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The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-515713171-1660324311=:11117 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Inside Emacs at the infopage for Emacs, the search term "two column" finds no result, the search term "column" finds in the "Info Virtual Index" the result: . 2C-two-columns [Command Index]: Two-Column. Steps to reproduce . start "emacs -Q" . open Emacs's infopage by "F1 i" and navigating to entry for Emacs . search index using "I" and type "two column" . echo area says "No 'two column' in index" Expected result finds . 2C-two-columns [Command Index]: Two-Column. -- vl GNU Emacs 27.2 NetBSD 9.3 --0-515713171-1660324311=:11117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name=bug-gnu-emacs-28-1-91.text Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Emacs generated report Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=bug-gnu-emacs-28-1-91.text DQpJbiBHTlUgRW1hY3MgMjguMS45MSAoYnVpbGQgMSwgYWFyY2g2NC11bmtu b3duLWxpbnV4LWdudSwgR1RLKyBWZXJzaW9uIDMuMjQuMjQsIGNhaXJvIHZl cnNpb24gMS4xNi4wKQ0KIG9mIDIwMjItMDgtMDggYnVpbHQgb24gY2hhcmxp ZQ0KUmVwb3NpdG9yeSByZXZpc2lvbjogMDU5YWI0N2EwNjY0MDEyYjRkOGNm OGNjMzZiN2Q4YTI4YjgwYzYxNA0KUmVwb3NpdG9yeSBicmFuY2g6IG1haW4N CldpbmRvd2luZyBzeXN0ZW0gZGlzdHJpYnV0b3IgJ1RoZSBYLk9yZyBGb3Vu ZGF0aW9uJywgdmVyc2lvbiAxMS4wLjEyMDExMDAwDQpTeXN0ZW0gRGVzY3Jp cHRpb246IERlYmlhbiBHTlUvTGludXggMTEgKGJ1bGxzZXllKQ0KDQpDb25m aWd1cmVkIGZlYXR1cmVzOg0KQUNMIENBSVJPIERCVVMgRlJFRVRZUEUgR0lG IEdMSUIgR01QIEdOVVRMUyBHUE0gR1NFVFRJTkdTIEhBUkZCVVpaIEpQRUcN CkxDTVMyIExJQk9URiBMSUJTRUxJTlVYIExJQlNZU1RFTUQgTElCWE1MMiBN MTdOX0ZMVCBNT0RVTEVTIE5PVElGWQ0KSU5PVElGWSBQRFVNUEVSIFBORyBS U1ZHIFNFQ0NPTVAgU09VTkQgVEhSRUFEUyBUSUZGIFRPT0xLSVRfU0NST0xM X0JBUlMNClgxMSBYREJFIFhJTSBYUE0gR1RLMyBaTElCDQoNCkltcG9ydGFu dCBzZXR0aW5nczoNCiAgdmFsdWUgb2YgJExDX0FMTDogZW5fQVUuVVRGLTgN CiAgdmFsdWUgb2YgJExBTkc6IGVuX0FVLlVURi04DQogIGxvY2FsZS1jb2Rp bmctc3lzdGVtOiB1dGYtOC11bml4DQoNCk1ham9yIG1vZGU6IEluZm8NCg0K TWlub3IgbW9kZXMgaW4gZWZmZWN0Og0KICB0b29sdGlwLW1vZGU6IHQNCiAg Z2xvYmFsLWVsZG9jLW1vZGU6IHQNCiAgc2hvdy1wYXJlbi1tb2RlOiB0DQog IGVsZWN0cmljLWluZGVudC1tb2RlOiB0DQogIG1vdXNlLXdoZWVsLW1vZGU6 IHQNCiAgdG9vbC1iYXItbW9kZTogdA0KICBtZW51LWJhci1tb2RlOiB0DQog IGZpbGUtbmFtZS1zaGFkb3ctbW9kZTogdA0KICBnbG9iYWwtZm9udC1sb2Nr LW1vZGU6IHQNCiAgZm9udC1sb2NrLW1vZGU6IHQNCiAgYmxpbmstY3Vyc29y LW1vZGU6IHQNCiAgYXV0by1jb21wb3NpdGlvbi1tb2RlOiB0DQogIGF1dG8t ZW5jcnlwdGlvbi1tb2RlOiB0DQogIGF1dG8tY29tcHJlc3Npb24tbW9kZTog dA0KICBidWZmZXItcmVhZC1vbmx5OiB0DQogIGxpbmUtbnVtYmVyLW1vZGU6 IHQNCiAgaW5kZW50LXRhYnMtbW9kZTogdA0KICB0cmFuc2llbnQtbWFyay1t b2RlOiB0DQoNCkxvYWQtcGF0aCBzaGFkb3dzOg0KTm9uZSBmb3VuZC4NCg0K RmVhdHVyZXM6DQooc2hhZG93IHNvcnQgbWFpbC1leHRyIGVtYWNzYnVnIG1l c3NhZ2Ugcm1jIHB1bnkgcmZjODIyIG1tbCBtbWwtc2VjIGVwYQ0KZGVyaXZl ZCBlcGcgcmZjNjA2OCBlcGctY29uZmlnIGdudXMtdXRpbCBybWFpbCBybWFp bC1sb2FkZGVmcw0KYXV0aC1zb3VyY2UgY2wtc2VxIGVpZWlvIGVpZWlvLWNv cmUgY2wtbWFjcyBlaWVpby1sb2FkZGVmcw0KcGFzc3dvcmQtY2FjaGUganNv biBtYXAgdGV4dC1wcm9wZXJ0eS1zZWFyY2ggdGltZS1kYXRlIHN1YnIteCBz ZXENCmJ5dGUtb3B0IGd2IGJ5dGVjb21wIGJ5dGUtY29tcGlsZSBjY29udiBt bS1kZWNvZGUgbW0tYm9kaWVzIG1tLWVuY29kZQ0KbWFpbC1wYXJzZSByZmMy MjMxIG1haWxhYmJyZXYgZ21tLXV0aWxzIG1haWxoZWFkZXIgc2VuZG1haWwg cmZjMjA0Nw0KcmZjMjA0NSBpZXRmLWRydW1zIG1tLXV0aWwgbWFpbC1wcnN2 ciBtYWlsLXV0aWxzIG11bGUtdXRpbCBpbmZvDQpkaXJlZC1hdXggZGlyZWQg ZGlyZWQtbG9hZGRlZnMgaGVscC1tb2RlIGNsLWxvYWRkZWZzIGNsLWxpYiBp c28tdHJhbnNsDQp0b29sdGlwIGVsZG9jIHBhcmVuIGVsZWN0cmljIHVuaXF1 aWZ5IGVkaWZmLWhvb2sgdmMtaG9va3MNCmxpc3AtZmxvYXQtdHlwZSBlbGlz cC1tb2RlIG13aGVlbCB0ZXJtL3gtd2luIHgtd2luIHRlcm0vY29tbW9uLXdp biB4LWRuZA0KdG9vbC1iYXIgZG5kIGZvbnRzZXQgaW1hZ2UgcmVnZXhwLW9w dCBmcmluZ2UgdGFidWxhdGVkLWxpc3QgcmVwbGFjZQ0KbmV3Y29tbWVudCB0 ZXh0LW1vZGUgbGlzcC1tb2RlIHByb2ctbW9kZSByZWdpc3RlciBwYWdlIHRh Yi1iYXIgbWVudS1iYXINCnJmbi1lc2hhZG93IGlzZWFyY2ggZWFzeW1lbnUg dGltZXIgc2VsZWN0IHNjcm9sbC1iYXIgbW91c2Ugaml0LWxvY2sNCmZvbnQt bG9jayBzeW50YXggZm9udC1jb3JlIHRlcm0vdHR5LWNvbG9ycyBmcmFtZSBt aW5pYnVmZmVyIGNsLWdlbmVyaWMNCmNoYW0gZ2VvcmdpYW4gdXRmLTgtbGFu ZyBtaXNjLWxhbmcgdmlldG5hbWVzZSB0aWJldGFuIHRoYWkgdGFpLXZpZXQg bGFvDQprb3JlYW4gamFwYW5lc2UgZXVjanAtbXMgY3A1MTkzMiBoZWJyZXcg Z3JlZWsgcm9tYW5pYW4gc2xvdmFrIGN6ZWNoDQpldXJvcGVhbiBldGhpb3Bp YyBpbmRpYW4gY3lyaWxsaWMgY2hpbmVzZSBjb21wb3NpdGUgZW1vamktendq IGNoYXJzY3JpcHQNCmNoYXJwcm9wIGNhc2UtdGFibGUgZXBhLWhvb2sgamth LWNtcHItaG9vayBoZWxwIHNpbXBsZSBhYmJyZXYgb2JhcnJheQ0KY2wtcHJl bG9hZGVkIG5hZHZpY2UgYnV0dG9uIGxvYWRkZWZzIGZhY2VzIGN1cy1mYWNl IG1hY3JvZXhwIGZpbGVzDQp3aW5kb3cgdGV4dC1wcm9wZXJ0aWVzIG92ZXJs YXkgc2hhMSBtZDUgYmFzZTY0IGZvcm1hdCBlbnYgY29kZS1wYWdlcw0KbXVs ZSBjdXN0b20gd2lkZ2V0IGhhc2h0YWJsZS1wcmludC1yZWFkYWJsZSBiYWNr cXVvdGUgdGhyZWFkcyBkYnVzYmluZA0KaW5vdGlmeSBsY21zMiBkeW5hbWlj LXNldHRpbmcgc3lzdGVtLWZvbnQtc2V0dGluZyBmb250LXJlbmRlci1zZXR0 aW5nDQpjYWlybyBtb3ZlLXRvb2xiYXIgZ3RrIHgtdG9vbGtpdCB4IG11bHRp LXR0eSBtYWtlLW5ldHdvcmstcHJvY2VzcyBlbWFjcykNCg0KTWVtb3J5IGlu Zm9ybWF0aW9uOg0KKChjb25zZXMgMTYgNjc4MTMgNzMzNykNCiAoc3ltYm9s cyA0OCA3MTg5IDEpDQogKHN0cmluZ3MgMzIgMjQ3MDUgMTgzMSkNCiAoc3Ry aW5nLWJ5dGVzIDEgNzcwOTQ5KQ0KICh2ZWN0b3JzIDE2IDE1MTc4KQ0KICh2 ZWN0b3Itc2xvdHMgOCAyMTUzODcgMTQ2NDgpDQogKGZsb2F0cyA4IDMyIDQw KQ0KIChpbnRlcnZhbHMgNTYgOTcwIDQ2MSkNCiAoYnVmZmVycyA5OTIgMTMp KQ0K --0-515713171-1660324311=:11117-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 12 13:43:10 2022 Received: (at 57160) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Aug 2022 17:43:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58864 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oMYgg-0001Ym-Ac for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2022 13:43:10 -0400 Received: from relay10.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.230]:51943) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oMYgf-0001YL-6s for 57160@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2022 13:43:09 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7CDAA240002; Fri, 12 Aug 2022 17:42:58 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov To: Van Ly Subject: Re: bug#57160: 28.1.91; Info Virtual Index fails on search "two column" In-Reply-To: (Van Ly's message of "Fri, 12 Aug 2022 17:11:50 +0000 (UTC)") Organization: LINKOV.NET References: Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 20:42:27 +0300 Message-ID: <86h72hjr3x.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57160 Cc: 57160@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > Inside Emacs at the infopage for Emacs, the search term "two column" > finds no result, the search term "column" finds in the > "Info Virtual Index" the result: > > . 2C-two-columns [Command Index]: Two-Column. > > Steps to reproduce > > . start "emacs -Q" > . open Emacs's infopage by "F1 i" and navigating to entry for Emacs > . search index using "I" and type "two column" > . echo area says "No 'two column' in index" > > Expected result finds > > . 2C-two-columns [Command Index]: Two-Column. Everything works fine when you type "I two-column". From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 12 14:01:10 2022 Received: (at 57160) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Aug 2022 18:01:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58894 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oMYy6-00024d-85 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2022 14:01:10 -0400 Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:58067) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oMYy5-00024U-4Q for 57160@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2022 14:01:09 -0400 Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:van.ly@faeroes.freeshell.org [205.166.94.9]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 27CI17tE008494 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Fri, 12 Aug 2022 18:01:08 GMT Received: from localhost (van.ly@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id 27CI16WI008395; Fri, 12 Aug 2022 18:01:06 GMT Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 18:01:06 +0000 (UTC) From: Van Ly To: Juri Linkov Subject: Re: bug#57160: 28.1.91; Info Virtual Index fails on search "two column" In-Reply-To: <86h72hjr3x.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Message-ID: <7c71a8ae-3ce-a190-506d-155d40406443@SDF.ORG> References: <86h72hjr3x.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Organization: Sourceware Defines Fortress MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57160 Cc: 57160@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Fri, 12 Aug 2022, Juri Linkov wrote: >> >> Expected result finds >> >> . 2C-two-columns [Command Index]: Two-Column. > > Everything works fine when you type "I two-column". > Everyday search engines would accept "two column" and add in the hyphen. -- vl ALPINE 2.24 GNU Emacs 27.2 NetBSD 9.3 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 12 14:24:45 2022 Received: (at 57160) by debbugs.gnu.org; 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(Not chiming in on whether something should be done in Info.) Just pointing out that the "everyday search engines" you're thinking of (e.= g. PDF searching, web search engines...) typically perform what's called "f= ull-text search" or "indexed search". They _index_ a set of documents, breaking down words into roots, endings, e= tc. So they can match singular/plural and other forms of words that have t= he same root, and perform other kinds of search (boolean predicates, nearne= ss tests, etc.). They don't do the kind of searching that Emacs does, in general. Emacs sea= rching is typically plain-text, and it allows for the use of regexps, for e= xample. These are two very different search worlds. Try searching for "two-column"= with Google search and not getting hits also for "two column". Each kind = of search has its advantages. Emacs searching is good for most uses of Ema= cs. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 12 14:48:30 2022 Received: (at 57160) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Aug 2022 18:48:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58917 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oMZhu-0003FA-7r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2022 14:48:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46972) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oMZho-0003Eo-Ls for 57160@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2022 14:48:28 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53470) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oMZhj-0003b4-3u; Fri, 12 Aug 2022 14:48:19 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=qI3GbgvJbQT4Q0DL2dRXExplyl21fA09kfmcNiftu58=; b=sIHFAGK1sJPa x6XLblOGce+1JE/vxSn+74CET84KEziCZHiF3RvquIsbXhmaS4Scl7RDggPS/RvRy3Ctv7IRiw7wM Sb5AMha8GSRX5GRMJ4aeSq1tSfYiVARShTjckVZ7KVhs2xgozLfngmtv6W0te6d7wWffyZ9cY8zgQ YzTXsLJzo0SS6Q1YpORx2DZjM6rnNnu8BN+TEqtjorx7YvqDZx7IXtdhJ1r2dAyX0BAKexpne/npQ 2oyLIAmJBb+O8v3QV4ZsEvp6cfBlmXzS62d9tGQdD+ASe2UEVxy7yK3Mp82CsLlJQmaYaiawBhnny XQChc0quZkt1uE6FIHpvAA==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4155 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oMZhi-0006mv-Gu; Fri, 12 Aug 2022 14:48:18 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 21:48:14 +0300 Message-Id: <83wnbdmh75.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Van Ly In-Reply-To: <7c71a8ae-3ce-a190-506d-155d40406443@SDF.ORG> (message from Van Ly on Fri, 12 Aug 2022 18:01:06 +0000 (UTC)) Subject: Re: bug#57160: 28.1.91; Info Virtual Index fails on search "two column" References: <86h72hjr3x.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <7c71a8ae-3ce-a190-506d-155d40406443@SDF.ORG> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57160 Cc: 57160@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 57160@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 18:01:06 +0000 (UTC) > From: Van Ly > > On Fri, 12 Aug 2022, Juri Linkov wrote: > > >> Expected result finds > >> > >> . 2C-two-columns [Command Index]: Two-Column. > > > > Everything works fine when you type "I two-column". > > Everyday search engines would accept "two column" and add in the hyphen. The usual method with Info is to type "two" and then TAB. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 12 15:28:36 2022 Received: (at 57160) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Aug 2022 19:28:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58960 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oMaKi-0004CP-Bk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2022 15:28:36 -0400 Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:64239) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oMaKe-0004CF-RW for 57160@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2022 15:28:35 -0400 Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:van.ly@faeroes.freeshell.org [205.166.94.9]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 27CJSVq1027564 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Fri, 12 Aug 2022 19:28:31 GMT Received: from localhost (van.ly@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id 27CJSUjh018192; Fri, 12 Aug 2022 19:28:30 GMT Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 19:28:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Van Ly To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#57160: 28.1.91; Info Virtual Index fails on search "two column" In-Reply-To: <83wnbdmh75.fsf@gnu.org> Message-ID: <643240f6-8945-60ca-966d-4b7c56b4c414@SDF.ORG> References: <86h72hjr3x.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <7c71a8ae-3ce-a190-506d-155d40406443@SDF.ORG> <83wnbdmh75.fsf@gnu.org> Organization: Sourceware Defines Fortress MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57160 Cc: 57160@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Fri, 12 Aug 2022, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Everyday search engines would accept "two column" and add in the hyphen. > > The usual method with Info is to type "two" and then TAB. > That's very impressive. Findable documentation on using TAB in various context all in one place adds value overall. Somewhere after C-h a TAB will list all the key completions. Since I modify C-h to backspace (keyboard-translate ?\C-h ?\C-?) I think TAB isn't availabe after the F1 equivalent to C-h. The input method for chinese-ctlaub uses TAB in the same way. Possibly unrelated to Emacs, I see the following on invoking 'emacs -Q' ``` % /usr/X/Projects/emacs-28.1.91/src/emacs -Q (emacs:64490): dbind-WARNING **: 05:03:23.806: AT-SPI: Error retrieving accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files ``` From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 14 08:48:48 2022 Received: (at 57160) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Aug 2022 12:48:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36163 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oND2u-0003Ja-Ee for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2022 08:48:48 -0400 Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:53131) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oND2s-0003JR-1b for 57160@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2022 08:48:46 -0400 Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:van.ly@faeroes.freeshell.org [205.166.94.9]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 27ECmhO2026083 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Sun, 14 Aug 2022 12:48:44 GMT Received: from localhost (van.ly@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id 27ECmgO4006075; Sun, 14 Aug 2022 12:48:43 GMT Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2022 12:48:42 +0000 (UTC) From: Van Ly To: Drew Adams Subject: RE: [External] : bug#57160: 28.1.91; Info Virtual Index fails on search "two column" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <6bf30ff-2cf7-4186-f747-f771c6e73a7@SDF.ORG> References: <86h72hjr3x.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <7c71a8ae-3ce-a190-506d-155d40406443@SDF.ORG> Organization: Sourceware Defines Fortress MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1822010837-1660481323=:6298" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57160 Cc: "57160@debbugs.gnu.org" <57160@debbugs.gnu.org>, Juri Linkov X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1822010837-1660481323=:6298 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Fri, 12 Aug 2022, Drew Adams wrote: > These are two very different search worlds. Try searching for > "two-column" with Google search and not getting hits also for "two > column". Each kind of search has its advantages. Emacs searching > is good for most uses of Emacs. There's a book "introduction to information retrieval" by Manning, Raghavan, Schütze published by CUP for intuition and guidance. I often use a search engine to locate the infopage on the web and navigate there by the infopage node structure to read it. --0-1822010837-1660481323=:6298--