From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 09 14:24:53 2022 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Aug 2022 18:24:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44883 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oLTuN-0006oP-Tq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 14:24:53 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:47398) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oLSgz-0002Yx-8X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 13:06:58 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46976) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oLSgx-00062I-1M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 13:06:57 -0400 Received: from l.edsantiago.com ([72.14.191.63]:37442) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oLSgt-0002C1-Sd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 13:06:54 -0400 Received: from y.edsantiago.com (h.edsantiago.com [67.41.1.229]) by l.edsantiago.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EF43AA0EF for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2022 11:06:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from y.edsantiago.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by y.edsantiago.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26773C6351 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2022 11:06:14 -0600 (MDT) From: Eduardo Santiago To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 28.1; 28.1 breaks supersession in tramp Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2022 11:06:06 -0600 Message-ID: <87o7wtxs75.fsf@y.edsantiago.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=72.14.191.63; envelope-from=emacsbug@edsantiago.com; helo=l.edsantiago.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 09 Aug 2022 14:24:50 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) recipe: 1) find-file /rsync:host:file 2) in shell session on : echo hi >>file 3) back in emacs, type space or any character in that buffer In emacs-27.2 and earlier, I get "file changed on disk; really edit the buffer?" In emacs-28.1 emacs happily lets me edit the file, and only warns me when I try to save. This leads to wasted effort as I try to resolve conflicts manually. In GNU Emacs 28.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2022-06-10 built on localhost Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101004 System Description: Gentoo Linux Configured using: 'configure --prefix=/usr --build=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu --host=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var/lib --datarootdir=/usr/share --disable-silent-rules --docdir=/usr/share/doc/emacs-28.1 --htmldir=/usr/share/doc/emacs-28.1/html --libdir=/usr/lib64 --program-suffix=-emacs-28 --includedir=/usr/include/emacs-28 --infodir=/usr/share/info/emacs-28 --localstatedir=/var --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp --without-compress-install --without-hesiod --without-pop --with-file-notification=inotify --with-pdumper --enable-acl --with-dbus --with-modules --without-gameuser --with-libgmp --without-gpm --without-native-compilation --without-json 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Santiago on Tue, 09 Aug 2022 11:06:06 -0600) Subject: Re: bug#57084: 28.1; 28.1 breaks supersession in tramp References: <87o7wtxs75.fsf@y.edsantiago.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57084 Cc: 57084@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Eduardo Santiago > Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2022 11:06:06 -0600 > > > recipe: > 1) find-file /rsync:host:file > 2) in shell session on : echo hi >>file > 3) back in emacs, type space or any character in that buffer > > In emacs-27.2 and earlier, I get "file changed on disk; really edit the buffer?" > > In emacs-28.1 emacs happily lets me edit the file, and only warns me > when I try to save. This leads to wasted effort as I try to resolve > conflicts manually. Thanks, I think this was already fixed for the upcoming Emacs 28.2. Would it be possible for you to try the latest pretest 28.1.91, available from alpha.gnu.org? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 09 15:01:40 2022 Received: (at 57084-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Aug 2022 19:01:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45038 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oLUTz-0005tj-Tb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 15:01:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56180) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oLUTx-0005tV-3A for 57084-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 15:01:38 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45046) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oLUTr-0003sK-4K; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 15:01:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=FrwOJ7aoepm4G2PHGVBqx5EzFeO9/TjYSDMHHsfK53g=; b=MZ+SU7CzttKh c8KIyVw3fGvBHBUQ+ZGj9iakytGsdUeLq0eQnfos2/uk7fJ0gcU8QEWIOMDM7CFKxz8MdvCJLWo2i Y58a6oScRbm0moRWSrahux4zmRCpTat+FiIydc/4k0yqBlMuLouLiiJIejCs8+UxUj7CRNyjY92P7 xfrtA7GsuT28TiZxyKW3WhQj25rV6nBNnMTx6DkAZSqqWQwe1ZBxYOpKKfi9gL2ekegVlYPAMT9hS Yks0SXk/Q32hMWW5gviLkUspeJ0nXlkuXnyctrMv14ljcMLwnhHPemGXWF38VniHSSzkJQISO1VNO a2mwNebrLu95sdJCEQDhlA==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2496 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oLUTp-0004Zl-ID; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 15:01:30 -0400 Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2022 22:01:19 +0300 Message-Id: <83tu6ls0lc.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Ed Santiago In-Reply-To: <311468.1660071233@y> (message from Ed Santiago on Tue, 09 Aug 2022 12:53:53 -0600) Subject: Re: bug#57084: 28.1; 28.1 breaks supersession in tramp References: <87o7wtxs75.fsf@y.edsantiago.com> <83zggds1pj.fsf@gnu.org> <311468.1660071233@y> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57084-done Cc: 57084-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Ed Santiago > Phone: 1-505-662-5142 > cc: 57084@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2022 12:53:53 -0600 > > >Thanks, I think this was already fixed for the upcoming Emacs 28.2. > >Would it be possible for you to try the latest pretest 28.1.91, > >available from alpha.gnu.org? > > Confirmed, it works as expected in 28.1.91. Thank you for your > incredibly quick response. Feel free to close this. Done. > (P.S. I _did_ search the bug tracker and git history, promise! Found > d3163a3b8fa -- which is already in 28.1 -- and no other relevant hits). I think it's bug#53207. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 09 16:26:13 2022 Received: (at 57084) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Aug 2022 20:26:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45179 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oLVna-0001ox-0P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 16:26:12 -0400 Received: from l.edsantiago.com ([72.14.191.63]:49822) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oLUMX-0003Wj-9z for 57084@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 14:53:58 -0400 Received: from y.edsantiago.com (h.edsantiago.com [67.41.1.229]) by l.edsantiago.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B3320A0D7; Tue, 9 Aug 2022 12:53:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from y (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by y.edsantiago.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDEEFC6351; Tue, 9 Aug 2022 12:53:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.7 From: Ed Santiago Phone: 1-505-662-5142 To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#57084: 28.1; 28.1 breaks supersession in tramp In-reply-to: <83zggds1pj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87o7wtxs75.fsf@y.edsantiago.com> <83zggds1pj.fsf@gnu.org> X-Url: http://www.edsantiago.com/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2022 12:53:53 -0600 Message-ID: <311468.1660071233@y> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57084 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 09 Aug 2022 16:25:56 -0400 Cc: 57084@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >Thanks, I think this was already fixed for the upcoming Emacs 28.2. >Would it be possible for you to try the latest pretest 28.1.91, >available from alpha.gnu.org? Confirmed, it works as expected in 28.1.91. Thank you for your incredibly quick response. Feel free to close this. (P.S. I _did_ search the bug tracker and git history, promise! Found d3163a3b8fa -- which is already in 28.1 -- and no other relevant hits). 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[76.168.148.233]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id y3-20020aa78f23000000b0052d92ccaad9sm426189pfr.131.2022.08.09.16.12.20 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Aug 2022 16:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#57084: 28.1; 28.1 breaks supersession in tramp To: Eli Zaretskii , Eduardo Santiago References: <87o7wtxs75.fsf@y.edsantiago.com> <83zggds1pj.fsf@gnu.org> From: Jim Porter Message-ID: <374c2ba0-82fb-dd4f-3cb9-1195e6ec4dd1@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2022 16:12:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <83zggds1pj.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57084 Cc: 57084@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 8/9/2022 11:37 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Thanks, I think this was already fixed for the upcoming Emacs 28.2. > Would it be possible for you to try the latest pretest 28.1.91, > available from alpha.gnu.org? This should also be fixed in the latest version of Tramp on GNU ELPA, so that's an option for anyone who runs into this and doesn't want to use the pretest. From unknown Sat Sep 20 13:35:39 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2022 11:24:10 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator