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From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 18 03:56:48 2022 Received: (at 57263) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Aug 2022 07:56:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53652 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oOaOW-0005Yo-Hn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 03:56:48 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42730) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oOaOU-0005Yb-ME for 57263@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 03:56:47 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38820) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oOaOO-00020x-4f; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 03:56:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=yZ/BZpv7xx8JavGb6rB+EWNXPK97gvt228G6ksT6hjw=; b=csHR4mVMWxMb jBNV8M1AIEjt1oRzLxVfyo/xS1lioVicWnQglCVtBLsk8HWesgF3DFBrhK4eX2SC8ivjjjkC9JmtZ tpRVJAW8HlHEpEgN32i/e65HywNFNDr2HEANaEMbd9tPm3PWHMrXPggqdDvXxjiUE1VA1nQFxsFiY 3aot2lE99pHTJzqX+0NVAhdwL9idEr55+rWBwHRF/3nbXr5/JDJ5vst3amKIvNsPs5YbgMcLEr75s nz4ans4SZtalkR5OnvVfS43qAOetVxlPMohEzSCDtWKVsDo7KPtRI2ex8hOJtKDJRBNPyIM9SIoaS +F1gbEhM/iWp4ALh7CbE1A==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3030 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oOaON-0002sh-JO; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 03:56:39 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2022 10:56:32 +0300 Message-Id: <83pmgyassv.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Wing Hei Chan , Stefan Monnier In-Reply-To: (message from Wing Hei Chan on Wed, 17 Aug 2022 18:26:44 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#57263: 29.0.50; Obsolete documentation of `cl-symbol-macrolet' References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57263 Cc: 57263@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2022 18:26:44 +0800 > From: Wing Hei Chan > > The documentation of `cl-symbol-macrolet' fails to reflect the changes > in "Fix bug#26073", that is, `let'-bindings shadow symbol macro > bindings. Stefan, could you please fix the documentation, or suggest how it should be fixed? Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 18 10:08:28 2022 Received: (at 57263) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Aug 2022 14:08:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56380 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oOgCB-0007wn-Tp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 10:08:28 -0400 Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:20068) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oOgC7-0007wX-07 for 57263@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 10:08:26 -0400 Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 5C9E080712; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 10:08:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 2823E8044E; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 10:08:15 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1660831695; bh=cptBvRH6lHctGZyff+7HP4CySXUk+whP2kWzvw/v9Ds=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=HEiNZH/E5BIroSg/mQHJtVL5KbTGHfXjZYhbJpgVK2RhXcf2SyDW8URqSJg7cCAoG khJ0rEPlhHMiogBcyNkPKCzLs/HJk3ELPDgiaLXwYLf9RZQ0/XZdJgxS4VJryiKKJk QKBl/5Cg8UXTOk9CoyRCqMHvEKiRl0zLXzhoULxW98pNXMoLN7k4YO38Kwq5No3kID V6x2/sX04xpHLVLF+L8jzi33J1wZH6ybtoMeRIGdp+RpWDs9KmUEAvJ2a/1kAtv2Ar mJgLiiVlu9uyphccsTk10gsB2AIQJ2MAqzSF2u7pmEMn94SqFBaZV+v+TSEVgMlyAy 7TNRgqA4sUJhw== Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.195.111]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D15461202A8; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 10:08:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#57263: 29.0.50; Obsolete documentation of `cl-symbol-macrolet' In-Reply-To: <83pmgyassv.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 18 Aug 2022 10:56:32 +0300") Message-ID: References: <83pmgyassv.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2022 10:08:10 -0400 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-SPAM-INFO: Spam detection results: 0 ALL_TRUSTED -1 Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP AWL -0.058 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address BAYES_00 -1.9 Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% DKIM_SIGNED 0.1 Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid DKIM_VALID -0.1 Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature DKIM_VALID_AU -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE -0.01 - X-SPAM-LEVEL: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57263 Cc: 57263@debbugs.gnu.org, Wing Hei Chan X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Stefan, could you please fix the documentation, or suggest how it > should be fixed? Does the patch below seem readable to you? Stefan diff --git a/doc/misc/cl.texi b/doc/misc/cl.texi index 07c19e37ce4..a7548bb1f8a 100644 --- a/doc/misc/cl.texi +++ b/doc/misc/cl.texi @@ -1381,19 +1381,10 @@ Macro Bindings A @code{setq} of a symbol macro is treated the same as a @code{setf}. I.e., @code{(setq foo 4)} in the above would be equivalent to -@code{(setf foo 4)}, which in turn expands to @code{(setf (car bar) 4)}. - -Likewise, a @code{let} or @code{let*} binding a symbol macro is -treated like a @code{cl-letf} or @code{cl-letf*}. This differs from true -Common Lisp, where the rules of lexical scoping cause a @code{let} -binding to shadow a @code{symbol-macrolet} binding. In this package, -such shadowing does not occur, even when @code{lexical-binding} is -@c See https://debbugs.gnu.org/12119 -@code{t}. (This behavior predates the addition of lexical binding to -Emacs Lisp, and may change in future to respect @code{lexical-binding}.) -At present in this package, only @code{lexical-let} and -@code{lexical-let*} will shadow a symbol macro. @xref{Obsolete -Lexical Binding}. +@code{(setf foo 4)}, which in turn expands to @code{(setf (car bar) +4)}. A @code{let} (or @code{let*}, @code{lambda}, ...) binding of +the same symbol will locally shadow the symbol macro as is the case in +Common Lisp. There is no analogue of @code{defmacro} for symbol macros; all symbol macros are local. A typical use of @code{cl-symbol-macrolet} is in the From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 18 12:05:11 2022 Received: (at 57263) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Aug 2022 16:05:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56537 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oOi19-0002bT-4h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 12:05:11 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60518) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oOi10-0002ai-UQ for 57263@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 12:05:09 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50792) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oOi0q-0002z6-9l; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 12:04:52 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=OkLFzLNjSiy9YZHLGtMHKk+UH7x3fzcsysfUQwEXq44=; b=JYUl+WbFPSte ffanWUG53+77T5ZjJu2bbs8QgXrO6gytb6eZH/lWYheEmskS/7skVLu7e4a493Lv7S3pZoieTM1la RSZDOfJYxC7ZjZBIvK8DbZ5BknPj59RMvix/tSx1ZKkQGP8XcrODsEY7SSmbV/Uqiw41BDbzwntA2 wCzG4IvGI+YZ8dpYTv3/pIZbHMP4A48lfuGdoeBF+X44rCQ2yMKvx9UbCMCgC/hyI4tcnd5XdEtMH etoPHY7spDxEj3Av7+k3p0X5bHDwcXZgNu3xGuxjo3h+NG9cykwzW9LepXMDyiC8HaK1s8HUSGWu7 LOd0v8sSSJCvhggPlcgqGQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1791 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oOi0o-0000ME-QE; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 12:04:52 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2022 19:04:42 +0300 Message-Id: <83edxdfsh1.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Monnier In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Thu, 18 Aug 2022 10:08:10 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#57263: 29.0.50; Obsolete documentation of `cl-symbol-macrolet' References: <83pmgyassv.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57263 Cc: 57263@debbugs.gnu.org, whmunkchan@outlook.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Wing Hei Chan , 57263@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2022 10:08:10 -0400 > > > Stefan, could you please fix the documentation, or suggest how it > > should be fixed? > > Does the patch below seem readable to you? LGTM, thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 18 12:29:32 2022 Received: (at 57263-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Aug 2022 16:29:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56566 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oOiOi-0003C8-Bw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 12:29:32 -0400 Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:31529) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oOiOg-0003Bw-4M for 57263-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 12:29:30 -0400 Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id C5D818076F; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 12:29:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id B0C2480394; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 12:29:23 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1660840163; bh=zAy/NzhxckKfs8rrBaQDlyTZPHMlzXO8fxxvx2NNIIA=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=ohvC5wjdIc3GY5g+atvUoZIvZf8QpWQXn6U5RnRa0CrUyNSMKWG1cfyuxqeBDdfzC kbeBpLO4Mx8yLft2AWXLcm8meYAek9KTOa6Uhz12vqdH8enfiKbm2SNkTpuYmlaVOo NFkxw25erQz0qzQt0uPOnqc5X8gsMMO/qwZ66VzhlTJxwKbOXvUkoighDLDkH9beEV xnflufHprA+hvDa6LprtGqFecf2FXXM7aaEqLfdQ4jTLHEaIk6CCjY0plTILPRY5YA d+N2Xinq8iDc9N+2/MHnr6EsQx9/BzNssxTwZapU07paBmKOel+67JKLnk4KHz+4md nrV5dKXD4xwgw== Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.195.111]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 85E36120191; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 12:29:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#57263: 29.0.50; Obsolete documentation of `cl-symbol-macrolet' In-Reply-To: <83edxdfsh1.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 18 Aug 2022 19:04:42 +0300") Message-ID: References: <83pmgyassv.fsf@gnu.org> <83edxdfsh1.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2022 12:29:22 -0400 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-SPAM-INFO: Spam detection results: 0 ALL_TRUSTED -1 Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP AWL -0.058 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address BAYES_00 -1.9 Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% DKIM_SIGNED 0.1 Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid DKIM_VALID -0.1 Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature DKIM_VALID_AU -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE -0.01 - X-SPAM-LEVEL: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57263-done Cc: 57263-done@debbugs.gnu.org, whmunkchan@outlook.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) >> Does the patch below seem readable to you? > LGTM, thanks. 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