336@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Stefan Kangas writes: Hi Stefan, >>> With my current build from master, when my ~/emacs.d/recentf file >>> contains an entry that uses ssh to connect to another machine and this >>> machine is offline when I start Emacs, then Tramp repeatedly tries to >>> connect to that machine. [...] >> >> I suspect that this is due to >> >> commit c753e4cb2a2a5998626d48d85071c047cbab6c54 >> Author: Stefan Kangas >> Date: Thu Jun 23 11:00:19 2022 +0200 >> >> Use shortened filenames in recentf-mode >> >> * lisp/recentf.el (recentf-filename-handlers): Set to >> 'abbreviate-file-name' to get shortened names by default. (Bug#56123) >> >> 'abbreviate-file-name' tries to establish a connection for remote file >> names. > > Hmm, maybe Michael knows what's going on here, added to Cc. The problem is rather expand-file-name, which goes remote when the file name contains a tilde "~". I've pushed a fix to master, could you pls check? Best regards, Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 29 06:28:53 2022 Received: (at 57336) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Aug 2022 10:28:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60182 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oSc0j-0007s5-16 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2022 06:28:53 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:35667) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oSc0f-0007rq-EI for 57336@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2022 06:28:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1661768922; bh=9tyTn8Ck7H/r2OfH5QopkjiWtwzWMoV8EPjpsVjNbo4=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=krGdLSO/ma7l3p3ILDsTkOhF96Wbrv7aDkW/8YPafJtdYLCNGJ7x9yutJPfuH9QwD 8DFvhHJbuSpojyzRHbUjPslImBBTeZBO3j/47zEOyJ5JPl5Lac/rjI79U6N2alhHwY TAEuUjcL0oXb087ml+iXPHOL06QR4fNxOI5ZvE0I= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from strobelfs2 ([89.246.38.203]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M5wLT-1oVdCr1l1f-007R5R; Mon, 29 Aug 2022 12:28:42 +0200 From: Stephen Berman To: Michael Albinus Subject: Re: bug#57336: 29.0.50; Tramp and recentf yet again In-Reply-To: <87czcjqs3p.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Mon, 29 Aug 2022 12:08:58 +0200") References: <87edx8hcvz.fsf@rub.de> <87mtbpxxfi.fsf@miha-pc> <87czcjqs3p.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2022 12:28:40 +0200 Message-ID: <87bks3e42v.fsf@rub.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:SeAKsFm/USI4n7xXLjzymSf/MNjiVlEsLKweepO7AMgcO+8sIBp z6B2vKVQHc7NDTBR6X10RAIz04UJP8OQXDBtN41r4zXWCQdFaONpjeWQmjszTnkTTLok6p8 /pMeVHezfZ+FZDeP8afKqGAMs9fRlw3yQl2oN16bKPNtGYKKKW8Rc0DqIa93glSuFWTwrzI Qu0hOfPXi8KPubYIaki0Q== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:9j7UEIPHPaI=:+20Sq7j65kOhumzFIRgqRN rNQp8Aktr14e/e9MN+ONIsMjryEAUcfK+vd55cRcWPN/xhe8VKNcvazXhJuoxuOlXOvbLu+ns 5umgnq1o94Xc0WFiaNUf+U5OANVyomduGjMaKLlb1xOEJnEljgNmN6eg3cn+/0+38m4IBgxD4 l8fWYVYnAxNyWUHeSyX+zta8j5aKtXHNjbHY/7bB463JtTgd4OFHfOPPnXzjHxtekG3iaKgTT 0o+zZppU7Iaz1aGc6VG36H5O/nFcQ0mvV2DYYmCUwhC7quvNOvys7VtZWz6X4k+JRi55T+hPW LgHUKjRsCa4ygw+uBc6jK9GZ+XweKodgFV3g2N244Al9wsel1CrAnVhqPrQtKZ0DmxcvGfqzN K3nS1oZYqQANRcvXTtoTjdjKsTmFsvSNtvIifXVClrBnwzXwMhRALvdfvKHcbwOGXww+mpUeY pzclvh39/+2GN2QeQ2eK97ex7xD08LAevLQVUK8yUFoEUw0vFsJPfw+GAm9g2NnR28llRnwCP apItdfTqCN+sZzUdmJW11iUKDaCU5QUwo+gzqF6RqzBi6madRPqBC/va+DKDxlfMpwIz+U0cD FeVy0/AEA26gAdNSx+WNvC1kKJqOmJD7dyZm4w0zcCxUBZTf/7pfR8bcpnJQ5St2iLEZzddG9 pAfDkKAZrcJCMrsVgF+qndaiSUe+v/x/rmpJNpAhFBYXsd3X7pliCfNeiKQ1swBno35a1hbh2 rZ+upfdS3kSR4SAmNnLbtm7ZACi8L1wt2vpNxevDKAPxUVrK+RO8W177xR6oW6xetzYF3GFaJ OBfdWZTc8JzeEdPx7T2I1kVoCHA66FJqEDJKByEB3klr90GJQiA71l0lvvHma7H1kAOHhUm5d ba5NhSHpbd9VOQN832coCpNty5xhqVFis8eNXkO3babpVux9kGjwUQVnowW5jHcLABM5JXGMN KsQMfOp/seWrLxUuf4zxiRQ3u25LxaEYdjRhmXGpF/0dU+GQYPI40TLD+7XuPmfVV5NdPBX61 utmU2+R/+yy+1UHloMgXuTGVpTTM0lUp1pRdUCcca+IAYDDnqg08ciD6C2W27jQJXqGFTLRX3 r+F0pehHhs8zJUjbpJNQDh63rkkHaz2t2yHdnxw6URBZEb8Tjx+dbgm9w== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57336 Cc: Stefan Kangas , miha@kamnitnik.top, 57336@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Mon, 29 Aug 2022 12:08:58 +0200 Michael Albinus wrote: > Stefan Kangas writes: > > Hi Stefan, > >>>> With my current build from master, when my ~/emacs.d/recentf file >>>> contains an entry that uses ssh to connect to another machine and this >>>> machine is offline when I start Emacs, then Tramp repeatedly tries to >>>> connect to that machine. [...] >>> >>> I suspect that this is due to >>> >>> commit c753e4cb2a2a5998626d48d85071c047cbab6c54 >>> Author: Stefan Kangas >>> Date: Thu Jun 23 11:00:19 2022 +0200 >>> >>> Use shortened filenames in recentf-mode >>> >>> * lisp/recentf.el (recentf-filename-handlers): Set to >>> 'abbreviate-file-name' to get shortened names by default. (Bug#56123) >>> >>> 'abbreviate-file-name' tries to establish a connection for remote file >>> names. >> >> Hmm, maybe Michael knows what's going on here, added to Cc. > > The problem is rather expand-file-name, which goes remote when the file > name contains a tilde "~". I've pushed a fix to master, could you pls > check? That fixes the problem I reported. Thanks! Steve Berman From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 29 06:34:18 2022 Received: (at 57336-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Aug 2022 10:34:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60195 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oSc5y-00081z-Mw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2022 06:34:18 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:52099) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oSc5x-00081m-FO for 57336-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2022 06:34:17 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1661769251; bh=qn2FDGcIJBkxs/WsWArFqeHI95NpgwK903yLw0j4190=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=fO+xNoUfJicG9cgjLO2sYWlRRiyiDPqQqKVavBWruwxWCEqonOM62JHU4lPSSlbYl 1iVHTAO1tboB3/aHvnvwN7tjSxA+6j6G08GgbD80WoH5hRqEOdsi0Pnez404Wf/pjz /+QU6h6rUMrJj/lcCVmrAMkhX1uOATpajChK+TV4= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([79.140.119.58]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MQ5vW-1oofDv0FbU-00M4vF; Mon, 29 Aug 2022 12:34:11 +0200 From: Michael Albinus To: Stephen Berman Subject: Re: bug#57336: 29.0.50; Tramp and recentf yet again In-Reply-To: <87bks3e42v.fsf@rub.de> (Stephen Berman's message of "Mon, 29 Aug 2022 12:28:40 +0200") References: <87edx8hcvz.fsf@rub.de> <87mtbpxxfi.fsf@miha-pc> <87czcjqs3p.fsf@gmx.de> <87bks3e42v.fsf@rub.de> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2022 12:34:09 +0200 Message-ID: <874jxvqqxq.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:r/mPId89p+cl4WzNa4k+0R6d0D97Fh75lIL+dpEdlLsugUIYubJ Deh5ftI89xkNBFgGBz6OxYLB99kSoTLfDB4wWesoe/74qPfYzWOsIh4TM/LXRqKuZQEC0NM Lrm6iW28UwBVVYY2Y92yfBI12MqTz5rNCmItHHFLZ6pV3pH4UeWkvGZF40vE6nPunpFrrhD lps9QNQdox0yTm3J8NJLA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:2L8Ns1TyD3M=:fmWylHtAtAD9UyzYe1/ue3 7BMe3bEsUeAMTq5dgyLpDhRzxnJwEgi39LgMP1xhC+/aMLpDxprDGFYmQSMrDeNI3yUds0S/M WCRKno6Q2Pm0ACUvRq/qvfEhS7plenkHr0W0LFLk6DpfO+cOERcFt769CiImOMu7OShueW4WF 9JZzRI6/8qLAIxcN/9lIDzeuqeuHf1lIWixUb6mmpEamEDrbEV9hDGyurkFLQP/oxH8d8mAjn vfbb9IMxXbIYsiprCyLfNH4r1tABO2ePidwSdF1UhrYxfYOw9WvaUP4PN0ACKcmeXX9ZB3haS hMvOme93CIEt6/KGp+UPihS5iMF7prnVgHkqob9S+2qi7nu9ypGA13A8mg0sIp9HAUS/67lM5 UHXDiJ7tfwTnHAygWd7JqJVIlpOcG9htd7N1dg1xZo6hVv4WCXraWSfWB/nxsMeQe/O9bCajJ RTmZfYECr1+AomovvfM36hXrsLyVgfE+xNOIiC9Lekts3Xw4He5NyHwJcdmv7A5Wriglv/GLE +zc4F0yWmweKLe/d1mKlt9Ae17jyyK0faTQZNOsL4x1E1ZI4ii/+GDSr1FOdOGVYAjTTxS9ig k+BBkRLXuB5ZYDYlIY7lZislJ1KdmPfmtoinvXYMz+mrUgs97eNYJPJvqOriBFQRzfSa/MsKQ Dhrrck6oO3LhrOT7BZ/RA2tmJZPwIAnErt0suqs7H34vsdPbBXzal+hzIaOEAy/3VtfwPGT2y JQopb+H7wl6a2UWRM+O6mtWp48C5DbhVsstzCrHH6q/0hVji13HFqHy9ZyR/nZ8EpjeF6exp5 3gRawdAlUd/u7hT/dVa/vqD77HGnnFCI6PqS49NZlqC19ZSlFz3N2Qatzrhpj72enXMRAiUuJ 81OEipjl3fckfCG5G2Puh2WJRafp6Ml8y7CRQiN1mZ6cp+9nRqX1JzR2nmJ/rhbY3xUuFv88B Pn0Bir+1Xou+5VnaqbjHAyXGhuS6tQeO58Vn26hDs9Xf9/ZGZBmgcHRl52oC8T69lteuR+oKJ anMcZEeIsaUrSobuoB2nfC31ofckJdHKIHuj9Ipyp7vFUgIs5F6Zp8HZYMUteBZapc/WGqyqV uT1egCQgiTyrre0PsWKbPtZy9mGu0kAeu7IfQRmL+P6SlLLjEk5bvN1GQ== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57336-done Cc: 57336-done@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Kangas , miha@kamnitnik.top X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Version: 29.1 Stephen Berman writes: Hi Stephen, >> The problem is rather expand-file-name, which goes remote when the file >> name contains a tilde "~". I've pushed a fix to master, could you pls >> check? > > That fixes the problem I reported. Thanks! Thanks for the feedback, I'm closing th bug. > Steve Berman Best regards, Michael. From unknown Sat Sep 20 11:02:46 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2022 11:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator