From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:49:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#57105: Naming of emacs-news-mode vs etc-authors-mode Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 09:48:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 57105 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 57105@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.16601248344528 (code B ref -1); Wed, 10 Aug 2022 09:48:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Aug 2022 09:47:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46122 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oLiJ0-0001Ay-Fo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 05:47:14 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:37212) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oLiIv-0001Ak-CO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 05:47:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58912) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oLiIu-0006uU-C3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 05:47:09 -0400 Received: from mail-vs1-f51.google.com ([209.85.217.51]:34600) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oLiIs-00067j-VY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 05:47:08 -0400 Received: by mail-vs1-f51.google.com with SMTP id j2so14580230vsp.1 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 02:47:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:from:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc; bh=f7YNa2uHKia8Y5PqsznGUUSBe50nxnJE7AaLcfKiFF8=; b=buuHm4btc34P4mCguMCWmabMdT4bXM+R1sXtZHHPZ9cgZgkYcrZMKUtZC2cHsZ22Zl KBub4div5jH518IHM6iP1sOZhe5y6batB5BqKbEWCfUZwlJU4pA0AggVnpG+fwvpSXXz eeOlvhoOj9tu1+C9h2rrEnX8+wPW0/iQbLxGuCqVeXdfD7ma6GMJZcRX7gBavdHRG/9F vx+faUb1Chcq/9ZG+n1vASkQ89VEgcLARWUMRyZR5JwMNcm8GnQbf60G+Ec60a2bsD5X mxnDNx7RtBEZbETdixm80yOC9JQHRJHOZ5Sz9pqM3SF3exZ2AAr4OlVwiWA38ZCqOWFR XfVA== X-Gm-Message-State: ACgBeo3tR7lmPZ7TGX4d1e6FFSyZjd96pfnuiyD+NL4xD6qytuzGnore uSXuYk7ICDfUVhRyBLIpijZURTcBzHkzNOXu+6IC/Adx X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA6agR4/MiwH7DCGOV4QJWirQYJtCldiwlM0ksdBb5ZmIc5N+yUCNsEO7z7OPfcT8UkZ7mmLWbdcYybo/QRVX3WO8Q4= X-Received: by 2002:a67:efd6:0:b0:388:4860:9bda with SMTP id s22-20020a67efd6000000b0038848609bdamr11815605vsp.46.1660124825904; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 02:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 02:47:05 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 02:47:05 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.217.51; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-vs1-f51.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) Severity: wishlist It is kind of unfortunate that emacs-news-mode and etc-authors-mode don't share the same prefix. Could we change them to use the same one? Either one or the other would need to be renamed. The benefit of the "emacs" prefix is that it is more self-explanatory. The benefit of the "etc" prefix is that it feels more "internal" and makes it clear that these modes are not really intended for general use. (It is okay to rename `etc-authors-mode' if we want to as no one will realistically be relying on it for serious work.) Thoughts? From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:49:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#57105: Naming of emacs-news-mode vs etc-authors-mode Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 11:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 57105 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Kangas Cc: 57105@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 57105-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B57105.166013078615028 (code B ref 57105); Wed, 10 Aug 2022 11:27:01 +0000 Received: (at 57105) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Aug 2022 11:26:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46273 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oLjr0-0003uJ-7H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 07:26:26 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40488) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oLjqy-0003u6-9F for 57105@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 07:26:25 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:58680) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oLjqs-0006tj-M1; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 07:26:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=AgSFdvUB4Uk75rHnsBPBD5GaPztxJ4uudA0gjmVq6m0=; b=KgRC2ttk1gpa gTamhpENH24qoCVT/GZEMZsi9PzE3BNxEbmyGLEIBTDZTlofMVNeK1hsO1VDOdghYMoiolwNndDzc cZ45UFbodyqqYn83/obpr8qpZ6Wqzwt6F4GctKHQWt+2EnlQP5oYCUNm0SEOfYGEYWnUE+q81zD3N kkNUviScIPsQFN46xjm/es7OiWUADktfe1mkT/SKxnI1OrGgoIHMAmxc1LpAIfRQzhnMiVPINwkNP 06HqDNBibj2oJkLyTGNmFs+66JwlhakgloupNYAPj1IDuwdGPjB/8/2fSW4ffgkUu2zfAZlBO/Blw tU/dRTHDyqTczW3mtzGI1w==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2697 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oLjqg-0005xw-UW; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 07:26:15 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 14:25:58 +0300 Message-Id: <83bksss5kp.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Wed, 10 Aug 2022 02:47:05 -0700) References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 02:47:05 -0700 > > Severity: wishlist > > It is kind of unfortunate that emacs-news-mode and etc-authors-mode > don't share the same prefix. Could we change them to use the same one? > Either one or the other would need to be renamed. > > The benefit of the "emacs" prefix is that it is more self-explanatory. > > The benefit of the "etc" prefix is that it feels more "internal" and > makes it clear that these modes are not really intended for general use. > > (It is okay to rename `etc-authors-mode' if we want to as no one will > realistically be relying on it for serious work.) You want to rename etc-authors-mode to emacs-authors-mode? I'm fine with that. But in general, unlike NEWS, AUTHORS have very different structures in different projects, so we shouldn't pretend that the mode is applicable outside of the Emacs project. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stefan Kangas writes: > (It is okay to rename `etc-authors-mode' if we want to as no one will > realistically be relying on it for serious work.) Yes, I'm fine with renaming it to emacs-etc-authors-mode (or something like that). 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From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:49:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#57105: Naming of emacs-news-mode vs etc-authors-mode Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 12:41:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 57105 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 57105@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 57105-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B57105.166013525432038 (code B ref 57105); Wed, 10 Aug 2022 12:41:02 +0000 Received: (at 57105) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Aug 2022 12:40:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46826 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oLl13-0008Ke-NY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 08:40:53 -0400 Received: from mail-vs1-f43.google.com ([209.85.217.43]:45592) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oLl0u-0008Jm-OM for 57105@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 08:40:49 -0400 Received: by mail-vs1-f43.google.com with SMTP id m67so14937546vsc.12 for <57105@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 05:40:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc; bh=UE/5na+2wTNMgDuPvUToqs74sSbm0zOLnHcnMseA6JY=; b=5zrsUtM//HeJTvXKjlJlZJOr9tx/ikR/L1kDImDNKg08XC+lXBhn21N4qmSeyS9un7 QYieRG95RbSX7utgHAbxBDVnPvbbOn3VhNkrht2JIb+F6yMhkvDOOUYicAKiDLJDrtDq XwpAs+ZAAy8zETcB5CZ54nnEE3G6mKVa2IE1KvLW/ANBRABKVE6cSkT6mWjvCVot9084 dsbwfL92B/5l+4Jksn2cpzHXgaSwvm9ufocK67VUStUz15JTyryUzQ2Jg026SK5jV4H6 vjesJSrVr+AwvkSyYpXCjZHPDPlmnLz4ePDe4qtnbTzZI134RPGTQe4XSq5Ee5PRcI5L UjPA== X-Gm-Message-State: ACgBeo1W5+TcMF2pjncVFfX7XtL/2KGoWGTmWRuuEow+a3E9CoyplsjJ GGrqFS41wQM/acd3WQk24vTSgs0B2oCdxBKDR2r2Twe0 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA6agR6YrI4TWbEumO9O/vq++6cHFyWyv0dNF404nO5qQcfN9yImtFmvLSKbnM/H+8Ue6FqM+4rhn+TNm1BPMd62Nns= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6102:2387:b0:34b:9f6d:10da with SMTP id v7-20020a056102238700b0034b9f6d10damr11874186vsr.28.1660135239375; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 05:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 05:40:39 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <83bksss5kp.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83bksss5kp.fsf@gnu.org> X-Hashcash: 1:20:220810:57105@debbugs.gnu.org::IqNR8Ta28f6qB84w:1cgQ MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 05:40:39 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > You want to rename etc-authors-mode to emacs-authors-mode? I'm fine > with that. Thanks. > But in general, unlike NEWS, AUTHORS have very different > structures in different projects, so we shouldn't pretend that the > mode is applicable outside of the Emacs project. Agreed (but I'd mostly say the same about `emacs-news-mode'). From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:49:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#57105: Naming of emacs-news-mode vs etc-authors-mode Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 12:41:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 57105 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 57105@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 57105-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B57105.166013525432044 (code B ref 57105); Wed, 10 Aug 2022 12:41:02 +0000 Received: (at 57105) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Aug 2022 12:40:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46828 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oLl14-0008Kh-20 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 08:40:54 -0400 Received: from mail-ua1-f46.google.com ([209.85.222.46]:39749) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oLl0l-0008JN-8y for 57105@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 08:40:50 -0400 Received: by mail-ua1-f46.google.com with SMTP id c19so5737263uat.6 for <57105@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 05:40:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc; bh=Mn5WRphUjQd8LBhOgvOraSySqxgHT0Wnzonsu53ZbBI=; b=exZLpsVowsz1/RdU4JSiuLEY8v34+wGWtAxkSvC63HdZshVcLaS4ojrgrWRQoU3OP4 5L5md8hLfbolUy+YyNvHl9E6lyIZz9eJR2yjhv3LqABnzY7TepqmRwkOLWVzjc9sBLzB Pz+8acnBGvukU8nh0Q3u/PVUH4UyFvhDUOI2MokW33qS/uRKiKQIf+cNAtPfE06yF3fa setQ6g/Acy08okoQoNjNuafUJy3Rt1FfLf6uUf5Sh4c1XYlErh6+k7KJh74F09rjZ+aJ tWzDmLsHPN3Yco/Ycx9LWS/uWVcQt7wVMkGleyvoFYXZ87Aw5Hz2mf5eul6BX3JEQFC7 PhfA== X-Gm-Message-State: ACgBeo1BmiqVs8+6HmAJ2ae02Jfw0H5USa7wi6YXaLu8yNDuP2SY8aFE 3jhFKPlllL9J5nFay5PSKopiIjEU5ppThghTg4zc59+Z X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA6agR4kB4EB3BVJkQswbVB/Dxts40gVd+pUwYK/Sa92U81/xLmctoRel9AkRdbhX6Zo7IlPnTpKX+7Ab5Oiir6xLl4= X-Received: by 2002:a9f:2f0c:0:b0:38c:6559:3c5d with SMTP id x12-20020a9f2f0c000000b0038c65593c5dmr9415976uaj.121.1660135229767; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 05:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 05:40:29 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <87tu6ks4at.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87tu6ks4at.fsf@gnus.org> X-Hashcash: 1:20:220810:larsi@gnus.org::lsDDROAfuiyDS790:3jY8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 05:40:29 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Yes, I'm fine with renaming it to emacs-etc-authors-mode (or something > like that). That's a good name, thanks. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID edc425a17ac5c043415744d5ba318cce; Thu, 11 Aug 2022 11:51:51 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu References: <87tu6ks4at.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 19:51:45 +0800 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Wed, 10 Aug 2022 05:40:29 -0700") Message-ID: <87mtcbvvzi.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20531 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 264 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Stefan Kangas writes: > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > >> Yes, I'm fine with renaming it to emacs-etc-authors-mode (or something >> like that). > > That's a good name, thanks. Then why isn't emacs-news-mode emacs-etc-news-mode? 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From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:49:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#57105: Naming of emacs-news-mode vs etc-authors-mode Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 12:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 57105 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Po Lu Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 57105@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 57105-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B57105.166022091617239 (code B ref 57105); Thu, 11 Aug 2022 12:29:02 +0000 Received: (at 57105) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Aug 2022 12:28:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52000 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oM7Ii-0004Tz-2W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Aug 2022 08:28:36 -0400 Received: from mail-vs1-f48.google.com ([209.85.217.48]:40897) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oM7Ie-0004Tl-82 for 57105@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Aug 2022 08:28:34 -0400 Received: by mail-vs1-f48.google.com with SMTP id q190so18083620vsb.7 for <57105@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 11 Aug 2022 05:28:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc; bh=tDzfrevGGz/Biyg37ExOetl+XPzK/utPNsP20sF6sQo=; b=P01u/oelUQDazPbScLJo7yFbmmWjhepVJAeq5tTQRbbhRi7V0X5hfSzS1Pg1bbBniC p9jXy/+8G8c2Z+OfcCRte7LvfE4FChfQ42YqgxfC7fyHbgbaLDECpH+zRt7sqF5zeIN0 Ukt8culKNwICm4aJUmpLrHgx38u9T7jmJtayvPulQqTRlnIQjLV05QvzhNMoAHnNJqRT a0nS8zF/ZQAIbAfyNAsyd5Dvx8bjsFWq4FuJwGr9lbqmJ6szLHC/Ac7TeEhZ7XCtJuuM 2tg6b7R1anoD+PgFpXJmfqRqfzH4ThjohHL9Ir0Na+oxyk9Q8KbgXTFCv/VjtTDzudlS JhbA== X-Gm-Message-State: ACgBeo2CjVluEw1q3D/EMb8Lf8Sr6EI7uIPFW6DwsyUxFgzc4UtLDh+K cL+6VZ9bkzVI0vD2OpFgWsNF13Slzq6luLCEjzo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA6agR6aAkU43iIB+S1IJrgYZLbseWeU8JezFPAlK0cu+iahDYIf4CUp+QU/MVc85Qca6LjvlGZHcpHibqc5Do7ZIig= X-Received: by 2002:a67:ff85:0:b0:387:473f:9056 with SMTP id v5-20020a67ff85000000b00387473f9056mr13127941vsq.85.1660220906838; Thu, 11 Aug 2022 05:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Thu, 11 Aug 2022 05:28:26 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <87ilmzvvyc.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <83bksss5kp.fsf@gnu.org> <87ilmzvvyc.fsf@yahoo.com> X-Hashcash: 1:20:220811:57105@debbugs.gnu.org::Q3mB7f5oVm6VJUjK:2ApO MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 05:28:26 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Po Lu writes: > Emacs NEWS files are very similar to that of most other GNU projects, I > think. I guess you're right, but OTOH GNU projects constitute only a very small fraction of all free software out there. From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:49:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#57105: Naming of emacs-news-mode vs etc-authors-mode Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 12:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 57105 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Po Lu Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 57105@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 57105-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B57105.166022092517265 (code B ref 57105); Thu, 11 Aug 2022 12:29:02 +0000 Received: (at 57105) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Aug 2022 12:28:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52003 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oM7Ir-0004UO-B5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Aug 2022 08:28:45 -0400 Received: from mail-ua1-f50.google.com ([209.85.222.50]:40781) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oM7Io-0004U8-9q for 57105@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Aug 2022 08:28:43 -0400 Received: by mail-ua1-f50.google.com with SMTP id r12so6867292uaf.7 for <57105@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 11 Aug 2022 05:28:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc; bh=dnS/VJIQ0YzYF0AsYbtRP++QCXXS/HkpANQG5HVOqqk=; b=gpAyH/Xn5Yuhu7V936tXypCqctS5TvANcajTH9JHMbu+h6LO/dQlOy8ckaPYnEKf2n n3/8fjHo4L+8x+p4JKR54Bf+coQE2oCf9PXkcABaYKT/x4+6LNqnAJaWmGY/tLFslTgC U4boAmw7oc/tf3/jdo3emThwZaSoHja9kwors3IFBWXlt5EDCEtjb+7eBvhipHIcTWBb C2L3MU15cm3YiWmhe3gLKZyelWWRcTOsCWPvKsmLInqSO+VXcN9uoRF2eP9qfyFDZ1O9 tCk7v90+t/43fWr0sZnORwJl8IAZLLQb3P/DIGPBB3GKuD6BW9LB3o9y9RsfF7dy70cA WamA== X-Gm-Message-State: ACgBeo3w6xAXJnnu0t2u+5aDCFPQ7CZoV628Rx4vG2lEPpd/xDMJL8Mm dm28s2gAFMyj4Oy3b2Er0ID5DWpkWdkdMcqAs86lacUA X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA6agR46qQnaupa6cU6MRFkiYtuEWTvtxmIfNiSdNvSzXq4h3LtcxP1PvOwgsI6QckjWYyQ9L2JlLj7q64qzIH4bCww= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:7301:0:b0:380:ce4c:84b0 with SMTP id v1-20020ab07301000000b00380ce4c84b0mr13638598uao.69.1660220916846; Thu, 11 Aug 2022 05:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Thu, 11 Aug 2022 05:28:36 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <87mtcbvvzi.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <87tu6ks4at.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtcbvvzi.fsf@yahoo.com> X-Hashcash: 1:20:220811:luangruo@yahoo.com::mvlOdG1BE6erhGxG:4gVu MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 05:28:36 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Po Lu writes: > Then why isn't emacs-news-mode emacs-etc-news-mode? Fair question. Having slept on this, I think I prefer `emacs-authors-mode' and `emacs-news-mode', to keep it simple. To me the only point here is that they should share the same prefix. People will understand that these modes are related to Emacs files given the "emacs-" prefix, and if they don't they can always read docstrings. From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:49:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#57105: Naming of emacs-news-mode vs etc-authors-mode Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 12:39:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 57105 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Kangas Cc: Po Lu , 57105@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 57105-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B57105.166022151218261 (code B ref 57105); Thu, 11 Aug 2022 12:39:01 +0000 Received: (at 57105) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Aug 2022 12:38:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52010 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oM7SK-0004kT-A7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Aug 2022 08:38:32 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:43358) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oM7SF-0004kB-LL for 57105@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Aug 2022 08:38:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=VqiRT8aq9B5g9o5KK/avAqFB25SMhAUaMX8JflSD8YQ=; b=sWg7ftmIX6VY6Z0ZTAnLRHNQiz lYz4qfQigQGVX0yrGQURcxgT1uYBX9oO75Pu44a34PIDHqoX3YoGm62RL1/JWafk/kJyTRHBYM2Te OmGgOgMVAY2eSoIAK1w8EjSmBdCC3Eu90fTlSLxMLeOYfICQlrvDP8L5cFGDfEOxlJio=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=joga) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oM7S6-0002Iq-Lh; Thu, 11 Aug 2022 14:38:20 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Thu, 11 Aug 2022 05:28:36 -0700") References: <87tu6ks4at.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtcbvvzi.fsf@yahoo.com> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAGFBMVEW2wpmtuJSfoXWN dXgZGB5XU1XHxrT////kBx3DAAAAAWJLR0QHFmGI6wAAAAd0SU1FB+YICws4DPnEgc4AAAGoSURB VDjLjZRLboMwEIZniJT1DKhdYyfdl7hcoLH3UbD3qAvuf4SOMQZDq6q/EqL487xtAJKYCZALyRqh fPioCKAUJXsByKh0kjEXZmMMzYC5spvu8U8bAUnQAjxxBVCCO7wkMMcrwPvJJ4B74ODDZlc7cB9f /K/A1VBtAIsY0pjrCrhyQRR92KHDyi8AER1PU++TM2qvmyv3Op2X9RtzaUEzGJgm4A97tHiOEzdm Tjc1GqsZfI5NCCm3NvWfE3igz0kvFpBAC2/BhwOIwR9wns5fg/9h4RhpbMc3MWqpBDYEY1iPoP0C JKtzLjAMRhESZwAZxOKHbuk6RAB+a/E6j5jVfwHhXxZ4iHHTtIy8AC48WfdyxjdX83onzi+9tKQI bq1WpPhiUksK8JA7YtLkW4b57CbQqsb0+zpOckrAKr0m9l4W6Kr618pRUkEddoAjIOvMjcDk0caJ 4CkXOHR0ifFzuigTaPoQehlTV/sQZHsCdVg1qKoxGfwULl1EpsOOCBa7eHvlZqf9IBtR1axqSYPl d/5qedYcXxssrmD/iqkpuYteDkG+AXZJoFfktC8XAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIyLTA4 LTExVDExOjU2OjEyKzAwOjAwZUYdZAAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMi0wOC0xMVQxMTo1 NjoxMiswMDowMBQbpdgAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Porridge Radio's _Waterslide, Diving Board, Ladder To The Sky_: "Rotten" Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 14:38:17 +0200 Message-ID: <87edxnrm4m.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stefan Kangas writes: > Fair question. Having slept on this, I think I prefer > `emacs-authors-mode' and `emacs-news-mode', to keep it simple. Sounds good to me. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Stefan Kangas writes: > Fair question. Having slept on this, I think I prefer > `emacs-authors-mode' and `emacs-news-mode', to keep it simple. Sounds good to me. From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:49:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#57105: Naming of emacs-news-mode vs etc-authors-mode Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 16:49:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 57105 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: Po Lu , 57105@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 57105-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B57105.166032288724927 (code B ref 57105); Fri, 12 Aug 2022 16:49:02 +0000 Received: (at 57105) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Aug 2022 16:48:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58809 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oMXpP-0006Tw-4e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2022 12:48:07 -0400 Received: from mail-vs1-f42.google.com ([209.85.217.42]:40944) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oMXpL-0006SZ-44 for 57105@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2022 12:48:04 -0400 Received: by mail-vs1-f42.google.com with SMTP id q190so1347948vsb.7 for <57105@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 12 Aug 2022 09:48:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc; bh=M6GArzB20kmPON9XHfxnX83Jd47ZAQ2gsSfC+mD0M14=; b=SBcXHBQss0uWD604LmwYlNlultfUq26Wcn3iFEdEcKCcp/Y0hF/ImqB617DbjFjRs5 ti7XU0YJNEyu3vkbyV4xAE2RvkjgPLoTFwSZwMoEb54HF+5ffGNxmD8wstbOIa0L3qSW iS5mKf/UrTdr2iYDOAsyNfLbBgsHk9FdluEwZvxMtmL2mpcIhrHI99OD3lSqfHFf/LS8 5CA78P9+G0Gg2t0pSkwVtQYOcl9FaQEmfhhqvaWkUxMr+d1V0wE2syqcU/eEeyFIiWlu JRj4iHpTO3DNYTEZY0NlVYFh60KgbFmj16ubEwP4l+XNpPI9AljFEhEOneXA6UkfAv1Y Rvew== X-Gm-Message-State: ACgBeo164YptZuf2h/HTw6KpEc0XVUfewMAzQ9YeCLd4P+IprHjpjO7i nl6JCxHzotglwPMHIMQ3EZZEdFP5ggh/m3q+OGo2OjUa X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA6agR64fSuaZSXFK/28UTJbv4lCEPcKswK8etMFVhSoqvz9FJTjxV6vV+Xy5obgjPDWoUF9CPJIX6NaEANgsT37cA4= X-Received: by 2002:a67:ff85:0:b0:387:473f:9056 with SMTP id v5-20020a67ff85000000b00387473f9056mr2293107vsq.85.1660322877501; Fri, 12 Aug 2022 09:47:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Fri, 12 Aug 2022 09:47:56 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <87edxnrm4m.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87tu6ks4at.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtcbvvzi.fsf@yahoo.com> <87edxnrm4m.fsf@gnus.org> X-Hashcash: 1:20:220812:larsi@gnus.org::JBRf/vfL44NvSA5D:bWz MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 09:47:56 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) close 57105 29.1 thanks Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Stefan Kangas writes: > >> Fair question. Having slept on this, I think I prefer >> `emacs-authors-mode' and `emacs-news-mode', to keep it simple. > > Sounds good to me. Thanks, now done on master (commits 4ab16226e0 and 779d920c9a).